[governance] Russia/UAE text is officially introduced

Lynn St.Amour st.amour at isoc.org
Wed Dec 12 01:25:22 EST 2012


Thanks Alejandro,

very useful here in Dubai.

Best,

Lynn

On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> the "compromise" text of 51-E is indeed horrible.
> 
> ISOC Mexico has prepared a response, communicated to our national delegation:
> 
> http://t.co/GJ2IYggU
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> Hope you find it of interest. Comments welcome.
> 
> Yours,
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> ________________________________________
> Desde: apeake at gmail.com [apeake at gmail.com] en nombre de Adam Peake [ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
> Enviado el: martes, 11 de diciembre de 2012 21:56
> Hasta: Sivasubramanian M
> CC: governance at lists.igcaucus.org
> Asunto: Re: [governance] Russia/UAE text is officially introduced
> 
> Document 51 is the text that matters.  And the resolution is bad.
> 
> <http://news.dot-nxt.com/2012/12/11/draft-itr-text-seeks-role-itu>
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> McTim referred to the Russia/UAE text as C47. Adam's link to the actual
>> document introduced (after discussions, perhaps as a compromise) points to
>> Document  DT/51-‐E  11  December  2012  Original English  DRAFT
>> INTERNATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATION REGULATIONS.
>> 
>> There are clever provisions in DT/51 --E. Do these provisions come from or
>> in any way a reflection of (a part of) the text from C47 ? Or, as Adam
>> points out, is C 47 ignored?
>> 
>> Sivasubramanian M
>> 
>> On Dec 12, 2012 1:17 AM, "William Drake" <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Adam Peake wrote:
>>> 
>>>> But they have just finished discussing a document, briefly introduced,
>>>> <http://files.wcitleaks.org/public/S12-WCIT12-121203-TD-0051!!MSW-E.pdf>
>>>> (thanks again wcitleaks) that looks like a good start.
>>> 
>>> I would suggest a second look.
>>> 
>>> Will be a long day tomorrow…
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>>> Sure to be
>>>> arguments. The proposed resolution on enabling environment looks like
>>>> a wide open invitation for future ITU conferences to invade.  But it's
>>>> late, and  expect Kieren will have wise words on
>>>> <http://news.dot-nxt.com/> soon.
>>>> 
>>>> No idea what has happened to document 47, just ignored?
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>>>>> WCIT Opening plenary, Hamadoun Touré:
>>>>> "In preparing for this conference, we have seen and heard many
>>>>> comments about ITU or the United Nations trying to take over the
>>>>> Internet.  Let me be very clear one more time:  WCIT is not about
>>>>> taking over the Internet.  And WCIT is not about Internet governance.
>>>>> WCIT is about making sure that we connect the billion people without
>>>>> access to mobile telephony, and that we connect the 4.5 billion people
>>>>> who are still off line."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> WCIT is Dr. Touré's legacy.  If it fails he won't have too much to
>>>>> look back on after 8 years. A lot of compromise would be a good idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:48 PM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> as "C-47"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <sigh>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> McTim
>>>>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>>>>>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>>>>>> 
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