[governance] it's not a "bogeyman" if it's a real threat!

[riaz.tayob at gmail.com]

I could not agree more. There are universal values that we can stand by. But the views on this list show the fissures in the polity... Why should anyone expect anything real from the state players when the context is such that power allowed single rooters to dupe the multi rooters and the solution from the terrains that this was raised in is now an msg non-binding forum, or that it is politically correct to lambast developing countries while bush gave retrospective immunity to tele coms  operators for breaking the law, in allowing privacy violations... It is this hypocrisy that forestalls in part some universalising process... And perhaps the south could work to deepen some of the issues on terms it defines itself... The cowboys are in charge moving into the Wild West, best not to take a knife to a pistol fight.. Perhaps a meeting of like minded people parallel to an event may be in order... To define some of the contours, as there are limits to discourse... 

...,...

On 09 Dec 2012, at 6:31 AM, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> My question in this whole chaos is that the world was quiet while DPI
> and Trunk terminating exchange point surveillance was being
> implemented. When many of the authoritarian regimes had completed such
> projects, then they started sharing it with each other in scientific
> and technology research sharing activities. Now after a couple years
> when they are at WCIT/ITRs there is an outcry.
> 
> I agree the cry is valid for a piece of the DNS system pie but when
> you look at Iran and whats it doing with the Internet there then this
> becomes a secondary thought.
> 
> I can visualize countries as point-of-presence across the Internetwork
> map and each pop can have a different network infrastructure if they
> wanted but what keeps them in the loop is the natural common resource
> sharing capacity but at the same time they are threatened by the
> pluralism, a form of innovation that happens at the ends of the
> network, from reaching their citizenry by the citizenry and disrupting
> public order etc....
> 
> I wonder if someone has seen a Pakistani delegation at the WCIT in
> Dubai and just share in on what they've been up to as so far we only
> know here that they didn't bother to go in the first place, why would
> they, the internet and mobile networks can be switched off anytime as
> a need to maintain law and order, the ITR's seemingly don't impact
> them.
> 
> I sometimes enjoy the fact of the disconnect and distance on Internet
> Governance issues between the developing south and the developed
> north. Would anyone bother about the DNS at this point in the
> developing south where there are mostly authoritarian regimes already
> blocking, censoring and filtering so much content and URLs while
> punishing the citizenry in parallel? I also guess the developing south
> should now start grouping up separately as well during WSIS followups,
> IGFs, ITU meetings etc because somehow this disconnect and divide on
> issues is becoming painfully disturbing.
> 
> -- FoO-Da-Bytes!
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:14 AM, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://news.dot-nxt.com/2012/12/14/leaked-document-confirms-fears
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/12/authoritarian-regimes-push-for-larger-itu-role-in-dns-system
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
>> 
>> 
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