[governance] Blogpost: (Whose) Hand off (What) Internet? Some Reflections on WCIT 2012

[David Allen]

I am afraid I see it differently, from my esteemed friend Dr.  
Pisanty.  (All the while I have enjoyed the elegance of construction,  
in his response!)

As Michael has now excerpted:

> ... the "Hands off the Internet" folks don't go beyond the negative  
> into some positive vision/declaration of where/how they think the  
> Internet should be "governed" (beyond an untenable status quo) ...


Which has led to stalemate, such as with both Tunis follow-ons, IGF  
and Enhanced Cooperation.  With stalemate cropping up once again, here  
with Dubai.

There has been repeated talk, over the years, of new global regimes,  
beyond states, grandly centered on multi-stakeholderism.  But no  
reality - no practicable formulation that preserves democracy - to  
that talk.

That is serious work.  Jeremy began to suggest some thoughts forward

> We all hate hierarchy, but sometimes a little bit of structure is  
> necessary to provide firm enough guidance to policymakers


in the thread, Multi-stakeholder model, evolution and revolution.

David

On Dec 9, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:

> Mike,
>
> as the great physicist Wolfgang Pauli is often quoted to have said,  
> "it isn't even wrong."
>
> Your article mostly creates a hybrid of red herring, strawman and  
> bogeyman and misses the group, often identified in this list, which  
> does not say "hands off the Internet", is not acting by reflex, is  
> not being driven by the corporate interests you profer to dislike,  
> and therefore makes nuanced, rational analysis and action difficult.
>
> There are serious concerns about what is going on in the ITU's WCIT,  
> serious people trying to address them in a serious way. That they  
> some may find their allies uncomfortable does not fit in your text.  
> Your text becomes little more than a distraction.
>
> From such a flawed premise, little of use can be concluded. As I  
> said, it isn't even wrong.
>
>
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> Asunto: [governance] Blogpost: (Whose) Hand off (What) Internet?  
> Some Reflections on WCIT 2012
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> FWIW
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> http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/12/09/whose-hand-off-what-internet-some-reflections-on-wcit-2012/
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