[governance] Re: [Arab IGF] ICANN to get $8 Million More from New .com Deal

Sat Aug 11 15:25:13 EDT 2012

Thank you Alejandro.

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

>  Fahd,
>
>  I'll try to be brief and objective in replying:
>
>
> Alejandro, while I have no negative stance against the ICANN board or any
> board member in particular, there remains two unanswered questions for me:
>
>    1. How did the board approve .xxx while the community was against it.
>
> The Board I served on rejected it.
>

I know that .xxx was under debate for almost 10 years, and it cost millions
of USD in legal trials.

>
>  The decision-review process which .xxx won leaves very little room to do
> other than allowing .xxx to go forward.
>
>  What do you think would have been a worse outcry against ICANN? for
> going forward following its established rules, or for going against them?
>

True. In fact, some claim that .xxx was approved to push forward with the
New gTLD program.

>
>
>    1. How did the board approve the New gTLD program while many answers
>    and concerns were unanswered. Even after the program was launched, the "TAS
>    glitch" caused lots of controversy. Even worst, ICANN is talking about the
>    next New gTLD round (initially planed for 2013) when current issues have
>    not been resolved yet.
>
> What makes things even worst is that many board members (in their capacity
> as employers of their respective firms) benifited their respective
> employers with the approval of the New gTLD program.
>
>  AP: this blank statement is wrong. A number of people who would have
> been in that situation recused themselves from voting and even discussing
> the decisions of the new gTLD program that would have meant a benefit for
> them or their employers.
>

You might want to get a brief on the finances of ICANN SVSF meeting and the
speech given by Bill Clinton; i.e., who funded the meeting that ICANN was
unable to fund (unless the people who gave me these facts are liars).

>
>  Even more, some past board members jumped to greener shores with
> business ventures elsewhere (and I am sure you know what I exactly mean).
>
> AP: strictly I can only guess and say that there is at least one prominent
> instance which I have deplored deeply. Sala has already pointed to the
> strong community reaction and how it's causing better conflict of interest
> rules to be enacted, and a higher level of community vigilance to appear.
>
>  You know conflict of interest and duties towards the organization vary a
> lot cross-culturally. I am in favor of great clarity so people know where
> Directors etc. stand when they vote, and when they shape a decision.
>
>  The argument has been made that certain stricter rules "are US-centric"
> and should not apply, say, to French nationals. Maybe someone in this list
> can explore that further. I don't really buy it and find the argument
> disgraceful.
>
>  Hope this is useful.
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> After all, shouldn't the board work in the best of the "Public Interest"?
>
> Fahd
>
> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
> apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
>
>> Riaz,
>>
>> I can tell you from my eight years tenure in the ICANN Board that once
>> the sustainability of the organization was achieved, the terms of contracts
>> like the ones with Verisign were analyzed by the Board on a very principled
>> basis. Their budgetary impact for ICANN itself was never a primary
>> consideration.
>>
>> From knowledge of present Directors I tend to presume mostly a similar
>> trend.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
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>> ________________________________________
>> Desde: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [
>> governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Riaz K Tayob [
>> riaz.tayob at gmail.com]
>> Enviado el: sábado, 04 de agosto de 2012 02:07
>> Hasta: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Fouad Bajwa
>> Asunto: Re: [governance] Re: [Arab IGF] ICANN to get $8 Million More from
>> New .com Deal
>>
>> This can be understood in terms of path dependency as well as Public
>> Choice theory... at some level of abstraction.
>>
>>
>> On 2012/08/03 02:48 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
>> > The financial aspect and opportunities will always be there because at
>> > the end of the day, we see a lot of stuff that inclines towards
>> > benefiting the domain industry.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Fouad
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Fahd A. Batayneh
>> > <fahd.batayneh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> http://domainincite.com/9845-icann-to-get-8-million-more-from-new-com-deal
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if this was the reason why ICANN renewed the .com agreement in
>> >> favor of VeriSign Inc., causing lots of controversy and question marks
>> >> within the ICANN community.
>> >>
>> >> Fahd
>> >>
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