[governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally

[Carlos Vera Quintana]

You know that the 5 biggest financial institutions Bank of America, Visa, mastercard, wester union and paypal decided to block donations to wikileaks reducing it in 95%? Censorship? Have here an IG issue as requested for some people here?

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Carlos Vera


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El 19/08/2012, a las 6:42, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> escribió:

> Dominique, hi.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu> wrote:
>> Rape? Charged?
>> 
> 
> Assange's lawyer's say accused.  But the european arrest warrant the
> UK believes it must enforce says he is wanted for prosecution.  I'm
> not a lawyer, not clue about the difference.
> 
> 
>> 1. Assange is not (yet) charged. The judge only wants to ask him some
>> questions. Telecom provide some means, indeed...
>> 2. Rape? Perhaps some of us on this list, men AND women, are rapers at a
>> Swedish sense:
>> 
> 
> I very much hope not.
> 
> Indecent assault isn't that common, is it?   As you note the offense
> carries a maximum 4 year sentence.  Not trivial.
> 
> 
>> "Under Swedish law, there are legal gradations of the definition of rape.
>> There is the most serious kind, involving major violence.
>> But below that there is the concept of 'regular rape', still involving
>> violence but not violence of the utmost horror.
>> And below that there is the idea of 'unlawful coercion'. Talking generally,
>> and not about the Assange case, this might involve putting emotional
>> pressure on someone.
>> 
>> The three categories involve prison sentences of 10, six and four years
>> respectively.
>> The lawyer for the two women who have complained against Mr Assange will not
>> spell out the details because he says that would give too much away to the
>> accused man. But he does indicate that it is a four-year sentence that Mr
>> Assange could expect, indicating that he is suspected of this third, less
>> serious category."
>> 
>> And the great conclusion is:
>> 
>> "The attitude towards rape in Sweden - informed by a strong sense of women's
>> rights - means that it is more likely to be reported to police.
>> Some 53 rape offences are reported per 100,000 people, the highest rate in
>> Europe.
>> The figures may reflect a higher number of actual rapes committed but it
>> seems more likely that tough attitudes and a broader definition of the crime
>> are more significant factors."
>> 
>> See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11946652
>> 
>> Isn't it a bit unbalanced, facing whistleblowers issue?
>> 
>> Yes, Adam, CIA or not CIA, this case seems to me two Internet Governance
>> issues.
>> - Lawful here, unlawful there.
>> - Whistleblowers right at the Digital age.
>> 
>> How would you deal with these questions?
>> 
> 
> 
> Sorry, don't get it, what has Assange's situation to do with Internet
> governance, even in its broadest sense? He didn't do anything online
> or on the Internet, he is accused of assaulting two women.  And those
> two people seem to be being very much overlooked at the moment.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
>> @+, Dominique
>> 
>> Dominique Lacroix
>> Société européenne de l'Internet
>> http://www.ies-france.eu
>> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le 19/08/12 12:28, Fahd A. Batayneh a écrit :
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Ginger Paque <ginger at paque.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I admire Assange. I am glad he has the courage to carry out his WikiLeaks
>>> work. I don't think he should be persecuted, or face politically motivated
>>> harassment or charge.
>>> I don't think being a legitimate social hero allows him to avoid facing
>>> charges of rape if the are legitimate.
>>> 
>>> Ginger
>> 
>> 
>> That makes us 2 Ginger. ROCK ON!
>> 
>> Fahd
>> 
>> 
>> 
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