From iza at anr.org Sun Apr 1 23:35:54 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 12:35:54 +0900 Subject: [governance] Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Message-ID: Dear list, We would like to initiate the new NomCom selection process in order to fill the Appeals Team 2012. As defined in the NomCom process below, we need 25 volunteers, of which final five NomCom members and two or three reserve members will be randomly selected. http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process Please indicate your willingness to serve for the NomCom. We will have one month to select the NomCom and another month for NomCom to select the Appeals Team. Thank you for your cooperation and support, Sala and Izumi ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Mon Apr 2 10:03:48 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 23:03:48 +0900 Subject: [governance] Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I did receive your first email, though it had my address, too. In any case thanks for the offer and you are now included in the candidates' pool. izumi 2012/4/2 Ginger Paque : > Hi everyone, > I am willing to serve on the NomCom. > Cheers, Ginger > > On 1 April 2012 23:05, Izumi AIZU wrote: >> >> Dear list, >> >> We would like to initiate the new NomCom selection process in order >> to fill the Appeals Team 2012. >> >> As defined in the NomCom process below, we need 25 volunteers, >> of which final five NomCom members and two or three reserve members >> will be randomly selected. >> >> http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process >> >> Please indicate your willingness to serve for the NomCom. >> >> We will have one month to select the NomCom and another month >> for NomCom to select the Appeals Team. >> >> Thank you for your cooperation and support, >> >> Sala and Izumi >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.cpsr.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *                               www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Thu Apr 5 05:41:09 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:41:09 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, So far there have been four volunteers Submitted their names. We need 21 more before end of April. Please consider seriously to be part of this important exercise for CS IGC. Izumi Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Dear list, > > We would like to initiate the new NomCom selection process in order > to fill the Appeals Team 2012. > > As defined in the NomCom process below, we need 25 volunteers, > of which final five NomCom members and two or three reserve members > will be randomly selected. > > http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process > > Please indicate your willingness to serve for the NomCom. > > We will have one month to select the NomCom and another month > for NomCom to select the Appeals Team. > > Thank you for your cooperation and support, > > Sala and Izumi > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Mon Apr 9 10:18:40 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 23:18:40 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear List, So far, the following ten people have volunteered for the Appeals Team pool. Thank you for the commitment. If you sent your name but not appearing here, please let us know. There are a few messages sent directly to the coordinators, but not to the list, because, perhaps, they were sent from the different email address than the registered one to the list. We need 15 more. The earlier, the better. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe ------------- Many thanks, izumi ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Thu Apr 12 00:25:24 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:25:24 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, We got 13 now. Just half. 12 more to go. As you know, this is to randomly select 5+ Appeal Team members (including reserve), so it is around 20% probability to become the member. In the past, there have been no case dealt by the Appeals team. It is only when minimum of 4 IGC members could not accept the Co-coordinators decision, they can appeal to this team. So, again 12 more, please. izumi 2012/4/9 Izumi AIZU : > Dear List, > > So far, the following ten people have volunteered for the Appeals Team > pool.  Thank you for the commitment. > > If you sent your name but not appearing here, please let us know. > There are a few messages sent directly to the coordinators, but not > to the list, because, perhaps, they were sent from the different email > address than the registered one to the list. > > We need 15 more. The earlier, the better. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > > ------------- > > Many thanks, > > izumi --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *                               www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Fri Apr 13 23:16:10 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:16:10 +0900 Subject: [governance] APrIGF and optional Study Visit to Devastated area Message-ID: Dear all, In addition to the AP regional IGF scheduled July 18-20, we are planning to add an optional study tour to Tohoku area severely hit by earthquake and Tsunami last year. That will be July 21-23. In case you plan to join, please consider this. izumi --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *                               www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Mon Apr 16 07:45:47 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:45:47 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Thu Apr 19 09:28:54 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:28:54 +0900 Subject: [governance] Our workshop proposal - "final call" Message-ID: Dear list, I have revised our workshop proposal as follows and also on the etherpad: http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A The deadline for submission is tomorrow, Apr 20, and, I tried to accommodate most comments and suggestions already. So this is sort of "final call". If you still have comments and/or suggestions, please send to the list or directly to me asap. I will make final edit tomorrow evening and will submit. Please also understand that I have contacted other host/panel people, and they may ask last-minute changes, mostly of minor nature, and I will not have time to consult every details to this list. I do hope you all understand this. izumi -------- Proposal for IGF Workshop Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Quo Vadis IGF – or Evolution of IGF Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. IGF is now in the second phase and “improvements” are mandated by the UN General Assembly. To fill this mandate, CSTD Working Group to the Improvement of the IGF was established in 2010 and tasked to publish its report by March 2011. The WG came up with the final report in March 2012. This report will be presented to the CSTD Session in May and further discussions are scheduled to take place at UN ECOSOC and General Assembly. This workshop will examine the substance of the CSTD WG Report and share different views by different actors on the IGF improvements and their implementations. It will discuss the following major issues: Shaping the Outcome of IGF Meetings, Working Modalities, and Funding among others. Though the basic nature of IGF as a non-binding forum has not been challenged, the WG Report proposes to enhance the impact of the IGF, with outcome documentation that includes messages that map out converging and diverging opinions on given questions clearly. On Funding, the WG could not reach full consensus: with Civil Society proposing more robust funding including the use of UN regular budget, while some others supported to stay with the current voluntary funding. How the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central focus of this workshop. Question 3: Taking stock and Way Forward Question 3a:? Taking Stock and the Way Forward in general, but not to the specific main theme questions. Question 4: Yes Question 4a: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=55 Question 5: Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement, Special Advisor, Permanent Mission of Hungary to the United Nations in Geneva Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Professor for International Communication Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus Mervi Kultamaa, Counsellor, Information Society & Trade Facilitation, Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland, Department for External Economic Relations Markus Kummer, Vice President of Public Policy, Internet Society N.Ravi Shanker- Additional Secretary, Universal Services Obligation Fund, Department of Telecommunication, India Parminder Jeet Singh, Executive Coordinator, IT for Change Question 5a: Avri Doria Question 6: Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (CS IGC) [Civil Society] Consumer International [Civil Society] Diplo Foundation [MSH] Government of Finland [TBD] Government of India [TBD] Internet Society [Technical Community] Institute for InfoSocinomics, Tama University [Civil Society] IT for Change [Civil Society] ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Fri Apr 20 19:02:37 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:02:37 +0900 Subject: [governance] Our workshop proposal - "final call" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Baudoin and all, I have just finished the submission of the workshop proposal. You can see the final version with tack changes from the Etherpad below. http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A Many thanks for your support and look forward to making it better than the proposal once it is approved! izumi 2012/4/20 Baudouin Schombe : > Izumi Hello, Hello all > > Personally, I have no comment to make because the proposal is interesting. > This approach will also allow us to quickly assess the IGF process and the > ins and outs of the various initiatives in relation to this process. > > This is a very good opportunity at this workshop we can have hot exchanges > on sectoral dynamics at national, subregional and regional levels. We need > each other to make us wait efficiently. > > Let me also inform us that in October 2012 the DRC will host the XIV Summit > of the Francophonie. Would it not also a good opportunity that global civil > society is this? This means taking advantage of every opportunity for our > visibilty. This is a suggestion. > > Baudouin > > 2012/4/19 Izumi AIZU >> >> Dear list, >> >> I have revised our workshop proposal as follows and also on the etherpad: >> >> http://igcaucus.org/9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A >> >> >> The deadline for submission is tomorrow, Apr 20, and, I tried >> to accommodate most comments and suggestions already. >> >> So this is sort of "final call".  If you still have comments and/or >> suggestions, please send to the list or directly to me asap. >> I will make final edit tomorrow evening and will submit. >> >> Please also understand that I have contacted other host/panel >> people, and they may ask last-minute changes, mostly of minor >> nature, and I will not have time to consult every details to this >> list. I do hope you all understand this. >> >> >> izumi >> >> -------- >> >> Proposal for IGF Workshop >> >> Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. >> Quo Vadis IGF – or Evolution of IGF >> >> Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. >> IGF is now in the second phase and “improvements” are mandated by the >> UN General Assembly. To fill this mandate, CSTD Working Group to the >> Improvement of the IGF was established in 2010 and tasked to publish >> its report by March 2011. The WG came up with the final report in >> March 2012. This report will be presented to the CSTD Session in May >> and further discussions are scheduled to take place at UN ECOSOC and >> General Assembly. >> This workshop will examine the substance of the CSTD WG Report and >> share different views by different actors on the IGF improvements and >> their implementations. It will discuss the following major issues: >> Shaping the Outcome of IGF Meetings, Working Modalities, and Funding >> among others. >> Though the basic nature of IGF as a non-binding forum has not been >> challenged, the WG Report proposes to enhance the impact of the IGF, >> with outcome documentation that includes messages that map out >> converging and diverging opinions on given questions clearly. On >> Funding, the WG could not reach full consensus: with Civil Society >> proposing more robust funding including the use of UN regular budget, >> while some others supported to stay with the current voluntary >> funding. >> How the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central >> focus of this workshop. >> >> Question 3: >> Taking stock and Way Forward >> Question 3a:? >> Taking Stock and the Way Forward in general, but not to the specific >> main theme questions. >> >> Question 4: >> Yes >> Question 4a: >> >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=55 >> >> Question 5: >> Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement, Special >> Advisor, Permanent Mission of Hungary to the United Nations in Geneva >> Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Professor for International Communication >> Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus >> Mervi Kultamaa, Counsellor, Information Society & Trade Facilitation, >> Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland, Department for External >> Economic Relations >> Markus Kummer, Vice President of Public Policy, Internet Society >> N.Ravi Shanker- Additional Secretary, Universal Services Obligation >> Fund, Department of Telecommunication, India >> Parminder Jeet Singh, Executive Coordinator, IT for Change >> >> Question 5a: >> Avri Doria >> >> Question 6: >> Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (CS IGC)  [Civil Society] >> Consumer International   [Civil Society] >> Diplo Foundation  [MSH] >> Government of Finland  [TBD] >> Government of India  [TBD] >> Internet Society  [Technical Community] >> Institute for InfoSocinomics, Tama University  [Civil Society] >> IT for Change [Civil Society] >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.cpsr.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- > SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN > CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ > ACADEMIE DES TIC > FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre > At-Large Member > NCSG Member > > email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com >          baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net > tél:+243998983491 > skype:b.schombe > wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net > blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr > --                      >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo         Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                Japan                              * * * * *                           www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Tue Apr 24 18:49:30 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:49:30 +0900 Subject: [governance] Anonymous re-mailer server seized by the US Federal Authorities In-Reply-To: <4F9682E5.9000906@apc.org> References: <4F911658.60504@gmx.net> <4F9116A7.3040203@gmx.net> <4F9682E5.9000906@apc.org> Message-ID: Hi, I could not see the page from my iPhone browser, I guess the right URL is http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-internet-rights-organisations-strong Izumi 2012年4月24日火曜日 Anriette Esterhuysen anriette at apc.org: > Hi all... for APC's pres statement on this go to: > > > http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-progressive-internet-rights-organisa > > > Best > > Anriette > > > > On 20/04/12 09:56, Norbert Klein wrote: > > FYI > > > > https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april > > > > > > > > Norbert Klein > > > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org > executive director, association for progressive communications > www.apc.org > po box 29755, melville 2109 > south africa > tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 > > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Sat Apr 28 07:29:15 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:29:15 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Hakikur, We include you for the pool. And I like to close this now since we have many more than 25. Unless you really want to be included. izumi 2012/4/28 Hakikur Rahman : > I volunteer, if you need someone more. > > Best regards, > Hakikur > > Dr. Hakikur Rahman > Post doc researcher > University of Minho > Portugal. > > > > At 00:10 25-04-2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom > candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012å¹´4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > > -- >                      >> Izumi Aizu << > > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >         Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,          >                                Japan >                              * * * * * >                           www.anr.org > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >      governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >      http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >      http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t --                      >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo         Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                Japan                              * * * * *                           www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From shailam at yahoo.com Thu Apr 12 00:47:26 2012 From: shailam at yahoo.com (shaila mistry) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Message-ID: <1334206046.31339.YahooMailMobile@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Resending the following I volunteer . Shaila -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 05:26:45 2012 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin Schombe) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:26:45 +0100 Subject: [governance] Our workshop proposal - "final call" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Izumi Hello, Hello all Personally, I have no comment to make because the proposal is interesting. This approach will also allow us to quickly assess the IGF process and the ins and outs of the various initiatives in relation to this process. This is a very good opportunity at this workshop we can have hot exchanges on sectoral dynamics at national, subregional and regional levels. We need each other to make us wait efficiently. Let me also inform us that in October 2012 the DRC will host the XIV Summit of the Francophonie. Would it not also a good opportunity that global civil society is this? This means taking advantage of every opportunity for our visibilty. This is a suggestion. Baudouin 2012/4/19 Izumi AIZU > Dear list, > > I have revised our workshop proposal as follows and also on the etherpad: > > http://igcaucus.org/9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A > > The deadline for submission is tomorrow, Apr 20, and, I tried > to accommodate most comments and suggestions already. > > So this is sort of "final call". If you still have comments and/or > suggestions, please send to the list or directly to me asap. > I will make final edit tomorrow evening and will submit. > > Please also understand that I have contacted other host/panel > people, and they may ask last-minute changes, mostly of minor > nature, and I will not have time to consult every details to this > list. I do hope you all understand this. > > > izumi > > -------- > > Proposal for IGF Workshop > > Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. > Quo Vadis IGF – or Evolution of IGF > > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. > IGF is now in the second phase and “improvements” are mandated by the > UN General Assembly. To fill this mandate, CSTD Working Group to the > Improvement of the IGF was established in 2010 and tasked to publish > its report by March 2011. The WG came up with the final report in > March 2012. This report will be presented to the CSTD Session in May > and further discussions are scheduled to take place at UN ECOSOC and > General Assembly. > This workshop will examine the substance of the CSTD WG Report and > share different views by different actors on the IGF improvements and > their implementations. It will discuss the following major issues: > Shaping the Outcome of IGF Meetings, Working Modalities, and Funding > among others. > Though the basic nature of IGF as a non-binding forum has not been > challenged, the WG Report proposes to enhance the impact of the IGF, > with outcome documentation that includes messages that map out > converging and diverging opinions on given questions clearly. On > Funding, the WG could not reach full consensus: with Civil Society > proposing more robust funding including the use of UN regular budget, > while some others supported to stay with the current voluntary > funding. > How the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central > focus of this workshop. > > Question 3: > Taking stock and Way Forward > Question 3a:? > Taking Stock and the Way Forward in general, but not to the specific > main theme questions. > > Question 4: > Yes > Question 4a: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=55 > > Question 5: > Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement, Special > Advisor, Permanent Mission of Hungary to the United Nations in Geneva > Wolfgang Kleinwächter, Professor for International Communication > Policy and Regulation, University of Aarhus > Mervi Kultamaa, Counsellor, Information Society & Trade Facilitation, > Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland, Department for External > Economic Relations > Markus Kummer, Vice President of Public Policy, Internet Society > N.Ravi Shanker- Additional Secretary, Universal Services Obligation > Fund, Department of Telecommunication, India > Parminder Jeet Singh, Executive Coordinator, IT for Change > > Question 5a: > Avri Doria > > Question 6: > Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (CS IGC) [Civil Society] > Consumer International [Civil Society] > Diplo Foundation [MSH] > Government of Finland [TBD] > Government of India [TBD] > Internet Society [Technical Community] > Institute for InfoSocinomics, Tama University [Civil Society] > IT for Change [Civil Society] > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ ACADEMIE DES TIC FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre At-Large Member NCSG Member email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net tél:+243998983491 skype:b.schombe wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From email at hakik.org Sat Apr 28 07:33:01 2012 From: email at hakik.org (Hakikur Rahman) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:33:01 +0100 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Izume for the note. I will be more than happy to be included in the pool. Hakikur At 12:29 28-04-2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: >Thanks Hakikur, We include you for the pool. And >I like to close this now since we have many more >than 25. Unless you really want to be included. >izumi 2012/4/28 Hakikur Rahman >: > I volunteer, if you need >someone more. > > Best regards, > Hakikur > > >Dr. Hakikur Rahman > Post doc researcher > >University of Minho > Portugal. > > > > At 00:10 >25-04-2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: > > A few days >more to go, and we need 9 more people to >volunteer for NomCom > candidates. Please JUST >DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > >2012å¹´4月16日月曜æ—ÂϾѴ >Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received >following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > >Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity >Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > >Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > >Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila >Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > >Julián Casasbuenas G. > > > 10 more to go by >the end of April. > Please consider >yourself. > > izumi > > > > -- > >          >  >> Izumi Aizu << > > Institute for >InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > >    Institute for HyperNetwork >Society, Oita,    Â  > >    Â >          >  Japan > >          >     Â * * * * * > >          >    www.anr.org > > >____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on >the list: >     governance at lists.cpsr.org > >To be removed from the list, visit: >    > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For >all other list information and functions, see: > >   > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's >charter, see: >    > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this >email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >--            >> Izumi Aizu ><< Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama >University, Tokyo     Institute for >HyperNetwork Society, Oita,      >           Japan >               * * >* * *              www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 19:13:32 2012 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:13:32 -0400 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK - I do. Deirdre On 24 April 2012 19:10, Izumi AIZU wrote: > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom > candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. >> >> Dr Jeremy Malcolm >> Iliya Bazlyankov >> Ginger Paque >> Charity Gamboa-Embley >> Sonigitu Ekpe >> Adam Peake >> Kerry Brown >> Ian Peter >> Thomas Lowenhaupt >> Baudouin Schombe >> Sunil Abraham >> Shaila Mistry >> Wilson Abigaba >> Dixie Hawtin >> Julián Casasbuenas G. >> >> 10 more to go by the end of April. >> Please consider yourself. >> >> izumi >> > > > -- > >> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > * * * * * > www.anr.org > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M -----Original Message----- From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 4:11 PM Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tapani.tarvainen at effi.org Wed Apr 25 11:29:53 2012 From: tapani.tarvainen at effi.org (Tapani Tarvainen) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:29:53 +0300 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120425152952.GA17189@kursori.vrl.jyu.fi> Count me in. -- Tapani Tarvainen On Apr 25 08:10, Izumi AIZU (iza at anr.org) wrote: > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom > candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > > > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > > Iliya Bazlyankov > > Ginger Paque > > Charity Gamboa-Embley > > Sonigitu Ekpe > > Adam Peake > > Kerry Brown > > Ian Peter > > Thomas Lowenhaupt > > Baudouin Schombe > > Sunil Abraham > > Shaila Mistry > > Wilson Abigaba > > Dixie Hawtin > > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > > Please consider yourself. > > > > izumi > > > > > -- > >> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > * * * * * > www.anr.org > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nhklein at gmx.net Thu Apr 19 09:46:49 2012 From: nhklein at gmx.net (Norbert Klein) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:46:49 +0700 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F901749.10300@gmx.net> On 4/16/2012 6:45 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. You may add my name. Norbert Klein > > izumi > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 20 18:25:50 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 00:25:50 +0200 Subject: [governance] EFF participation at next IGF Message-ID: <4F91E26E.6020709@eff.org> Hola folks, This year many EFFers will be attending the next IGF. If any of you are interested to invite some of my colleagues to your workshop, feel free to contact me or if you know them, contact them directly. Matt Zimmerman, Senior Staff Attorney Jillian York, Director, International Freedom of Expression, Kurt Opsahl, Senior Staff Attorney All the best, -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Dixie at global-partners.co.uk Thu Apr 12 04:41:10 2012 From: Dixie at global-partners.co.uk (Dixie Hawtin) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:41:10 +0100 Subject: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75DD12D44C82224E850C9BAECFCF719F269F2024CD@COLO-EXMB.ethical.local> Hi Izumi, I volunteer for NomCom (I assume it's ok if I only do more research about the Charter and my role if I am randomly selected to be on the Appeal Team?) Thanks! Dixie Hawtin -----Original Message----- From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU Sent: 12 April 2012 05:25 To: governance at lists.cpsr.org Cc: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Subject: Re: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Hi, We got 13 now. Just half. 12 more to go. As you know, this is to randomly select 5+ Appeal Team members (including reserve), so it is around 20% probability to become the member. In the past, there have been no case dealt by the Appeals team. It is only when minimum of 4 IGC members could not accept the Co-coordinators decision, they can appeal to this team. So, again 12 more, please. izumi 2012/4/9 Izumi AIZU : > Dear List, > > So far, the following ten people have volunteered for the Appeals Team > pool.  Thank you for the commitment. > > If you sent your name but not appearing here, please let us know. > There are a few messages sent directly to the coordinators, but not to > the list, because, perhaps, they were sent from the different email > address than the registered one to the list. > > We need 15 more. The earlier, the better. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > > ------------- > > Many thanks, > > izumi --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *                               www.anr.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Wed Apr 25 14:51:37 2012 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda UOL) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:51:37 -0300 Subject: RES: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <022401cd2314$7af16190$70d424b0$@uol.com.br> I am chair of NOMCOMM from ICANN this 2012 + I was 2012 meember of nominating committee of ISOC. If there is no conflict count on me. Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados IT Trend Avenida Paulista 1159 cj 1004 01311-200 São Paulo,SP, Brasil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 Dissemine esta idéia: Digite o dominio ao inves do telefone. Domain dialing Descrição: Descrição: Siter-16-square.png www.siter.com De: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] Em nome de Izumi AIZU Enviada em: terça-feira, 24 de abril de 2012 20:11 Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Assunto: [governance] Re: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2817 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1020 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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At 00:10 25-04-2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: >A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people >to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > >Izumi > >2012å¹´4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: >Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > >Dr Jeremy Malcolm >Iliya Bazlyankov >Ginger Paque >Charity Gamboa-Embley >Sonigitu Ekpe >Adam Peake >Kerry Brown >Ian Peter >Thomas Lowenhaupt >Baudouin Schombe >Sunil Abraham >Shaila Mistry >Wilson Abigaba >Dixie Hawtin >Julián Casasbuenas G. > >10 more to go by the end of April. >Please consider yourself. > >izumi > > > >-- >           >> Izumi Aizu << >Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >    Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,      >                Japan >               * * * * * >             www.anr.org >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.cpsr.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:44:26 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Message-ID: <4F9A869A.8070709@cafonso.ca> And the so-called "glitch" continues to haunt Icann... --c.a. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:06:25 -0700 From: Glen de Saint Géry To: liaison6c http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-26apr12-en.htm TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Statement by Akram Atallah, COO 26 April 2012 Many users have expressed concern that they are currently unable to view their applications in the TLD application system that has been temporarily suspended due to a technical issue. We can confirm that when the application system reopens, users will be able to review their applications, including those already submitted, to assure themselves that their information remains as they intended. We expect that demands on the system will be high when it reopens, and we are enhancing system performance as part of our preparations for the reopening. Ongoing testing continues to show that this issue did not cause any loss or corruption of user data. Please check our website regularly for updates. Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 07:21:55 2012 From: yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com (=?Windows-1252?B?WXJq9iBM5G5zaXB1cm8=?=) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:21:55 +0300 Subject: [governance] FW: AZERBAIJAN ADVISORY - Safety for journalists worsens ahead of Eurovision In-Reply-To: <201204201112.q3KBCOlx004333@secex1.oscura.net> References: <201204201112.q3KBCOlx004333@secex1.oscura.net> Message-ID: FYI in view of IGF12 Yrjö Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:12:24 +0100 From: info at newssafety.org To: Subject: AZERBAIJAN ADVISORY - Safety for journalists worsens ahead of Eurovision AZERBAIJAN ADVISORY - Safety for journalists worsens ahead of Eurovision If you can't see this email properly please visit http://www.newssafety.org/newsletter/news.php?v=18 The situation for journalists working in Azerbaijan is rapidly deteriorating ahead of next month's Eurovision song contest. On Wednesday, an award-winning investigative journalist was attacked and hospitalized after being beaten by security officers working for state-run energy firm Socar. Witnesses said that Idrak Abbasov had been covering a protest by local residents against the oil giant’s demolition of their homes on the outskirts of the capital, Baku. "They took his camera, bowled him over and started kicking him. He was bleeding, his head was injured and one eye was swollen," said the journalist’s brother Roman who was recording the protest, according to the Azerbaijani news agency Turan. Other journalists were also attacked by the company’s employees during the same protest, according to reports. And last month, Radio Free Europe investigative journalist Khadija Ismailova claims she was targeted after a sex tape showing her with her partner appeared on a fake opposition party website. Ismailova, who has exposed corruption in Azerbaijan including among President Ilham Aliyev's family and inner circle, believes that the film, recorded by a covert camera planted in her apartment, was supposed to intimidate her. “I had received warnings but I didn’t take them seriously. They had to punish – they couldn’t punish me for my stories, because those were fact-based. So they decided to defame me,” she said. She added that her case was not unique and other journalists had reported hidden cameras planted in their room. Oil-rich Azerbaijan, which is hosting the Eurovision song contest in May, is keen to project an image of a modern, prosperous society to visiting journalists and the international community. But critics say that corruption is rife in Aliyev's government. In February, Human Rights Watch issued a damning report about forced evictions of home owners in Baku to make way for construction for the flashy singing competition. Ismailova says that a story she had been working on linking members of the President's family to a huge construction project was probably a story the blackmailers were hoping to suppress. “You have to warn journalists about this in Azerbaijan because my case is the third one. It is not a rare thing here. “Now we have lots of journalists coming for Eurovision, so they have to be aware.” Celia Davies, of the Institute for Reporters’ Freedom and Safety (IRFS) based in Baku, said: “The brutal attack on Idrak Abbasov is a bleak reminder that independent journalists in Azerbaijan are a vulnerable group operating in a hostile environment. Visiting journalists should be aware of their own safety, and also of the risks they ask any local staff to take.” The Committee to Protect Journalists has repeatedly criticised the country for its growing crackdown on the press. A report published earlier this month says the country is among the top 10 jailers of journalists, with six reporters behind bars. Countless opposition bloggers have been arrested and detained. The International News Safety Institute, collaborating with IRFS, has the following safety advice for journalists planning to travel to Baku to cover the Eurovision song contest: Wait to get your visa before you start contacting local sources. A number of journalists have been denied visas in the past month, and they suspect their plans were known in advance (hence no visa). Be prepared to answer questions about what you are doing. You will attract suspicion. Be calm, polite, and as transparent as possible Make at least three copies of all your material, as frequently as possible. Consider using DHL etc. to ship out footage halfway through if you’re doing any video production. Bring your own data storage (expensive and not easy to get in Baku, especially high volume). When travelling to Azerbaijan, carry as much as possible in your hand luggage. There have been many cases of cabin baggage being interfered with and tapes, disks etc. going mysteriously missing. When taking photos/shooting video on the Bulvar (the sea front), you need to ask permission from the security guards. There are many. They will very likely say yes, but you need to ask. State Ministries – you are likely to run into trouble if you try to take photos/film. Be very discreet, or try asking the guards. Depending on the ministry you may be allowed if you show them the photos afterwards. Don’t even consider trying to do so with the Presidential Adminstration building There is a minor risk that your hotel room could be bugged. As a basic rule of thumb, don’t do anything you wouldn’t want on camera. Journalists have been targeted in hotel rooms and secret cameras have taped intimate scenes which have been used for blackmail or broadcast publicly, or both. Consider that this may not be just affect your own dignity, but also the safety of anyone you might be with – for example, a local who could be branded as a spy, be personally humiliated etc. When arranging interviews in advance, bear in mind that encryption probably isn’t being used at the Baku end. Many journalists/activists still use Yahoo for email. Try to avoid calling their local mobile numbers – stick to Skype. There have been a number of arrests of alleged Iranian terrorists planning to target Israeli and Western embassies – avoid ex-pat bars and restaurants, especially ones that are obviously “American–themed” – a key example would be “Sunset Café” near to Fountain Square. Broadly speaking, the primary risks are to journalists' material (video, photo etc), equipment, and the locals with whom you are engaging –whether as interviewees, subjects of photographs, or fixers. They may be unaware of the risks they are taking. 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Kindly note that deadline for submitting applications is Tuesday, 8 May 2012. Applicants are encouraged to submit their application from various multistakeholder groups as early as possible. This will allow sufficient time for early assessment and in turn an early announcement for Arab IGF MAG composition. I encourage and urge all who see in themselves the capacity to be members to submit their applications. Kindly feel encouraged to disseminate this information to relevant people/entities in your respective networks. Best Regards, Qusai AlShatti -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.cpsr.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Sun Apr 1 21:16:10 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 10:16:10 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Message-ID: Hi, After a few e-mail exchange with friends, I have put a basic framework for the workshop I would like to propose for IGC to host, together with other like-minded people. I thought discussion around CSTD WG on IGF, its outcome, will be an important starting point for us. OF course, we can explore more issues than just CSTD WG per se. Peter Major, Chair of CSTD IGF WG has agreed to be one of the speakers. Please feel free to use the Etherpad below to put your concrete suggestions. http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/IGF_12_Workshop_Proposal_A I plan to "edit" the final version in time. Thanks, izumi 2012/3/22 Avri Doria : > Hi, > > Thanks for the words of encouragements > > Again, goes to Jeremy who set up the software.  I only get credit for nagging about it. > > I do hope people start to use them.  I have been using them all over the place, but thought it was important that the IGC, and IG civil society in general, have a place to store our etherpad docs that was controlled by the IGC. > > I now hope people start using them.  Them have been up for a few months already, this is just the first time I have used one for IGC purposes. > > avri > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 06:23:45 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:23:45 +0300 Subject: [governance] UK - Plans for extra email and web monitoring powers spark privacy fears Message-ID: <4F797E31.7080605@gmail.com> [ perhaps a workshop on what the south can learn from the advanced democracies on regulation of the net may be useful...] Plans for extra email and web monitoring powers spark privacy fears Conservative MP David Davis leads criticism of coalition's bid to revive extra powers to snoop on emails and social media * o o Share 45 o reddit this * Comments (69) * Hélène Mulholland and Robert Booth * guardian.co.uk , Monday 2 April 2012 10.03 BST * Article history david davis David Davis MP has criticised plans for extra powers to monitor emails and internet use as unnecessary Photograph: Martin Argles for the Guardian David Davis , the former Conservative shadow home secretary, has warned that government plans to introduce a law allowing police and security services to extend their monitoring of the public's email and social media communications are unnecessary and will generate huge public resentment. Davis spoke out after it emerged a new system will allow security officials to scrutinise who is talking to whom, and exactly when the conversations are taking place, but not the content of the message. The coalition's proposals are likely to be introduced in the Queen's speech on 9 May and will focus on internet service providers (ISPs ) gathering the information and allowing government intelligence operatives to scrutinise it. Labour tried to introduce a similar system using a central database tracking all phone, text, email and internet use but that was dropped in 2009. It followed concerns raised by ISPs and mobile phone operators over the project's feasibility, and anxieties over who would foot the bill. Civil liberties campaigners have strongly criticised the revival of the plan because of the risk it could breach the privacy of law-abiding Britons. The Conservative MP for Haltemprice and Howden, who famously quit his seat to trigger a byelection over the Labour government's 42-day terror detention plan in 2008 , said legislation was unnecessary. Current surveillance arrangements under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act and the unwarranted checks on "who calls who" were already "too loose". "I'm afraid what this does is makes it 60m times worse," Davis told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme. The coalition government had vowed -- and enshrined in the coalition agreement -- to "end the storage of internet and email records without good reason" in a section on civil liberties that espouses the way the British state "has become too authoritarian". Davis said: "What is proposed is completely unfettered access to every single communication you make. This argument it doesn't cover content -- it doesn't cover content for telephone calls, but your web address is content. If you access a [website], that is content. "I'm afraid it is a very, very big widening of powers, which I'm afraid will be very much resented by many, many citizens who do not like the idea." A similar attempt in Germany two years ago led to 35,000 complaints to the supreme court, which subsequently struck it down, he said, warning: "I suspect the same thing will happen here." He added: "It's going to cause enormous resentment. Already thousands of people on the web are objecting to it. It was dropped by the last government ... if it was so important, they should have kept going last time." Anthony Glees, director of the Centre for Security and Intelligence Studies at the University of Buckingham, pointed to the recent killings in Toulouse, France, supported the measures, saying it needed to be done "because it can be done". He told Today the measures were important in the year of the Olympic Games and the Queen's Diamond jubilee. Terrorists can be monitored and attacks dealt with, he said, accusing critics such as Davis of getting a "bit obsessed" with privacy, which he said "militates in favour of the people who want to take the liberties of the rest of us". Davis pointed out that if the legislative plans were going to be in the Queen's speech next month, they could only be implemented in late 2013 at the earliest. The Home Office confirmed over the weekend that the plans would be brought forward "as soon as parliamentary time allows". The Home Office said: "It is vital that police and security services are able to obtain communications data in certain circumstances to investigate serious crime and terrorism and to protect the public. "We need to take action to maintain the continued availability of communications data as technology changes. Communications data includes time, duration and dialling numbers of a phone call, or an email address. It does not include the content of any phone call or email and it is not the intention of government to make changes to the existing legal basis for the interception of communications." Lord Carlile, a Lib Dem peer and a former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation for the government, said he expected parliament to demand strict safeguards on any new powers. "There is nothing new about this," he told Today. "The previous government intended to take similar steps and they were heavily criticised by the coalition parties. "But having come into government, the coalition parties have realised this kind of material has potential for saving lives, preventing serious crime and helping people to avoid becoming victims of serious crime. "We are talking about the updating of existing practices." Lord Carlile said he would expect parliament to demand the setting up of an independent board to monitor activity. Isabella Sankey, director of policy at Liberty, said: "Whoever is in government the grand snooping ambitions of security agencies don't change. "The coalition agreement explicitly promised to 'end unnecessary data retention' and restore our civil liberties. At the very least we need less secret briefing and more public consultation if this promise is to be abandoned". -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: icon_reddit.gif Type: image/gif Size: 600 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Google actually has an almost official 'regime change' agenda which works closely with the more famous US 'regime change' proclivities. Following this news item I did some, well, sorry to say, 'googling' to find another new item where google chief (or, ex chief) proffers that the 'Iranian bomb' was perhaps an issue they, meaning google, can take up. (No today isnt April 1st.) http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/b8e8b560-a84a-11e0-9f50-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1oMmNLULH Some questions are being raised about such activity by Google, but, interesting, mostly about what if is works "in conflict with the foreign policy of the US". Amusing! Of course only the rich can afford to discuss security and foreign policy concerns; the less fortunate should take what is served to them. "Joseph Nye, the Harvard professor who coined the phrase “soft power”, told The Washington Post in the lead-up to the Dublin meeting that Google’s entry into the arena “could be problematic – especially if it is perceived to be in conflict with the foreign policy of the United States” " Earlier, there has been this news about an understanding of the US National Security Agency with Google at http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2012/03/doj-asks-court-to-keep-secret-any-partnership-between-google-nsa.html US gov seem to have similar arrangements with other Internet biggies like Facebook, Twitter etc, which gives it privileged access to information held by them, and other kinds of leveraged that can be exercised by them. This is hardly surprising since these are all US companies and they need to comply with the requirements of US law, and cooperate with US gov on furthering US interests. And still many people want developing countries to not have any security concerns vis a vis the unipolar control of the US over much of the core of the Internet, whether in form of CIRs or the 'operations room' of the major Internet companies that together constitute most of the Internet today. This position is difficult to sell to even the most well meaning developing country government guy. And why only government, also to a southern civil society person, because security relates to real people and stark issues of their lives. (Think Afghanistan vis a vis big powers driving arbitrary regime changes!) Parminder On Thursday 15 March 2012 01:28 PM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > > > StratforLeaks: Google Ideas Director Involved in ‘Regime Change’ > > By: Yazan al-Saadi > > Published Wednesday, March 14, 2012 > > Top Google execs, including the company’s CEO and one of Barack > Obama’s major presidential campaign donors Eric Schmidt, informed the > intelligence agency Stratfor about Google’s activities and internal > communication regarding “regime change” in the Middle East, according > to Stratfor emails released by WikiLeaks and obtained by Al-Akhbar. > The other source cited was Google’s director for security and safety > Marty Lev. > > The briefings mainly focused on the movements of Jared Cohen, > currently the director of Google Ideas, a “think/do-tank” billed as a > vehicle for spreading American-style liberal democracy. Cohen was also > a former member of US Secretary of State’s Policy Planning Staff and > former advisor to Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton. > > Email exchanges, starting February 2011, suggest that Google execs > were suspicious that Cohen was coordinating his moves with the White > House and cut Cohen’s mission short at times for fear he was taking > too many risks. Stratfor’s vice-president of counter-terrorism Fred > Burton, who seemed opposed to Google’s alleged covert role in > “foaming” uprisings, describes Cohen as a “loose Cannon” whose killing > or kidnapping “might be the best thing to happen” to expose Google. > > *The Cohen Conspiracy* > > Stratfor’s spotlight on Cohen began on 9 February 2012 after Burton > forwarded to the secure email list a Foreign Policy article discussing > Cohen’s move from the State Department to Google Ideas. With this > article, Burton noted that Cohen had dinner in Cairo with Wael Ghonim > on January 27, 2011 just hours before the Egyptian Google Executive > was famously picked up by Egypt’s State Security. (doc-id 1122191 > ) > > On the same day, Stratfor’s staff make reference to a Huffington Post > article which highlighted Cohen’s role in “delaying the scheduled > maintenance on Twitter so the Iranian revolution could keep going” and > a Foreign Policy article that noted that Cohen “was a Rhodes scholar, > spent time in Iran, [and] hung out in Iraq during the war…”. These > casual discovers further perked Stratfor’s curiosity about Cohen. > (doc-id 1629270 ) > > The following day, Burton forwarded a message to the secure email list > from “a very good Google source” who claimed that Cohen “[was] off to > Gaza next week”. Burton added, “Cohen, a Jew, is bound to get himself > whacked….Google is not clear if Cohen is operating [with a] State Dept > [or] WH [White House] license, or [is] a hippie activist.” > > Korena Zucha, another senior analyst on the list, queried, “Why hasn’t > Google cut ties to Cohen yet? Or is Cohen’s activity being endorsed by > those higher up in the [company] than your contact?” > > In turn, Burton replied, “Cohen’s rabbi is Eric Schmidt and Obama > lackey. My source is trying to find out if the billionaire owners are > backing Cohen’s efforts for regime change.” (doc-id 1111729 > ) > > Later on, Burton forwarded information from the “Google source” of > Cohen’s links in establishing Movements.org > . The source added, “A site created to help > online organization of groups and individuals to move democracy in > stubborn nations. Funded through public-private partnerships.” Burton > pointed out that the US State Department is the organization’s public > sponsor.” (doc-id 1118344 > ) > > Indeed, the State Department, partnering with a number of > corporations, was the main sponsor for the 2008 inaugural Alliance of > Youth Movements summit in New York City that subsequently established > Movements.org. Hillary Clinton endorsed the organization and presented > a video message during the second summit held in Mexico City a year > later. > > On 11 February, Burton wrote to the secure email list that Cohen was > still planning to head to Gaza. He added, “The dude is a loose > can[n]on. GOOGLE is trying to stop his entry into Gaza now because the > dude is like scorched earth. It’s unclear to GOOGLE if he’s driving > without a license, but GOOGLE believes he’s on a specific mission of > “regime change” on the part of leftist fools inside the WH who are > using him for their agendas.” (doc-id 1113596 > ) > > Throughout this day, the idea proposed by Burton, and seemingly felt > by his Google contacts as well, of Cohen and the White House’s > involvement in the uprisings was actively discussed among the > analysts, especially in regards to who would be targeted next. (doc-id > 1113965 > ) > > By Monday, 14 February 2011, Burton shared intelligence with George > Friedman, Stratfor’s founder, and Scott Stewart, vice-president of > Stratfor’s tactical department, from his source in Google that Cohen > was ordered not to go to Gaza. Burton’s Google source further stated, > “Also, thinking I [the unnamed source] may be on the right track about > him despite his denials [in reference to Cohen working for the White > House/State Department].” > > When asked to clarify his sources on Cohen, Burton claimed that they > were Marty Lev, Google’s director for security and safety, and Eric > Schmidt, the current CEO of Google. (doc-id 398679 > ) > > A week later, Burton forwarded an internal Google email obtained from > a ‘senior Google executive’. This email was seemingly sent by Cohen to > the senior Google executive to discuss Cohen’s planned trip in March. > In it, Cohen wrote, “I wanted to follow-up and get a sense of your > latest thinking on the proposed March trip to UAE, Azerbaijan, and > Turkey. The purpose of this trip is to exclusively engage the Iranian > community to better understand the challenges faced by Iranians as > part of one of our Google Ideas groups on repressive societies. Here > is what we are thinking: Drive to Azerbaijan/Iranian border and engage > the Iranian communities closer to the border (this is important > because we need the Azeri Iranian perspective).” > > After reading Cohen’s email, Stewart remarked, “Cohen might end up > having an accident if he is not careful. This is not child’s play.” > > Burton responded, “GOOGLE is getting WH [White House] and State Dept. > support and air cover. In reality, they are doing things the CIA > cannot do. But, I agree with you. He’s going to get himself kidnapped > or killed. Might be the best thing to happen to expose GOOGLE’s covert > role in foaming up-risings, to be blunt. The US Gov’t can then disavow > knowledge and GOOGLE is left holding the shit bag.” (doc-id 1121800 > ) > > On 10 March 2011, Burton forwarded another message from his ‘senior > Google executive’ source detailing how Cohen was requested not to > travel on his proposed trip. The source explained that Google had > concerns over Cohen’s “baggage” as a “US State Dept. policy maker, his > research and publications on Muslim extremists and youth movements and > his presence in Egypt just as the uprising started.”The source also > stated that Cohen was recommended to “take a lower profile on this > specific trip and let time pass before being visible and associated > with people known by their states to be active in challenging > repressive societies.” (doc-id 1164190 > ) > > A subsequent message from Burton’s source on 22 March 2011 affirmed > that Cohen “heeded the advice not to go to Turkey or UAE for those > meetings.” (doc-id 1133861 > ) > > The final email dealing with Cohen was on 30 March 2011. > Here, Burton forwarded to the alpha (secure) email list a response by > his source to Burton’s question of whether Cohen was playing any role > in Libya at the time. The source stated, “Not that I’m aware of. He > heeded the advice to avoid Turkey and UAE and didn’t go on that trip.” > (doc-id 1160182 > ) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *Google Ideas: Politicizing Technology* > > Certainly, there is more than meets the eye to Cohen and his actions; > even his superiors in Google seem to think so. > > The belief, chiefly by Burton, that Cohen had seemingly played a role > in fermenting the uprisings that toppled Zine el Abidine Ben Ali and > Hosni Mubarak underplays, and at times entirely disregards, the > ability and agency by local movements in Tunisia and Egypt. > > Nevertheless, Google Ideas, which Cohen directs, is a new animal. > According to a report > > by the Financial Times published last July, Google Ideas seems to bond > idealistic activist sensibilities with Google’s pursuit for continued > global expansion - blurring the lines between business and political > action. Schmidt and Cohen dub Google Ideas as a “think/do-tank” that > aims to tackle political and diplomatic matters through the use of > technology. > > The first public event for the think/do-tank, in partnership with the > Council on Foreign Relations and the Tribeca Film Festival, was held > last June in Dublin. It gathered around 80 ‘former’ extremists, > including former Muslim radicals, neo-Nazis, US gang members, and > others, in a “Summit Against Violent Extremism”. The announcement > > by Google declared that the summit’s aim is “to initiate a global > conversation on how best to prevent young people from becoming > radicalised and how to de-radicalise others” and that “the ideas > generated at the Dublin summit will be included in a study to be > published later in the year.” > > One spin off was the creation of the Against Violent Extremism > group, apparently a network > for those who attended the Dublin Summit. Beyond merely networking, > the group also advertises certain projects that are in need of > funding. Notably, much of the projects pertain to the Middle East, > including an “Al-Awlaki Counter-Campaign” - Anwar al-Awlaki, an > American citizen of Yemeni origin, was assassinated in September of > last year by the US for his alleged al-Qaeda connections. > > But the Against Violent Extremism site does not seem to be presently > active. The last update for projects in need of funding was made in > September and the last announcement regarding the workings of the site > was made in October. > > More recently, Foreign Policy reported in January that the Brookings > Institute, one of the oldest and most influential think-tanks in > Washington, DC, named Google Ideas as “the best new think tank > > established in the last 18 months.” Such accolades arguably suggests > that Google Ideas is expected to be a major player in the near future. > > http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/stratforleaks-google-ideas-director-involved-%E2%80%98regime-change%E2%80%99 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 16:37:07 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 22:37:07 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension Message-ID: Dear All, The IGF Secretariat has informed all stakeholders that: Due to stakeholder requests the deadline for the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 April 2012. A resource person registration form has also been put up on the IGF website (www.intgovforum.org) for people who want to be selected as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, registration for the May consultations will be the same registration form as the one for the WSIS forum: http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU-SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Tue Apr 3 03:34:18 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:34:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> Thanks Wolfgang for this info As you can see this is a very "balanced" list :-)) This BBC is a scandal since its debut ! Co-opted members, two questionable vice-chairmen, unilateral annnouncement of its creation by the two vice-presidents, Mrs Bukova and Hamadoun Touré, and obscure activities. All this under the umbrella of the multistakeholder banner of the WSIS ! A farce at best ! But for me a provocation, and what's more an insult for the real civil society, instigated by the ITU. I do hope there will be some reaction from our CS groups -not only from CSDPTT!-  to such a ridiculization of MSH and CS during the next WSIS Forum.  Best greetings Jean-Louis Fullsack CSDPTT > Message du 02/04/12 12:15 > De : ""Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Copie à : > Objet : [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/15.aspx > > wolfgang > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Tue Apr 3 05:20:33 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:50:33 +0530 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> Message-ID: <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> Of the eight new members 6 are from telecoms and related companies. And of course the commission itself is headed by a telecom moghul who owns most of the telecom infrastructurea of a large developing country. So telecom companies will now give us our telecom policies! But who are we, of the IG civil society, to protest. We have always allowed global companies to lead policy shaping and making in the Internet space, we only want to somehow keep governments out. In US, we allowed google to lead the net neutrality movement and then one day when they made a business interest based compromise with the telecoms and together presented the NN policy draft to the government, which it took on as the policy framework, civil society was left looking hapless and stupid. But we have hardly learnt our lessons. Right now, in the IGF MAG, the 'global policy dialogue' on 'security, privacy and openness' is being shaped by a WG led by Verizon, that on CIRs by another US corporation, and on access and diversity by International Chamber of Commerce. At the other end of the IG specturm, in the IETF too, more and more, technical standards are largely shaped by staffers of tech corporates, in the name of open MS processes. Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to be but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate policy spaces, and their perception may not be entirely misplaced. Civil society needs to do more to dispel this impression, but sadly it doesnt... On Tuesday 03 April 2012 01:04 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > Thanks Wolfgang for this info > > As you can see this is a very "balanced" list :-)) > > This BBC is a scandal since its debut ! Co-opted members, two > questionable vice-chairmen, unilateral annnouncement of its creation > by the two vice-presidents, Mrs Bukova and Hamadoun Touré, and obscure > activities. All this under the umbrella of the multistakeholder banner > of the WSIS ! A farce at best ! But for me a provocation, and what's > more an insult for the real civil society, instigated by the ITU. > > I do hope there will be some reaction from our CS groups -not only > from CSDPTT!- to such a ridiculization of MSH and CS during the next > WSIS Forum. > > Best greetings > Jean-Louis Fullsack > CSDPTT > > > Message du 02/04/12 12:15 > > De : ""Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"" > > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > Copie à : > > Objet : [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > > > http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/15.aspx > > > > wolfgang > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Tue Apr 3 07:48:44 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:48:44 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: > Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to be but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate policy spaces, and their perception may not be entirely misplaced. Civil society needs to do more to dispel this impression, but sadly it doesnt... Parminder, Jean-Louis - I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the titles of those leading this effort, wouldn't it be more practical to comment on the actual work, and how it does or doesn't meet the needs of civil society? They have laid out four goals: > • Target 1: Making broadband policy universal. By 2015, all countries should have a national broadband plan or strategy or include broadband in their Universal Access / Service Definitions. > > • Target 2: Making broadband affordable. By 2015, entry-level broadband services should be made affordable in developing countries through adequate regulation and market forces (amounting to less than 5% of average monthly income). > > • Target 3: Connecting homes to broadband. By 2015, 40% of households in developing countries should have Internet access. > > • Target 4: Getting people online. By 2015, Internet user penetration should reach 60% worldwide, 50% in developing countries and 15% in LDCs. Are these the right goals? If not, why not, and what should the goals be instead? Has CS indicated otherwise the ITU Broadband Commission, and if so, what happened? They have a "Sharehouse" open to any and all for submission of materials to be considered including "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy recommendations." - (). They also have working groups which appear to include additional participants from outside the Commission and from academia, industry and public institutions. The IT Broadband Commission web site provides most of this information in an very straightfoward manner, with outcomes and major reports available in six major languages. Having participating in several more 'classic' ITU initiatives, I will say that I find this relatively straightforward in comparison and while perhaps imperfect in some aspects, it is much closer to what many folks have been asking for in multi-stakeholder policy development than past practices by these organizations. I have no involvement in the ITU Broadband Commission (and am the probably one of the last folks on the planet expected to speak in defense of the ITU's attempts at multi-stakeholder engagement), but is there an actual issue here to respond to? Has IGC or other CS organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission and been told that they are not welcome? Has input been provided for consideration or to the working groups been set aside in the preparation of the major reports and outcomes? If so, then this matter should indeed be a major concern and should be raised loudly at WSIS and elsewhere. However, if the issue is the Broadband Commission failing to listen due to lack of actual participation and input, then expressing concern over its structure is not only specious, but it dilutes the voice of civil society when addressing matters of actual substance elsewhere. /John Disclaimers: My views alone. Concepts in the email may appear larger in real life. Your results may vary. No user-serviceable parts inside. Do not use this email as an exit in case of fire. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Tue Apr 3 13:38:07 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:38:07 +0200 Subject: [governance] Global Information Society needs your help. Message-ID: <4F7B357F.8050203@apc.org> Dear friends, Many of you have contributed over the years to Global Information Society Watch, the annual review APC and Hivos publishes on some aspect of the information society. Getting funding for GISWatch to keep going is hard and to help with this we entered the project in the WSIS Prize competition. We need your help in voting GISWatch for the WSIS Prize. Please vote as well as forward this announcement to your lists! GISWatch is a project in the category: “The role of public governance authorities and all stakeholders in the promotion of ICTs for development (C1)”. In order to vote, you must register first and then click on the “Vote for Project” button Note that Stakestocking Members (STK) are not allowed to vote for/appreciate their own project as it will cancel our nomination. http://groups.itu.int/stocktaking/WSISProjectPrizes2012/WSISProjectPrizes2012VoteforEntry.aspx Vote and please invite others to do so! 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Tracey Naughton 22 Adams Street Castlemaine 3450 Australia Landline: +(613) 5470 6853 Mobile: +(61) 0413 019707 Skype: tnaughton9999 On 04 Apr 2012, at 3:38 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: Dear friends, Many of you have contributed over the years to Global Information Society Watch, the annual review APC and Hivos publishes on some aspect of the information society. Getting funding for GISWatch to keep going is hard and to help with this we entered the project in the WSIS Prize competition. We need your help in voting GISWatch for the WSIS Prize. Please vote as well as forward this announcement to your lists! GISWatch is a project in the category: “The role of public governance authorities and all stakeholders in the promotion of ICTs for development (C1)”. In order to vote, you must register first and then click on the “Vote for Project” button Note that Stakestocking Members (STK) are not allowed to vote for/appreciate their own project as it will cancel our nomination. http://groups.itu.int/stocktaking/WSISProjectPrizes2012/WSISProjectPrizes2012VoteforEntry.aspx Vote and please invite others to do so! A 'vote for GISWatch' banner is attached:) Links of interest: * Official website of WSIS Project Prizes: http://groups.itu.int/stocktaking/WSISProjectPrizes2012.aspx#homeTab * GISWatch project website: http://giswatch.org Thanks very much Anriette ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 06:28:26 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:28:26 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> Message-ID: <820F676DE3334A039FDA795A1056CEE9@UserVAIO> Hi John, I wrote this below in response to the first reports coming out of the BBC/ITU and a quick glance based on your reference below doesn't indicate that there has been much progress or advance since my initial comments. http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/investment-58%E2%80%94poverty-14-th e-un%E2%80%99s-broadband-commission-for-digital-development-vs-the-mdgs/ (the comments are also worth a look... The problem with what you say below and as is suggested I think, in my blogpost is not that "we" are focusing on the titles but rather that whoever is organizing the initiative is focusing on the titles. And the problem with that is not either with the titles or the individuals behind the titles but that the outcome is more or less completely predictable based on those titles (presumably as executed by the various courtiers and functionaries who actually did the work as opposed to having simply graced the meetings with their presence... And, since you asked, I sent my blogpost to one of the Commissions' "researchers", who replied with some irritation but who failed to directly address any of the points that I, or the commentators on the post were raising. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:49 AM To: parminder; Jean-Louis FULLSACK Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org ( Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to be but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate policy spaces, and their perception may not be entirely misplaced. Civil society needs to do more to dispel this impression, but sadly it doesnt... Parminder, Jean-Louis - I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the titles of those leading this effort, wouldn't it be more practical to comment on the actual work, and how it does or doesn't meet the needs of civil society? They have laid out four goals: . Target 1: Making broadband policy universal. By 2015, all countries should have a national broadband plan or strategy or include broadband in their Universal Access / Service Definitions. . Target 2: Making broadband affordable. By 2015, entry-level broadband services should be made affordable in developing countries through adequate regulation and market forces (amounting to less than 5% of average monthly income). . Target 3: Connecting homes to broadband. By 2015, 40% of households in developing countries should have Internet access. . Target 4: Getting people online. By 2015, Internet user penetration should reach 60% worldwide, 50% in developing countries and 15% in LDCs. Are these the right goals? If not, why not, and what should the goals be instead? Has CS indicated otherwise the ITU Broadband Commission, and if so, what happened? They have a "Sharehouse" open to any and all for submission of materials to be considered including "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy recommendations." - (). They also have working groups which appear to include additional participants from outside the Commission and from academia, industry and public institutions. The IT Broadband Commission web site provides most of this information in an very straightfoward manner, with outcomes and major reports available in six major languages. Having participating in several more 'classic' ITU initiatives, I will say that I find this relatively straightforward in comparison and while perhaps imperfect in some aspects, it is much closer to what many folks have been asking for in multi-stakeholder policy development than past practices by these organizations. I have no involvement in the ITU Broadband Commission (and am the probably one of the last folks on the planet expected to speak in defense of the ITU's attempts at multi-stakeholder engagement), but is there an actual issue here to respond to? Has IGC or other CS organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission and been told that they are not welcome? Has input been provided for consideration or to the working groups been set aside in the preparation of the major reports and outcomes? If so, then this matter should indeed be a major concern and should be raised loudly at WSIS and elsewhere. However, if the issue is the Broadband Commission failing to listen due to lack of actual participation and input, then expressing concern over its structure is not only specious, but it dilutes the voice of civil society when addressing matters of actual substance elsewhere. /John Disclaimers: My views alone. Concepts in the email may appear larger in real life. Your results may vary. No user-serviceable parts inside. Do not use this email as an exit in case of fire. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nb at bollow.ch Wed Apr 4 07:25:12 2012 From: nb at bollow.ch (Norbert Bollow) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:25:12 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> (message from John Curran on Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:48:44 -0400) References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> Message-ID: <20120404112512.EDEB7406@quill.bollow.ch> John Curran wrote: > On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: > > Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to > > be but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate > > policy spaces, and their perception may not be entirely > > misplaced. Civil society needs to do more to dispel this > > impression, but sadly it doesnt... > > Parminder, Jean-Louis - > > I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the > titles of those leading this effort, wouldn't it be more practical > to comment on the actual work, and how it does or doesn't meet the > needs of civil society? Constant vigilance is required to avoid the creation and strengthening of structures of power that will, if given the chance, certainly lead to diminishing the influence of public interest advocacy. Sure, the publicly stated objectives (making "broadband" Internet access more broadly available) are ones that everyone agrees with. But it's also a selection of objectives which can be expected to have a net positive effect of the profits of these companies. The risk is that public interest concerns related to net neutraliy, non-interference with personal communication, and other human rights topics that do not tend to have a net positive effect of the profits of these companies will likely not get an appropriately high level of attention if civil society stands back and lets these corporations work out what they think is a reasonable strategy, without demanding seats at the table. Greetings, Norbert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Wed Apr 4 07:46:15 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 17:16:15 +0530 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> Message-ID: <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> John, Thanks for your engagement. However, as you suspected, your assertions are indeed controversial/ problematic. Your advice is not to go into formal aspects of a governance/ policy mechanism but only focus on the output side. I would come to the output side but lets first deal with the importance of formal aspects. To those who protested against Mubarak's regime, would you have advised that instead of fighting for democracy against authoritarianism, they should look at and argue by the work and outputs of regime, and not its formal qualities. It is, for instance, possible to argue that Mubarak may have kept a tighter leash on fundamentalist groups than the emerging democracy seems to be able to keep...... Closer home, since apparently you believe in multistakeholderism, would you agree to a governance system that is not open, participative, transparent etc although it seem not to have any particularly disagreeable output? In fact, the IG civil society - including the IGC - seems to spend so much time on just the issue of multistakeholderism that some of us would want it to get more directly into substantive issues. So, the question is, why does impatience with formal aspects of governance/ policy regimes show only when democratic forms, values and norms are being spoken of - like conflict of interest, keeping powerful private interests out of policy making etc. Do you really think that it is a good/ acceptable idea to have telecoms dominate a policy body on telecom? Would you accept it in your own country? Would your compatriots accept it in your country? On the same logic, would you accept a health policy body dominated by pharma companies - at your country level, and at the WHO? Simple direct questions going very much to the heart of the issue which I hope you will answer. parminder On Tuesday 03 April 2012 05:18 PM, John Curran wrote: > On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: >> Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to be >> but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate policy >> spaces, and their perception may not be entirely misplaced. Civil >> society needs to do more to dispel this impression, but sadly it >> doesnt... > > Parminder, Jean-Louis - > > I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the titles > of those leading this > effort, wouldn't it be more practical to comment on the actual > work, and how it does or > doesn't meet the needs of civil society? > > They have laid out four goals: > >> • Target 1: Making broadband policy universal. By 2015, all >> countries should have a national broadband plan or strategy or >> include broadband in their Universal Access / Service Definitions. >> >> • Target 2: Making broadband affordable. By 2015, entry-level >> broadband services should be made affordable in developing countries >> through adequate regulation and market forces (amounting to less >> than 5% of average monthly income). >> >> • Target 3: Connecting homes to broadband. By 2015, 40% of >> households in developing countries should have Internet access. >> >> • Target 4: Getting people online. By 2015, Internet user >> penetration should reach 60% worldwide, 50% in developing countries >> and 15% in LDCs. > > Are these the right goals? If not, why not, and what should the goals > be instead? Has > CS indicated otherwise the ITU Broadband Commission, and if so, what > happened? > > They have a "Sharehouse" open to any and all for submission of > materials to be considered > including "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy > recommendations." - > (). They > also have working > groups which appear to include additional participants from outside > the Commission and > from academia, industry and public institutions. The IT Broadband > Commission web site > provides most of this information in an very straightfoward manner, > with outcomes and major > reports available in six major languages. > > Having participating in several more 'classic' ITU initiatives, I will > say that I find this relatively > straightforward in comparison and while perhaps imperfect in some > aspects, it is much closer > to what many folks have been asking for in multi-stakeholder policy > development than past > practices by these organizations. > > I have no involvement in the ITU Broadband Commission (and am the > probably one of the last > folks on the planet expected to speak in defense of the ITU's attempts > at multi-stakeholder > engagement), but is there an actual issue here to respond to? > Has IGC or other CS > organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission > and been told that > they are not welcome? Has input been provided for consideration or to > the working groups > been set aside in the preparation of the major reports and outcomes? > If so, then this matter > should indeed be a major concern and should be raised loudly at WSIS > and elsewhere. > However, if the issue is the Broadband Commission failing to listen > due to lack of actual > participation and input, then expressing concern over its structure is > not only specious, but > it dilutes the voice of civil society when addressing matters of > actual substance elsewhere. > > /John > > Disclaimers: My views alone. Concepts in the email may appear larger > in real life. Your results > may vary. No user-serviceable parts inside. Do not use this email as > an exit in case of fire. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Wed Apr 4 07:59:49 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 07:59:49 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <820F676DE3334A039FDA795A1056CEE9@UserVAIO> References: <820F676DE3334A039FDA795A1056CEE9@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <1C02187C-BB99-4F8B-844A-A9FA3CE65E6F@istaff.org> On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > The problem with what you say below and as is suggested I think, in my blogpost is not that "we" are focusing on the titles but rather that whoever is organizing the initiative is focusing on the titles. And the problem with that is not either with the titles or the individuals behind the titles but that the outcome is more or less completely predictable based on those titles (presumably as executed by the various courtiers and functionaries who actually did the work as opposed to having simply graced the meetings with their presence... Strange. An organization which historically has focused on participation predominantly by member states expands its model to specifically allow for submission of "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy recommendations" from anyone, and yet in advance you can determine that the outcome is completely predictable? That implies that we are 100% certain that these inputs are not being considered (or maybe you mean 'completely predictable' because civil society has not intention of participating??) > And, since you asked, I sent my blogpost to one of the Commissions' "researchers", who replied with some irritation but who failed to directly address any of the points that I, or the commentators on the post were raising. Your blogpost calls for (amongst other things) that the Broadband Commission consider "the much more nuanced and sensible approach outlined in the Background document to the Nigerian BB4NG forum" Did you ever submit that document to the actual Broadband Commission? From what I can tell, this would be via their 'Sharehouse' system, and yet I've searched the Sharehouse but only find two submissions including term "Nigeria" (see below). Wouldn't actually submitting them the document aid in its consideration? If indeed they are not considering these submissions in their work which is asserted to be a multistakeholder process, then, yes, that would indeed be a very important issue, and one worth raising in multiple forums. As it is, it is impossible to address raise concerns since it doesn't appear that you're even tried to participate in their processes at all. FYI, /John Disclaimers: My views alone. No Lifeguard On Duty - Use Mailing List At Your Own Risk. Check tags on individual email messages as many messages look alike. === http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Sharehouse/Search.aspx (term "Nigeria") 2 initiatives found Updated Country/Entity Initiative 9 Jan 2011 Nigeria: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Nigeria Digital Sense Forum Tthe forum tends to explore the impact of Internet Governance and Broadband Evolution in Nigeria in relation to achieving the goal of Information and communication technology (ICT) accessibility and adoption for the benefit of the populace, especially with the coming on stream and launch of two subm ... ID: 1294527821 27 Sep 2010 United States of America: Pyramid Research (UK and US) The Impact of Mobile Services in Nigeria: How Mobile Technologies Are Transforming Economic and Social Activities Pyramid analyzed mobile adoption trends, examples of mobile applications, as well as the perspectives of key players and 1,500 Nigerian end users. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Wed Apr 4 08:30:32 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 08:30:32 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <277DFE7D-29E8-486B-AB70-82DDDEF8EF19@istaff.org> On Apr 4, 2012, at 7:46 AM, parminder wrote: > John, > > Thanks for your engagement. However, as you suspected, your assertions are indeed controversial/ problematic. > > Your advice is not to go into formal aspects of a governance/ policy mechanism but only focus on the output side. I would come to the output side but lets first deal with the importance of formal aspects. To those who protested against Mubarak's regime, would you have advised that instead of fighting for democracy against authoritarianism, they should look at and argue by the work and outputs of regime, and not its formal qualities. I have no knowledge of the conditions in that area, but I expect it would not be difficult to find numerous examples of folks who tried to participate and either had no option to do so, or suffered significant consequences as a result of participating by providing inputs that were _not_ well received... i.e. it should be relatively straightfoward to show that there was not a meaningful system that allowed multi-stakeholder participation. > Closer home, since apparently you believe in multistakeholderism, would you agree to a governance system that is not open, participative, transparent etc although it seem not to have any particularly disagreeable output? If someone is asserting to provide system of policy development which allows for multi-stakeholder participation, but in fact doesn't actually consider the inputs, that is a major problem. The only way to truly determine this is to actually participate and judge the results. > Do you really think that it is a good/ acceptable idea to have telecoms dominate a policy body on telecom? Domination of telecom representatives may not be ideal, but I do not believe it is safe to assume that the results are completely predictable, particularly when there has been specific efforts to accept inputs from any and all parties. > Would you accept it in your own country? Would your compatriots accept it in your country? On the same logic, would you accept a health policy body dominated by pharma companies - at your country level, and at the WHO? Alas, I live in the USA, and hence am quite aware that US policy formation in many areas is already dominated by the related commercial concerns... The best we can do is hope that the processes that allow for open input are actually functioning, and raise strong objection when we can prove otherwise. > Simple direct questions going very much to the heart of the issue which I hope you will answer. Of course. I do hope that discussion of this topic doesn't distract from IGC's important work, but felt that it is worth noting how objections to these steps by the ITU toward multi-stakeholder processes might be perceived. I'll be the first to admit skepticism, but recognize that these are actually major changes for a 100+ year old organization. Dealing with everyone in good faith would lead me to believe that one must exercise these mechanisms first before condemning them as closed and non-participative. /John Disclaimer: My views alone. Reading this email may be hazardous to your health. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 09:03:34 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:03:34 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1C02187C-BB99-4F8B-844A-A9FA3CE65E6F@istaff.org> Message-ID: <21216A9537694201B5F3C6B5BE16C36F@UserVAIO> John, Some time ago I stopped attempting to post useful stuff in response to random, non-directed, open ended, structureless, formless calls for best practices, case studies, etc.etc. There are about a dozen of those (or more) floating around the ICT4D world at any one time. In the absence of any indication of how one's effort is going to be considered, the opportunity to engage in dialogue and context setting with those in theory reading the documents, the process by which one's input might be considered and channeled into discussion, and so on, I consider it to be a major waste of time--providing the form of consultation without any of the substance. If folks are seriously interested in getting feedback there are quite specific mechanisms for engaging with people who have knowledge/experience to provide... In the absence of such mechanisms there is Google to provide an almost endless stream of such floating in the ether--reports, best practices etc.etc. As I said I read the first report and gave my off the top reactions... Nothing I saw from your pointers has changed my mind. The Working Groups appear to be for the most part either inactive beyond the appointment of one of the worthies on the Commission as Chair and the formulation of a mission statement; or their outreach consists of including one or two academic notables whose positions also are well known. If their Sharehouse facility only has two reports referencing Nigeria then little more needs to be said about that enterprise--the rest of the world appears to share my opinion of those types of efforts rather than yours. As I recall in the original blogpost I talked about form without substance... M -----Original Message----- From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran at istaff.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:00 AM To: michael gurstein Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:28 AM, michael gurstein wrote: The problem with what you say below and as is suggested I think, in my blogpost is not that "we" are focusing on the titles but rather that whoever is organizing the initiative is focusing on the titles. And the problem with that is not either with the titles or the individuals behind the titles but that the outcome is more or less completely predictable based on those titles (presumably as executed by the various courtiers and functionaries who actually did the work as opposed to having simply graced the meetings with their presence... Strange. An organization which historically has focused on participation predominantly by member states expands its model to specifically allow for submission of "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy recommendations" from anyone, and yet in advance you can determine that the outcome is completely predictable? That implies that we are 100% certain that these inputs are not being considered (or maybe you mean 'completely predictable' because civil society has not intention of participating??) And, since you asked, I sent my blogpost to one of the Commissions' "researchers", who replied with some irritation but who failed to directly address any of the points that I, or the commentators on the post were raising. Your blogpost calls for (amongst other things) that the Broadband Commission consider "the much more nuanced and sensible approach outlined in the Background document to the Nigerian BB4NG forum" Did you ever submit that document to the actual Broadband Commission? From what I can tell, this would be via their 'Sharehouse' system, and yet I've searched the Sharehouse but only find two submissions including term "Nigeria" (see below). Wouldn't actually submitting them the document aid in its consideration? If indeed they are not considering these submissions in their work which is asserted to be a multistakeholder process, then, yes, that would indeed be a very important issue, and one worth raising in multiple forums. As it is, it is impossible to address raise concerns since it doesn't appear that you're even tried to participate in their processes at all. FYI, /John Disclaimers: My views alone. No Lifeguard On Duty - Use Mailing List At Your Own Risk. Check tags on individual email messages as many messages look alike. === http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Sharehouse/Search.aspx (term "Nigeria") 2 initiatives found Updated Country/Entity Initiative 9 Jan 2011 Nigeria: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Nigeria Digital Sense Forum Tthe forum tends to explore the impact of Internet Governance and Broadband Evolution in Nigeria in relation to achieving the goal of Information and communication technology (ICT) accessibility and adoption for the benefit of the populace, especially with the coming on stream and launch of two subm ... ID: 1294527821 27 Sep 2010 United States of America: Pyramid Research (UK and US) The Impact of Mobile Services in Nigeria: How Mobile Technologies Are Transforming Economic and Social Activities Pyramid analyzed mobile adoption trends, examples of mobile applications, as well as the perspectives of key players and 1,500 Nigerian end users. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Wed Apr 4 09:26:20 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 09:26:20 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <21216A9537694201B5F3C6B5BE16C36F@UserVAIO> References: <21216A9537694201B5F3C6B5BE16C36F@UserVAIO> Message-ID: On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > John, > > Some time ago I stopped attempting to post useful stuff in response to random, non-directed, open ended, structureless, formless calls for best practices, case studies, etc.etc. There are about a dozen of those (or more) floating around the ICT4D world at any one time. In the absence of any indication of how one's effort is going to be considered, the opportunity to engage in dialogue and context setting with those in theory reading the documents, the process by which one's input might be considered and channeled into discussion, and so on, I consider it to be a major waste of time--providing the form of consultation without any of the substance. Micheal - Not participating is your prerogative.... (and that certainly makes the outcome "completely predictable" as you noted earlier) Might it be more useful to engage in the process, and note that the lack of a transparent formal process for consideration of submissions prevents this being a reasonable form of multi-stakeholder input for civil society? FYI, /John Disclaimer: My views alone. Contents may settle during shipment. Concepts may, in time, fade. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Curious if anyone on the list knows if there is any news and/or developments related to the following: - The Azerbaijan IGF 2012 Host Country website and related issues: ie. when the site will go live, discounted rates (if any) for hotels, expedited visa processing and of course what venue has been selected. - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise in the May consultations in Geneva. regards Robert -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Wed Apr 4 11:42:54 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:42:54 -0700 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> This is quite important. Because if this is the case, those of us who are currently in the MAG would need to attend that meeting. I'm booked in May but free the days of the MAG meeting so I need to know ASAP the current status. On 4/4/12 8:39 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise in the May consultations in Geneva. -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Wed Apr 4 12:21:58 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:21:58 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >what venue has been selected. At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Wed Apr 4 12:50:01 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:50:01 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Roland, I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. - As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't yet confirmed. --The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading option they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split between two or 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue could also be the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be taking place) regards Robert On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >> what venue has been selected. > > At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. > -- > Roland Perry > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at ella.com Wed Apr 4 12:56:05 2012 From: avri at ella.com (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:56:05 -0500 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86db288e-8217-41ab-8159-e18276e751af@email.android.com> There are of course a number of problems with the separated venue model. Beyond the difficulty for participants to move between workshops easily and quickly, the biggest problem I see is that it creates more security checkpoints one has to go through, giving local authorities a greater ability to police/control the attendees. Avri Robert Guerra wrote: >Roland, > >I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. > >- As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't >yet confirmed. >--The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading >option they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split >between two or 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue >could also be the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be >taking place) > >regards > >Robert > > >On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > >> on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >>> what venue has been selected. >> >> At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting >across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judyokite at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 13:19:55 2012 From: judyokite at gmail.com (Judy Okite) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:19:55 +0300 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Split it into three? mmhhhhh 1. reduces the chances of hoping into one workshop , then leaving for another? restricting freedom of movement, depending on the distance. I hope they bare in mind PWD's as well. Kind Regards *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible” Edwin Land* On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Roland, > > I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. > > - As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't yet > confirmed. > --The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading option > they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split between two or > 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue could also be > the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be taking place) > > regards > > Robert > > > On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > > on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes > > what venue has been selected. > > > At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting > across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. > -- > Roland Perry > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If IGF plans to have the meetings spread between Hilton and Park and examine if it is possible to set up three or four meeting room like Tents, perhaps with Air conditioning, movements between workshops would be easier at BAKU than it was at Nairobi. Sivasubramanian M On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Judy Okite wrote: > Split it into three? mmhhhhh > > 1. reduces the chances of hoping into one workshop , then leaving for > another? restricting freedom of movement, depending on the distance. > > I hope they bare in mind PWD's as well. > > > Kind Regards > *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > impossible” Edwin Land* > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > >> Roland, >> >> I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. >> >> - As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't yet >> confirmed. >> --The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading option >> they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split between two or >> 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue could also be >> the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be taking place) >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >> >> on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >> >> what venue has been selected. >> >> >> At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting >> across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <+yKWurK7qJfPFAaH@internetpolicyagency.com> at 20:19:55 on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Judy Okite writes >Split it into three?  mmhhhhh > >1. reduces the chances of hoping into one workshop , then leaving for >another? restricting freedom of movement, depending on the distance. Concerns such as that were expressed at the meeting. One could be forgiven for thinking that the organisers expect attendees to be at Workshops, or Main Sessions or Open Forums, but not moving much between them. As very much of a "Corridor man" myself, I hope all sessions are as close together as possible. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Wed Apr 4 15:24:05 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:24:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission Message-ID: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590&id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert  Best Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 04/04/12 13:25 > De : "Norbert Bollow" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > John Curran wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: > > > Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to > > > be but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate > > > policy spaces, and their perception may not be entirely > > > misplaced. Civil society needs to do more to dispel this > > > impression, but sadly it doesnt... > > > > Parminder, Jean-Louis - > > > > I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the > > titles of those leading this effort, wouldn't it be more practical > > to comment on the actual work, and how it does or doesn't meet the > > needs of civil society? > > Constant vigilance is required to avoid the creation and strengthening > of structures of power that will, if given the chance, certainly lead > to diminishing the influence of public interest advocacy. > > Sure, the publicly stated objectives (making "broadband" Internet > access more broadly available) are ones that everyone agrees with. > But it's also a selection of objectives which can be expected to have > a net positive effect of the profits of these companies. > > The risk is that public interest concerns related to net neutraliy, > non-interference with personal communication, and other human rights > topics that do not tend to have a net positive effect of the profits > of these companies will likely not get an appropriately high level of > attention if civil society stands back and lets these corporations > work out what they think is a reasonable strategy, without demanding > seats at the table. > > Greetings, > Norbert > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at arin.net Wed Apr 4 16:20:48 2012 From: jcurran at arin.net (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:20:48 +0000 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> Message-ID: <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590&id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection to the Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other than to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet speed") FYI, /John Disclaimers: My views alone. No grad students were harmed in production of this email. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Wed Apr 4 17:44:55 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:44:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> Message-ID: <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> What is that ???? Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 04/04/12 22:21 > De : "John Curran" > A : "Jean-Louis FULLSACK" > Copie à : "NorbertBollow" , "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > > > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. > > > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : > > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590&id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert > > Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection to the > Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other than > to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet speed") > > FYI, > /John > > Disclaimers: My views alone. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Wed Apr 4 18:00:27 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:00:27 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> Message-ID: On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> > > What is that ???? An extract from the article itself: "Come on Commissioners, you need to operate at internet speed here, otherwise you’ll lose momentum and risk credibility" FYI, /John --- > On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > >> This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. >> >> Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : >> http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590&id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert > > Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection to the > Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other than > to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet speed") > > FYI, > /John > > Disclaimers: My views alone. 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Has IGC or other CS > organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission and been told that > they are not welcome? Yes. Consumers International offered to put together a workshop on broadband with them. The response, "We tend also to only partner with existing members of the Broadband Commission, which makes a joint initiative here hard to justify/coordinate." On that note, if anyone else is interested to co-sponsor a workshop on consumer protection issues around broadband, with CI and the LINK Centre, contact me offlist and I'll send you the link. -- Dr Jeremy Malcolm Senior Policy and Project Officer Consumers International Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Tel: +60 3 7726 1599 Follow @ConsumersInt Like us at www.facebook.com/consumersinternational Read our email confidentiality notice. 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Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline for the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 April 2012. The IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person registration form on the website for people who want to be selected as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, registration for the May consultations will be the same registration form as the one for the WSIS forum: http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU-SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF Secretariat. All the best, Katitza -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Wed Apr 4 20:56:39 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 20:56:39 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> Message-ID: On Apr 4, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On 03/04/2012, at 7:48 PM, John Curran wrote: > >> I have no involvement in the ITU Broadband Commission (and am the probably one of the last >> folks on the planet expected to speak in defense of the ITU's attempts at multi-stakeholder >> engagement), but is there an actual issue here to respond to? Has IGC or other CS >> organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission and been told that >> they are not welcome? > > Yes. Consumers International offered to put together a workshop on broadband with them. The response, "We tend also to only partner with existing members of the Broadband Commission, which makes a joint initiative here hard to justify/coordinate." Jeremy - Good to know; that's definitely a non-inclusive approach by the Broadband Commission to the problem. > On that note, if anyone else is interested to co-sponsor a workshop on consumer protection issues around broadband, with CI and the LINK Centre, contact me offlist and I'll send you the link. While it may be a futile effort, it would be good if the report from any such workshop noted the difficulty in jointly working with Broadband Commission due to their approach on partnering. This could be added to the record by submitting to their sharehouse and then referenced in any future dialogues regarding the actual 'multi-stakeholder' nature of the Broadband Commission. Thanks! /John Disclaimers: My views only. Warning: this email was made using machines that also process social network web pages. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Thu Apr 5 03:55:46 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 08:55:46 +0100 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> Message-ID: on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Jean-Louis FULLSACK writes ><(i.e. "at Internet speed")> > >What is that ??? It's a concept dating back to just before the Dot-com bubble, where events were described as happening in "Internet Time" - approximately four times faster than any normal industry. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From femlists at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:33:52 2012 From: femlists at gmail.com (Magaly Pazello) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:33:52 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello! This is very strange model I never have heard such thing in my work on UN conferences and meetings since 1992 also because security reasons it is much more practical and cheaper concentrate everything in one only location. This don't make sense. When UN split locations it is to keep civil society as far as possible from the "serious" discussions among State-members like happen in UNCED (Rio-92) what is going to be the same now again in June in Rio. In my view we should send a strong opposition to this separeted model even when google shows two of the hotels as almost overlapping each other. Magaly Pazello 2012/4/4 Judy Okite > Split it into three? mmhhhhh > > 1. reduces the chances of hoping into one workshop , then leaving for > another? restricting freedom of movement, depending on the distance. > > I hope they bare in mind PWD's as well. > > > Kind Regards > *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > impossible” Edwin Land* > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > >> Roland, >> >> I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. >> >> - As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't yet >> confirmed. >> --The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading option >> they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split between two or >> 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue could also be >> the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be taking place) >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >> >> on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >> >> what venue has been selected. >> >> >> At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting >> across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Thu Apr 5 11:50:48 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 11:50:48 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07A6C889-F3CE-4759-8100-3BA98F2D901A@privaterra.org> Suffice it to say , I believe both the Business constituency and Civil society groups have an issue with a possible split-venue in Baku. This - shared concern - was expressed in very direct terms at the IGF consultation and open MAG meeting in Geneva this past February. We've yet to hear back from either the IGF secretariat or the Azeri host committee on the venue that has been selected. If it's not a downtown hotel, it likely will be the Baku Expo centre - one that we'll have to share with BakuTel that is taking place as exactly the same time. http://www.bakutel.az/2012/ regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-04-05, at 9:33 AM, Magaly Pazello wrote: > Hello! > This is very strange model I never have heard such thing in my work on UN conferences and meetings since 1992 also because security reasons it is much more practical and cheaper concentrate everything in one only location. This don't make sense. When UN split locations it is to keep civil society as far as possible from the "serious" discussions among State-members like happen in UNCED (Rio-92) what is going to be the same now again in June in Rio. In my view we should send a strong opposition to this separeted model even when google shows two of the hotels as almost overlapping each other. > > Magaly Pazello > > 2012/4/4 Judy Okite > Split it into three? mmhhhhh > > 1. reduces the chances of hoping into one workshop , then leaving for another? restricting freedom of movement, depending on the distance. > > I hope they bare in mind PWD's as well. > > > Kind Regards > “Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible” Edwin Land > > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Roland, > > I was at the consultation in Geneva back in Feb. > > - As of Feb, UN assessment had not yet taken place. So , venue wasn't yet confirmed. > --The Azeri delegation said they had several options . The leading option they were presenting was to host the event downtown, split between two or 3 hotels. However, it was also mentioned that the venue could also be the Baku Expo facility (where Baku Telecom will also be taking place) > > regards > > Robert > > > On 2012-04-04, at 12:21 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > >> on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Robert Guerra writes >>> what venue has been selected. >> >> At the last consultation they said the plan was to split the meeting across three adjacent venues: Hilton, Mariott and Park Inn. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 05/04/12 00:01 > De : "John Curran" > A : "Jean-Louis FULLSACK" > Copie à : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > >       On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: <(i.e. "at Internet speed")>  > > What is that ???? > > An extract from the article itself:  > "Come on Commissioners, you need to operate at internet speed here, otherwise you’ll lose momentum and risk credibility" > FYI, /John   > ---   On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL :  > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590&id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert   > > Solid assessment.  I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection to the  > Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other than  > to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet speed")  > > FYI, > /John > > Disclaimers: My views alone. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Thu Apr 5 17:33:25 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 23:33:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> Message-ID: <1224825707.165251.1333661605393.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j31> Many thanks Roland for this explanation. but I'm still wondering WHY "four times faster" ? Is there a mathematical or/and physical rationale for demonstrating the factor "four". I exclude the economical rationale because the "Internet bubble" invalidate it ! Best Jean-Louis fullsack > Message du 05/04/12 09:57 > De : "Roland Perry" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Jean-Louis FULLSACK writes > ><(i.e. "at Internet speed")> > > > >What is that ??? > > It's a concept dating back to just before the Dot-com bubble, where > events were described as happening in "Internet Time" - approximately > four times faster than any normal industry. > -- > Roland Perry > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Thu Apr 5 18:17:20 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:17:20 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <4F7E19F0.5060407@cafonso.ca> If the posting date in the ITU page were April 1st, it could be just a April fools' joke. But unfortunately the date is April 2nd and definitely is not a joke. Or is it? --c.a. On 04/02/2012 07:13 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/15.aspx > > wolfgang > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Thu Apr 5 18:23:46 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:23:46 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <820F676DE3334A039FDA795A1056CEE9@UserVAIO> References: <820F676DE3334A039FDA795A1056CEE9@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <4F7E1B72.5010204@cafonso.ca> Surprise! :) --c.a. On 04/04/2012 07:28 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > Hi John, > [...] > And, since you asked, I sent my blogpost to one of the Commissions' > "researchers", who replied with some irritation but who failed to directly > address any of the points that I, or the commentators on the post were > raising. > > M -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Thu Apr 5 18:28:37 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:28:37 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> Message-ID: <4F7E1C95.3020405@cafonso.ca> Which, like the bubble, may lead very quickly to disastrous results! --c.a. On 04/05/2012 04:55 AM, Roland Perry wrote: > on Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Jean-Louis FULLSACK writes >> <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> >> >> What is that ??? > > It's a concept dating back to just before the Dot-com bubble, where > events were described as happening in "Internet Time" - approximately > four times faster than any normal industry. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Thu Apr 5 21:08:34 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:08:34 +0000 Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Katitza: There is no information in your message about how to register as a resource person (no link) Since the IGF website is famous for being hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the relevant link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) There is also no information on how people planning workshops might make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like to know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for submitting proposals! --MM > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM > To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has already > being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old cpsr mailing > list). > > Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline for the > submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 April 2012. The > IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person registration form on > the website for people who want to be selected as panelists or resource > people for workshops. Finally, registration for the May consultations > will be the same registration form as the one for the WSIS forum: > http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- > SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 > > > All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF > Secretariat. > > All the best, > > Katitza -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Thu Apr 5 21:12:07 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:12:07 -0700 Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org> I found it here: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person/list-of-resource-person but not many people has registered. On 4/5/12 6:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > Katitza: > There is no information in your message about how to register as a resource person (no link) > Since the IGF website is famous for being hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the relevant link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) > > There is also no information on how people planning workshops might make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like to know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for submitting proposals! > > --MM > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM >> To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension >> >> I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has already >> being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old cpsr mailing >> list). >> >> Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline for the >> submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 April 2012. The >> IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person registration form on >> the website for people who want to be selected as panelists or resource >> people for workshops. Finally, registration for the May consultations >> will be the same registration form as the one for the WSIS forum: >> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- >> SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 >> >> >> All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF >> Secretariat. >> >> All the best, >> >> Katitza -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Thu Apr 5 21:14:42 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:14:42 +0000 Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F65@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> This just in: When you try to register as a resource person you are presented with a page that assumes you are proposing a new workshop. > -----Original Message----- > From: Katitza Rodriguez [mailto:katitza at eff.org] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:12 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller > Subject: Re: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > I found it here: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person/list-of-resource-person > but not many people has registered. > > On 4/5/12 6:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > Katitza: > > There is no information in your message about how to register as a > > resource person (no link) Since the IGF website is famous for being > > hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the relevant > > link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) > > > > There is also no information on how people planning workshops might > make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. > Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like to > know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for > submitting proposals! > > > > --MM > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM > >> To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > >> > >> I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has already > >> being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old cpsr mailing > >> list). > >> > >> Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline for > >> the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 April > >> 2012. The IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person > >> registration form on the website for people who want to be selected > >> as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, registration > >> for the May consultations will be the same registration form as the > one for the WSIS forum: > >> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- > >> SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 > >> > >> > >> All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF > >> Secretariat. > >> > >> All the best, > >> > >> Katitza > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom > of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Thu Apr 5 21:33:16 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 01:33:16 +0000 Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F65@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F65@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F7D@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Now I have a new one. If you sign up as a resource person, it asks you what region you "represent." Let's put aside the fact that this is a silly choice of words (no one "represents" an entire region - except perhaps for Parminder ;-) - it should ask what region you are FROM. The bigger problem is that there is no choice available for North America. There is WEOG, a "region" that I discover means "Western European and Other Group." So is this some kind of not-so-subtle hint that us privileged, hegemonic honkeys from America are not wanted as resource persons? Or are there still people who believe that if you go further west than Europe, you fall off the earth? whooooaaaa....!! I don't mind being an "other" I guess. It comes naturally. But wait, there's more. One of the fields asks you whether you "want to be considered as a resource panelist", Yes/No. So let me get this straight, someone who logs in and starts filling in a form called "Resource Person Sign Up Form" is going to answer this NO? Interacting with the IGF is always good for hours of amusement > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:15 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: RE: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > This just in: When you try to register as a resource person you are > presented with a page that assumes you are proposing a new workshop. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Katitza Rodriguez [mailto:katitza at eff.org] > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:12 PM > > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller > > Subject: Re: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > > > I found it here: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person/list-of-resource-person > > but not many people has registered. > > > > On 4/5/12 6:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > > Katitza: > > > There is no information in your message about how to register as a > > > resource person (no link) Since the IGF website is famous for being > > > hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the > > > relevant > > > link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) > > > > > > There is also no information on how people planning workshops might > > make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. > > Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like > > to know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for > > submitting proposals! > > > > > > --MM > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > > >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM > > >> To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > >> > > >> I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has > > >> already being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old > > >> cpsr mailing list). > > >> > > >> Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline > > >> for the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 > > >> April 2012. The IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person > > >> registration form on the website for people who want to be selected > > >> as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, > > >> registration for the May consultations will be the same > > >> registration form as the > > one for the WSIS forum: > > >> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- > > >> SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 > > >> > > >> > > >> All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF > > >> Secretariat. > > >> > > >> All the best, > > >> > > >> Katitza > > > > > > -- > > Katitza Rodriguez > > International Rights Director > > Electronic Frontier Foundation > > katitza at eff.org > > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and > > freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Fri Apr 6 00:52:35 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:52:35 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Message-ID: For your convenience, I have pulled the content of the Etherpad Workshop proposal here. You can make comments here, or write on the Etherpad. Thanks, izumi Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Quo Vadis IGF – or Evolution of IGF Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated by the UN Secretary General. This workshop will examine the discussions and the outcome of the CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement and share different views by different actors on the IGF improvements and their implementations. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Taking stock and Way Forward Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Q1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Q2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Q3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? YES Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=55 Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panelists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement [and others TBD] Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Avri Doria Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups. Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) Others [TBD] -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kovenronald at aol.com Fri Apr 6 04:34:21 2012 From: kovenronald at aol.com (Koven Ronald) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 04:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F7D@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org><855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu><4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org><855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F65@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F7D@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <8CEE1E732BBD658-984-56EB@webmail-d136.sysops.aol.com> Miltin -- You're apparently just discovering that the IGF is a UN body, where regional groups start with Group I -- Western Europe, North America and Israel, Bests, Rony Koven -----Original Message----- From: Milton L Mueller To: governance Sent: Fri, Apr 6, 2012 3:34 am Subject: RE: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension Now I have a new one. If you sign up as a resource person, it asks you what region you "represent." Let's put aside the fact that this is a silly choice of words (no one "represents" an entire region - except perhaps for Parminder ;-) - it should ask what region you are FROM. The bigger problem is that there is no choice available for North America. There is WEOG, a "region" that I discover means "Western European and Other Group." So is this some kind of not-so-subtle hint that us privileged, hegemonic honkeys from America are not wanted as resource persons? Or are there still people who believe that if you go further west than Europe, you fall off the earth? whooooaaaa....!! I don't mind being an "other" I guess. It comes naturally. But wait, there's more. One of the fields asks you whether you "want to be considered as a resource panelist", Yes/No. So let me get this straight, someone who logs in and starts filling in a form called "Resource Person Sign Up Form" is going to answer this NO? Interacting with the IGF is always good for hours of amusement > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:15 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: RE: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > This just in: When you try to register as a resource person you are > presented with a page that assumes you are proposing a new workshop. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Katitza Rodriguez [mailto:katitza at eff.org] > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:12 PM > > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller > > Subject: Re: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > > > I found it here: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person/list-of-resource-person > > but not many people has registered. > > > > On 4/5/12 6:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: > > > Katitza: > > > There is no information in your message about how to register as a > > > resource person (no link) Since the IGF website is famous for being > > > hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the > > > relevant > > > link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) > > > > > > There is also no information on how people planning workshops might > > make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. > > Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like > > to know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for > > submitting proposals! > > > > > > --MM > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > > >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM > > >> To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > >> > > >> I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has > > >> already being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old > > >> cpsr mailing list). > > >> > > >> Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline > > >> for the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 > > >> April 2012. The IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person > > >> registration form on the website for people who want to be selected > > >> as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, > > >> registration for the May consultations will be the same > > >> registration form as the > > one for the WSIS forum: > > >> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- > > >> SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 > > >> > > >> > > >> All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF > > >> Secretariat. > > >> > > >> All the best, > > >> > > >> Katitza > > > > > > -- > > Katitza Rodriguez > > International Rights Director > > Electronic Frontier Foundation > > katitza at eff.org > > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and > > freedom of speech since 1990 ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 6 05:07:19 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:07:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <1224825707.165251.1333661605393.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j31> References: <1399940429.62507.1333567445559.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <36B16478-3540-4AE2-84B6-C1C4DE36DF48@corp.arin.net> <1427985416.71956.1333575895740.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k11> <1224825707.165251.1333661605393.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j31> Message-ID: In message <1224825707.165251.1333661605393.JavaMail.www at wwinf1j31>, at 23:33:25 on Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Jean-Louis FULLSACK writes >Many thanks Roland for this explanation. > >but I'm still wondering WHY "four times faster" ? Is there a >mathematical or/and physical rationale for demonstrating the factor >"four". At the time it was said, with come justification, that backbone connectivity demand was doubling every 100 days. Customer numbers were increasing almost as fast. Investment cycles were very short (as soon as one set of equipment was installed you were looking for the next set). Companies were going back to their investors, suppliers and customers much more often than in traditional industries. And what we now call "Internet Governance" seemed to demand a cycle of multiple meetings a year, rather than the traditional annual meetings in other industries. As a back-of-the envelope calculation, the appropriate multiplier for this higher-than-normal rate of activity was somewhere between three and four. >I exclude the economical rationale because the "Internet bubble" >invalidate it The increased activity was driven very much by the economics of *demand* which continued to rise dramatically. The problem with the "bubble" was chronic over-supply of certain kinds of connectivity, plus an inability of many content-development projects to actually deliver (it seems you can't make software writers work four times faster, however hard you try), and hence pay back their investors. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 06:14:25 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 07:14:25 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <425275169.163091.1333658817886.JavaMail.www@wwinf1j31> Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_time M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis FULLSACK Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; JohnCurran Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission Well, I know What I'm asking for is the "internet speed" ; a buzz or a myth or ...? Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 05/04/12 00:01 > De : "John Curran" > A : "Jean-Louis FULLSACK" > Copie à : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> > > What is that ???? > > An extract from the article itself: > "Come on Commissioners, you need to operate at internet speed here, otherwise you’ll lose momentum and risk credibility" > FYI, /John > --- On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from the "critical" CS activists. > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590 &id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheB roadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert > > Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection to the > Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other than > to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet speed") > > FYI, > /John > > Disclaimers: My views alone. No grad students were harmed in production of this email. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Fri Apr 6 06:38:28 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:38:28 -0300 Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension In-Reply-To: <8CEE1E732BBD658-984-56EB@webmail-d136.sysops.aol.com> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> <4F7CE164.6060606@eff.org><855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F43@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu><4F7E42E7.4030601@eff.org><855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F65@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD2103F7D@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <8CEE1E732BBD658-984-56EB@webmail-d136.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4F7EC7A4.2060707@cafonso.ca> And we do want the participation of those privileged, hegemonic honkeys. What can be done? Seriously, the whole thing seems quite sloppy work. --c.a. On 04/06/2012 05:34 AM, Koven Ronald wrote: > Miltin -- > > > You're apparently just discovering that the IGF is a UN body, where regional groups start with Group I -- Western Europe, North America and Israel, > > > Bests, Rony Koven > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Milton L Mueller > To: governance > Sent: Fri, Apr 6, 2012 3:34 am > Subject: RE: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension > > > Now I have a new one. If you sign up as a resource person, it asks you what > region you "represent." > Let's put aside the fact that this is a silly choice of words (no one > "represents" an entire region - except perhaps for Parminder ;-) - it should ask > what region you are FROM. The bigger problem is that there is no choice > available for North America. There is WEOG, a "region" that I discover means > "Western European and Other Group." So is this some kind of not-so-subtle hint > that us privileged, hegemonic honkeys from America are not wanted as resource > persons? Or are there still people who believe that if you go further west than > Europe, you fall off the earth? whooooaaaa....!! > > I don't mind being an "other" I guess. It comes naturally. > > But wait, there's more. One of the fields asks you whether you "want to be > considered as a resource panelist", Yes/No. So let me get this straight, someone > who logs in and starts filling in a form called "Resource Person Sign Up Form" > is going to answer this NO? > > Interacting with the IGF is always good for hours of amusement > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller >> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:15 PM >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Subject: RE: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension >> >> This just in: When you try to register as a resource person you are >> presented with a page that assumes you are proposing a new workshop. >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Katitza Rodriguez [mailto:katitza at eff.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:12 PM >>> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller >>> Subject: Re: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension >>> >>> I found it here: >>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person/list-of-resource-person >>> but not many people has registered. >>> >>> On 4/5/12 6:08 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote: >>>> Katitza: >>>> There is no information in your message about how to register as a >>>> resource person (no link) Since the IGF website is famous for being >>>> hard to find your way around, here as a public service is the >>>> relevant >>>> link: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/resource-person (!) >>>> >>>> There is also no information on how people planning workshops might >>> make use of said registered people. I hope you can help me with that. >>> Presumably those of us putting together workship proposals might like >>> to know who we could use as resource people BEFORE the deadline for >>> submitting proposals! >>>> >>>> --MM >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- >>>>> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:04 PM >>>>> To: katitza at eff.org; governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>>> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal Deadline Extension >>>>> >>>>> I would like to apologize to everyone if this information has >>>>> already being sent to the list. (I sent this message to the old >>>>> cpsr mailing list). >>>>> >>>>> Due to stakeholder requests to the IGF Secretariat, the deadline >>>>> for the submission of workshop proposals has been extended to 20 >>>>> April 2012. The IGF Secretariat have also put up a resource person >>>>> registration form on the website for people who want to be selected >>>>> as panelists or resource people for workshops. Finally, >>>>> registration for the May consultations will be the same >>>>> registration form as the >>> one for the WSIS forum: >>>>> http://www.itu.int/cgi-bin/htsh/edrs/ITU- >>>>> SG/meetings/edrs.registration.form?_eventid=1000065 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All this information is up on the IGF Website according to the IGF >>>>> Secretariat. >>>>> >>>>> All the best, >>>>> >>>>> Katitza >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Katitza Rodriguez >>> International Rights Director >>> Electronic Frontier Foundation >>> katitza at eff.org >>> katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) >>> >>> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and >>> freedom of speech since 1990 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Fri Apr 6 06:40:33 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:40:33 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F7EC821.6060005@cafonso.ca> And on we go, leaving the tree for the branches again... let us drop this silly "internet time" thing and get back to the worth (or lack thereof) of yet anoter seemingly useless ITU commission. --c.a. On 04/06/2012 07:14 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_time > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis > FULLSACK > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; JohnCurran > Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > > > Well, I know > > What I'm asking for is the "internet speed" ; a buzz or a myth or ...? > > Jean-Louis Fullsack > > > > > >> Message du 05/04/12 00:01 >> De : "John Curran" >> A : "Jean-Louis FULLSACK" >> Copie à : governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission >> >> > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > > > <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> >> >> What is that ???? >> > > >> > > An extract from the article itself: > > > > >> > > "Come on Commissioners, you need to operate at internet speed here, > otherwise you’ll lose momentum and risk credibility" > > >> > > FYI, > > /John > > > > >> > > --- > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: >> >> > > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from > the "critical" CS activists. >> > > >> > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : >> > > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590 > 4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission > &utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert> > &id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheB > roadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert >> > > >> Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection > to the >> Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other > than >> to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet > speed") >> >> FYI, >> /John >> >> Disclaimers: My views alone. No grad students were harmed in production of > this email. > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 06:42:13 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 07:42:13 -0300 Subject: [governance] FW: [CivicAccess-discuss] Open Government Partnership - Virtual Participation Opportunities Message-ID: <97A55515672C4977B4034E6216DDF0BA@UserVAIO> For background on the Open Government Partnership (OGP) and Open Government Data (OGD) see http://www.guardian.co.uk/public-leaders-network/2012/apr/03/brasilia-2012-o pen-government-partnership?newsfeed=true (BTW, the OGP is a very interesting example of an emerging global multi-stakeholder partnership with normative, advocacy, and training components -- and others likely to emerge quite quickly out of this event and those that will follow... For a somewhat more skeptical/critical/community informatics based perspective on OGD see below (and other of my blogposts on OGD http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/09/02/open-data-empowering-the-empowered- or-effective-data-use-for-everyone/ http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/are-the-open-data-warriors-fighting -for-robin-hood-or-the-sheriff-some-reflections-on-okcon-2011-and-the-emergi ng-data-divide/ http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/a-data-divide-data-%E2%80%9Chaves%E 2%80%9D-and-%E2%80%9Chave-nots%E2%80%9D-and-open-government-data/ The Journal of Community Informatics http://ci-journal.net will be publishing a special issue on Community Informatics and Open Government Data next week in anticipation of the OGP meeting in Brasilia... M -----Original Message----- From: civicaccess-discuss-bounces at civicaccess.ca [mailto:civicaccess-discuss-bounces at civicaccess.ca] On Behalf Of Harvey Low Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:59 PM To: CivicAccess-discuss at civicaccess.ca Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] Open Government Partnership - Virtual Participation Opportunities Hello everyone: The first annual meeting of the Open Government Partnership www.opengovpartnership.org/ is taking place in Brasilia on April 17-18, 2012! Many people working on open government may not be able to attend in person, so the OGP has worked with a number of external partners to come up with numerous ways for you to participate virtually from wherever you may be. Here are some of the online activities that OGP will be hosting during the annual meeting in Brasilia. Please join us online on April 17-18! Online Content. The program and materials provided to those in Brasilia will be available on the OGP website in advance of the meeting. Photos from the event will be posted each day of the event. OGP will also publish blog posts summarizing each day's events and outcomes. Want to view the OGP meeting materials? Visit the meeting page! Webcast & Interviews. From the speeches given by world leaders to the breakout panel discussions with open government practitioners, all of the activities in Brasilia will be broadcast live on the web. During breaks in the program, the webcast will feature live interviews with presenters, government representatives, and open government leaders in attendance. Online viewers will be able to pose questions to those being interviewed. Live Chat. Alongside the webcast, OGP will host a live chat where visitors can post comments directly. Tweets and Facebook updates discussing the OGP meeting will also be viewable in the chat (be sure to use hashtag #OGPBrasilia2012 and #OGP2012 on Twitter). We will poll viewers in real-time to see who is watching, where they are, what their interests are, and what are their thoughts on the program. We will also provide analysis of the conversation happening via social media. Want to participate in the webcast and live chat? Please register!Guardian Digital Hub. Guardian Public Leaders Network, the digital media partner for the annual meeting in Brasilia, developed an OGP digital hub supporting the online coverage of the upcoming OGP Brasilia 2012 Annual Meeting. The hub features articles from co-chairs Maria Otero and Jorge Hage, interviews and interactive content. During the event Guardian will be blogging live from Brasilia, posting exclusive videos and providing expert analysis on the key issues arising at the meeting. For more information please visit the Guardian OGP Digital Hub. Meetup Everywhere. 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The IGF 2012 Host Country Website (www.igf2012.az orwww.igf2012.com) is ready and will be launched in an hour. The organizers are in the process of updating the website with visa information and it will be available shortly. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30854D84-5763-44E7-B6ED-A665ED66A1A5@acm.org> On 4 Apr 2012, at 11:39, Robert Guerra wrote: > - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise in the May consultations in Geneva. since the MAG meetings were opened, and hopefully will remain so, perhaps those who put their names forward should plan on being there, either in the capacity of MAG members or peanut gallery, which ever ends up being the case. And this time, since the whole WSIS meeting is happening, there might even be a few other interesting meetings to participate in. So, it fund raising is required, perhaps it is time to start and not wait for the MAG decision. avri -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 6 10:01:20 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:01:20 +0100 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: <30854D84-5763-44E7-B6ED-A665ED66A1A5@acm.org> References: <30854D84-5763-44E7-B6ED-A665ED66A1A5@acm.org> Message-ID: <9v4GJ$lwcvfPFA6o@internetpolicyagency.com> In message <30854D84-5763-44E7-B6ED-A665ED66A1A5 at acm.org>, at 09:11:12 on Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Avri Doria writes >> - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by >>outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise in the May consultations in Geneva. > >since the MAG meetings were opened, and hopefully will remain so, perhaps those who put their names forward should plan on being there, either >in the capacity of MAG members or peanut gallery, which ever ends up being the case. A very sensible suggestion for Civil Society candidates. On the other hand, the remaining stakeholder groups, who are often attending as part of their "day job", might have difficulty justifying a trip on that basis. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 15:22:55 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 16:22:55 -0300 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: <30854D84-5763-44E7-B6ED-A665ED66A1A5@acm.org> Message-ID: <400127CB3B2B4BA98C3BCF55DB289218@UserVAIO> Hi Avri, I would be extremely surprised if I passed the MAG vetting process, but just in case--do you have any suggestions as to where I might look for travel funding? M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:11 AM To: IGC Subject: Re: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? On 4 Apr 2012, at 11:39, Robert Guerra wrote: Hi > - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the > new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by > outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise > in the May consultations in Geneva. since the MAG meetings were opened, and hopefully will remain so, perhaps those who put their names forward should plan on being there, either in the capacity of MAG members or peanut gallery, which ever ends up being the case. And this time, since the whole WSIS meeting is happening, there might even be a few other interesting meetings to participate in. So, it fund raising is required, perhaps it is time to start and not wait for the MAG decision. avri -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Fri Apr 6 21:31:19 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 21:31:19 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: <400127CB3B2B4BA98C3BCF55DB289218@UserVAIO> References: <400127CB3B2B4BA98C3BCF55DB289218@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <3FD9CD1A-CD43-480F-A950-0D563B51C126@acm.org> Hi, I don't know where you find money. I just ask people/organizations I know of who have money. Often offering to write some report, paper or do some research in return for the funding. Various of my friends think I am too brazen about'standing on street corners offering "will write for travel funding" And I am sure there are those on IGC that would suspect me of selling myself, though I think I remain true to my beliefs no matter who my patron may end up being. I can't seem to write things I don't beleive in. Sometimes I find full funding Sometimes I find partial funding and sometimes my credit card provides funding in return for interest payments. but even after using my credit card I don't stop begging for funding until I either find it or it is too late to bother. avri On 6 Apr 2012, at 15:22, michael gurstein wrote: > Hi Avri, > > I would be extremely surprised if I passed the MAG vetting process, but just > in case--do you have any suggestions as to where I might look for travel > funding? > > M > > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:11 AM > To: IGC > Subject: Re: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? > > > > On 4 Apr 2012, at 11:39, Robert Guerra wrote: > Hi >> - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for the >> new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get briefed by >> outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that will arise >> in the May consultations in Geneva. > > since the MAG meetings were opened, and hopefully will remain so, perhaps > those who put their names forward should plan on being there, either in the > capacity of MAG members or peanut gallery, which ever ends up being the > case. > > And this time, since the whole WSIS meeting is happening, there might even > be a few other interesting meetings to participate in. > > So, it fund raising is required, perhaps it is time to start and not wait > for the MAG decision. > > avri > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Sat Apr 7 03:49:46 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:49:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F7EC821.6060005@cafonso.ca> References: <4F7EC821.6060005@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: <1050516606.77778.1333784986591.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g32> Well said, Carlos ! This would/could be a fruitful debate within CS committed in the WSIS follow-up process. And could add some value to this process during the coming May Forum (and perhaps more "athmosphere" :-)  and revitalize the (flagging) sessions ! There are a lot of questions to raise, i.a. - the unilateral decision (by ITU and Unesco) of its creation and its functions - the opaque process of the nomination of its members and its "board" - the questionable personnality of its "chairs" - How "ethical" is this BBC ? (reminder : Ethics is AL C-10 in the WSIS Action Plan) - Need and Role of the BBC Imho since there isn't any need for such a body, hence the CS should not struggle to become a "member" by getting a "jump seat" ! As far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to exchange with neither Carlos Slim nor Paul Kagamé. Let me just mention that Carlos Slim is the world richest man (n° 1 in Forbes 2010 ranking, with 75 billion dollars) who added some 18 billions in his pockets in 2010 thanks to the 37% growth of its investment holding, as mentioned in Le Monde, february 4th, 2011. Enough fo financing the most needed ICT infrastructure in all the DCs ... Best BTW : Can somebody explain what the uNESCo has to do in such a venture ? Jean-Louis Fullsack > Message du 06/04/12 12:40 > De : "Carlos A. Afonso" > A : governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "michael gurstein" > Copie à : "'Jean-Louis FULLSACK'" > Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > And on we go, leaving the tree for the branches again... let us drop > this silly "internet time" thing and get back to the worth (or lack > thereof) of yet anoter seemingly useless ITU commission. > > --c.a. > > On 04/06/2012 07:14 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_time > > > > M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis > > FULLSACK > > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:47 PM > > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; JohnCurran > > Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > > > > > > > Well, I know > > > > What I'm asking for is the "internet speed" ; a buzz or a myth or ...? > > > > Jean-Louis Fullsack > > > > > > > > > > > >> Message du 05/04/12 00:01 > >> De : "John Curran" > >> A : "Jean-Louis FULLSACK" > >> Copie à : governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> Objet : Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > > > > > > <(i.e. "at Internet speed")> > >> > >> What is that ???? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > An extract from the article itself: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "Come on Commissioners, you need to operate at internet speed here, > > otherwise you’ll lose momentum and risk credibility" > > > > > >> > > > > FYI, > > > > /John > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > --- > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote: > >> > >> > > > > This is another opinion on the BBC and its "activity". It's not coming from > > the "critical" CS activists. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Source TelecomTV Newsletter URL : > >> > > > > http://www.telecomtv.com/comspace_newsDetail.aspx?n=48590 > > > > 4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheBroadbandCommission > > &utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert> > > &id=f6518dac-5240-4f26-b46b-277875988af6&utm_campaign=DailyNews030412CanTheB > > roadbandCommission&utm_medium=email&utm_source=TTV-Daily-News-Alert > >> > > > > > >> Solid assessment. I'll note that It doesn't appear to take any objection > > to the > >> Broadband Commission process or the outcomes in the recent report, other > > than > >> to note that the Commission needs to operate faster (i.e. "at Internet > > speed") > >> > >> FYI, > >> /John > >> > >> Disclaimers: My views alone. No grad students were harmed in production of > > this email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 04:42:24 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:42:24 +0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <4F7FFDF0.5010500@gmail.com> Parminder Thanks for this input and analysis. For me what is important is that you and others continue to push for genuinely democratic participation that ensures a concept of fairness (that is fidelity to weaker members of society). It will not do to have formal liberal/progressive assumptions of equality. When looked at in this light, and from the tenor of most discussions on this topic, one can see that the "threat" to fairness is really from those who espouse (?pseudo-) liberal values. The balance of forces are tipped against fairness in large order (it is almost as if one has to explain the point that in "market" oriented system those with money exercise disproportionate power - as you pointed out on multi-stakeholderism). If one recalls the dynamic coalitions on Intellectual Property and the kinds of discussions that were had by the luminaries given pride of place, we can see that the predictive value (or rather relevance) of these sessions were rather pedestrian or poor - and now we see very real threats to the internet coming from the North (for export to the South). As far as guardians of a liberal and humane order, I personally conclude that Weapons of Mass Distraction are typically deployed so that an innocuous safety valve is allowed, while "real" issues get sidelined. Contextualised in a non-binding format of the IGF, this reflects a reactionary predilection of enormous proportions. But there is a good core of people here that question the dominant debates (and most importantly the /framing/ of debates) that ensures that these (?pseudo-) liberals do not hold the monopoly on the debates. In this way it is at best a rear guard action to prevent a complete rout of the fairness brigade. It is a pity that more people do not see the relevance of the South positions you advocated, which in large order has been vindicated. While I have problems with Zizek, he puts the predicament of our times for progressive people-centred (not to be confused with consumer-centred) as: _catastrophic but not serious._ Americans can now be strip and body cavity searched for any infraction, while ACTA continues in the fine tradition of 'the best democracy can buy' while the likes of you, Guerstein, Mueller, etc have to insist on arguments based on sound reasoning that does not gain traction. Perhaps this is just politics, but those who push this play toward the norms of power, not those of the public interest. There is a kind of post-modernist bliss in the framing of the (?pseudo-) liberal arguments - where everyone (or almost everyone) has a right to be heard, and that solves everything. This is interest based politics, and largely an abandonment of reason, no matter what the sophists might think, and reasoning is the ticket for the civil in civil society i.e. you are playing in uncivil society. And if one is merely engaged in this kind of stuff, then reason is a hostage to powerful interests. Implicit in all of this is the contention that there is US (or rich country) exceptionalism, which to some extent is true, but increasingly less so. Collective processes have their merits, but perhaps it is time for some of those with concerns that are shared North and South to develop a framework (for collective action) to deepen (instead of broaden) their issue-engagement in these processes to avoid least common denominator outcomes. Gurstein for eg on CSO participation has made some interesting proposals that perhaps can be the basis for parallel processes so that the (?pseudo-) liberals can be saved from themselves. The system needs contradiction and antagonism, that is simply the evolutionary (not to be confused with Social Darwinism) process of capitalism, which of itself is a revolutionary force... The IPR debates and issues are merely a reflection of what happened to African and other countries on the health debates for access to medicines. There we were talking about a death sentence for brown people, and the internet issues are somewhat less violent, which makes for a more difficult case to make. Of course Americans after strengthening these forces (diplomats, bureaucrats, officials) in their countries left them open to abuse in their health care debates (a most inefficient outcome - USers spend more than any advanced country with poorer health outcomes). But somehow the connection is not made, that if you strengthen forces that can intimidate and shame the likes of Mandela that these forces will come and bite you. A similar process is underway on the net - with the self-righteous, well oiled and well heeled guardians (aka apologists) in tow. For your and others rather lonely battle, as I am just a useless lurker, perhaps take solace in the Mead'ian quote: *Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.* This is a fine American tradition of peaceful (and unlike me you have grace and charm) change that I hope you continue to claim and deny the monopoly of action to the pesudo-liberals. Of course, I am being deliberately provocative and not very practical, Keep up the excellent work my friend... Peace Riaz On 2012/04/04 02:46 PM, parminder wrote: > John, > > Thanks for your engagement. However, as you suspected, your assertions > are indeed controversial/ problematic. > > Your advice is not to go into formal aspects of a governance/ policy > mechanism but only focus on the output side. I would come to the > output side but lets first deal with the importance of formal aspects. > To those who protested against Mubarak's regime, would you have > advised that instead of fighting for democracy against > authoritarianism, they should look at and argue by the work and > outputs of regime, and not its formal qualities. It is, for instance, > possible to argue that Mubarak may have kept a tighter leash on > fundamentalist groups than the emerging democracy seems to be able to > keep...... > > Closer home, since apparently you believe in multistakeholderism, > would you agree to a governance system that is not open, > participative, transparent etc although it seem not to have any > particularly disagreeable output? In fact, the IG civil society - > including the IGC - seems to spend so much time on just the issue of > multistakeholderism that some of us would want it to get more directly > into substantive issues. > > So, the question is, why does impatience with formal aspects of > governance/ policy regimes show only when democratic forms, values and > norms are being spoken of - like conflict of interest, keeping > powerful private interests out of policy making etc. > > Do you really think that it is a good/ acceptable idea to have > telecoms dominate a policy body on telecom? Would you accept it in > your own country? Would your compatriots accept it in your country? On > the same logic, would you accept a health policy body dominated by > pharma companies - at your country level, and at the WHO? Simple > direct questions going very much to the heart of the issue which I > hope you will answer. > > parminder > > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 05:18 PM, John Curran wrote: >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:20 AM, parminder wrote: >>> Many people take IG's multistakeholderism, as it is practised, to be >>> but a trojan horse for mega corporates to enter and dominate policy >>> spaces, and their perception may not be entirely misplaced. Civil >>> society needs to do more to dispel this impression, but sadly it >>> doesnt... >> >> Parminder, Jean-Louis - >> >> I know this may be controversial, but rather than focusing the titles >> of those leading this >> effort, wouldn't it be more practical to comment on the actual >> work, and how it does or >> doesn't meet the needs of civil society? >> >> They have laid out four goals: >> >>> • Target 1: Making broadband policy universal. By 2015, all >>> countries should have a national broadband plan or strategy or >>> include broadband in their Universal Access / Service Definitions. >>> >>> • Target 2: Making broadband affordable. By 2015, entry-level >>> broadband services should be made affordable in developing countries >>> through adequate regulation and market forces (amounting to less >>> than 5% of average monthly income). >>> >>> • Target 3: Connecting homes to broadband. By 2015, 40% of >>> households in developing countries should have Internet access. >>> >>> • Target 4: Getting people online. By 2015, Internet user >>> penetration should reach 60% worldwide, 50% in developing countries >>> and 15% in LDCs. >> >> Are these the right goals? If not, why not, and what should the >> goals be instead? Has >> CS indicated otherwise the ITU Broadband Commission, and if so, what >> happened? >> >> They have a "Sharehouse" open to any and all for submission of >> materials to be considered >> including "case studies, best practice, analytical reports and policy >> recommendations." - >> (). They >> also have working >> groups which appear to include additional participants from outside >> the Commission and >> from academia, industry and public institutions. The IT Broadband >> Commission web site >> provides most of this information in an very straightfoward manner, >> with outcomes and major >> reports available in six major languages. >> >> Having participating in several more 'classic' ITU initiatives, I >> will say that I find this relatively >> straightforward in comparison and while perhaps imperfect in some >> aspects, it is much closer >> to what many folks have been asking for in multi-stakeholder policy >> development than past >> practices by these organizations. >> >> I have no involvement in the ITU Broadband Commission (and am the >> probably one of the last >> folks on the planet expected to speak in defense of the ITU's >> attempts at multi-stakeholder >> engagement), but is there an actual issue here to respond to? >> Has IGC or other CS >> organizations attempted to engage with the ITU Broadband Commission >> and been told that >> they are not welcome? Has input been provided for consideration or >> to the working groups >> been set aside in the preparation of the major reports and outcomes? >> If so, then this matter >> should indeed be a major concern and should be raised loudly at WSIS >> and elsewhere. >> However, if the issue is the Broadband Commission failing to listen >> due to lack of actual >> participation and input, then expressing concern over its structure >> is not only specious, but >> it dilutes the voice of civil society when addressing matters of >> actual substance elsewhere. >> >> /John >> >> Disclaimers: My views alone. Concepts in the email may appear larger >> in real life. Your results >> may vary. No user-serviceable parts inside. Do not use this email as >> an exit in case of fire. >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sat Apr 7 06:30:33 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 06:30:33 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F7FFDF0.5010500@gmail.com> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> <4F7FFDF0.5010500@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:42 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > > But there is a good core of people here that question the dominant debates (and most importantly the framing of debates) that ensures that these (?pseudo-) liberals do not hold the monopoly on the debates. Questioning the framing of the dominant debates is fine academic exercise. Deciding not to participate in them on principle is more interesting question, along the lines of MLK's ‘If you confront a man who has been cruelly misusing you, and say “Punish me, if you will; I do not deserve it, but I will accept it, so that the world will know I am right and you are wrong,” then you wield a powerful and just weapon.’ The assumption being, of course, that the world even notices your decision not to participate at all in these debates... /John Disclaimer: My views alone. Warning - the consumption of raw or underprepared viewpoints may significantly increase your risk of mental health illness. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 07:10:31 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:10:31 +0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> <4F7FFDF0.5010500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F8020A7.4070508@gmail.com> Thanks for this perspicacity. Yes, there is a paradox of participation, i.e. by participating one can legitimise what one intends to oppose. That in of itself is not a reason not to participate. The issue is that one can be so radical as to be irrelevant, and so reformist as to not even be incrementalist. And these all depend on fine judgement of the range of possibility that fora have within them. So there is no formulae for this. The key issue for me would be a culture of meaningful respect for diversity in these movements/processes. What we had in the swings of the pendulum on this list tends toward more rich country/market orientation views IMHO without adequate cognition of the need for diversity. This convergence implies a homogenising effect. So it is different strokes for different folks, with some engaging and others commenting from afar. All should be tenable, and governance structures should encourage diverging views with an emphasis on fairness. Like it will not do to have bankers in charge of government rules on finance, a similar approach needs to be appreciated in the IG processes. But this rather obvious point is one that Parminder and others even struggle with here. Diversity on views is important in this context, and should be encouraged rather than discouraged. On 2012/04/07 01:30 PM, John Curran wrote: > On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:42 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: >> >> But there is a good core of people here that question the dominant >> debates (and most importantly the /framing/ of debates) that ensures >> that these (?pseudo-) liberals do not hold the monopoly on the debates. > > Questioning the framing of the dominant debates is fine academic > exercise. > Deciding not to participate in them on principle is more interesting > question, > along the lines of MLK's ‘If you confront a man who has been cruelly > misusing > you, and say “Punish me, if you will; I do not deserve it, but I will > accept it, > so that the world will know I am right and you are wrong,” then you > wield a > powerful and just weapon.’ The assumption being, of course, that the > world even notices your decision not to participate at all in these > debates... > > /John > > Disclaimer: My views alone. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sat Apr 7 09:07:56 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:07:56 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F8020A7.4070508@gmail.com> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCA9F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> <1049948844.96072.1333438458935.JavaMail.www@wwinf1d17> <4F7AC0E1.4020809@itforchange.net> <1E649A9D-7EC6-4DD1-B610-4E8CB0197AC1@istaff.org> <4F7C3487.2090304@itforchange.net> <4F7FFDF0.5010500@gmail.com> <4F8020A7.4070508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A59D1A2-92F4-438D-AF16-2D0AA51C0486@istaff.org> On Apr 7, 2012, at 7:10 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > Thanks for this perspicacity. > > Yes, there is a paradox of participation, i.e. by participating one can legitimise what one intends to oppose. That in of itself is not a reason not to participate. > > The issue is that one can be so radical as to be irrelevant, and so reformist as to not even be incrementalist. And these all depend on fine judgement of the range of possibility that fora have within them. So there is no formulae for this. Agreed. Personally, I find it particularly important to encourage any motion towards multi-stakeholder approaches in the long-established intergovernmental institutions, as their convolutions in the coming years are likely to impact IG whether we like it or not... > The key issue for me would be a culture of meaningful respect for diversity in these movements/processes. What we had in the swings of the pendulum on this list tends toward more rich country/market orientation views IMHO without adequate cognition of the need for diversity. This convergence implies a homogenising effect. > > So it is different strokes for different folks, with some engaging and others commenting from afar. All should be tenable, and governance structures should encourage diverging views with an emphasis on fairness. Like it will not do to have bankers in charge of government rules on finance, a similar approach needs to be appreciated in the IG processes. But this rather obvious point is one that Parminder and others even struggle with here. The typical answer of governments on this is that the bankers (or industry in general) isn't in charge; i.e. government protects the diversity of views by providing both industry & civil society seats at the table. This often often overlooks the fact that the table is in Geneva (etc.) and requires some form of funding to meaningfully participate, or that the 'civil society' invited at the table are leaders of foundations due to their previous stature as leaders of industry... I don't know any way to address these concerns, other than to have multiple policy discussions via local/regional forums and inclusive as possible, and then to require some form of concurrence among the forums before anything can become decisional... (this is the practice in the RIR system, and while imperfect, does mean that global policy gets openly debated in multiple local forums with repeated opportunity for non-industry views to be raised... :-) > Diversity on views is important in this context, and should be encouraged rather than discouraged. Indeed. /John Disclaimer: My views alone. Concepts contained within the email only have value in your mind and may not be redeemed for cash at any time. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 09:23:46 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 10:23:46 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> John, I want to make two points concerning your note below... I think it is only meaningful to participate in discussions where there is an opportunity for meaningful interaction. In the case of the BBC I see no such opportunities as yet... Maybe there will be some, maybe I've missed something but all I see is an open ended facility to contribute my knowledge/experience with nothing received in return, and no agreed upon framework for translating what I (or others) might contribute into something of value -- and certainly no opportunity for effective intervention. I think your mistake is in using the term "debate" which to me implies interaction, response, some sort of back and forth, and so on. Please show me where such opportunities for "debate" are provided through the BBC. Also, I don't know your background but others on this list (as have I) have been involved in one iteration or another in the ICT4D space for many years--there was WSIS, the ICT4D Commission, the DOTForce, the ICT Task Force, the GAID, and two or three others whose names I've forgotten--all of which had rather similar structures although perhaps not as stellar an array of participants. The opportunities for participation in the earlier iterations varied from none to a bit to considerable (for some). What impact this had on outcomes is something to be discussed. The most recent iteration of this prior to the BBC was the GAID, which a number of us were quite involved with and which I personally put quite a lot of time and attention into since (at first) it seemed that something meaningful might result. But then it became a retirement project for various notables and has drifted off into who knows where/what... As I noted in my blogpost, the BBC didn't even seem to have a knowledge of this history let alone learning something from it. I personally see no reason to believe that it will be anything more useful/effectful than any of the vehicles that have gone before and considerable evidence that it will in fact be even less useful/open to the kind of input and advice that I would consider to be of signficance and long term value. So good luck with it, Mike -----Original Message----- ) From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of John Curran Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:31 AM To: Riaz K Tayob Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:42 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: But there is a good core of people here that question the dominant debates (and most importantly the framing of debates) that ensures that these (?pseudo-) liberals do not hold the monopoly on the debates. Questioning the framing of the dominant debates is fine academic exercise. Deciding not to participate in them on principle is more interesting question, along the lines of MLK's 'If you confront a man who has been cruelly misusing you, and say "Punish me, if you will; I do not deserve it, but I will accept it, so that the world will know I am right and you are wrong," then you wield a powerful and just weapon.' 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sat Apr 7 09:46:46 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 09:46:46 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:23 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > As I noted in my blogpost, the BBC didn't even seem to have a knowledge of this history let alone learning something from it. I personally see no reason to believe that it will be anything more useful/effectful than any of the vehicles that have gone before and considerable evidence that it will in fact be even less useful/open to the kind of input and advice that I would consider to be of signficance and long term value. > > So good luck with it, Mike - I myself have little knowledge of what input on broadband development would be most appropriate for the BBC to consider, but note that it takes about 5 minutes to submit a document into their process. There may not be any opportunity for meaningful interaction, but I also will not fault them for failing to consider relevant documents that no one brings to their attention. Best, /John Disclaimer: My views alone. This is email is industrial packaged, and not for consumer use. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Apr 7 12:26:06 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:26:06 +0200 Subject: [governance] SOPA References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> FYI Brigner moved from MPAA to ISOC. Interesting move :-))) http://news.cnet.com/8618-31921_3-57404804.html?assetTypeId=12&messageId=12154966&tag=mncol&txt Happy Easter Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Apr 7 12:34:16 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:34:16 +0200 Subject: [governance] Google References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE3@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Google´s Easter Egg: "We have always believed that it's possible to make money without being evil." Larry Page http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-04-04/googles-page-apples-android-pique-for-show http://investor.google.com/corporate/2012/ceo-letter.html Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Sat Apr 7 12:39:23 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:39:23 +0200 Subject: [governance] ACTA References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE4@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> The central question is: does ACTA raise more hopes than fears, or more fears than hopes? MEP David Martin http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/article/1728/fear-outweighs-hope-in-acta-debate wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Sat Apr 7 12:51:50 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 01:51:50 +0900 Subject: [governance] SOPA In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: He's a nice guy, but of course people are people... This might be of interest Expect he would have applied for the ISOC job when he was speaking. Adam 2012/4/8 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" : > FYI > > Brigner moved from MPAA to ISOC. Interesting move :-))) > > http://news.cnet.com/8618-31921_3-57404804.html?assetTypeId=12&messageId=12154966&tag=mncol&txt > > Happy Easter > > Wolfgang > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sat Apr 7 13:19:54 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:49:54 +0530 Subject: [governance] SOPA In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCAE2@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <4F80773A.9030901@itforchange.net> On Saturday 07 April 2012 09:56 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > FYI > > Brigner moved from MPAA to ISOC. Interesting move :-))) > And before that he was at Verizon, emphatically opposing network neutrality. I am not sure what does ISOC see itself as, I mean what kind of organisation, based on what kind of principles. After all, it is often accepted as the face of the technical community by policy forums like IGF, CSTD, OECD etc. It is this new age, completely unprincipled take on public interest engagements with policy forums that I find very problematic and distressing (continuing from the issues raised in exchanges with John Curran on the the Broadband Commission). We are losing the basic norms and values of democratic public life, and the IG civil society seem least bothered about this erosion. Somehow, only one 'principle' is sacrosant, multistakeholderism, which too, interestingly, its strongest adherent are always hesitant to get into a real debate about. parminder > > http://news.cnet.com/8618-31921_3-57404804.html?assetTypeId=12&messageId=12154966&tag=mncol&txt > > Happy Easter > > Wolfgang > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sat Apr 7 16:22:36 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:22:36 +0000 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. Since for example Carlos Slim may be personally a nice guy but he has been absolutely ruthless stifling competitors in the Mexican telecoms market. Telmex's exploitation (only word for it) of the Mexican market has caused very high service prices to this day, which may account for the limited uptake of broadband services there. Just a guess. In fact Carlos and Mexico has long been my favorite object lesson in my classes for my students on the benefits of exploiting telecom monopoly 101: you too can become the world's richest, IF you find the right telecoms market to control!! Or, put another way, why you/your business/organization/nation should favor competing providers. Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of John Curran [jcurran at istaff.org] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:46 AM To: michael gurstein Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:23 AM, michael gurstein wrote: As I noted in my blogpost, the BBC didn't even seem to have a knowledge of this history let alone learning something from it. I personally see no reason to believe that it will be anything more useful/effectful than any of the vehicles that have gone before and considerable evidence that it will in fact be even less useful/open to the kind of input and advice that I would consider to be of signficance and long term value. So good luck with it, Mike - I myself have little knowledge of what input on broadband development would be most appropriate for the BBC to consider, but note that it takes about 5 minutes to submit a document into their process. There may not be any opportunity for meaningful interaction, but I also will not fault them for failing to consider relevant documents that no one brings to their attention. Best, /John Disclaimer: My views alone. This is email is industrial packaged, and not for consumer use. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Sat Apr 7 17:40:05 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 17:40:05 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO> <416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. Lee - At this late date, you're probably correct. It's unfortunate that we'll have the lost the opportunity to actually assess the effectiveness of Internet governance participation mechanisms that have been afforded to those not on the Commission; it's the type of academic study that we could have used in the future to point out that not all multi-stakeholder engagement processes are equal, and (ala Michael Gurstein) that "random, non-directed, open ended, structureless, formless" calls for input are not sufficient. /John Disclaimer: My views alone. Professional Internet curmudgeon on a high-bandwidth link; do not try this at home. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jlfullsack at orange.fr Sun Apr 8 04:11:06 2012 From: jlfullsack at orange.fr (Jean-Louis FULLSACK) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:11:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <1729312873.110044.1333872666557.JavaMail.www@wwinf1k29> Lee, your comments on Carlos Slim are just a (good) track. Don't hesitate and push a little farther your enquiry and you'll find that the rise of its fortune has something to do with corruption and (very) questionable take-overs mainly in the Latin America "market". Once again : where are ethics in this sad story created by the ITU (no surprisingly for most observers) but also by the UNESCO (!) ? When the SG of the ITU declares broadband as a fundamental right for Humans just as water and electricity, this is either a provocation or even an abuse for a billion people living in DCs, and particularly for the most of them trying to live with a minimum of dignity in sub-saharan Africa ! CS cannot any longer support such scandalous drifts in international bodies and forra unless it is soulless. There are definitely a lot of alternative ways and means for helpng DCs and their peoples to get a better future, and the main role of CS from "North" and "South" is to work them out and implement them accordingly to the needs and and the expecations of the populations concerned. Technology offers a large spectrum that can effectively alleviate their living and shape a better future for them. And ICTs are among them and have their place. all their place, but in full respect with the human, social and economical environment. I'm fed up with the technopositive and ultraliberal discurse in the WSIS Fora and regret the silence of CS during their boring sessions. Let's try to change this during the coming WSIS Forum in next May. It's highest time for CS to wake up. Best Easter greetings Jean-Louis Fullsack CSDPTT      > Message du 07/04/12 22:23 > De : "Lee W McKnight" > A : "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" , "John Curran" , "michael gurstein" > Copie à : > Objet : RE: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would  as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. > > Since for example Carlos Slim may be personally a nice guy but he has been absolutely ruthless stifling competitors in the Mexican telecoms market. Telmex's exploitation (only word for it) of the Mexican market has caused very high service prices to this day, which may account for the limited uptake of broadband services there. Just a guess. > > In fact Carlos and Mexico has long been my favorite object lesson in my classes for my students on the benefits of exploiting telecom monopoly 101: you too can become the world's richest, IF you find the right telecoms market to control!! Or, put another way, why you/your business/organization/nation should favor competing providers. > > Lee > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of John Curran [jcurran at istaff.org] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 9:46 AM > To: michael gurstein > Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:23 AM, michael gurstein wrote: As I noted in my blogpost, the BBC didn't even seem to have a knowledge of this history let alone learning something from it.  I personally see no reason to believe that it will be anything more useful/effectful than any of the vehicles that have gone before and considerable evidence that it will in fact be even less useful/open to the kind of input and advice that I would consider to be of signficance and long term value.   So good luck with it, > Mike -  > I myself have little knowledge of what input on broadband development would be  most appropriate for the BBC to consider, but note that it takes about 5 minutes  to submit a document into their process.  There may not be any opportunity for  meaningful interaction, but I also will not fault them for failing to consider relevant  documents that no one brings to their attention. > Best, /John > Disclaimer:  My views alone.  This is email is industrial packaged, and not for                    consumer use. ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Sun Apr 8 11:39:43 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:39:43 -0400 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: > My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. > > I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. my thoughts for an easter morning. avri -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sun Apr 8 22:18:26 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:48:26 +0530 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> The original issue in this discussion was whether conflict of interest is an important principle to ensure and fight for with regard to public policy and governance systems. MS-ism (multistakeholderism) seeks to avoid this question - and that is what I see in John Curran's response, diverting the issue towards a 'we should participate in any case' discussion. This avoidance is because MS-ism at its heart is based on an inversion of the long held sacrosanct democratic principle that if one has a clear private interest in an outcome of a policy/ governance system, he/she should not be a part of the 'high echelons' of the system. A stakeholder after all is basically one with direct 'narrow' private interest or stake in a policy outcome. There is no attempt at achieving of a higher, no doubt politically constructed, public interest. MSism seeks a patch work of accommodating private interests, with the involved actors at the policy table legitimately pursuing their narrow private interests. Obviously, the most powerful are most able to be present and drive their agenda (there being no 'conflict of interest' related norm) ...... Additionally, MSism, by its convenient ploy of the 'need for consensus', also by its very nature lead to status quoist, conservative politics. Traditional democratic norms and systems were built, for instance, to keep powerful businesses from directly shaping political decisions. That of course is seen as 'the' problem by neolibs. MS-ism as a political system is their clever answer to the problem. In order to co-opt civil society, and overall present a more acceptable image, MSism seeks to take up the vocabulary, and outwardly the concerns, of the long standing demand and struggles for participatory democracy, deepening democracy etc.... Some civil society people have considered it a useful tactical move to go along with this much more powerful global move towards MS-ism (especially when participatory/ deepening democracy etc have not had that much success). My view is that at this junction we need to review - is it that we were able to co-opt the power of the global capital to open up more participatory space, or, whether, we have got co-opted in the big business and neolib plan to supplant democracy. parminder On Sunday 08 April 2012 09:09 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: > > >> My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. >> >> >> > I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. > > On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. > > If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. > > The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. > > One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. > > The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. > > my thoughts for an easter morning. > > avri > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Sun Apr 8 23:26:18 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 03:26:18 +0000 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> ,<4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFD27@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Parminder, You're pushing on levels-of-analysis and levels of governance issues, that I agree are important to keep clear but are only tangentially tied to an ITU Broadband Commission's efforts. So now you've pushed me to defend the ITU Broadband Commission : ( Commissions, like multistakeholder processes generally, bring different groups together and hope something good comes out of the dialogue. Sometimes they work, other times not so much. From one view, if say 10 more national governments (to pick a low target) develop their own national broadband plans in next few years, partially influenced/nudged by the ITU Broadband Commission, then that's a good thing from Michael's ICT4D perspective or from (presumably) the perspectives of the citizens in nations where more advanced communication services become available sooner than might otherwise have been the case. With plans developed by governments hopefully elected democratically. So, I'm not agreeing that the commission itself is unable to do anything worthwhile just because Carlos Slim doesn't practice what I preach about the social welfare benefits of multiple versus monopoly providers. (And I'll pretend not to notice Jean-Louis's allegations of corruption, when as far as I know Carlos got his monopoly the old fashioned way, he bought it. ; ) So yeah Avri and John, if people want to submit docs to the Broadband commission by all means go right ahead. And note there are some high and mighty cs folks at the table already who may be natural allies, even if they don;t hang on the IGC list. Honestly though, I don't see the commission coming up with much of anything new beyond some new staff or working group reports, which I expect will be quite good and handy reference material on the state of broadband circa 2012. But I don;t imagine them being influenced or shaped much by grassroots CS, even if one were to try, whether through (domestic) democratic means or though (transnational) ms means. ITU has been a pay to play organization for 150 years, for governments and businesses. The few CS groups able to afford to - play the game there - are tolerated and even welcomed for their input at times, but certainly not on an equal footing. Since IGC is not in that club, we are not really in this game, which has been going on since 2010 already so at best we are very late to a table we weren't invited to dine at. I will say now that I look more closely at what the Commission has done so far and who is playing this game, that there are some very worthwhile folks engaged, eg Mohammed Yunus of Bangladesh of Grameen Bank/Grameen Phone/microcredit/Nobel Peace Prize fame, joined now also by my old pal Vanu Bose of Vanu Inc. It's just I don;t see where they are asking for or looking for IGC's help and input, and don;t see a strategic opening to make the ITU Broadband Commission or any of its working groups a priority for IGC. IGF on other hand, has more than enough problems and needs help...right? Or Parminder, do we need to solve the problem of the deficit of democracy for global/multinational processes first? Since I fear that could be a very long wait. Lee ________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of parminder [parminder at itforchange.net] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:18 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission The original issue in this discussion was whether conflict of interest is an important principle to ensure and fight for with regard to public policy and governance systems. MS-ism (multistakeholderism) seeks to avoid this question - and that is what I see in John Curran's response, diverting the issue towards a 'we should participate in any case' discussion. This avoidance is because MS-ism at its heart is based on an inversion of the long held sacrosanct democratic principle that if one has a clear private interest in an outcome of a policy/ governance system, he/she should not be a part of the 'high echelons' of the system. A stakeholder after all is basically one with direct 'narrow' private interest or stake in a policy outcome. There is no attempt at achieving of a higher, no doubt politically constructed, public interest. MSism seeks a patch work of accommodating private interests, with the involved actors at the policy table legitimately pursuing their narrow private interests. Obviously, the most powerful are most able to be present and drive their agenda (there being no 'conflict of interest' related norm) ...... Additionally, MSism, by its convenient ploy of the 'need for consensus', also by its very nature lead to status quoist, conservative politics. Traditional democratic norms and systems were built, for instance, to keep powerful businesses from directly shaping political decisions. That of course is seen as 'the' problem by neolibs. MS-ism as a political system is their clever answer to the problem. In order to co-opt civil society, and overall present a more acceptable image, MSism seeks to take up the vocabulary, and outwardly the concerns, of the long standing demand and struggles for participatory democracy, deepening democracy etc.... Some civil society people have considered it a useful tactical move to go along with this much more powerful global move towards MS-ism (especially when participatory/ deepening democracy etc have not had that much success). My view is that at this junction we need to review - is it that we were able to co-opt the power of the global capital to open up more participatory space, or, whether, we have got co-opted in the big business and neolib plan to supplant democracy. parminder On Sunday 08 April 2012 09:09 PM, Avri Doria wrote: On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. my thoughts for an easter morning. avri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Sun Apr 8 23:46:00 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 09:16:00 +0530 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <4F825B78.5090707@itforchange.net> On Monday 09 April 2012 07:48 AM, parminder wrote: > > The original issue in this discussion was whether conflict of interest > is an important principle to ensure and fight for with regard to > public policy and governance systems. MS-ism (multistakeholderism) > seeks to avoid this question - and that is what I see in John Curran's > response, diverting the issue towards a 'we should participate in any > case' discussion. Not to look like myself avoiding the participation question; It is a normal neolib response to claims by the marginalised regarding participation, distribution etc to put the 'responsibility' on the marginalised themselves, like the oft used concept of 'individual responsibility'. (See the health cover debates in the US for instance.) So the theory and its practical manifestations are quite coherent :). It is not that those in the civil society raising questions of propriety in our governance/ policy systems have necessarily been lazily waffling around and not doing what they need to. One would need to examine the conditions and resources of the progressive civil society that seeks to stand up against the most powerful before sanctimoniously telling them to work better and harder and not be a cry baby. parminder > This avoidance is because MS-ism at its heart is based on an inversion > of the long held sacrosanct democratic principle that if one has a > clear private interest in an outcome of a policy/ governance system, > he/she should not be a part of the 'high echelons' of the system. A > stakeholder after all is basically one with direct 'narrow' private > interest or stake in a policy outcome. There is no attempt at > achieving of a higher, no doubt politically constructed, public > interest. MSism seeks a patch work of accommodating private interests, > with the involved actors at the policy table legitimately pursuing > their narrow private interests. Obviously, the most powerful are most > able to be present and drive their agenda (there being no 'conflict of > interest' related norm) ...... Additionally, MSism, by its convenient > ploy of the 'need for consensus', also by its very nature lead to > status quoist, conservative politics. > > Traditional democratic norms and systems were built, for instance, to > keep powerful businesses from directly shaping political decisions. > That of course is seen as 'the' problem by neolibs. MS-ism as a > political system is their clever answer to the problem. In order to > co-opt civil society, and overall present a more acceptable image, > MSism seeks to take up the vocabulary, and outwardly the concerns, of > the long standing demand and struggles for participatory democracy, > deepening democracy etc.... Some civil society people have considered > it a useful tactical move to go along with this much more powerful > global move towards MS-ism (especially when participatory/ deepening > democracy etc have not had that much success). > > My view is that at this junction we need to review - is it that we > were able to co-opt the power of the global capital to open up more > participatory space, or, whether, we have got co-opted in the big > business and neolib plan to supplant democracy. > > parminder > > On Sunday 08 April 2012 09:09 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >> On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: >> >> >>> My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. >>> >>> >>> >> I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. >> >> On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. >> >> If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. >> >> The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. >> >> One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. >> >> The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. >> >> my thoughts for an easter morning. >> >> avri >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Mon Apr 9 00:39:21 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:09:21 +0530 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFD27@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <33DFDD1608F14200B61C9D6A503C3045@UserVAIO>,<416CE15D-38A2-4ED3-A6F3-B07E3802FCF2@istaff.org> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFB6E@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> ,<4F8246F2.2070204@itforchange.net> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFD27@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <4F8267F9.4060708@itforchange.net> Hi Lee On Monday 09 April 2012 08:56 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > Parminder, > > You're pushing on levels-of-analysis and levels of governance issues, > that I agree are important to keep clear but are only tangentially > tied to an ITU Broadband Commission's efforts. Cant agree to this. I will again take the example of Mubarak's authoritarian regime and the fundamentalists in Egypt. Basic principles remain important, whether or not a governance/ policy system is democratic, multistakeholder etc, independent of the efforts and outcomes of such a system. I am surprised to hear you say that such issues of principles are 'only tangentially tied' to any particular governance/ policy system being spoken of. > So now you've pushed me to defend the ITU Broadband Commission : ( And you remind me of the promise I made to John Curran that I will later come to the issue of actual outcomes of the Broadband Commission. :) During WSIS, civil society from the Sought fought, with help from developing countries, for getting enough references in the outcome documents about public investments apart from promoting market friendly policies in the telecom sector. The years since the WSIS have proved that this was a right thing to do; public investment is much needed to ensure full inclusion. It has been realised that it is even more important in the fixed line, broadband sector. In the last few years countries ranging from Australia, Sweden (Stockholm) and the US (almost) to South Africa, Brazil and India have set up public sector led broadband initiatives. In the circumstances, one would expect that a commission on broadband giving its report in 2010-11 would provide good prominence to the need for public sector funds and initiatives for an inclusive broadband infrastructure. Now, pl pick up the Broadband Commission report and read it. It is a rather one sided celebration of market friendly policies with no significant mention of public funds and public sector initiatives. Is this not misleading? Would one not suspect that the chairmanship and other membership of the Commission (with strong conflict of interest) had something to do with this... As I read the report I see many parts that, I remember from the WSIS rounds of negotiations, would not have passed muster of the assembled group at the WSIS. So, do you see a problem here, with the BB Commission kind of MSism.... And as I said, experience since the WSIS has further proved the need of the public sector playing an important role in setting up broadband infrastructure. You say, wont it be useful if 10 countries picked up the Report and developed their national broadband plans, 'because of it'. I am not sure that today it needs a commission to tell any country about the need for a broadband plan. It may be more relevant to think about the danger that because of this Report 10 or more countries take it that it is the received wisdom today that the public sector should keep away from any active role in developing national broadband infrastructure, when precisely the opposite is a common policy perspective and trend today. > > SNIP > > Or Parminder, do we need to solve the problem of the deficit of > democracy for global/multinational processes first? Since I fear that > could be a very long wait. And with that expedient wipe under the carpet the problem of a severe global democratic deficit. No, I cant agree. We need to pursue pragmatic and principled approaches in tandem, not one at the expense of the other. There is a saying in Hindi; if you plant the seeds of /Kikar/ (a thorny worthless tree) you wont get a /neem/ tree (one with legendary medicinal value). It kind of nicely sums it up. Parminder > > Lee > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of parminder > [parminder at itforchange.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:18 PM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org > *Subject:* Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > > The original issue in this discussion was whether conflict of interest > is an important principle to ensure and fight for with regard to > public policy and governance systems. MS-ism (multistakeholderism) > seeks to avoid this question - and that is what I see in John Curran's > response, diverting the issue towards a 'we should participate in any > case' discussion. This avoidance is because MS-ism at its heart is > based on an inversion of the long held sacrosanct democratic principle > that if one has a clear private interest in an outcome of a policy/ > governance system, he/she should not be a part of the 'high echelons' > of the system. A stakeholder after all is basically one with direct > 'narrow' private interest or stake in a policy outcome. There is no > attempt at achieving of a higher, no doubt politically constructed, > public interest. MSism seeks a patch work of accommodating private > interests, with the involved actors at the policy table legitimately > pursuing their narrow private interests. Obviously, the most powerful > are most able to be present and drive their agenda (there being no > 'conflict of interest' related norm) ...... Additionally, MSism, by > its convenient ploy of the 'need for consensus', also by its very > nature lead to status quoist, conservative politics. > > Traditional democratic norms and systems were built, for instance, to > keep powerful businesses from directly shaping political decisions. > That of course is seen as 'the' problem by neolibs. MS-ism as a > political system is their clever answer to the problem. In order to > co-opt civil society, and overall present a more acceptable image, > MSism seeks to take up the vocabulary, and outwardly the concerns, of > the long standing demand and struggles for participatory democracy, > deepening democracy etc.... Some civil society people have considered > it a useful tactical move to go along with this much more powerful > global move towards MS-ism (especially when participatory/ deepening > democracy etc have not had that much success). > > My view is that at this junction we need to review - is it that we > were able to co-opt the power of the global capital to open up more > participatory space, or, whether, we have got co-opted in the big > business and neolib plan to supplant democracy. > > parminder > > On Sunday 08 April 2012 09:09 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >> On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: >> >> >>> My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. >>> >>> >>> >> I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. >> >> On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. >> >> If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. >> >> The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. >> >> One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. >> >> The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. >> >> my thoughts for an easter morning. >> >> avri >> >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 05:58:46 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 06:58:46 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFD27@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> FWIW, Lee I should point out that I'm quite critical of the conventional ICT4D approach(es) for precisely the same reasons as I'm critical of the BBC... while perhaps having an effect in realizing some degree of "development" overall they do little if anything to actually achieve a greater degree of social and economic equality within a society and in many if not most instances actually have the effect of increasing inequalities in developing countries i.e. accelerating the advantages of those who already possess certain social and economic advantages while having some sort of "a raise all the boats" effect on the rest. M http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/some-comments-on-ict4development-an d-internet-governance/ I should add here that at the time of the World Summit on the Iformation society Tunis and immediately afterwards, I argued quite extensively and publicly for "development" (ICT4D) issues to NOT be included in the agenda for discussion of the IGF while a number of actors seemed to be suggesting that this in fact should be case. My reasoning at the time was that the IGF, being a forum concerned largely (and dare I say narrowly) with the more "technical" areas where a global discussion on Internet Governance might prove useful, was the wrong place with the wrong set of participants to discuss ICT4D issues. It was my opinion at the time that discussion at the IGF would tend to reduce ICT4D/development down to technical/access matters. This in turn would divert the discussion away from the broader issues of governance in support of applications and effective uses which I consider to be the primary concern when viewed from the perspective of grassroots users particularly in "development" contexts. http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/the-idrc-and-%E2%80%9Copen-developm ent%E2%80%9D-ict4d-by-and-for-the-new-middle-class/ Similarly with "Open Development" ("Open ICT4D" is the term in fact used here (by the IDRC)); clearly the opportunity to participate in development planning, information sharing, operational implementation will be of interest to and benefit for those already possessing the skills, background and time required to recognize this opportunity and to participate in these processes. In most Developing Countries this would include the quite rapidly developing cohort of technologically savvy recent graduates, newly employed tech workers, many elements in the Diaspora community and so on-the "New Middle Class". Getting these people involved in development related activities is, one assumes, overall a good thing. However, putting one's emphasis and resources behind these initiatives without putting commensurate resources to support participation by those most needful of benefiting from such development activities-the rural and urban poor, the landless, the illiterate, women outside the paid workforce, the physically disabled and so on is simply to further empower those already being empowered and to assist them in further distancing themselves from the most needful. That is, "Open (ICT4)Development" as through for example simply having newly available "access" to information or the opportunity to "participate" does little or nothing for those without the means to make effective and organized use of those opportunities i.e. those who lack the required skills or the means to hire the skills or more profoundly, without the background and training to recognize the value that such opportunities and access might provide to them. The challenge for (ICT4) development is ... is one of ensuring that those who are the "object" of development are also its subjects. -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Lee W McKnight Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 12:26 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; parminder Subject: RE: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission Parminder, You're pushing on levels-of-analysis and levels of governance issues, that I agree are important to keep clear but are only tangentially tied to an ITU Broadband Commission's efforts. So now you've pushed me to defend the ITU Broadband Commission : ( Commissions, like multistakeholder processes generally, bring different groups together and hope something good comes out of the dialogue. Sometimes they work, other times not so much. From one view, if say 10 more national governments (to pick a low target) develop their own national broadband plans in next few years, partially influenced/nudged by the ITU Broadband Commission, then that's a good thing from Michael's ICT4D perspective or from (presumably) the perspectives of the citizens in nations where more advanced communication services become available sooner than might otherwise have been the case. With plans developed by governments hopefully elected democratically. So, I'm not agreeing that the commission itself is unable to do anything worthwhile just because Carlos Slim doesn't practice what I preach about the social welfare benefits of multiple versus monopoly providers. (And I'll pretend not to notice Jean-Louis's allegations of corruption, when as far as I know Carlos got his monopoly the old fashioned way, he bought it. ; ) So yeah Avri and John, if people want to submit docs to the Broadband commission by all means go right ahead. And note there are some high and mighty cs folks at the table already who may be natural allies, even if they don;t hang on the IGC list. Honestly though, I don't see the commission coming up with much of anything new beyond some new staff or working group reports, which I expect will be quite good and handy reference material on the state of broadband circa 2012. But I don;t imagine them being influenced or shaped much by grassroots CS, even if one were to try, whether through (domestic) democratic means or though (transnational) ms means. ITU has been a pay to play organization for 150 years, for governments and businesses. The few CS groups able to afford to - play the game there - are tolerated and even welcomed for their input at times, but certainly not on an equal footing. Since IGC is not in that club, we are not really in this game, which has been going on since 2010 already so at best we are very late to a table we weren't invited to dine at. I will say now that I look more closely at what the Commission has done so far and who is playing this game, that there are some very worthwhile folks engaged, eg Mohammed Yunus of Bangladesh of Grameen Bank/Grameen Phone/microcredit/Nobel Peace Prize fame, joined now also by my old pal Vanu Bose of Vanu Inc. It's just I don;t see where they are asking for or looking for IGC's help and input, and don;t see a strategic opening to make the ITU Broadband Commission or any of its working groups a priority for IGC. IGF on other hand, has more than enough problems and needs help...right? Or Parminder, do we need to solve the problem of the deficit of democracy for global/multinational processes first? Since I fear that could be a very long wait. Lee _____ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of parminder [parminder at itforchange.net] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 10:18 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission The original issue in this discussion was whether conflict of interest is an important principle to ensure and fight for with regard to public policy and governance systems. MS-ism (multistakeholderism) seeks to avoid this question - and that is what I see in John Curran's response, diverting the issue towards a 'we should participate in any case' discussion. This avoidance is because MS-ism at its heart is based on an inversion of the long held sacrosanct democratic principle that if one has a clear private interest in an outcome of a policy/ governance system, he/she should not be a part of the 'high echelons' of the system. A stakeholder after all is basically one with direct 'narrow' private interest or stake in a policy outcome. There is no attempt at achieving of a higher, no doubt politically constructed, public interest. MSism seeks a patch work of accommodating private interests, with the involved actors at the policy table legitimately pursuing their narrow private interests. Obviously, the most powerful are most able to be present and drive their agenda (there being no 'conflict of interest' related norm) ...... Additionally, MSism, by its convenient ploy of the 'need for consensus', also by its very nature lead to status quoist, conservative politics. Traditional democratic norms and systems were built, for instance, to keep powerful businesses from directly shaping political decisions. That of course is seen as 'the' problem by neolibs. MS-ism as a political system is their clever answer to the problem. In order to co-opt civil society, and overall present a more acceptable image, MSism seeks to take up the vocabulary, and outwardly the concerns, of the long standing demand and struggles for participatory democracy, deepening democracy etc.... Some civil society people have considered it a useful tactical move to go along with this much more powerful global move towards MS-ism (especially when participatory/ deepening democracy etc have not had that much success). My view is that at this junction we need to review - is it that we were able to co-opt the power of the global capital to open up more participatory space, or, whether, we have got co-opted in the big business and neolib plan to supplant democracy. parminder On Sunday 08 April 2012 09:09 PM, Avri Doria wrote: On 7 Apr 2012, at 16:22, Lee W McKnight wrote: My 2 cents is the general principles/objectives being pushed by the ITU's Broadband Commission are not bad, but the fact of the matter is it more a classic high-level talkathon opportunity than anything else. Submitting docs to them is likely not worth the time it would as Michael suggests. And for CS, certainly not worth the bother of trying to shape/steer at this late date when the dye is cast. I am not sure I understand why submitting existing docs, by someone who knew what to submit, was not worth the bother. On the topic of participating or not. I think that is the wrong question. If the topic is important and the venue relevant, CS should participate. The fact of whether we are included at the table or not, would seem to dictate tactics as opposed to participation. There are different ways by which CS makes it views heard, when it has a seat at the table or when it is forced to stand outside the door making itself heard. And if CS is being excluded from this table, and we thinking there is any chance they are going to do something harmful to the public good, then we should be screaming our heads off outside the door and should gear up a campaign to do so. One of the disadvantages of the multistakeholder model (i bet some of you thought i never saw a disadvantage to the model) is that when we are not included we just sort of whinge and sputter. We have lost some of the anger that made CS a force at WSIS and this is partly because we have changed over all of our methods to Multistakeholder reasonableness. And personally I think one of the reasons we see a pull back in the support of the multistakeholder model by the other stakeholders is that we have become docile, or even invisible, when excluded. The only time many of the others will allow CS at the table is when they think that excluding CS will be more annoying than having us at the table is. To expect governments or business to it because it is the right thing, is sort of wishful thinking. governments do what make retention of power easiest and business do what maximizes profit. So CS has to be prepared to be disruptive of easy power and profits if it wants to be included in the discussions. And sometimes it just has to flex its disruptive muscles just to remind the powers that be that it is ready to do so. my thoughts for an easter morning. avri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Apr 9 07:31:40 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:31:40 +0100 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> References: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0AFD27@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> Message-ID: In message <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93 at UserVAIO>, at 06:58:46 on Mon, 9 Apr 2012, michael gurstein writes >FWIW, Lee I should point out that I'm quite critical of the >conventional ICT4D approach(es) for precisely the same reasons as I'm >critical of the BBC... while perhaps having an effect in realizing some >degree of "development" overall they do little if anything to actually >achieve a greater degree of social and economic equality within a >society and in many if not most instances actually have the effect of >increasing inequalities in developing countries i.e. accelerating the >advantages of those who already possess certain social and economic >advantages while having some sort of "a raise all the boats" effect on the rest It's a fact of life that many organisations spend a lot of their effort in situations best described as: "Something must be done - this is something - we must do it". Conversely, it can be hard to justify sitting around doing nothing, just because the perfect plan has yet to emerge. Indeed, students are taught that one of the reasons the USA prospers at the expense of Europe is because they are more willing to "have a go" and produce an inevitably flawed v1 product, ahead of a slightly better v2 and a vaguely acceptable v3 (which is the first one any sensible person buys). Compared to the Europeans who by that stage are still trying to perfect the v1, and are running out of money because they haven't sold a single one. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Mon Apr 9 08:18:53 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:18:53 -0300 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0627320DE1884CA483C73C20EBB18FF2@UserVAIO> Hi Roland, I don't think the issue is that doing something is better than doing nothing but rather about doing the the right thing (or the better thing) from the beginning and not having to undo or correct mistakes down the road. In the development sphere pretty anyone who has any experience on the ground will tell you more or less the same thing--unless you engage/enable the folks at the grassroots not a whole lot of "development" (for them) will occur. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Roland Perry Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:32 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In message <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93 at UserVAIO>, at 06:58:46 on Mon, 9 Apr 2012, michael gurstein writes >FWIW, Lee I should point out that I'm quite critical of the >conventional ICT4D approach(es) for precisely the same reasons as I'm >critical of the BBC... while perhaps having an effect in realizing some >degree of "development" overall they do little if anything to actually >achieve a greater degree of social and economic equality within a >society and in many if not most instances actually have the effect of >increasing inequalities in developing countries i.e. accelerating the >advantages of those who already possess certain social and economic >advantages while having some sort of "a raise all the boats" effect on the rest It's a fact of life that many organisations spend a lot of their effort in situations best described as: "Something must be done - this is something - we must do it". Conversely, it can be hard to justify sitting around doing nothing, just because the perfect plan has yet to emerge. Indeed, students are taught that one of the reasons the USA prospers at the expense of Europe is because they are more willing to "have a go" and produce an inevitably flawed v1 product, ahead of a slightly better v2 and a vaguely acceptable v3 (which is the first one any sensible person buys). Compared to the Europeans who by that stage are still trying to perfect the v1, and are running out of money because they haven't sold a single one. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Apr 9 08:26:08 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:26:08 +0100 Subject: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission In-Reply-To: <0627320DE1884CA483C73C20EBB18FF2@UserVAIO> References: <0627320DE1884CA483C73C20EBB18FF2@UserVAIO> Message-ID: In message <0627320DE1884CA483C73C20EBB18FF2 at UserVAIO>, at 09:18:53 on Mon, 9 Apr 2012, michael gurstein writes >Hi Roland, > >I don't think the issue is that doing something is better than doing nothing >but rather about doing the the right thing (or the better thing) from the >beginning and not having to undo or correct mistakes down the road. That sounds like the "European scenario" in my commentary. >In the development sphere pretty anyone who has any experience on the ground >will tell you more or less the same thing--unless you engage/enable the >folks at the grassroots not a whole lot of "development" (for them) will >occur. The "USA scenario" is to engage the grassroots by exposing them to the flawed v1 and by implication inviting them to complain about it. (And perhaps not by co-incidence, USA-ians are more comfortable complaining than Europeans). >-----Original Message----- >From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >[mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Roland Perry >Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:32 AM >To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >Subject: Re: [governance] ITU Broadband Commission > > >In message <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93 at UserVAIO>, at 06:58:46 on >Mon, 9 Apr 2012, michael gurstein writes >>FWIW, Lee I should point out that I'm quite critical of the >>conventional ICT4D approach(es) for precisely the same reasons as I'm >>critical of the BBC... while perhaps having an effect in realizing some >>degree of "development" overall they do little if anything to actually >>achieve a greater degree of social and economic equality within a >>society and in many if not most instances actually have the effect of >>increasing inequalities in developing countries i.e. accelerating the >>advantages of those who already possess certain social and economic >>advantages while having some sort of "a raise all the boats" effect on the >rest > >It's a fact of life that many organisations spend a lot of their effort >in situations best described as: "Something must be done - this is >something - we must do it". > >Conversely, it can be hard to justify sitting around doing nothing, just >because the perfect plan has yet to emerge. > >Indeed, students are taught that one of the reasons the USA prospers at >the expense of Europe is because they are more willing to "have a go" >and produce an inevitably flawed v1 product, ahead of a slightly better >v2 and a vaguely acceptable v3 (which is the first one any sensible >person buys). Compared to the Europeans who by that stage are still >trying to perfect the v1, and are running out of money because they >haven't sold a single one. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 14:34:52 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:34:52 -0300 Subject: [governance] FW: [IP] Facebook Asserts Trademark on Word 'Book' in New User Agreement Message-ID: <9C399859D83C4B4BB062900C4FD51BB4@UserVAIO> Another "too big to be allowed (to succeed)... " issue? M ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Forno Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012 Subject: Facebook Asserts Trademark on Word 'Book' in New User Agreement To: Infowarrior List , Dave Farber Just on principle alone, this is yet another reason why I don't play in Zuckerworld. -rick Facebook Asserts Trademark on Word 'Book' in New User Agreement By Jon Brodkin, Ars Technica March 23, 2012 | 4:09 pm | http://m.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/facebook-book-trademark/ Facebook is trying to expand its trademark rights over the word "book" by adding the claim to a newly revised version of its "Statement of Rights and Responsibilities," the agreement all users implicitly consent to by using or accessing Facebook. ( Big snip ) http://m.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/facebook-book-trademark/ Sent from my mobile. Please pardon typos and brevity. 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(Please note that workshops are expected to > adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and > gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues > under discussion.) > > Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement > [and others TBD] > > Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. > Avri Doria > > Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and > their affiliation to various stakeholder groups. > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > Others [TBD] --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *                               www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gpaque at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 06:58:55 2012 From: gpaque at gmail.com (Ginger Paque) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:28:55 -0430 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Message-ID: It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise description' of at least 200 words. I am very interested in this discussion! Cheers, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu Diplo Foundation Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme www.diplomacy.edu/ig *The latest from Diplo....*From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy*, *Diplomacy of Small States*, and *E-diplomacy*. Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses** On 11 April 2012 23:56, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Any comments or suggestions, pro or con? > > thanks, > > izumi > > > 2012/4/6 Izumi AIZU : > > For your convenience, I have pulled the content of the Etherpad > > Workshop proposal here. You can make comments here, or write on the > > Etherpad. > > > > Thanks, > > > > izumi > > > > > > Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. > > Quo Vadis IGF – or Evolution of IGF > > > > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed > workshop. > > > > IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated > > by the UN Secretary General. > > > > This workshop will examine the discussions and the outcome of the CSTD > > Working Group on IGF Improvement and share different views by > > different actors on the IGF improvements and their implementations. > > > > Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall > under? > > Taking stock and Way Forward > > > > Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? > > To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve > > most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on > > guiding principles? > > > > Q1: How are the rules for the Internet set? > > Q2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current > > plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? > > Q3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through > > discussions successive IGFs. > > > > Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF > > workshop before? > > YES > > > > Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): > > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=55 > > > > Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panelists you > > are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to > > adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and > > gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues > > under discussion.) > > > > Peter Major, Chair, CSTD Working Group on IGF Improvement > > [and others TBD] > > > > Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. > > Avri Doria > > > > Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and > > their affiliation to various stakeholder groups. > > > > Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) > > Others [TBD] > > > > -- > >> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > * * * * * > www.anr.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are interested in participating in the organizing work or any other Information, please contact me or Prof. Ang Peng Hwa, cced here. To contact the local organizer, the secretariat, Japan Internet Asociation, JAIPA, please contact Mr. Toshiaki Tateishi, also cced here. Izumi -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Sat Apr 14 13:49:39 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:49:39 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Updates ... ? In-Reply-To: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> References: <4F7C6BFE.7010005@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F89B8B3.8050309@eff.org> Dear all, Finally, I can confirm I will be attending the next May meetings since I will be in Geneva/Europe for six weeks. As many of you already know, I decided not to run again for this year MAG due to some relocation of work priorities within inside my organization. But, I'm especially interested to attend this May meeting as an opportunity to share strategies and ideas with other civil society Members on the list on the way forward. Hope to see you there, All the best, Katitza On 4/4/12 11:42 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > This is quite important. Because if this is the case, those of us who > are currently in the MAG would need to attend that meeting. I'm booked > in May but free the days of the MAG meeting so I need to know ASAP > the current status. > > On 4/4/12 8:39 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: >> - MAG renewal : The sooner we know the better as it will allow for >> the new incoming members to be able to book their travel, get >> briefed by outgoing members, and prepare for the nuanced issues that >> will arise in the May consultations in Geneva. > > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sun Apr 15 10:41:18 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 10:41:18 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF12-Baku / Call for Workshop Proposals / April 20 Deadline (5 days and counting) Message-ID: <5513DD89-CF2D-4C5F-953F-3ABDCB6276C1@privaterra.org> A reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is the 20April 2012 - some 5 days from now. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/936-main-themes-questions The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media Low cost mobile access to the Internet Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television Legislative issues Creativity and human rights Innovation on the Internet The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television User generated content: reliability and responsibility Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? Introduction of new gTLDs, IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? Questions for Feeder Workshops: What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age? “Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Mon Apr 16 06:54:36 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:54:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] Google References: <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCB7E@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> FYI http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/15/web-freedom-threat-google-brin w -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de Mon Apr 16 06:57:55 2012 From: wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Kleinw=E4chter=2C_Wolfgang=22?=) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:57:55 +0200 Subject: [governance] Pirates References: <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCB7E@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCB7F@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> FYI http://www.pp-international.net/ w -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Mon Apr 16 08:51:16 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:51:16 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question 2. Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days left. -------------- Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated by the UN Secretary General. To fill this mandate, CSTD Working Group to the Improvement of the IGF was established in 2010 and tasked to publish its report by March 2011. The WG could not finish its work, however, and one-year extension was given. With the new Chair and three additional meetings, the WG came up with the final report in March 2012. This report will be presented to the CSTD Session in May and further discussions are scheduled to take place at UN ECOSOC and General Assembly this year. This workshop will examine the substance of the CSTD WG Report and share different views by different actors on the IGF improvements and their implementations. It will discuss the following major issues: Shaping the Outcome of IGF Meetings, Working Modalities, Funding among others. Though the basic nature of IGF as a non-binding forum has not been challenged, the WG Report proposes to enhance the impact of the IGF, with outcome documentation that includes messages that map out converging and diverging opinions on given questions clearly. On Funding, the WG could not reach full consensus: with Civil Society proposing more robust funding including the use of UN regular budget, while other stakeholders supported to stay with the current voluntary funding. While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet, how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central focus of this workshop. ------------------- 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque : > It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise > description' of at least 200 words. > I am very interested in this discussion! > Cheers, Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > > VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu > Diplo Foundation > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme > www.diplomacy.edu/ig > The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May > 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. > Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 03:13:07 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:13:07 +0300 Subject: [governance] Google In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCB7E@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <33BAC3EB6BA04617ABA4FC2899427A93@UserVAIO> <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCB7E@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: <4F8D1803.9040200@gmail.com> Google fined $25 000 for Street View data collection *CHARLES ARTHUR * LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM - Apr 17 2012 07:50 Google has been fined $25 000 for impeding a US investigation into its collection of wireless network data for its Street View project, which allows users to see street level images when they map a location. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) imposed the fine late on Friday, saying Google had collected personal information without permission and had then deliberately not cooperated with the FCC's investigation. The company collected the data between 2007 and 2010, when a car driving around various locations in the US and, later, Europe, took photos of locations from public places -- but also collected information from unprotected wifi networks, including the location, name and in some cases the content -- including emails. The FCC's investigation was left unresolved, according to the /New York Times/, because one key participant -- the Google engineer in charge of the project -- cited Fifth Amendment rights and declined to talk to it. The US Constitution's Fifth Amendment protects the right to silence of someone accused by the government of a crime. "Google refused to identify any employees or produce any emails. The company could not supply compliant declarations without identifying employees it preferred not to identify," said an FCC order dated April 13. "Misconduct of this nature threatens to compromise the commission's ability to effectively investigate possible violations of the Communications Act and the commission's rules." *Error* Google said at the time that the collection of data from the networks was an error and suggested it was down to an error by those in charge of the information collection. But according to the /New York Times/, the engineer says that others further up at Google must have known of what was happening. The discovery of the data collection caused a storm when it was revealed in 2010. European data protection agencies reacted in different ways, with the Irish and UK commissioners suggesting Google should destroy the data without penalty, while in Germany they said they would need to examine it to determine whether any crime had been committed. In the US, the FCC tried to make a similar determination, as did the consumer-focused Federal Trade Commission. The FTC closed its inquiry, while the FCC considered whether there had been a breach of the US Communications Act's clauses on wiretapping. In the end it determined that it had not, because there was no precedent for applying it to wifi communications. CONTINUES BELOW Google said in a statement that it had turned over information to the agency and challenged the finding that it was uncooperative. "As the FCC notes in their report, we provided all the materials the regulators felt they needed to conclude their investigation and we were not found to have violated any laws," the company said in a statement. "We disagree with the FCC's characterisation of our cooperation in their investigation and will be filing a response." Between May 2007 and May 2010, Google collected data from wifi networks throughout the US and across the world as part of its Street View project, which gives users of Google Map and Google Earth the ability to view street-level images of structures and land adjacent to roads and highways. But Google also collected passwords, internet usage history and other sensitive personal data that was not needed for its location database project, the FCC said. Google publicly acknowledged in May 2010 that it had collected the so-called "payload data". -- © Guardian News and Media 2012 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Would it be fair to say the best practices were not followed to design the system which was built to keep the information secure, confidential and protected. This application supported the collection of 850+ applications and over $150m funds.   ICANN has been informed about this the glitch on 19th but ICANN did not taken it seriously, decision making took about 23 days. ICANN took its TAS Application offline on 12th April which was the last date when it has to be closed automatically. ICANN has its plan to reopen this TAS system to the public that mean Expansion the 90days window by extension of closing date.  "We have learned of a possible glitch in the TLD application system software that has allowed a limited number of users to view some other users' file names and user names in certain scenarios."   Technically it was necessary to use the secure method and variables should not be displayed in the URL. According to the policy the information of the applicants will not be disclosed however, the applicant name and the applied for string has to publically announced at a later stage. Many of them may have lost their secrecy& confidentiality. It is next to impossible to discover that who is the beneficiary and who is the looser? However, it will raise the conflicts and bidding values. In short ICANN has lost its trust for maintaining the confidentiality, Integrity and Information Security. ICANN has to re-define its policy or call public comments that how to deal with this scenario.   Thanks   Imran Ahmed Shah . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The SOW describes the work in terms of the required results and reduces the inherent instructions regarding "how" to accomplish the work." FYI, /John -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Tue Apr 17 07:58:11 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] ICANNLeaks - Losing Trust to Maintain the Secrecy In-Reply-To: <1334662157.31747.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1334662157.31747.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1334663891.54421.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> According to the latest information posted by ICANN, the Application System will not open tomorrow.  http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/announcements-and-media/announcement-16apr12-en   “We will provide an update on the timing of the reopening no later than Friday, 20 April at 23.59 UTC.”, Akram Atallah, COO >________________________________ > From: Imran Ahmed Shah >To: "governance at lists.igcaucus.org" >Cc: "Imran @IGFPak.org" >Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012, 16:29 >Subject: [governance] ICANNLeaks - Loosing Trust to Maintain the Secrecy > > >Dear All, >Security, Stability and Resiliency of the Internet layers was the prime responsibility of the ICANN, but the organization couldn't protect/ secure its latest online application submission system of new gTLDs (TAS). Would it be fair to say the best practices were not followed to design the system which was built to keep the information secure, confidential and protected. This application supported the collection of 850+ applications and over $150m funds. >  >ICANN has been informed about this the glitch on 19th but ICANN did not taken it seriously, decision making took about 23 days. >ICANN took its TAS Application offline on 12th April which was the last date when it has to be closed automatically. ICANN has its plan to reopen this TAS system to the public that mean Expansion the 90days window by extension of closing date. > "We have learned of a possible glitch in the TLD application system software that has allowed a limited number of users to view some other users' file names and user names in certain scenarios." >  >Technically it was necessary to use the secure method and variables should not be displayed in the URL. According to the policy the information of the applicants will not be disclosed however, the applicant name and the applied for string has to publically announced at a later stage. Many of them may have lost their secrecy& confidentiality. It is next to impossible to discover that who is the beneficiary and who is the looser? However, it will raise the conflicts and bidding values. >In short ICANN has lost its trust for maintaining the confidentiality, Integrity and Information Security. ICANN has to re-define its policy or call public comments that how to deal with this scenario. >  >Thanks >  >Imran Ahmed Shah >. >  >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: >    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >    http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Tue Apr 17 13:00:57 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 22:30:57 +0530 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> Message-ID: <4F8DA1C9.6000604@itforchange.net> Dear Izumi, Thanks for this. Just two comments, as below. On Monday 16 April 2012 06:21 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question 2. > Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days left. > > -------------- > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. > > IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated > by the UN Secretary General. A small correction. The improvements were mandated by the UN GA and not the SG. > > While some governments are calling for tighter control of the > Internet, This is a loaded and one-sided statement. I am not saying that you meant it that way, but it does get used as a code phrase for a general accusation against developing countires which is either not well-informed and balanced or is deliberately mis-leading. Either remove it, or add the following to balance it (additions marked in in bold)... While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet,*others are seeking to manage it in partisan interests through big business based or plurilateral mechanisms,*..... Thanks, parminder > how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the > central focus of this workshop. > > ------------------- > > 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque: > >> It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise >> description' of at least 200 words. >> I am very interested in this discussion! >> Cheers, Ginger >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> >> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >> Diplo Foundation >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >> The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >> exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >> 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. >> Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But Parminder has a point. Interesting series of articles in the Guardian at the moment < http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/series/battle-for-the-internet> Adam On Wednesday, April 18, 2012, parminder wrote: > ** > Dear Izumi, > > Thanks for this. Just two comments, as below. > > On Monday 16 April 2012 06:21 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > > Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question 2. > Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days left. > > -------------- > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. > > IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated > by the UN Secretary General. > > > A small correction. The improvements were mandated by the UN GA and not > the SG. > > > While some governments are calling for tighter control of the > Internet, > > > This is a loaded and one-sided statement. I am not saying that you meant > it that way, but it does get used as a code phrase for a general accusation > against developing countires which is either not well-informed and balanced > or is deliberately mis-leading. Either remove it, or add the following to > balance it (additions marked in in bold)... > > While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet, *others are seeking to manage it in partisan interests through big business based or plurilateral mechanisms,*..... > > > Thanks, parminder > > how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the > central focus of this workshop. > > ------------------- > > 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque : > > > It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise > description' of at least 200 words. > I am very interested in this discussion! > Cheers, Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu > Diplo Foundation > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programmewww.diplomacy.edu/ig > The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May > 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. > Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sir Tim Berners-Lee warned that the "dangerous" new laws would lead to a "destruction of human rights" if they were implemented in their current form. The new legislation, expected in next month's Queen's Speech, will enable GCHQ to access information "on demand" in "real time" without a warrant. But the British computer engineer, who advises the Government on how to make public data more accessible, said there has not been enough discussion on how the sensitive data could be safely stored. In an interview with The Guardian Sir Tim said: "The idea that we should routinely record information about people is obviously very dangerous. "It means that there will be information around which could be stolen, which can be acquired through corrupt officials or corrupt operators, and (could be) used, for example, to blackmail people in the Government or people in the military. "We open ourselves out, if we store this information, to it being abused." The internet pioneer added: "The amount of control you have over somebody if you can monitor internet activity is amazing. "You get to know every detail, you get to know, in a way, more intimate details about their life than any person that they talk to because often people will confide in the internet as they find their way through medical websites....or as an adolescent finds their way through a website about homosexuality, wondering what they are and whether they should talk to people about it." The Home Secretary Theresa May defended the proposals after they faced fierce criticism from backbench MPs and civil liberties groups. She insisted that suspected terrorists, paedophiles and serious criminals would be targeted by intelligence officials rather than ordinary people. 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I imagine that ICC (business) and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make such a request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to governments etc… Best, Bill *************************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake www.williamdrake.org **************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I imagine that ICC (business) > and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make such a > request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. > > Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the > co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to > Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than > later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to > governments etc… > > Best, > > Bill > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ ACADEMIE DES TIC FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre At-Large Member NCSG Member email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net tél:+243998983491 skype:b.schombe wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Wed Apr 18 07:01:57 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:01:57 -0400 Subject: [governance] Stakeholder Participation in the Enhanced Cooperation Meeting in Geneva In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66F49603-4C2D-4E35-B81F-49250FFA743B@acm.org> good idea avri On 18 Apr 2012, at 05:05, William Drake wrote: > Hello, > > As you know, there will be an enhanced cooperation consultation on 18 May in Geneva, following the IGF consultations and MAG meeting. http://archive.unctad.org/Templates/Page.asp?intItemID=6227&lang=1 > > It would be very important that all stakeholders are able to intervene and contribute freely (but strategically) during this consultation, rather than have to sit silently on the sidelines or be relegated to collective brief interventions at the end of each session. I imagine that ICC (business) and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make such a request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. > > Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to governments etc… > > Best, > > Bill > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Wed Apr 18 07:49:57 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:49:57 +0900 Subject: [governance] Stakeholder Participation in the Enhanced Cooperation Meeting in Geneva In-Reply-To: <66F49603-4C2D-4E35-B81F-49250FFA743B@acm.org> References: <66F49603-4C2D-4E35-B81F-49250FFA743B@acm.org> Message-ID: Yes, we will be at your disposal. Izumi 2012年4月18日水曜日 Avri Doria avri at acm.org : > good idea > > avri > > On 18 Apr 2012, at 05:05, William Drake wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > As you know, there will be an enhanced cooperation consultation on 18 > May in Geneva, following the IGF consultations and MAG meeting. > http://archive.unctad.org/Templates/Page.asp?intItemID=6227&lang=1 > > > > It would be very important that all stakeholders are able to intervene > and contribute freely (but strategically) during this consultation, rather > than have to sit silently on the sidelines or be relegated to collective > brief interventions at the end of each session. I imagine that ICC > (business) and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make > such a request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. > > > > Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the > co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to > Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than > later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to > governments etc… > > > > Best, > > > > Bill > > > > *************************************************** > > William J. Drake > > International Fellow & Lecturer > > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > > University of Zurich, Switzerland > > william.drake at uzh.ch > > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > > www.williamdrake.org > > **************************************************** > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From pouzin at well.com Wed Apr 18 08:40:28 2012 From: pouzin at well.com (Louis Pouzin (well)) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:40:28 +0200 Subject: [governance] G. Moody: Euro Commission Blames Social Networks For ACTAFailure In-Reply-To: <99DF71AC56A849DABA8B24058074C2F2@UserVAIO> References: <99DF71AC56A849DABA8B24058074C2F2@UserVAIO> Message-ID: ACTA on the ropes ! Report to European Parliament http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=COMPARL&reference=PE-486.174&format=PDF&language=EN&secondRef=02 Press release http://www.ip-watch.org/2012/04/17/key-committee-urged-to-seek-parliamentary-rejection-of-acta/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=alerts It's a bizarre situation that the EU Commission be paid by European taxpayers, for playing in the hands of US lobbies. - - - On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 17:55, michael gurstein wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org > [mailto:a2k-bounces at lists.keionline.org] On Behalf Of Manon Ress > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:09 PM > To: a2k discuss list > Subject: [A2k] G. Moody: Euro Commission Blames Social Networks For > ACTAFailure > > > In Techdirt > > http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120312/09321618075/european-commission-bl > > ames-social-networks-acta-failure-worried-about-its-imminent-directive-copyr > ight-enforcement.shtml > > by Glyn Moody > > Tue, Mar 13th 2012 4:12am > > European Commission Blames Social Networks For ACTA Failure; Worried About > Its Imminent Directive On Copyright Enforcement from the > still-not-listening dept > > Now that the EU's ratification of ACTA has departed from the original > script > of everyone just waving it through, the European Commission is clearly > trying to come up with Plan B. Some insights into its thinking can be > gained > from the minutes (pdf) of a recent Commission meeting, pointed out to us by > André Rebentisch. > > Here's what the President of the European Commission, José Manuel Barroso, > said about ACTA: > > The President introduced the topic, commenting on the intensity and > scale of the public debate and the organised campaign against the > Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). There were those in particular > who felt that the agreement would lead specifically to an unwarranted > restriction on freedom of expression and democracy on the Internet, and > would distort the reasonable balance between intellectual property rights > and other fundamental rights. > > He therefore felt that the Court of Justice of the European Union should > be asked to confirm the Commission’s position in this matter, namely that > ACTA was consistent and compatible with the Treaties and with the Charter > of > Fundamental Rights of the European Union. He suggested that that day’s > discussion should consider that point, but also the question of when would > be an appropriate time to refer the matter to the Court, and the > possibility > of consulting Parliament and the Council with a view to adopting a common > approach in this matter. > > The suggestion that the anger over ACTA was somehow part of an "organised > campaign" looks like a continuing failure to grasp that the protests were > about all Internet users across Europe coming together to defend their > online community. As for the "common approach" with the European > Parliament, > it's easy to see why the European Commission would want this: it would > allow > the referral of ACTA to the European Court of Justice to be framed in such > a > way as to increase the likelihood of a positive response from the court. It > will be interesting to see whether the European Parliament acquiesces in > this, or continues to take a hard line on the need for more searching > questions to be asked. > > Barroso's comments were followed by some observations from Karel De Gucht, > the European Commissioner with direct responsibility for ACTA, who made > some > revealing remarks: > > He noted that opposition had increased in the run-up to January’s > planned vote in the US Congress on two legislative initiatives -- the Stop > Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) > -- > aimed at increasing the protection of intellectual property rights on the > Internet; in the end the vote had not been held, following a hostile > campaign by social networks and the loss of White House support. > > It's interesting to see De Gucht linking the growing hostility to ACTA with > the storm generated by SOPA/PIPA, and giving the credit for stopping those > US bills to a "hostile campaign" waged by social networks. You can tell > this > really worries him, because he says something similar about social networks > and ACTA immediately > afterwards: > > Despite the signature of ACTA in January by the Commission, the Union > Presidency and twenty-one other Member States, the intense media campaign > which was unleashed in Europe, instigated largely by the social networks, > had since led a number of Union Heads of State or Government to decide to > delay signature or ratification of the agreement by their national > parliaments. He added that the campaign had also had a considerable > influence on Members of the European Parliament and, following recent > contacts with various political groups, he now felt it would be difficult > to > muster a majority in favour of ACTA within the EP. > > What's extraordinary is that no less than three other commissioners also > spoke at the meeting about the importance of social networks, and the need > to grapple with them. > > Viviane Reding: > > She concluded by highlighting the rising influence of social networks on > the Internet and the need for the Commission to take account of this in its > communication policy and in dealing with various dossiers. Instructions had > already been given to the communication units in the Directorates-General. > > Neelie Kroes: > > She concluded by stressing the need for appropriate communication on the > agreement, without waiting for the Court’s opinion, targeted particularly > at > the various stakeholders involved and social networks. > > Michel Barnier: > > was also of the opinion that the key role of social networks in public > debate in Europe forced the Commission to think carefully about adapting > some of its means of communication and that Members should discuss the > matter as soon possible. > > What emerges very clearly from this is that the most senior politicians in > the European Union are completely nonplussed by the power of social > networks > to mobilize not just Net activists but ordinary Internet users, and are > struggling to deal with it. I think we can expect to see attempts to > neutralize that new force by "reaching out" to social networks in a variety > of ways in the coming months. One area where that will clearly happen is > for > the forthcoming update on the EU's "IPR Enforcement Directive", generally > known as IPRED. The Commission meeting referred to it explicitly: > > As regards the planned revision of the 2004 Directive on enforcement of > intellectual property rights, the Commission needed to adopt a prudent and > balanced approach to this politically delicate exercise, and take account > of > existing texts on the protection of data and privacy in the areas of > telecoms and fundamental rights. > > The EC knows that it must be very careful here, because the measures > already > mooted for the next version of IPRED are very close to some of SOPA's bad > ideas -- for example, turning ISPs into copyright cops. The European > Commission has observed what happened in the US, and is clearly very > concerned that the IPRED update will meet the same opposition from those > mysterious, uncontrollable social networks as SOPA/PIPA did and ACTA is now > doing. > > -- > Manon Anne Ress > Knowledge Ecology International > 1621 Connecticut Ave, NW, Suite 500 > Washington, DC 20009 USA > http://www.keionline.org > manon.ress at keionline.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would be nice to catch up. Best, Peter Peter H. Hellmonds Head of Public and International Affairs, Nokia Siemens Networks Marketing & Corporate Affairs, Government Relations Berlin: Siemensdamm 62, D-13627 Berlin München: St. Martinstr. 76, D-81541 München Phone: +49 (89) 5159-31250, Mobile: +49 (170) 923-2136 E-Mail: peter.hellmonds at nsn.com , Fax: +49 (89) 5159-33845 Web: http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/global/ P.S.: Before using the "Reply-to-all button", think about whether everyone needs to be kept on the distribution list. From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of ext William Drake Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:06 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Stakeholder Participation in the Enhanced Cooperation Meeting in Geneva Hello, As you know, there will be an enhanced cooperation consultation on 18 May in Geneva, following the IGF consultations and MAG meeting. http://archive.unctad.org/Templates/Page.asp?intItemID=6227&lang=1 It would be very important that all stakeholders are able to intervene and contribute freely (but strategically) during this consultation, rather than have to sit silently on the sidelines or be relegated to collective brief interventions at the end of each session. I imagine that ICC (business) and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make such a request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to governments etc... Best, Bill *************************************************** William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake www.williamdrake.org **************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Michel TCHONANG LINZE Coordinateur Général > Hello, > > As you know, there will be an enhanced cooperation consultation on 18 May in Geneva, following the IGF consultations and MAG meeting. http://archive.unctad.org/Templates/Page.asp?intItemID=6227&lang=1 > > It would be very important that all stakeholders are able to intervene and contribute freely (but strategically) during this consultation, rather than have to sit silently on the sidelines or be relegated to collective brief interventions at the end of each session. I imagine that ICC (business) and ISOC (TC) will be contacting the CSTD secretariat to make such a request. On behalf of civil society, the IGC should do the same. > > Assuming people agree with the proposition, may I suggest that the co-coordinators take a crack at drafting a one or two paragraph letter to Mongi to this effect? Probably it would be better to do it sooner than later, as the secretariat would then need to pass the request along to governments etc… > > Best, > > Bill > > *************************************************** > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > william.drake at uzh.ch > www.mediachange.ch/people/william-j-drake > www.williamdrake.org > **************************************************** > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > > > For all other list information and functions, see: > > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *EVENEMENTS SUR LES TIC ! * Forum SMSI du 14 au 18 Mai 2012 à Genève - Suisse FGI Afrique Centrale du 29 au 31 Mai 2012 à Douala - Cameroun FGI Afrique (AfIGF) Mi-Septembre 2012 au Caire - Egypte FGI du 06 au 09 novembre 2012 Baku, Azerbaïdjan *SYMPOSIUM TIC AFRIQUE* : Du *10 au 13 Juillet 2012 à Yaoundé – Cameroun.* * «Les TIC et le Développement Durable : Dans les pays émergents, quelles stratégies face à la Cybercriminalité et la Cybersécurité pour les Villes Numériques, l’e-Government, l’e.Emploi et l’e.Santé ?»*.* **CAPDA* (Consortium d'Appui aux Actions pour la Promotion et le Développement de l'Afrique) BP : 15 151 DOUALA - CAMEROUN Tél.:(237) /7775-39-63 / 2212-9493/ 3340-46-49 Fax : (237) 3340-46-49 Email : capdasiege at gmail.com / ticafrique at yahoo.fr / forumtic2005 at yahoo.fr Site : www.capda.net ; www.ict-forum.org ; www.ict-africa.org ; www.tic-afrique.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Thu Apr 19 05:08:29 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:08:29 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: <4F8DA1C9.6000604@itforchange.net> References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> <4F8DA1C9.6000604@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Izumi, Given that any amended text might raise further objections, perhaps the simplest thing to do is delete rather than add. Make the last paragraph: How the actual “improved” IGF remains relevant will be the central focus of this workshop. Removes the text Parminder doesn't like. And makes the same point. Best, Adam On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM, parminder wrote: > Dear Izumi, > > Thanks for this. Just two comments, as below. > > On Monday 16 April 2012 06:21 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > > Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question > 2. > Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days > left. > > -------------- > Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. > > IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated > by the UN Secretary General. > > > A small correction. The improvements were mandated by the UN GA and not the > SG. > > > While some governments are calling for tighter control of the > Internet, > > > This is a loaded and one-sided statement. I am not saying that you meant it > that way, but it does get used as a code phrase for a general accusation > against developing countires which is either not well-informed and balanced > or is deliberately mis-leading.  Either remove it, or add the following to > balance it (additions marked in in bold)... > > While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet, > others are seeking to manage it in partisan interests through big business > based or plurilateral mechanisms,..... > > Thanks, parminder > > how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the > central focus of this workshop. > > ------------------- > > 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque : > > > It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise > description' of at least 200 words. > I am very interested in this discussion! > Cheers, Ginger > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > > VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu > Diplo Foundation > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme > www.diplomacy.edu/ig > The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May > 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. > Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 05:46:33 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 06:46:33 -0300 Subject: [governance] FW: The Return of Paul Garrin Message-ID: <6C800E36844946AB9170D63C23D1E13B@UserVAIO> -----Original Message----- From: nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org [mailto:nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org] On Behalf Of Geert Lovink Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:23 AM To: nettime-l at kein.org Subject: The Return of Paul Garrin 'Net pioneer isn't giving up on .nyc or on 481 others April 12, 2012 | Filed under: News | Posted by: admin (fwd. from Josephine Bosma) http://www.thevillager.com/?p=3489 BY LINCOLN ANDERSON | The Internet is getting crowded. It's something that East Village tech entrepreneur Paul Garrin has been saying for years. "The Internet is like the phone system - they needed more area codes," Garrin explained. Now, ICANN, the nebulous organization that oversees the 'Net, is poised to approve possibly hundreds of new so-called generic top-level domain names, making them available for the global marketplace by this time next year. This would explode the Internet, adding an avalanche of address suffixes beyond the current scant offerings of .com, .org or .net. A three-month application period for new "T.L.D.s" will close this Thurs., April 12. "This is the land rush," said Garrin, founder of name.space. "You're going to start seeing useful domain names," said Al Vazquez, name.space's chief technology officer. It's expected that many brand owners will go for their own T.L.D.s, such as .nike and .coke. Only a few new T.L.D.'s have been added since the Internet first took off. In 2000, seven were added, including .info and .biz, as well as .museum and .aero - but the latter two suffixes are only for use by museums or airports. In 2004, .jobs and .mobi (for mobile phones) were approved. However, name.space, the East Village-based start-up Garrin founded in 1996, already operates nearly 500 top-level domain names - but it does so outside of the "main root," which is controlled by ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers). Yet, all it takes to use Garrin's system is a mere control-panel switch on one's computer, as simple as changing a screen-saver image. In 2000, seeking to gain access to the main root, name.space paid ICANN a $50,000 application fee for approval of 118 of its T.L.D.s. - ones that would be expected to be top performers, according to Garrin. These included the likes of .art , .cafe , .cam , .free, .gay, .hotel, .jobs, .news, .politics, .sex, .shop, .sucks and .weather, among others. Referring to ICANN's opening up .jobs for use in 2004, Garrin said it been "stolen" from name.space. "We want it back," he declared. Also in this group of 118 T.L.D.s that name.space applied for in 2000 was the potentially lucrative .nyc, which Garrin still lays claim to as the Bloomberg administration is even now negotiating with a Virginia-based company to acquire and operate this address. Garrin calls this rival company "Virginia carpetbaggers," and, by contrast, stresses that name.space is dedicated to a social mission that would use a portion of its profits to make a real difference in New York City. The New York Times reported last month that New York City is seeking a five-year contract with the Virginia company to run and market .nyc, under which the city would be guaranteed at least $3.6 million. Other top-level domain extensions that name.space still lays claim to - but that weren't included in its application list of 118 prime names - include .blog, .chat, .food, .green, .law and .text. Critically important, Garrin said, all these address suffixes, including .nyc - 482, in total, coined by name.space - have been in continuous operation by his company since 1996. He even kept his T.L.D.s up and running when in 2003 he almost died from a burst appendix - using a laptop computer in his hospital bed. Last month, name.space's counsel wrote ICANN, restating the company's claim to its 482 T.L.D.s. Garrin tends not to disclose the numbers of users name.space has. But, Domain Incite, a Web publication, in an article last month, dubbed it "a lightly used alternate D.N.S. root system." But the profits that stand to be made with T.L.D.s are huge. For example, VeriSign, which runs the registration for .com and .net, is valued at $5.5 billion. To this day, ICANN has yet to resolve Garrin's 2000 application, and this is intentional, he accused, because they don't want to acknowledge it. Meanwhile, under the new process now starting, ICANN is charging a steep fee of $185,000 for each application for a new T.L.D. If name.space were to reapply under these new rules, it would have to pay a whopping $21.8 million. "They're trying to price us out of our own business," Garrin said. Plus, name.space won't reapply because that would mean relinquishing its claims under its previous application, he pointed out - adding that's exactly what ICANN would want them to do. "We're asking people to opt into our D.N.S.," Garrin said of his domain name system. "They don't have to wait for ICANN - they can start today." To buy a domain name, such as soho.politics, westvillage.food or eastvillage.sex, from name.space would typically cost $30. Reverend Billy, for one, has already registered an address with name.space - starbucks.sucks. Garrin strongly opposes speculative "squatters" who swoop in and buy T.L.D.s, then hold them hostage until they can make a killing. However, he said, his company might auction off more valuable names. Although name.space is continuing to operate in its alternate root, Garrin said, "Our goal is to get into the main root. We don't want to split the root." Garrin said they don't want to have to sue ICANN for trademark infringement. If accepted into the main root, name.space's business would, no doubt, go through the roof. "If we launch with 100 domain names, the return in five years would be $1.1 billion," Garrin said. Under name.space's mission, part of that money would be channeled back into New York neighborhoods through "community reinvestment, affordable broadband, digital literacy and adoption, and bridging the digital divide." The Internet pioneer has written to local politicians, asking for their help in his fight to retain his top-level domain names - which, he notes, he created two years before ICANN itself was even created. Mayor Bloomberg wants New York City to become "Silicon Valley East." As Garrin pointed out in his letter to Congressmember Carolyn Maloney on April 5, name.space is already well positioned to be a leader in that technological revolution. As Garrin wrote to Maloney, "A favorable outcome is meaningful, especially in this time of economic crisis as name.space will create jobs and opportunities, and bring cash and data economy to New York City that would otherwise go to Australia, the U.K., Virginia, California or elsewhere." A graduate of The Cooper Union, Garrin was recently included in the prestigious East Village school's Hall of Fame. Yet he ultimately turned his back on the art world because he found it too ego-ridden and wanted to give something back to society. He's also known for having made one of the two main videotapes of the 1988 Tompkins Square Park riot. With the growth of the Web, he found a place to both fight the power and fulfill his calling for a higher purpose. "There's no public good coming out of ICANN," Garrin said. "It's a small clique of people that are colluding to corner the market." name.space itself, he said, is "a kind of declaration of freedom in cyberspace and it's a way around big media control. We can break it. We can claim our space in the realm of media. This is one more way people can control the future direction of the Internet." As part of the "opt-in" campaign for its domain name system, name.space is currently opening up registrations on its new Web site, at http://namespace.us . -- The Villager encourages readers to share articles. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime at kein.org !DSPAM:2676,4f8ea95b196997800917393! -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Thu Apr 19 06:01:02 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:01:02 +0900 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> <4F8DA1C9.6000604@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Thanks Parminder and Adam for your suggestions. I didn't mean developing country governments by "some governments", but quite a few now, in the context of SOPA, PIPA etc, or privacy concerns, CIRs, etc. And yes, there are moves from big business, as well. So, instead of deleting the whole sentence, how about replacing "governments" with "actors". It is not the intention of this phrase to argue who is trying to control, rather, in general terms to raising awareness. If that is still not good enough, Parminder or others, then yes let's drop that. izumi "While some actors are calling for tighter control of the Internet, how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central focus of this workshop." 2012/4/19 Adam Peake : > Izumi, > > Given that any amended text might raise further objections, perhaps > the simplest thing to do is delete rather than add. > > Make the last paragraph: > > How the actual “improved” IGF remains relevant will be the central > focus of this workshop. > > Removes the text Parminder doesn't like.  And makes the same point. > > Best, > > Adam > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM, parminder wrote: >> Dear Izumi, >> >> Thanks for this. Just two comments, as below. >> >> On Monday 16 April 2012 06:21 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: >> >> Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question >> 2. >> Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days >> left. >> >> -------------- >> Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. >> >> IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated >> by the UN Secretary General. >> >> >> A small correction. The improvements were mandated by the UN GA and not the >> SG. >> >> >> While some governments are calling for tighter control of the >> Internet, >> >> >> This is a loaded and one-sided statement. I am not saying that you meant it >> that way, but it does get used as a code phrase for a general accusation >> against developing countires which is either not well-informed and balanced >> or is deliberately mis-leading.  Either remove it, or add the following to >> balance it (additions marked in in bold)... >> >> While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet, >> others are seeking to manage it in partisan interests through big business >> based or plurilateral mechanisms,..... >> >> Thanks, parminder >> >> how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the >> central focus of this workshop. >> >> ------------------- >> >> 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque : >> >> >> It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise >> description' of at least 200 words. >> I am very interested in this discussion! >> Cheers, Ginger >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> >> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >> Diplo Foundation >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >> The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >> exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >> 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. >> Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 07:03:23 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:03:23 +0200 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 / Call for Workshop Proposals / Deadline - April 12 In-Reply-To: References: <23E1613F-3BA9-42F0-AF9A-6EC8EBBDFA4D@privaterra.org> <7CFE9BEE-93E9-4FAB-85A8-F34FCDEF6847@ella.com> <4F8DA1C9.6000604@itforchange.net> Message-ID: Adam's point is very valid, its not about playing with govts or actors, its the whole notion. -- Fouad On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Thanks Parminder and Adam for your suggestions. > > I didn't mean developing country governments by "some governments", > but quite a few now, in the context of SOPA, PIPA etc, or privacy > concerns, CIRs, etc.  And yes, there are moves from big business, > as well. > > So, instead of deleting the whole sentence, how about replacing > "governments" with "actors". It is not the intention of this phrase to > argue who is trying > to control, rather, in general terms to raising awareness. > > If that is still not good enough, Parminder or others, then yes let's drop that. > > izumi > > > > "While some actors are calling for tighter control of the Internet, > how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the central > focus of this workshop." > > > 2012/4/19 Adam Peake : >> Izumi, >> >> Given that any amended text might raise further objections, perhaps >> the simplest thing to do is delete rather than add. >> >> Make the last paragraph: >> >> How the actual “improved” IGF remains relevant will be the central >> focus of this workshop. >> >> Removes the text Parminder doesn't like.  And makes the same point. >> >> Best, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM, parminder wrote: >>> Dear Izumi, >>> >>> Thanks for this. Just two comments, as below. >>> >>> On Monday 16 April 2012 06:21 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Ginger, and you are right, so I tried the following for the Question >>> 2. >>> Your suggestions and changes are very much welcome, only three more days >>> left. >>> >>> -------------- >>> Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. >>> >>> IGF is now in the second phase and certain “improvements” are mandated >>> by the UN Secretary General. >>> >>> >>> A small correction. The improvements were mandated by the UN GA and not the >>> SG. >>> >>> >>> While some governments are calling for tighter control of the >>> Internet, >>> >>> >>> This is a loaded and one-sided statement. I am not saying that you meant it >>> that way, but it does get used as a code phrase for a general accusation >>> against developing countires which is either not well-informed and balanced >>> or is deliberately mis-leading.  Either remove it, or add the following to >>> balance it (additions marked in in bold)... >>> >>> While some governments are calling for tighter control of the Internet, >>> others are seeking to manage it in partisan interests through big business >>> based or plurilateral mechanisms,..... >>> >>> Thanks, parminder >>> >>> how the actual “improved” IGF remain relevant will be the >>> central focus of this workshop. >>> >>> ------------------- >>> >>> 2012/4/12 Ginger Paque : >>> >>> >>> It looks great, but note that the online form requires a 'concise >>> description' of at least 200 words. >>> I am very interested in this discussion! >>> Cheers, Ginger >>> >>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >>> >>> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >>> Diplo Foundation >>> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >>> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >>> The latest from Diplo....From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >>> exciting new trends: check our three online courses starting in May >>> 2012: Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. >>> Apply now to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- >                         >> Izumi Aizu << > >           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > >            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, >                                   Japan >                                  * * * * * >            << Writing the Future of the History >> >                                 www.anr.org > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 09:44:32 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:44:32 +0200 Subject: [governance] Pakistan to Takeover PTCL if Etisalat Fails to Pay $800 Million till June 2012 In-Reply-To: References: <4F8B90D1.7050306@eim.ae> Message-ID: http://dawn.com/2012/04/09/pakistan-warns-etisalat-to-pay-800-million-or-face-hostile-takeover/ Pakistan warns Etisalat to pay $800 million or face hostile takeover ISLAMABAD, April 8: Facing a serious financial crunch and fed up with Etisalat’s inflexibility in paying over $800 million in PTCL sale proceeds, Pakistan has asked the UAE-based firm to clear its dues before June this year or face hostile takeover of the country’s telecom giant by the government. Sources told Dawn that the stern warning was conveyed a few days ago to a high-level Etisalat delegation visiting Pakistan. The delegation met a government team led by Finance Minister Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh. The Etisalat delegation’s request for a meeting with Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani was turned down pending resolution of the dispute, the sources said. Keeping in mind Pakistan’s friendly relations with the UAE, the Dubai-based majority owner and operator of the country’s largest telecom firm has been told that it may keep a maximum of $150 million — more than double the value of a couple of problematic properties — but release the rest of the amount (slightly over $650 million) upfront. Etisalat has held back $800 million in PTCL sale proceeds for well over five years now, although it won 26 per cent shareholding along with management control of the-then telecom monopoly for $2.6 billion in June 2005. The Etisalat has been given a month to respond positively to the offer “because the true value of the money for Pakistan is in May” because Islamabad has to make a repayment of about $800 million to the International Monetary Fund. Non-payment will adversely affect foreign exchange reserves and impact Pakistan’s exchange rate negatively. The economic managers have been showing $800 million PTCL proceeds in their budget documents as financing items to bridge fiscal deficit that is expected this year to cross a whopping 7.5 per cent of the GDP owing to uncertainty over PTCL dues, auction of 3G telecom licences and disbursements under the Coalition Support Fund from the United States. “Enough is enough” was the message conveyed to the Etisalat delegation in the presence of Finance Minister Shaikh. “If we do not hear a positive response in a month, we shall make sure your flight does not land in Pakistan,” a furious participant was quoted to have told the guests. Moreover, the Etisalat would be banned from bidding in 3G telecom licences auction due in a couple of months to raise about $1 billion. Prime Minister’s Principal Secretary Khushnood Lashari and Finance Secretary Abdul Wajid Rana who is also a government member on the PTCL board of directors were among those who attended the meeting. The strong position taken at the meeting, said the sources, had the full backing of the president and the prime minister. The Etisalat’s top executive, the sources said, suggested appointing an independent auditor for the valuation of three properties and asked the government side to wait till its conclusion but this was rejected outright. The sources said the finance minister told the delegation Islamabad was not asking for a mark-up on $800 million the Etisalat utilised for more than five years now but that it was unjustified to hold back such a big amount against three properties having a total value of less than $70 million. The properties are under the control of PTCL, but their titles cannot be transferred in the name of PTCL owing to legal complications. Moreover, Pakistan has never disputed transferring property titles in the name of PTCL and was earnestly making efforts to overcome legal complications. “They are ‘worthy foreign investors’ and some of us are overawed but this cannot go on indefinitely to the extent of compromising sovereignty,” a participant of the meeting said, adding that nobody ever talked about the non-payment issue with Etisalat as was taken up a week ago. The unusual stern warning of an extreme threat came following a lot of top level persuasions from Pakistan for the recovery of PTCL dues over the last two years. The government had sold about 26 per cent shares along with management control of Pakistan’s largest telecom operator in June 2005 when Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh was privatisation minister in the Musharraf government. Soon after becoming the finance minister in the PPP government, Mr Shaikh had taken up the matter with Sheikh Nahayan Al Mabarak, a senior UAE minister and owner of the Abu Dhabi group, for payment of the at least $500 million in June 2010 against transfer of about 98 per cent of government properties. There were a total of 3,298 properties that were required to be transferred to PTCL, of which all except only three are currently not in the name of the PTCL owing to legal complexities. Later in February 2011, President Asif Ali Zardari also took a special visit to Dubai to seek the intervention of the UAE leadership for payment of $800 million that Etisalat owed to Islamabad for the country’s largest privatisation transaction — Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited —, but in vain. -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Afonso) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:14:06 -0300 Subject: [governance] Pakistan to Takeover PTCL if Etisalat Fails to Pay $800 Million till June 2012 In-Reply-To: References: <4F8B90D1.7050306@eim.ae> Message-ID: <4F901DAE.4040609@cafonso.ca> ... and the sky will fall on Pakistan if they do this, like it fell on Argentina for taking over parasitic Repsol's majority stake in YPF. frt rgds --c.a. On 04/19/2012 10:44 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > http://dawn.com/2012/04/09/pakistan-warns-etisalat-to-pay-800-million-or-face-hostile-takeover/ > > Pakistan warns Etisalat to pay $800 million or face hostile takeover > > ISLAMABAD, April 8: Facing a serious financial crunch and fed up with > Etisalat’s inflexibility in paying over $800 million in PTCL sale > proceeds, Pakistan has asked the UAE-based firm to clear its dues > before June this year or face hostile takeover of the country’s > telecom giant by the government. > > Sources told Dawn that the stern warning was conveyed a few days ago > to a high-level Etisalat delegation visiting Pakistan. The delegation > met a government team led by Finance Minister Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh. > > The Etisalat delegation’s request for a meeting with Prime Minister > Yousuf Raza Gilani was turned down pending resolution of the dispute, > the sources said. > > Keeping in mind Pakistan’s friendly relations with the UAE, the > Dubai-based majority owner and operator of the country’s largest > telecom firm has been told that it may keep a maximum of $150 million > — more than double the value of a couple of problematic properties — > but release the rest of the amount (slightly over $650 million) > upfront. > > Etisalat has held back $800 million in PTCL sale proceeds for well > over five years now, although it won 26 per cent shareholding along > with management control of the-then telecom monopoly for $2.6 billion > in June 2005. > > The Etisalat has been given a month to respond positively to the offer > “because the true value of the money for Pakistan is in May” because > Islamabad has to make a repayment of about $800 million to the > International Monetary Fund. Non-payment will adversely affect foreign > exchange reserves and impact Pakistan’s exchange rate negatively. The > economic managers have been showing $800 million PTCL proceeds in > their budget documents as financing items to bridge fiscal deficit > that is expected this year to cross a whopping 7.5 per cent of the GDP > owing to uncertainty over PTCL dues, auction of 3G telecom licences > and disbursements under the Coalition Support Fund from the United > States. > > “Enough is enough” was the message conveyed to the Etisalat delegation > in the presence of Finance Minister Shaikh. > > “If we do not hear a positive response in a month, we shall make sure > your flight does not land in Pakistan,” a furious participant was > quoted to have told the guests. Moreover, the Etisalat would be banned > from bidding in 3G telecom licences auction due in a couple of months > to raise about $1 billion. > > Prime Minister’s Principal Secretary Khushnood Lashari and Finance > Secretary Abdul Wajid Rana who is also a government member on the PTCL > board of directors were among those who attended the meeting. The > strong position taken at the meeting, said the sources, had the full > backing of the president and the prime minister. > > The Etisalat’s top executive, the sources said, suggested appointing > an independent auditor for the valuation of three properties and asked > the government side to wait till its conclusion but this was rejected > outright. > > The sources said the finance minister told the delegation Islamabad > was not asking for a mark-up on $800 million the Etisalat utilised for > more than five years now but that it was unjustified to hold back such > a big amount against three properties having a total value of less > than $70 million. The properties are under the control of PTCL, but > their titles cannot be transferred in the name of PTCL owing to legal > complications. > > Moreover, Pakistan has never disputed transferring property titles in > the name of PTCL and was earnestly making efforts to overcome legal > complications. > > “They are ‘worthy foreign investors’ and some of us are overawed but > this cannot go on indefinitely to the extent of compromising > sovereignty,” a participant of the meeting said, adding that nobody > ever talked about the non-payment issue with Etisalat as was taken up > a week ago. > > The unusual stern warning of an extreme threat came following a lot of > top level persuasions from Pakistan for the recovery of PTCL dues over > the last two years. The government had sold about 26 per cent shares > along with management control of Pakistan’s largest telecom operator > in June 2005 when Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh was privatisation minister in > the Musharraf government. > > Soon after becoming the finance minister in the PPP government, Mr > Shaikh had taken up the matter with Sheikh Nahayan Al Mabarak, a > senior UAE minister and owner of the Abu Dhabi group, for payment of > the at least $500 million in June 2010 against transfer of about 98 > per cent of government properties. There were a total of 3,298 > properties that were required to be transferred to PTCL, of which all > except only three are currently not in the name of the PTCL owing to > legal complexities. > > Later in February 2011, President Asif Ali Zardari also took a special > visit to Dubai to seek the intervention of the UAE leadership for > payment of $800 million that Etisalat owed to Islamabad for the > country’s largest privatisation transaction — Pakistan > Telecommunication Company Limited —, but in vain. > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 10:18:29 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:18:29 +0200 Subject: [governance] Pakistan to Takeover PTCL if Etisalat Fails to Pay $800 Million till June 2012 In-Reply-To: <4F901DAE.4040609@cafonso.ca> References: <4F8B90D1.7050306@eim.ae> <4F901DAE.4040609@cafonso.ca> Message-ID: Its gonna be crazy i tell you :) Some actions have far longer implications. Its a setback attempt similar to many other cases popping up. Trying to repay IMF loans without fulfilling commitments doesn't really give any better results. -- Foo On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > ... and the sky will fall on Pakistan if they do this, like it fell on > Argentina for taking over parasitic Repsol's majority stake in YPF. > > frt rgds > > --c.a. > > On 04/19/2012 10:44 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >> http://dawn.com/2012/04/09/pakistan-warns-etisalat-to-pay-800-million-or-face-hostile-takeover/ >> >> Pakistan warns Etisalat to pay $800 million or face hostile takeover >> >> ISLAMABAD, April 8: Facing a serious financial crunch and fed up with >> Etisalat’s inflexibility in paying over $800 million in PTCL sale >> proceeds, Pakistan has asked the UAE-based firm to clear its dues >> before June this year or face hostile takeover of the country’s >> telecom giant by the government. >> >> Sources told Dawn that the stern warning was conveyed a few days ago >> to a high-level Etisalat delegation visiting Pakistan. The delegation >> met a government team led by Finance Minister Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh. >> >> The Etisalat delegation’s request for a meeting with Prime Minister >> Yousuf Raza Gilani was turned down pending resolution of the dispute, >> the sources said. >> >> Keeping in mind Pakistan’s friendly relations with the UAE, the >> Dubai-based majority owner and operator of the country’s largest >> telecom firm has been told that it may keep a maximum of $150 million >> — more than double the value of a couple of problematic properties — >> but release the rest of the amount (slightly over $650 million) >> upfront. >> >> Etisalat has held back $800 million in PTCL sale proceeds for well >> over five years now, although it won 26 per cent shareholding along >> with management control of the-then telecom monopoly for $2.6 billion >> in June 2005. >> >> The Etisalat has been given a month to respond positively to the offer >> “because the true value of the money for Pakistan is in May” because >> Islamabad has to make a repayment of about $800 million to the >> International Monetary Fund. Non-payment will adversely affect foreign >> exchange reserves and impact Pakistan’s exchange rate negatively. The >> economic managers have been showing $800 million PTCL proceeds in >> their budget documents as financing items to bridge fiscal deficit >> that is expected this year to cross a whopping 7.5 per cent of the GDP >> owing to uncertainty over PTCL dues, auction of 3G telecom licences >> and disbursements under the Coalition Support Fund from the United >> States. >> >> “Enough is enough” was the message conveyed to the Etisalat delegation >> in the presence of Finance Minister Shaikh. >> >> “If we do not hear a positive response in a month, we shall make sure >> your flight does not land in Pakistan,” a furious participant was >> quoted to have told the guests. Moreover, the Etisalat would be banned >> from bidding in 3G telecom licences auction due in a couple of months >> to raise about $1 billion. >> >> Prime Minister’s Principal Secretary Khushnood Lashari and Finance >> Secretary Abdul Wajid Rana who is also a government member on the PTCL >> board of directors were among those who attended the meeting. The >> strong position taken at the meeting, said the sources, had the full >> backing of the president and the prime minister. >> >> The Etisalat’s top executive, the sources said, suggested appointing >> an independent auditor for the valuation of three properties and asked >> the government side to wait till its conclusion but this was rejected >> outright. >> >> The sources said the finance minister told the delegation Islamabad >> was not asking for a mark-up on $800 million the Etisalat utilised for >> more than five years now but that it was unjustified to hold back such >> a big amount against three properties having a total value of less >> than $70 million. The properties are under the control of PTCL, but >> their titles cannot be transferred in the name of PTCL owing to legal >> complications. >> >> Moreover, Pakistan has never disputed transferring property titles in >> the name of PTCL and was earnestly making efforts to overcome legal >> complications. >> >> “They are ‘worthy foreign investors’ and some of us are overawed but >> this cannot go on indefinitely to the extent of compromising >> sovereignty,” a participant of the meeting said, adding that nobody >> ever talked about the non-payment issue with Etisalat as was taken up >> a week ago. >> >> The unusual stern warning of an extreme threat came following a lot of >> top level persuasions from Pakistan for the recovery of PTCL dues over >> the last two years. The government had sold about 26 per cent shares >> along with management control of Pakistan’s largest telecom operator >> in June 2005 when Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh was privatisation minister in >> the Musharraf government. >> >> Soon after becoming the finance minister in the PPP government, Mr >> Shaikh had taken up the matter with Sheikh Nahayan Al Mabarak, a >> senior UAE minister and owner of the Abu Dhabi group, for payment of >> the at least $500 million in June 2010 against transfer of about 98 >> per cent of government properties. There were a total of 3,298 >> properties that were required to be transferred to PTCL, of which all >> except only three are currently not in the name of the PTCL owing to >> legal complexities. >> >> Later in February 2011, President Asif Ali Zardari also took a special >> visit to Dubai to seek the intervention of the UAE leadership for >> payment of $800 million that Etisalat owed to Islamabad for the >> country’s largest privatisation transaction — Pakistan >> Telecommunication Company Limited —, but in vain. >> >> -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 10:20:25 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:20:25 +0200 Subject: [governance] CNN.com's story "Does the Internet breed killers?" Message-ID: As the Internet Freedom For Global Development conference concludes in Stockholm, the following item may be of interest for discussion in the upcoming Eurodig in Stockholm: CNN.com's story "Does the Internet breed killers?" http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/19/opinion/keen-breivik-internet/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From azrak_khan at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 01:29:29 2012 From: azrak_khan at hotmail.com (Arzak Khan) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:29:29 +0000 Subject: [governance] Pakistan to Takeover PTCL if Etisalat Fails to Pay $800 Million till June 2012 In-Reply-To: References: <4F8B90D1.7050306@eim.ae>,,,<4F901DAE.4040609@cafonso.ca>, Message-ID: Looks like Zardari government is ready to take extreme measures. The consequences of such an action and the message it will send to other operators will be colossal. Cheers! Arzak > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:18:29 +0200 > From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com > To: ca at cafonso.ca > CC: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: Re: [governance] Pakistan to Takeover PTCL if Etisalat Fails to Pay $800 Million till June 2012 > > Its gonna be crazy i tell you :) Some actions have far longer > implications. Its a setback attempt similar to many other cases > popping up. Trying to repay IMF loans without fulfilling commitments > doesn't really give any better results. > > -- Foo > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > > ... and the sky will fall on Pakistan if they do this, like it fell on > > Argentina for taking over parasitic Repsol's majority stake in YPF. > > > > frt rgds > > > > --c.a. > > > > On 04/19/2012 10:44 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > >> http://dawn.com/2012/04/09/pakistan-warns-etisalat-to-pay-800-million-or-face-hostile-takeover/ > >> > >> Pakistan warns Etisalat to pay $800 million or face hostile takeover > >> > >> ISLAMABAD, April 8: Facing a serious financial crunch and fed up with > >> Etisalat’s inflexibility in paying over $800 million in PTCL sale > >> proceeds, Pakistan has asked the UAE-based firm to clear its dues > >> before June this year or face hostile takeover of the country’s > >> telecom giant by the government. > >> > >> Sources told Dawn that the stern warning was conveyed a few days ago > >> to a high-level Etisalat delegation visiting Pakistan. The delegation > >> met a government team led by Finance Minister Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh. > >> > >> The Etisalat delegation’s request for a meeting with Prime Minister > >> Yousuf Raza Gilani was turned down pending resolution of the dispute, > >> the sources said. > >> > >> Keeping in mind Pakistan’s friendly relations with the UAE, the > >> Dubai-based majority owner and operator of the country’s largest > >> telecom firm has been told that it may keep a maximum of $150 million > >> — more than double the value of a couple of problematic properties — > >> but release the rest of the amount (slightly over $650 million) > >> upfront. > >> > >> Etisalat has held back $800 million in PTCL sale proceeds for well > >> over five years now, although it won 26 per cent shareholding along > >> with management control of the-then telecom monopoly for $2.6 billion > >> in June 2005. > >> > >> The Etisalat has been given a month to respond positively to the offer > >> “because the true value of the money for Pakistan is in May” because > >> Islamabad has to make a repayment of about $800 million to the > >> International Monetary Fund. Non-payment will adversely affect foreign > >> exchange reserves and impact Pakistan’s exchange rate negatively. The > >> economic managers have been showing $800 million PTCL proceeds in > >> their budget documents as financing items to bridge fiscal deficit > >> that is expected this year to cross a whopping 7.5 per cent of the GDP > >> owing to uncertainty over PTCL dues, auction of 3G telecom licences > >> and disbursements under the Coalition Support Fund from the United > >> States. > >> > >> “Enough is enough” was the message conveyed to the Etisalat delegation > >> in the presence of Finance Minister Shaikh. > >> > >> “If we do not hear a positive response in a month, we shall make sure > >> your flight does not land in Pakistan,” a furious participant was > >> quoted to have told the guests. Moreover, the Etisalat would be banned > >> from bidding in 3G telecom licences auction due in a couple of months > >> to raise about $1 billion. > >> > >> Prime Minister’s Principal Secretary Khushnood Lashari and Finance > >> Secretary Abdul Wajid Rana who is also a government member on the PTCL > >> board of directors were among those who attended the meeting. The > >> strong position taken at the meeting, said the sources, had the full > >> backing of the president and the prime minister. > >> > >> The Etisalat’s top executive, the sources said, suggested appointing > >> an independent auditor for the valuation of three properties and asked > >> the government side to wait till its conclusion but this was rejected > >> outright. > >> > >> The sources said the finance minister told the delegation Islamabad > >> was not asking for a mark-up on $800 million the Etisalat utilised for > >> more than five years now but that it was unjustified to hold back such > >> a big amount against three properties having a total value of less > >> than $70 million. The properties are under the control of PTCL, but > >> their titles cannot be transferred in the name of PTCL owing to legal > >> complications. > >> > >> Moreover, Pakistan has never disputed transferring property titles in > >> the name of PTCL and was earnestly making efforts to overcome legal > >> complications. > >> > >> “They are ‘worthy foreign investors’ and some of us are overawed but > >> this cannot go on indefinitely to the extent of compromising > >> sovereignty,” a participant of the meeting said, adding that nobody > >> ever talked about the non-payment issue with Etisalat as was taken up > >> a week ago. > >> > >> The unusual stern warning of an extreme threat came following a lot of > >> top level persuasions from Pakistan for the recovery of PTCL dues over > >> the last two years. The government had sold about 26 per cent shares > >> along with management control of Pakistan’s largest telecom operator > >> in June 2005 when Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh was privatisation minister in > >> the Musharraf government. > >> > >> Soon after becoming the finance minister in the PPP government, Mr > >> Shaikh had taken up the matter with Sheikh Nahayan Al Mabarak, a > >> senior UAE minister and owner of the Abu Dhabi group, for payment of > >> the at least $500 million in June 2010 against transfer of about 98 > >> per cent of government properties. There were a total of 3,298 > >> properties that were required to be transferred to PTCL, of which all > >> except only three are currently not in the name of the PTCL owing to > >> legal complexities. > >> > >> Later in February 2011, President Asif Ali Zardari also took a special > >> visit to Dubai to seek the intervention of the UAE leadership for > >> payment of $800 million that Etisalat owed to Islamabad for the > >> country’s largest privatisation transaction — Pakistan > >> Telecommunication Company Limited —, but in vain. > >> > >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It provides a domestic independent forum in the Bangladesh to engage civil society, organization, government, corporate sector, technical, media and academia for fostering partnerships, coalitions and dialogues that would reveal the best practices and inform at policy level both at Local, National, Regional and Global level. It is our pleasure to invite you to the Bangladesh Consultation at the eve of the 7th Annual Meeting of the UN Internet Governance Forum (IGF), UN WSIS+10 [United Nations World Summit on the Information Society Forum 2012] and UN Broadband Commission for Digital Development *Tuesday 8 May, 2012 at 10:45 AM Meeting Room* *Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC)* *IEB Bhaban, Ramna, Dhaka 1000* Bangladesh Internet Governance Forum(BIGF) is organising Bangladesh Consultation in collaboration with Monthly Computer Jagat and Bangladesh NGOs Network for Radio and Communication [NGO in Special Consultative Status with the UN Economic and Social Council] Every day Internet is penetrating our life, bringing some more new ideas and making our lives easier and more comfortable. There are a lot of topics and ideas that the Internet brings to the agenda nationally and all those new trends should be duly discussed and agreed before widely stepping in and impacting the future. In this regard, we cordially invite all the participants to discuss with us the national implications of the ICT in Bangladesh and the trends of its future development. * * *Mr. Hasanul Haq Inu*, Hon’ble MP & Chairman, Parliamentary Standing Committee for Ministry of Post and Telecommunication has kindly consented to be present as Chief Guest. *Major General Zia Ahmed, psc (Retd.)*Chairman, Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission has kindly consented to be present as Special Guest in the consultation. *Dr. Akram H. Chowdhury, *Hon’ble* *MP and Chairperson, Centre for e-Parliament Research will moderate the Consultation. *Dr. Md. Mahfuz Ashraf*, Department of Management Information Systems, University of Dhaka, *Mr. Tarique M Barkatullah* of Bangladesh Computer Council, *Lieutenant Colonel Rakibul Hassan* of Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC), and *Mr. Reza Salim,*Director, Amader Gram- ICT for Development Project will present papers based on Bangladesh context on Internet Governance, WSIS+10 & Action Plan of Broadband Commission. The overall theme of the Bangladesh Consultation will be Internet Governance for Sustainable Human, Economic and Social Development, Overall Review of the Implementation of the WSIS Outcomes (WSIS+10) and Broadband Targets for 2015 . Bangladesh outcomes of Bangladesh Consultation will be shared to 7th Meeting of the UN Internet Governance Forum 6 to 9 November 2012, Baku, Azerbaijan, UN WSIS Forum 14 to 18 May 2012 in Geneva, Switzerland, UN Broadband Commission for Digital Development related next meeting and UN Commission for Science and Technology for Development (UN CSTD) 21 May 2012 - 25 May 2012 in Geneva, Switzerland. We are eagerly looking forward to your active participation and valued contribution towards Bangladesh Consultation. We look forward to welcoming you at the Bangladesh Consultation Process. If you need more information. Please contact: *M. A. Haque Anu *Secretary General Bangladesh Internet Governance Forum (BIGF) Cell: +8801911341654 E-Mail: anu at comjagat.com Web : www.bigf.org Bazlu _______________________ AHM. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 05:14:58 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:14:58 -0300 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org [mailto:nettime-l-bounces at mail.kein.org] On Behalf Of nettime's_roving_reporter Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:04 AM To: nettime-l at kein.org Subject: [SPAM] riseup server seized Server Seizure, April 2012 April 18th, 2012, Riseup had a server seized by the US Federal Authorities. This is our press release. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FBI seizes server providing anonymous remailer and many other services from colocation facility. Contacts:[17]6 * Riseup Networks, Devin Theriot-Orr, 206-708-8740, sunbird at riseup.net * May First/People Link, Jamie McClelland, 917-509-5734, jm at mayfirst.org * ECN: Isole Nella Rete, inr at riseup.net Attack on Anonymous Speech[18]6 On Wednesday, April 18, at approximately 16:00 Eastern Time, U.S. Federal authorities removed a server from a colocation facility shared by Riseup Networks and May First/People Link in New York City. The seized server was operated by the European Counter Network ("ECN"), the oldest independent internet service provider in Europe, who, among many other things, provided an anonymous remailer service, Mixmaster, that was the target of an FBI investigation into the bomb threats against the University of Pittsburgh. "The company running the facility has confirmed that the server was removed in conjunction with a search warrant issued by the FBI," said May First/People Link director Jamie McClelland. "The server seizure is not only an attack against us, but an attack against all users of the Internet who depend on anonymous communication." Disrupted in this seizure were academics, artists, historians, feminist groups, gay rights groups, community centers, documentation and software archives and free speech groups. The server included the mailing list "cyber rights" (the oldest discussion list in Italy to discuss this topic), a Mexican migrant solidarity group, and other groups working to support indigenous groups and workers in Latin America, the Caribbean and Africa. In total, over 300 email accounts, between 50-80 email lists, and several other websites have been taken off the Internet by this action. None are alleged to be involved in the anonymous bomb threats. "The FBI is using a sledgehammer approach, shutting down service to hundreds of users due to the actions of one anonymous person," said Devin Theriot-Orr, a spokesperson for Riseup. "This is particularly misguided because there is unlikely to be any information on the server regarding the source of the threatening emails." "We sympathize with the University of Pittsburgh community who have had to deal with this frightening disruption for weeks. We oppose such threatening actions. However, taking this server won't stop these bomb threats. The only effect it has is to also disrupt e-mail and websites for thousands of unrelated people," continues Mr. Theriot-Orr. "Furthermore, the network of anonymous remailers that exists is not harmed by taking this machine. So we cannot help but wonder why such drastic action was taken when authorities knew that the server contained no useful information that would help in their investigation." The FBI purportedly seized the server because it was hosting an anonymous remailer called Mixmaster. Anonymous remailers are used to send email anonymously, or pseudonymously. Like other anonymizing services such as the Tor network, these remailers are widely used to protect the identity of human rights activists who place themselves and their families in grave danger by reporting information about abuses. Remailers are also important for corporate whistle blowers, democracy activists working under repressive regimes, and others to communicate vital information that would otherwise go un-reported. The Mixmaster software is specifically designed to make it impossible for anyone to trace the emails. The system does not record logs of connections, details of who sent messages, or how they were routed. This is because the Mixmaster network is specifically designed to resist censorship, and support privacy and anonymity. Unfortunately, some people misuse the network. However, compared to the rate of legitimate use, the abuse rate is very low. There is therefore no legitimate purpose for the FBI to seize this server because they will not be able to obtain any information about the sender. This is plainly extra-judicial punishment and an attack on free speech and anonymity on the internet and serves as a chilling effect on others providers of anonymous remailers or other anonymous services. In absence of any other leads, the FBI needs to show that they are making progress in this case, and this has meant seizing a server so they can proudly demonstrate they are taking some action. But what this incident shows is they are grasping at straws and are willing to destroy innocent bystanders for the sake of protecting their careers. About the organizations involved[19]6 MayFirst/People Link ([20]mayfirst.org) is a politically-progressive member-run and controlled organization that redefines the concept of "Internet Service Provider" in a collective and collaborative way. May First/People Link's members are organizers and activists who elect a Leadership Committee to direct the organization. Like a coop, members pay dues, buy equipment and then share that equipment for websites, email, email lists, and other Internet purposes. Riseup Networks ([21]riseup.net) provides online communication tools for people and groups working on liberatory social change. Riseup creates democratic alternatives and practices self-determination by controlling our own secure means of communications. ECN (European Counter Network - [22]ecn.org) is the oldest independent service provider in Europe providing free email accounts, mailing lists, and websites to organizations, activists, and movements that are involved in human rights, freedom of speech and information in Italy and Europe. ECN is anti-fascist and works towards a just and equal society. Years ago, before sites like Youtube and Vimeo existed, ECN created a platform called NGV where people could upload and share independent video of human rights violations. Nowadays ECN works primarily with anti-fascist and anti-Nazi movements in all of Europe, providing space and resources to political and social centers. Questions / further reading[23]6 Q: Doesn't Mixmaster/anonymous remailers enable criminals to do bad things? A: Criminals can already do bad things. Since they're willing to break laws, they already have lots of options available that provide better privacy than mixmaster provides. They can steal cell phones, use them, and throw them in a ditch; they can crack into computers in Korea or Brazil and use them to launch abusive activities; they can use spyware, viruses, and other techniques to take control of literally millions of Windows machines around the world. Mixmaster aims to provide protection for ordinary people who want to follow the law. Only criminals have privacy right now, and we need to fix that. Some advocates of anonymity explain that it's just a tradeoff -- accepting the bad uses for the good ones -- but there's more to it than that. Criminals and other bad people have the motivation to learn how to get good anonymity, and many have the motivation to pay well to achieve it. Being able to steal and reuse the identities of innocent victims (identify theft) makes it even easier. Normal people, on the other hand, don't have the time or money to spend figuring out how to get privacy online. This is the worst of all possible worlds. So yes, criminals could in theory use mixmaster, but they already have better options, and it seems unlikely that taking mixmaster away from the world will stop them from doing bad things. At the same time, mixmaster and other privacy measures can fight identity theft, physical crimes like stalking, and so on. Please see the [24]tor FAQ on abuse for more information. Q: How does Mixmaster / Anonymous remailers work? A: Anonymous remailers work by connecting to other anonymous remailers in a chain, and every one in that chain removes the mail header information making it impossible to find the real sender. [25]The Tor project maintains a list of typical users of this and other anonymity systems, and the [26]Mixmaster home page [English..] This site is run by riseup.net, your friendly autonomous tech collective since 1999. References 17. https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april#contacts 18. https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april#attack-on-anonymous-speech 19. https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april#about-the-organizations-involv ed 20. https://mayfirst.org/ 21. https://riseup.net/ 22. https://ecn.org/ 23. https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april#questions-further-reading 24. https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse.html 25. https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en 26. http://mixmaster.sourceforge.net/ !DSPAM:2676,4f90d2a6196997117969132! -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 20 06:18:34 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:18:34 +0100 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , at 06:14:58 on Fri, 20 Apr 2012, michael gurstein writes > "The company running the facility has confirmed that the server was > removed in conjunction with a search warrant issued by the FBI," Yes, search warrants are very disruptive things (when applied to premises as well as servers). It's one reason service providers will try to co-operate [with more finely tuned disclosure orders] as much as they think is reasonable, in order not to be served with a full search warrant. But at the end of the day law enforcement has a job to do, however inconvenient the virtual "Police Line - Do not Cross" tape turns out to be. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Fri Apr 20 06:23:57 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:23:57 -0400 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B63E1E2-73FC-4DBF-90F2-9FA6B10B5D21@istaff.org> On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:14 AM, michael gurstein wrote: > On Behalf Of nettime's_roving_reporter > > "The FBI is using a sledgehammer approach, shutting down service to > hundreds of users due to the actions of one anonymous person," said > Devin Theriot-Orr, a spokesperson for Riseup. "This is particularly > misguided because there is unlikely to be any information on the server > regarding the source of the threatening emails." An interesting Internet microcosm... The seizure is unlikely to make any meaningful difference, and yet it is also difficult for law enforcement to simply ignore the disruption caused to a university by dozens of bomb threats. Is anonymous speech an inherent feature of the Internet, and organizations simply have to accept the risks of receiving such threats along with other undesirable email such as bullying and spam? There are certainly cases of societal benefit from anonymous email, but also large potential for abuse, and without providing a meaningful framework on how to provide for proper enforcement of law, it's uncertain why governments would even bother to consider any perceived beneficial value from anonymous email. Complicating the situation enormously is the fact that in many cases the anonymity may be necessary specifically to provide a voice to those whom governments would otherwise gag, even in countries which avow respect for "freedom of speech". If this were not the case, one could arrange for a legal framework which provided for protected identities for email users who do not abuse the privilege, but that obviously doesn't work when there is the real potential for government authorities to seek the identities contrary to the framework... A very challenging problem, and similar in some aspects to issues found to Internet governance at large. If a principal-bases solution could be be found for this one specific problem, it may provide insights into how to deal with some challenges in the larger tapestry of Internet governance. FYI, /John Disclaimer: My views alone. 100% recycled electrons used in this message. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Fri Apr 20 06:36:12 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:36:12 +0300 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F913C1C.9050908@digsys.bg> If this server is part of a network, then it's configuration and contents are most likely already stored somewhere and it can be brought up to life again "reborn" at the same place. Or in any other place on Internet. No real harm done to the network... so in a way, the "complaint" of the event is just to make some publicity out of the case. On the other hand, about the only reason the police might want to seize a server like this (assuming it is indeed true that messages leave no traces in logs etc) is to learn about the technology being used, which might help them spy on such servers more effectively. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 20 08:00:10 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:00:10 +0100 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized In-Reply-To: <4F913C1C.9050908@digsys.bg> References: <4F913C1C.9050908@digsys.bg> Message-ID: In message <4F913C1C.9050908 at digsys.bg>, at 13:36:12 on Fri, 20 Apr 2012, Daniel Kalchev writes >On the other hand, about the only reason the police might want to seize >a server like this (assuming it is indeed true that messages leave no >traces in logs etc) The police can't just assume there's no trace, they have to investigate. It's surprising how often it does transpire that something useful can be discovered (I have no idea of the details of these particular servers). >is to learn about the technology being used, which might help them spy >on such servers more effectively. They will no doubt learn something about that as a side effect. One of the reasons judges need to sign off search warrants is to ensure the police are not going on "fishing expeditions" though. I find it a bit ironic when the police are turned away time and time again by people saying "I won't help you, go get a search warrant", and then cry foul when the police do exactly that. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From daniel at digsys.bg Fri Apr 20 08:34:07 2012 From: daniel at digsys.bg (Daniel Kalchev) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:34:07 +0300 Subject: [governance] riseup server seized In-Reply-To: References: <4F913C1C.9050908@digsys.bg> Message-ID: <4F9157BF.6040607@digsys.bg> On 20.04.12 15:00, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <4F913C1C.9050908 at digsys.bg>, at 13:36:12 on Fri, 20 Apr > 2012, Daniel Kalchev writes >> On the other hand, about the only reason the police might want to >> seize a server like this (assuming it is indeed true that messages >> leave no traces in logs etc) > > The police can't just assume there's no trace, they have to > investigate. It's surprising how often it does transpire that > something useful can be discovered (I have no idea of the details of > these particular servers). This is indeed true, in many cases, despite claims. But, the police cannot just go out and announce publicly that those servers in fact do store traces... and possibly a lot of other identifying information as well. This might be disclosed somehow during a trial, eventually. > I find it a bit ironic when the police are turned away time and time > again by people saying "I won't help you, go get a search warrant", > and then cry foul when the police do exactly that. It is of course always more productive to cooperate with the police, because usually they need a lot of help in these cases. There are a lot of things they simply do not know about technology and sometimes make naive decisions. Of course, the police will have to handle the case anyway, so by not cooperating you invite them to do something overly stupid (and possibly damaging). Unfortunately, a lot of criminals get away by 'cooperating' with the police -- so there is need for some balance. Most of all, education on possibilities and interaction (of the police and the operators) helps. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 10:28:17 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:28:17 -0300 Subject: [governance] FW: [Reader-list] Studios lose landmark anti-piracy suit in Australia Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:reader-list-bounces at sarai.net] On Behalf Of Jeebesh Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:51 AM To: reader-list at sarai.net Subject: [Reader-list] Studios lose landmark anti-piracy suit in Australia http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17781482 Major film and television studios have lost a landmark case over illegal video downloads in Australia. The High Court upheld a previous ruling that internet service provider (ISP) iiNet did not authorise copyright infringement among its customers. US and Australian studios had wanted iiNet to stop its customers from downloading pirated material. In 2010, a federal court had ruled in favour of iiNet, saying it did not authorise the downloads. The court also said that the country's third-largest internet provider did not have the technical ability to prevent the piracy. The unanimous ruling from the High Court upheld the lower court's decision. "The High Court held that the respondent, an internet service provider (ISP), had not authorised the infringement by its customers of the appellants' copyright in commercially released films and television programmes," the court stated. "Rather, the extent of iiNet's power to prevent its customers from infringing... copyright was limited to an indirect power to terminate its contractual relationship with its customers." The 2010 judgment was the first time a court had ruled on whether an ISP could be held responsible for copyright violations by its users. The case revolved around thousands of downloads over Perth-based iiNet's network in 2008 using a file-sharing programme. The Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft group, made up of 34 film, TV and music companies, had appealed the lower court decision, saying it set a dangerous precedent. The group's managing director, Neil Gane, was quoted by news agency Agence-France Presse as saying that the ruling exposed the failure of copyright law to keep pace with the online environment. "Both judgements in this case recognise that copyright law is no longer equipped to deal with the rate of technological change we have seen since the law of authorisation was last tested," he said. _________________________________________ reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city. 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Sala On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:02 PM, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:25:49 -0400 Subject: [governance] Obama unveils tech sanctions against Iran and Syria Message-ID: Dear All, Obama is reported to have launched sanctions against Iran and Syria, see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17817520 I was also at the Holocaust Museum on Saturday and as I went through the Exhibitions, I was intrigued by the "Propaganda exhibition". I was also fascinated to learn that in Iran, the Government tries to control how much access each individual gets by limiting their access so that there is no repeat of what happened in Egypt nor Tunisia. Kind Regards -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > Congratulations Louis! > > Sala > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Tue Apr 24 05:13:26 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:13:26 +0200 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included in the group. This is as it should have always been. avri "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: >Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >Geneva. > >Louis >- - - > >On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >-- >Cheers, > >On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Congratulations Louis! >> >> Sala >> >> -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Tue Apr 24 06:37:49 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:37:49 +0200 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F96827D.70602@apc.org> Congrats Louis! And I see that an APC colleague and pioneer of networking in Africa has also been inducted. Nancy Hafkin! http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/nancy-hafkin This is fantastic news... for many of us who joined/built the internet in Africa in the 1990s it was Nancy who made it possible. Certainly APC's work in Africa would not have been possible with her support during her years at the UN Economic Commission for Africa in Addis. Anriette On 24/04/12 11:13, Avri Doria wrote: > Hi, > > I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included in the group. > This is as it should have always been. > > avri > > > "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: > >> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >> Geneva. >> >> Louis >> - - - >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>> Sala >>> >>> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Tue Apr 24 06:39:33 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:39:33 +0200 Subject: [governance] Anonymous re-mailer server seized by the US Federal Authorities In-Reply-To: <4F9116A7.3040203@gmx.net> References: <4F911658.60504@gmx.net> <4F9116A7.3040203@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4F9682E5.9000906@apc.org> Hi all... for APC's pres statement on this go to: http://www.apc.org/en/news/apc-statement-progressive-internet-rights-organisa Best Anriette On 20/04/12 09:56, Norbert Klein wrote: > FYI > > https://help.riseup.net/en/seizure-2012-april > > > > Norbert Klein > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Tue Apr 24 06:47:31 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:47:31 -0300 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9684C3.5020509@cafonso.ca> I am extremely happy that my friend Louis finally gets proper recognition, and a bit sad that it took so long for this to happen. Grande Louis, um grande abraço! fraternal regards --c.a. On 04/23/2012 08:02 PM, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From qshatti at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 07:38:10 2012 From: qshatti at gmail.com (Qusai Al-Shatti) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:38:10 +0300 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulation Louis-Pouzin on this high recognition. Qusai AlShatti On 24/04/2012, at 2:02, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mueller at syr.edu Tue Apr 24 09:08:28 2012 From: mueller at syr.edu (Milton L Mueller) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:08:28 +0000 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21417FC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Congratulations, Louis Pouzin > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:02 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Tue Apr 24 10:00:41 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:00:41 +0000 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21417FC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> References: ,<855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21417FC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D13D3@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Louis, A well-deserved recognition of your seminal contributions, congrats! best, Lee PS: And, keep it up! ; ) ________________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Milton L Mueller [mueller at syr.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:08 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: RE: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! Congratulations, Louis Pouzin > -----Original Message----- > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:02 PM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fouadbajwa at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 10:07:54 2012 From: fouadbajwa at gmail.com (Fouad Bajwa) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:07:54 +0200 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D13D3@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21417FC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D13D3@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: I am happy to have witnessed the moment here in Geneva last night. Congratulations once again! On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > Louis, > > A well-deserved recognition of your seminal contributions, congrats! > > best, > > Lee > > PS: And, keep it up! ; ) > > ________________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Milton L Mueller [mueller at syr.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:08 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: RE: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > Congratulations, Louis Pouzin > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- >> request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim >> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:02 PM >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! >> >> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ginger at paque.net Tue Apr 24 10:08:20 2012 From: ginger at paque.net (Ginger Paque) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 09:38:20 -0430 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D13D3@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21417FC@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D13D3@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Agree--congratulations to you, and to ISOC for recognizing you/your work. Cheers! On 24 April 2012 09:30, Lee W McKnight wrote: > Louis, > > A well-deserved recognition of your seminal contributions, congrats! > > best, > > Lee > > PS: And, keep it up! ; ) > > ________________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [ > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Milton L Mueller [ > mueller at syr.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:08 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: RE: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > Congratulations, Louis Pouzin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance- > > request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of McTim > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:02 PM > > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > > > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. 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It was fun to meet old guard friends in Geneva. > > Louis > - - - > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > -- > Cheers, > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Congratulations Louis! > > Sala > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From sana.pryhod at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 10:54:00 2012 From: sana.pryhod at gmail.com (Oksana Prykhodko) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:54:00 +0300 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not in Geneva, but I congratulate you too! 24 апреля 2012 г. 17:17 пользователь Marie GEORGES написал: > > Happy for you Dearest Louis, > > We knew in France the HHistory, but not this marvelous picture ! > > Ì wish I was in Geneva... > see you soon > Marie > Le 24 avr. 2012 à 10:47, Louis Pouzin (well) a écrit : > > Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in Geneva. > > Louis > - - - > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > -- > Cheers, > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: >> >> Congratulations Louis! >> >> Sala >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Tue Apr 24 19:01:16 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:01:16 +0900 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to Louis and all our friends who received the recognition they very much deserve for. And to all who also supported their works, too. Izumi 2012年4月24日火曜日 McTim dogwallah at gmail.com: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > -- >> Izumi Aizu << Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, Japan * * * * * www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jon Postel > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ ACADEMIE DES TIC FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre At-Large Member NCSG Member email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net tél:+243998983491 skype:b.schombe wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Especially for being a pioneer who hasn't forgotten that much yet needs to be done to make sure that the Internet is technically and politically egalitarian :) On Tuesday 24 April 2012 04:32 AM, McTim wrote: > http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Wed Apr 25 05:35:05 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:05:05 +0530 Subject: [governance] Asia Pacific regional IGF - Tokyo, July In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F97C549.1090507@itforchange.net> Dear Izumi Can you proffer more information on who is organising this meeting, who is is funding it etc... In general, as you know, I am quite against policy dialogue forums (which I understand this meeting is supposed to be, taking from the UN IGF) being organised primarily by the business sector, especially when such a forum claims a monopoly and therefore authoritative position, which is implied in the name of 'the' 'Asia Pacific regional IGF'. Mine is a somewhat unpleasant task of raising what may appear to be difficult question with regard to sincere and hard work being put in by people like you and Peng Hwa, both of whom I greatly respect. But all of us, most of all civil society, must be subject to accountability and to hard questions when required. So, my apologies for that. However, I do request an open discussion on the subject here in the IGC. I do not think that you would much look forward to a time when the policies that determine what education our children will have, and how, will be determined by processes led by private companies in the business of digital content, educational software etc. Do you? Or, to a time when our health policies will be determined by processes led by big pharma companies and private hospital chains. However, what is being done in Internet governance today is precisely and inescapably leading us towards such a model of governance and policy making. To that extent, we will have to take responsibility for our actions. I am merely trying to take responsibility for mine in raising these questions at this time. And I look forward to your responses. Apologies once again if this is inconvenient and/ or an incursion on your busy time. regards, parminder On Friday 13 April 2012 06:51 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear list, > > Asia Pacific regional IGF, APrIGF, 2012 will be held in Tokyo, July 18 > - 20. > > The program committee is being organized and just starting its work. > We have not yet made the web-site for this year, but should be soon > prepared. > > If you are interested in participating in the organizing work or any other > Information, please contact me or Prof. Ang Peng Hwa, cced here. > To contact the local organizer, the secretariat, Japan Internet > Asociation, > JAIPA, please contact Mr. Toshiaki Tateishi, also cced here. > > Izumi > > > > -- > >> Izumi Aizu << > Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo > Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, > Japan > * * * * * > www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From parminder at itforchange.net Wed Apr 25 05:49:38 2012 From: parminder at itforchange.net (parminder) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:19:38 +0530 Subject: [governance] Asia Pacific regional IGF - Tokyo, July In-Reply-To: <4F97C549.1090507@itforchange.net> References: <4F97C549.1090507@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <4F97C8B2.5020007@itforchange.net> On Wednesday 25 April 2012 03:05 PM, parminder wrote: > snip > > In general, as you know, I am quite against policy dialogue forums > (which I understand this meeting is supposed to be, taking from the UN > IGF) being organised primarily by the business sector, especially when > such a forum claims a monopoly and therefore authoritative position, I am sure that many of you will know of the famous words of Adam Smith, the father of free market thinking, about the relationship between business and policy making. In any case, I will forward them since they seem so germane to the larger issue of my email. (Personally, I would not have been able to use the kind of strong words that Adam Smith uses, but he is an acknowledged master and who am I to stand between his words and you :) ) Quoting Adam Smith People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.... But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies, much less to render them necessary. (Adam Smith) Another one, To widen the market and to narrow the competition, is always the interest of the dealers...The proposal of any new law or regulation of commerce which comes from this order, ought always to be listened to with great precaution, and ought never to be adopted till after having been long and carefully examined, not only with the most scrupulous, but with the most suspicious attention. It comes from an order of men, whose interest is never exactly the same with that of the public, who have generally an interest to deceive and even oppress the public, and who accordingly have, upon many occasions, both deceived and oppressed it. (Adam Smith) > which is implied in the name of 'the' 'Asia Pacific regional IGF'. > > Mine is a somewhat unpleasant task of raising what may appear to be > difficult question with regard to sincere and hard work being put in > by people like you and Peng Hwa, both of whom I greatly respect. But > all of us, most of all civil society, must be subject to > accountability and to hard questions when required. So, my apologies > for that. However, I do request an open discussion on the subject here > in the IGC. > > I do not think that you would much look forward to a time when the > policies that determine what education our children will have, and > how, will be determined by processes led by private companies in the > business of digital content, educational software etc. Do you? Or, to > a time when our health policies will be determined by processes led by > big pharma companies and private hospital chains. However, what is > being done in Internet governance today is precisely and inescapably > leading us towards such a model of governance and policy making. To > that extent, we will have to take responsibility for our actions. I am > merely trying to take responsibility for mine in raising these > questions at this time. And I look forward to your responses. > Apologies once again if this is inconvenient and/ or an incursion on > your busy time. > > regards, parminder > > > > On Friday 13 April 2012 06:51 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> Asia Pacific regional IGF, APrIGF, 2012 will be held in Tokyo, July >> 18 - 20. >> >> The program committee is being organized and just starting its work. >> We have not yet made the web-site for this year, but should be soon >> prepared. >> >> If you are interested in participating in the organizing work or any >> other >> Information, please contact me or Prof. Ang Peng Hwa, cced here. >> To contact the local organizer, the secretariat, Japan Internet >> Asociation, >> JAIPA, please contact Mr. Toshiaki Tateishi, also cced here. >> >> Izumi >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Izumi Aizu << >> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo >> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, >> Japan >> * * * * * >> www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, - Carlton ________________________________________ From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU [iza at anr.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:15 PM To: governance Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi -- -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jhuns at vt.edu Wed Apr 25 09:19:07 2012 From: jhuns at vt.edu (jeremy hunsinger) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:19:07 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: <39D05A5FD7C1334DA749CCFCE8538F872585D174EA@xchg1.uwimona.edu.jm> References: , <39D05A5FD7C1334DA749CCFCE8538F872585D174EA@xchg1.uwimona.edu.jm> Message-ID: <984C4507-483B-496B-89AA-C56D858450B6@vt.edu> i can volunteer for nomcom too, count me in. On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:13 AM, SAMUELS,Carlton A wrote: > Dear Izumi: > Please consider me volunteered. I hope this will only add maybe 6 hours or so to my monthly effort. > > Best, > - Carlton > ________________________________________ > From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU [iza at anr.org] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:15 PM > To: governance > Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 > > Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), > and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five > more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. > > best, > > izumi > > ---------------- > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > -- > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t Jeremy Hunsinger Communication Studies Wilfrid Laurier University Center for Digital Discourse and Culture Virginia Tech () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.tmttlt.com You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. --Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From zeeshan_shoki at yahoo.com Wed Apr 25 09:36:35 2012 From: zeeshan_shoki at yahoo.com (Zeeshan shoki) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1335360995.27612.YahooMailClassic@web125801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I want to be volunteer.  RegardsZeeshan ShokiKarachi,Pakistan --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Izumi AIZU wrote: From: Izumi AIZU Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 To: "governance" Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:15 AM Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd Wed Apr 25 09:56:05 2012 From: shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd (Shahid Uddin Akbar) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:56:05 +0600 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: <1335360995.27612.YahooMailClassic@web125801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1335360995.27612.YahooMailClassic@web125801.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005201cd22eb$29524990$7bf6dcb0$@akbar@biid.org.bd> Count me as a Volunteer. Regards, Shahid Md Shahid Uddin Akbar Chief Executive Officer Bangladesh Institute of ICT in Development (BIID) House No. B 165, Road No. 23 Mohakhali DOHS, Dhaka 1206 Bangladesh Email: shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd Phone: +88 02 8714169 Cell: + 88 01819 243935 Fax: +88 02 8714168 Web: www.biid.org.bd From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Zeeshan shoki Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:37 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 I want to be volunteer. Regards Zeeshan Shoki Karachi,Pakistan --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Izumi AIZU wrote: From: Izumi AIZU Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 To: "governance" Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:15 AM Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lorna.tingu at yahoo.co.uk Wed Apr 25 11:35:23 2012 From: lorna.tingu at yahoo.co.uk (Lorna simiyu) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:35:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Message-ID: <1335368123.84664.YahooMailClassic@web132101.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Dear Izumi,   Greetings.   I wish to be a volunteer of  NomCom. Can you please inform me what is required of a volunteer.    Best regards,       Lorna Tingu Makuma (Mrs. Simiyu) Ministry of  Education and Sports P.O. 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Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > > -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, Naveed-ul-Haq From: iza at anr.org Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:15:49 +0900 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From devonrb at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 15:29:53 2012 From: devonrb at gmail.com (Devon Blake) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:29:53 -0400 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I am volunteering. Devon On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), > and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five > more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. > > best, > > izumi > > ---------------- > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom > candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > >> Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. >> >> Dr Jeremy Malcolm >> Iliya Bazlyankov >> Ginger Paque >> Charity Gamboa-Embley >> Sonigitu Ekpe >> Adam Peake >> Kerry Brown >> Ian Peter >> Thomas Lowenhaupt >> Baudouin Schombe >> Sunil Abraham >> Shaila Mistry >> Wilson Abigaba >> Dixie Hawtin >> Julián Casasbuenas G. >> >> 10 more to go by the end of April. >> Please consider yourself. >> >> izumi >> > > > -- > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Devon Blake Special Projects Director Earthwise Solutions Limited 29 Dominica Drive Kgn 5 ,Phone: Office 876-968-4534, Mobile, 876-589-6369 To be kind, To be helpful, To network *Earthwise ... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From Guru at ITforChange.net Wed Apr 25 16:09:50 2012 From: Guru at ITforChange.net (Guru) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:39:50 +0530 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F985A0E.3080407@ITforChange.net> Izumi Pl add my name as a volunteer Guru > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Izumi AIZU > wrote: > > Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), > and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five > more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. > > best, > > izumi > > ---------------- > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for > NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > > -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Great challenge, great opportunity, great responsibility. IGC should do its best to help and support. BTW, eight out of the 56 MAG members are former fellows or faculty members from the Meissen Summer School on Internet Governance (SSIG). wolfgang ________________________________ Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Fouad Bajwa Gesendet: Mi 25.04.2012 23:34 An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Betreff: [governance] New MAG announced Dear All, The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm List of MAG http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and support the new MAG members. Take care all! -- Regards. -------------------------- Fouad Bajwa ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Wed Apr 25 18:02:50 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:02:50 -0300 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F98748A.3030706@cafonso.ca> Congrats to the new MAG. I am especially happy and proud for Graciela, the only representative from Brazil, from Instituto Nupef, where I have the privilege to work with her. fraternal regards --c.a. On 04/25/2012 06:34 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > Dear All, > > The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > > A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is > available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > > List of MAG > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > > I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. > It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated > by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and > support the new MAG members. > > Take care all! > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Wed Apr 25 20:58:55 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:58:55 +0900 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released Message-ID: Dear list, IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. All the best, Izumi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And thank you to those who served before Deirdre On 25 April 2012 20:58, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear list, > > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better > communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society > engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and > outcomes with my colleagues. > > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I > sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > > All the best, > > Izumi > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-04-25, at 8:58 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear list, > > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. > > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > > All the best, > > Izumi > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards,Madeeha Rehman From: iza at anr.org Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:15:49 +0900 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From odamyte at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 03:52:11 2012 From: odamyte at gmail.com (Jake Odame) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:52:11 +0000 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A04813A-D51E-4C06-837B-F13D56A98A40@gmail.com> Consider me a volunteer. Jacob Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:15 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), > and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five > more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. > > best, > > izumi > > ---------------- > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > Izumi > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > -- > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Imran ------------------------------ On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 5:58 AM PKT Izumi AIZU wrote: >Dear list, > >IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: >http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > >I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better >communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society >engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and >outcomes with my colleagues. > >Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely >ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > >All the best, > >Izumi -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com Thu Apr 26 04:13:16 2012 From: siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com (Siranush Vardanyan) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:13:16 +0000 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations to all selected MAG members. Wish you success with this challenging but important position. Best Siranush Siranush Vardanyan Armenia From: iza at anr.org Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:58:55 +0900 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released Dear list, IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. All the best, Izumi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From qshatti at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 05:31:40 2012 From: qshatti at gmail.com (Qusai AlShatti) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:31:40 +0300 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Fouad and All: I would like to congratulate all the my colleagues from IGC who were selected as MAG members. As for you Fouad, I had the privelage to work with you and coordinate together CS positions. You were genuine in your views and in defending CS stance. I look forward to work with you in the future. Regards,, Qusai AlShatti On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > Dear All, > > The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > > A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is > available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > > List of MAG > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > > I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. > It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated > by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and > support the new MAG members. > > Take care all! > > -- > Regards. > -------------------------- > Fouad Bajwa > ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor > My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ > Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tracyhackshaw at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 06:33:45 2012 From: tracyhackshaw at gmail.com (Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:33:45 -0400 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great to some familiar faces and some new ones. Congrats to all selected, and thanks to all who have served previously. Rgds, Tracy On Apr 26, 2012 4:14 AM, "Siranush Vardanyan" < siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com> wrote: > Congratulations to all selected MAG members. Wish you success with > this challenging but important position. > > Best > > Siranush > > Siranush Vardanyan > Armenia > > ------------------------------ > From: iza at anr.org > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:58:55 +0900 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released > > Dear list, > > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better > communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society > engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and > outcomes with my colleagues. > > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I > sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > > All the best, > > Izumi > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aminou TITA SG ISOC Cameroon Aminou Ndala TITAP.O Box 963Bamenda- NorthWest RegionCameroon Tel.+237 77364416 E-mail: aminou20022001 at yahoo.com               --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Shahid Uddin Akbar wrote: From: Shahid Uddin Akbar Subject: RE: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "'Zeeshan shoki'" , "'Izumi AIZU'" Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 9:56 AM Count me as a Volunteer.   Regards, Shahid   Md Shahid Uddin Akbar Chief Executive Officer Bangladesh Institute of ICT in Development (BIID) House No. B 165, Road No. 23 Mohakhali DOHS, Dhaka 1206 Bangladesh   Email: shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd Phone: +88 02 8714169 Cell: + 88 01819 243935 Fax: +88 02 8714168 Web: www.biid.org.bd   From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Zeeshan shoki Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:37 PM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25   I want to be volunteer.    Regards Zeeshan Shoki Karachi,Pakistan --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Izumi AIZU wrote: From: Izumi AIZU Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 To: "governance" Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:15 AM Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 07:11:29 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:11:29 -0400 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear All, Warm Greetings from Washington D.C! Congratulations to all those that were appointed into the MAG. There is alot of work to be done, without a doubt. I can see that the MAG is diverse and populated with experts and it is great to see wide geographical coverage. For those who did not make it, please consider applying next time. We would call upon the IGC to give our support to the MAG members. There is alot of work that needs to be done and all hands are needed on deck. Kind Regards, Sala On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw at gmail.com> wrote: > Great to some familiar faces and some new ones. > > Congrats to all selected, and thanks to all who have served previously. > > Rgds, > > Tracy > On Apr 26, 2012 4:14 AM, "Siranush Vardanyan" < > siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Congratulations to all selected MAG members. Wish you success with >> this challenging but important position. >> >> Best >> >> Siranush >> >> Siranush Vardanyan >> Armenia >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: iza at anr.org >> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:58:55 +0900 >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released >> >> Dear list, >> >> IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- >> >> I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better >> communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society >> engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and >> outcomes with my colleagues. >> >> Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I >> sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. >> >> All the best, >> >> Izumi >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From isolatednet at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 07:25:44 2012 From: isolatednet at gmail.com (Sivasubramanian M) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:55:44 +0530 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCBDD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> References: <2DA93620FC07494C926D60C8E3C2F1A8010CCBDD@server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de> Message-ID: Dear Wolfgang, Congratulations to those elected graduates of the Summer School and Congratulations to the IGC nominees. It is a good development to see more and more members who have undergone a well designed curriculum on Internet Governance, which is an indication of more and more people with the right perspectives taking roles in main stream Internet Governance. Sivasubramanian M Internet Society India Chennai On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:22 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" < wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote: > Congratulations to all our people who have made its way to the MAG. Great > challenge, great opportunity, great responsibility. IGC should do its best > to help and support. BTW, eight out of the 56 MAG members are former > fellows or faculty members from the Meissen Summer School on Internet > Governance (SSIG). > > wolfgang > > ________________________________ > > Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Fouad Bajwa > Gesendet: Mi 25.04.2012 23:34 > An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Betreff: [governance] New MAG announced > > > > Dear All, > > The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > > A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is > available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > > List of MAG > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > > I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. > It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated > by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and > support the new MAG members. > > Take care all! > > -- > Regards. > -------------------------- > Fouad Bajwa > ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor > My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ > Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mawaki On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > Hello Great Fellow, > > Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all great > things. > > Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! > > > -- > Sonigitu Ekpe > Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] > Cross River Farm Credit Scheme > Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources > 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 > Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. > Mobile +234 805 0232 469    Office + 234 802 751 0179 >  "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > > Avri Doria wrote: > > Hi, > > I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included > in the group. > This is as it should have always been. > > avri > > > "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: > >>Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>Geneva. >> >>Louis >>- - - >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >>http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>-- >>Cheers, >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>> Sala >>> >>> > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you > are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this > information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly destroy this > message and notify the sender by replying the email in such instances. We do > not accept responsibility for any changes made to this message after it was > originally sent and any views, opinions, conclusions or other information in > this message which do not relate to the business of this firm or are not > authorized by us.The Cross River State Government is not liable neither for > the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this > communication nor any delay in its receipt. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From lmcknigh at syr.edu Thu Apr 26 08:42:14 2012 From: lmcknigh at syr.edu (Lee W McKnight) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:42:14 +0000 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: References: <1335436092936455500@crossriverstate.gov.ng>, Message-ID: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." best, Lee McKnight ________________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [kichango at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. Mawaki On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > Hello Great Fellow, > > Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all great > things. > > Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! > > > -- > Sonigitu Ekpe > Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] > Cross River Farm Credit Scheme > Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources > 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 > Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. > Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 > "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > > Avri Doria wrote: > > Hi, > > I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included > in the group. > This is as it should have always been. > > avri > > > "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: > >>Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>Geneva. >> >>Louis >>- - - >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >>http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>-- >>Cheers, >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>> Sala >>> >>> > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you > are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this > information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly destroy this > message and notify the sender by replying the email in such instances. 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In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <1335436092936455500@crossriverstate.gov.ng> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: Isn't it nice that there are so many things to say congratulations about? Good news for a change. Deirdre On 26 April 2012 08:42, Lee W McKnight wrote: > And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - > Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful > defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. > Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." > > best, > > Lee McKnight > ________________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [ > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [ > kichango at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep > sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. > > Mawaki > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe > wrote: > > Hello Great Fellow, > > > > Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all > great > > things. > > > > Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! > > > > > > -- > > Sonigitu Ekpe > > Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] > > Cross River Farm Credit Scheme > > Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources > > 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 > > Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. > > Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 > > "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > > > > Avri Doria wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you > included > > in the group. > > This is as it should have always been. > > > > avri > > > > > > "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: > > > >>Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in > >>Geneva. > >> > >>Louis > >>- - - > >> > >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: > >>http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > >>-- > >>Cheers, > >> > >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > >>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Congratulations Louis! > >>> > >>> Sala > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > The information contained in this communication is confidential and may > be > > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual > or > > entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If > you > > are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, > > copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of > this > > information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vladar at diplomacy.edu Thu Apr 26 09:12:58 2012 From: vladar at diplomacy.edu (Vladimir Radunovic) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:12:58 +0200 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear colleagues, being also a new MAG member, let me join Izumi's words that we will act as a proxy of the CS views to MAG. It is interesting and challinging time ahead of us, and we will need lots of cooperation, patience and mutual understanding. Will be pleasure to serve CS in MAG. Best, Vlada On Thursday, April 26, 2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear list, > > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > All the best, > Izumi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But if we use our imaginations, our possibilities become limitless” NAME: VINCENT SOLOMON ALIAMA CONTACT: +256 773307045 / +256 713307045 / +256 753307045 EMAIL:aliama.vincent at cit.mak.ac.ug / vinsolo15 at yahoo.co.uk /vinsoloster at gmail.com Skype : vinsolo2 --- On Wed, 25/4/12, Guru wrote: From: Guru Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Date: Wednesday, 25 April, 2012, 21:09 Izumi Pl add my name as a volunteer Guru On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. best, izumi ---------------- A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! Izumi 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. Dr Jeremy Malcolm Iliya Bazlyankov Ginger Paque Charity Gamboa-Embley Sonigitu Ekpe Adam Peake Kerry Brown Ian Peter Thomas Lowenhaupt Baudouin Schombe Sunil Abraham Shaila Mistry Wilson Abigaba Dixie Hawtin Julián Casasbuenas G. 10 more to go by the end of April. Please consider yourself. izumi -- -----Inline Attachment Follows----- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:      governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:      http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:      http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:      http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From caribe at entropia.blog.br Thu Apr 26 10:07:58 2012 From: caribe at entropia.blog.br (Joao Carlos Caribe) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:07:58 -0300 Subject: [governance] MAG renewal just released In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F80AF3C-E532-4666-B280-1F2193702C2C@entropia.blog.br> Congratulations to all new members of MAG Em 25/04/2012, às 21:58, Izumi AIZU escreveu: > Dear list, > > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. > > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > > All the best, > > Izumi > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- João Carlos Caribé Publicitário e Consultor de mídias sociais http://entropia.blog.br caribe at entropia.blog.br twitter @caribe / skype joaocaribe (21) 8761 1967 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? Best, Tom Lowenhaupt On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." > > best, > > Lee McKnight > ________________________________________ > From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [kichango at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > > Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep > sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. > > Mawaki > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe > wrote: >> Hello Great Fellow, >> >> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all great >> things. >> >> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! >> >> >> -- >> Sonigitu Ekpe >> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] >> Cross River Farm Credit Scheme >> Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources >> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 >> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. >> Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 >> "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >> >> Avri Doria wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included >> in the group. >> This is as it should have always been. >> >> avri >> >> >> "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: >> >>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>> Geneva. >>> >>> Louis >>> - - - >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro< >>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Congratulations Louis! >>>> >>>> Sala >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be >> legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or >> entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you >> are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >> copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this >> information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Anriette On 26/04/12 16:32, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: > Congratulations Dr. Chango. > > Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? > > Best, > > Tom Lowenhaupt > > On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: >> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." >> >> best, >> >> Lee McKnight >> ________________________________________ >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org ] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [kichango at gmail.com ] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! >> >> Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep >> sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. >> >> Mawaki >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe >> wrote: >>> Hello Great Fellow, >>> >>> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all great >>> things. >>> >>> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sonigitu Ekpe >>> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] >>> Cross River Farm Credit Scheme >>> Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources >>> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 >>> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. >>> Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 >>> "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >>> >>> Avri Doria wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included >>> in the group. >>> This is as it should have always been. >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>>> Geneva. >>>> >>>> Louis >>>> - - - >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >>>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Congratulations Louis! >>>>> >>>>> Sala >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________________________ >>> The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be >>> legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or >>> entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you >>> are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, >>> copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this >>> information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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We do >>> not accept responsibility for any changes made to this message after it was >>> originally sent and any views, opinions, conclusions or other information in >>> this message which do not relate to the business of this firm or are not >>> authorized by us.The Cross River State Government is not liable neither for >>> the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this >>> communication nor any delay in its receipt. >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Thu Apr 26 10:51:20 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:51:20 +0200 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: <1335438002.59966.YahooMailClassic@web43138.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <1335438002.59966.YahooMailClassic@web43138.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F9960E8.3080001@apc.org> Dear Izumi I am also happy to volunteer if you still need people. Anriette On 26/04/12 13:00, Aminou Ndala TITA wrote: > Hello > > I will like to be a volunteer. > > Aminou TITA > SG ISOC Cameroon > > /Aminou Ndala TITA/ > > P.O Box 963 > > Bamenda- NorthWest Region > > Cameroon > > Tel.+237 77364416 > > E-mail: aminou20022001 at yahoo.com > > > > > > > --- On *Wed, 4/25/12, Shahid Uddin Akbar //* > wrote: > > > From: Shahid Uddin Akbar > Subject: RE: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 > To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "'Zeeshan shoki'" > , "'Izumi AIZU'" > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 9:56 AM > > Count me as a Volunteer. > > > > Regards, > > Shahid > > > > *Md Shahid Uddin Akbar* > > Chief Executive Officer > > Bangladesh Institute of ICT in Development (BIID) > > House No. B 165, Road No. 23 > > Mohakhali DOHS, Dhaka 1206 > > Bangladesh > > > > Email: shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd > > Phone: +88 02 8714169 > > Cell: + 88 01819 243935 > > Fax: +88 02 8714168 > > Web: www.biid.org.bd > > > > *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org > [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of > *Zeeshan shoki > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:37 PM > *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU > *Subject:* Re: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 > > > > I want to be volunteer. > > > > Regards > > Zeeshan Shoki > > Karachi,Pakistan > > --- On *Wed, 4/25/12, Izumi AIZU //* wrote: > > > From: Izumi AIZU > Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 > To: "governance" > Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:15 AM > > Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), > and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five > more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. > > best, > > izumi > > ---------------- > > A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for > NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! > > > Izumi > > > 2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: > > Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. > > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Iliya Bazlyankov > Ginger Paque > Charity Gamboa-Embley > Sonigitu Ekpe > Adam Peake > Kerry Brown > Ian Peter > Thomas Lowenhaupt > Baudouin Schombe > Sunil Abraham > Shaila Mistry > Wilson Abigaba > Dixie Hawtin > Julián Casasbuenas G. > > 10 more to go by the end of April. > Please consider yourself. > > izumi > > > > -- > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 11:26:55 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:26:55 -0400 Subject: [governance] Dr. Mawaki Chango In-Reply-To: <4F99607A.9090400@apc.org> References: <1335436092936455500@crossriverstate.gov.ng> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <4F995C6E.1020207@communisphere.com> <4F99607A.9090400@apc.org> Message-ID: Congratulations Dr Mawaki... Sala On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Fantastic news Mawaki! > > Well done. > > Anriette > > > On 26/04/12 16:32, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: > > Congratulations Dr. Chango. > > > > Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? > > > > Best, > > > > Tom Lowenhaupt > > > > On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: > >> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - > Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful > defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. > Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." > >> > >> best, > >> > >> Lee McKnight > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org> [ > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org>] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [ > kichango at gmail.com ] > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM > >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > >> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! > >> > >> Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep > >> sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. > >> > >> Mawaki > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe > >> sonigituekpe at crossriverstate.gov.ng> wrote: > >>> Hello Great Fellow, > >>> > >>> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all > great > >>> things. > >>> > >>> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sonigitu Ekpe > >>> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] > >>> Cross River Farm Credit Scheme > >>> Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources > >>> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 > >>> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. > >>> Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 > >>> "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > >>> > >>> Avri Doria wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you > included > >>> in the group. > >>> This is as it should have always been. > >>> > >>> avri > >>> > >>> > >>> "Louis Pouzin (well)" > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in > >>>> Geneva. > >>>> > >>>> Louis > >>>> - - - > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin > >>>> -- > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < > >>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Congratulations Louis! > >>>>> > >>>>> Sala > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________________________________ > >>> The information contained in this communication is confidential and > may be > >>> legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the > individual or > >>> entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If > you > >>> are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, > >>> copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of > this > >>> information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly destroy > this > >>> message and notify the sender by replying the email in such instances. > We do > >>> not accept responsibility for any changes made to this message after > it was > >>> originally sent and any views, opinions, conclusions or other > information in > >>> this message which do not relate to the business of this firm or are > not > >>> authorized by us.The Cross River State Government is not liable > neither for > >>> the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in > this > >>> communication nor any delay in its receipt. > >>> > >>> ____________________________________________________________ > >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org governance at lists.igcaucus.org> > >>> To be removed from the list, visit: > >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >>> > >>> For all other list information and functions, see: > >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >>> > >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >>> > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org > executive director, association for progressive communications > www.apc.org > po box 29755, melville 2109 > south africa > tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Thu Apr 26 11:33:19 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:33:19 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , at 23:34:26 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Fouad Bajwa writes >A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm So we have a significant rotation (33 of 56) although not quite two-thirds (that would be 37). Of the original members from 2006, nine remain. From that cohort we say goodbye to Ayaz Bayramov, Daniel Dardailler, Bill Graham, Jeanette Hofmann, Michael Katundu, George Papadatos and Emily Taylor. Once again nine remain from the cohort of 2007 with nine retiring (I won't list them all). The biggest turnover is from the 2009 cohort, with only five remaining and fifteen taking their leave. 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I think I/we forget sometimes that our (the rest of us, who are not on the MAG) responsibility does not end here. I hope we give the new MAG clear input on what we want from them and from the IGF, here on the IGC list, through the IGF consultations and website, and using all of the resources that we have at our disposal. I know that I get caught up in other work, and often do not make the time to do my part. I hope to do better this year. Good luck and energy to all! Cheers, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu Diplo Foundation Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme www.diplomacy.edu/ig *The latest from Diplo....*New call for applications for Internet governance thematic courses: Infrastructure, Cybersecurity, E-participation, IPR and more http://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/call-applications-advanced-courses-internet-governance ** On 26 April 2012 11:03, Roland Perry wrote: > In message zEMA at mail.gmail.com>, > at 23:34:26 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Fouad Bajwa writes > >> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >> available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/**docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >> > > So we have a significant rotation (33 of 56) although not quite two-thirds > (that would be 37). > > Of the original members from 2006, nine remain. From that cohort we say > goodbye to Ayaz Bayramov, Daniel Dardailler, Bill Graham, Jeanette Hofmann, > Michael Katundu, George Papadatos and Emily Taylor. > > Once again nine remain from the cohort of 2007 with nine retiring (I won't > list them all). > > The biggest turnover is from the 2009 cohort, with only five remaining and > fifteen taking their leave. > > (2008 and 2011 saw only very minor changes). > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From cveraq at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 13:17:54 2012 From: cveraq at gmail.com (Carlos Vera) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:17:54 -0500 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 Carlos Vera 2012/4/26 Ginger Paque : > I thank everyone who put their name forward for MAG nominations, and > supported this process. > Congrats to everyone who participated in any way, and good luck to the new > MAG. > > I think I/we forget sometimes that our (the rest of us, who are not on the > MAG) responsibility does not end here. I hope we give the new MAG clear > input on what we want from them and from the IGF, here on the IGC list, > through the IGF consultations and website, and using all of the resources > that we have at our disposal. I know that I get caught up in other work, and > often do not make the time to do my part. I hope to do better this year. > > Good luck and energy to all! > Cheers, > Ginger > > > Ginger (Virginia) Paque > > VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu > Diplo Foundation > Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme > www.diplomacy.edu/ig > The latest from Diplo....New call for applications for Internet governance > thematic courses: Infrastructure, Cybersecurity, E-participation, IPR and > more > http://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/call-applications-advanced-courses-internet-governance > > > > On 26 April 2012 11:03, Roland Perry > wrote: >> >> In message >> , at >> 23:34:26 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Fouad Bajwa writes >>> >>> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >>> available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >> >> >> So we have a significant rotation (33 of 56) although not quite two-thirds >> (that would be 37). >> >> Of the original members from 2006, nine remain. From that cohort we say >> goodbye to Ayaz Bayramov, Daniel Dardailler, Bill Graham, Jeanette Hofmann, >> Michael Katundu, George Papadatos and Emily Taylor. >> >> Once again nine remain from the cohort of 2007 with nine retiring (I won't >> list them all). >> >> The biggest turnover is from the 2009 cohort, with only five remaining and >> fifteen taking their leave. >> >> (2008 and 2011 saw only very minor changes). >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From devonrb at gmail.com Thu Apr 26 13:18:19 2012 From: devonrb at gmail.com (devonrb at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:18:19 +0000 Subject: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! In-Reply-To: <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> References: <1335436092936455500@crossriverstate.gov.ng> , <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> Message-ID: <1148064686-1335460702-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-939624311-@b5.c6.bise6.blackberry> I am adding my congratulations to the new MAG, with special reference to IGF members who were selected, I will give my full support to you all for the year ahead and hope to significantly contribute to the further development of the IGF. Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -----Original Message----- From: Lee W McKnight Sender: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:42:14 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Mawaki Chango Reply-To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org,Lee W McKnight Subject: RE: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." best, Lee McKnight ________________________________________ From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of Mawaki Chango [kichango at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. Mawaki On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe wrote: > Hello Great Fellow, > > Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all great > things. > > Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! > > > -- > Sonigitu Ekpe > Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] > Cross River Farm Credit Scheme > Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources > 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 > Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. > Mobile +234 805 0232 469 Office + 234 802 751 0179 > "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" > > Avri Doria wrote: > > Hi, > > I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you included > in the group. > This is as it should have always been. > > avri > > > "Louis Pouzin (well)" wrote: > >>Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>Geneva. >> >>Louis >>- - - >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim wrote: >>http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>-- >>Cheers, >> >>On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>> Sala >>> >>> > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you > are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this > information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Kindly destroy this > message and notify the sender by replying the email in such instances. We do > not accept responsibility for any changes made to this message after it was > originally sent and any views, opinions, conclusions or other information in > this message which do not relate to the business of this firm or are not > authorized by us.The Cross River State Government is not liable neither for > the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this > communication nor any delay in its receipt. > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Thu Apr 26 13:59:33 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:59:33 +0200 Subject: [governance] Caves Ouvert in Geneva Message-ID: <6B2EC835-C175-48D6-AAB5-F6B5359CC335@uzh.ch> Hi A bit off topic but some IGFers have enjoyed this previously, so just quickly before I forget: Anyone coming to Geneva in May for the IGF/WSIS Forum/CSTD and planning on flying in Sunday-Monday 13-14 may want to consider that the annual Caves Ouvert wine festival will be Saturday 12th this year. 90 wineries and a cast of thousands, pretty nice day if the weather is good. http://www.opage.ch/EN/documents/ComingUpCaveouvertestexte.pdf Bill *************************************************** William J. 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It is interesting and challinging time ahead of us, and we will need lots of cooperation, patience and mutual understanding. Will be pleasure to serve CS in MAG. Best,   Vlada On Thursday, April 26, 2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear list,  >   > IGF multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has been renewed: > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/941-mag-2012- > I am one of the new members, now. Will do my best to facilitate better communication between CS IGC and MAG, to further enhance civil society engagement to the IGF, and improve IGF's multistakeholder works and outcomes with my colleagues. > Being a co-coordinator of IGC, it will be a good challenge, and I sincerely ask you for continued support, critiques, and understanding. > All the best, > Izumi ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list:     governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit:     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see:     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:     http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The debate in the "Hill" [US Congress] is happening and it's live.The Intelligence Committee Chairman is saiying that it is just about sharing bad source code and that it is not about "surveillance" nor invasion of privacy. It is estimated threats cost the US $300 billion per annum. The challenges that are being debated are threats to civil liberties. Kind Regards, Sala -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To all those who have expressed interest in reading my work, I'll keep you updated once ready for distribution. Mawaki On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Congratulations Dr Mawaki... > > Sala > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen > wrote: >> >> Fantastic news Mawaki! >> >> Well done. >> >> Anriette >> >> >> On 26/04/12 16:32, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: >> > Congratulations Dr. Chango. >> > >> > Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Tom Lowenhaupt >> > >> > On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: >> >> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - >> >> Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense >> >> yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, >> >> Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." >> >> >> >> best, >> >> >> >> Lee McKnight >> >> ________________________________________ >> >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> >> >> >> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >> >> ] on behalf of Mawaki Chango >> >> [kichango at gmail.com ] >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM >> >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! >> >> >> >> Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep >> >> sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. >> >> >> >> Mawaki >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Great Fellow, >> >>> >> >>> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all >> >>> great >> >>> things. >> >>> >> >>> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Sonigitu Ekpe >> >>> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] >> >>> Cross River Farm Credit Scheme >> >>> Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources >> >>> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 >> >>> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. >> >>> Mobile +234 805 0232 469    Office + 234 802 751 0179 >> >>>  "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >> >>> >> >>> Avri Doria wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you >> >>> included >> >>> in the group. >> >>> This is as it should have always been. >> >>> >> >>> avri >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> "Louis Pouzin (well)" >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >> >>>> Geneva. >> >>>> >> >>>> Louis >> >>>> - - - >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >> >>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Congratulations Louis! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Sala >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> __________________________________________________________________________ >> >>> The information contained in this communication is confidential and >> >>> may be >> >>> legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the >> >>> individual or >> >>> entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. 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Kindly destroy >> >>> this >> >>> message and notify the sender by replying the email in such instances. >> >>> We do >> >>> not accept responsibility for any changes made to this message after >> >>> it was >> >>> originally sent and any views, opinions, conclusions or other >> >>> information in >> >>> this message which do not relate to the business of this firm or are >> >>> not >> >>> authorized by us.The Cross River State Government is not liable >> >>> neither for >> >>> the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in >> >>> this >> >>> communication nor any delay in its receipt. >> >>> >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> >>> >> >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >> >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >>> >> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >> >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >>> >> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >>> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org >> executive director, association for progressive communications >> www.apc.org >> po box 29755, melville 2109 >> south africa >> tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Thu Apr 26 20:27:11 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:27:11 +0900 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Again thanks for your support. And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" from all members. izumi 2012/4/27 Carlos Vera : > +1 > > Carlos Vera > > 2012/4/26 Ginger Paque : >> I thank everyone who put their name forward for MAG nominations, and >> supported this process. >> Congrats to everyone who participated in any way, and good luck to the new >> MAG. >> >> I think I/we forget sometimes that our (the rest of us, who are not on the >> MAG) responsibility does not end here. I hope we give the new MAG clear >> input on what we want from them and from the IGF, here on the IGC list, >> through the IGF consultations and website, and using all of the resources >> that we have at our disposal. I know that I get caught up in other work, and >> often do not make the time to do my part. I hope to do better this year. >> >> Good luck and energy to all! >> Cheers, >> Ginger >> >> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque >> >> VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu >> Diplo Foundation >> Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme >> www.diplomacy.edu/ig >> The latest from Diplo....New call for applications for Internet governance >> thematic courses: Infrastructure, Cybersecurity, E-participation, IPR and >> more >> http://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/call-applications-advanced-courses-internet-governance >> >> >> >> On 26 April 2012 11:03, Roland Perry >> wrote: >>> >>> In message >>> , at >>> 23:34:26 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Fouad Bajwa writes >>>> >>>> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >>>> available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >>> >>> >>> So we have a significant rotation (33 of 56) although not quite two-thirds >>> (that would be 37). >>> >>> Of the original members from 2006, nine remain. From that cohort we say >>> goodbye to Ayaz Bayramov, Daniel Dardailler, Bill Graham, Jeanette Hofmann, >>> Michael Katundu, George Papadatos and Emily Taylor. >>> >>> Once again nine remain from the cohort of 2007 with nine retiring (I won't >>> list them all). >>> >>> The biggest turnover is from the 2009 cohort, with only five remaining and >>> fifteen taking their leave. >>> >>> (2008 and 2011 saw only very minor changes). >>> -- >>> Roland Perry >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From iza at anr.org Thu Apr 26 20:30:30 2012 From: iza at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 09:30:30 +0900 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? Message-ID: I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May 18. I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for the MAG meeting Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. Thanks, izumi -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Thu Apr 26 21:03:46 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:03:46 -0400 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Izumi, I'll be in Geneva May 13-18 to attend the WSIS Forum & The IGF MAG consultations. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-04-26, at 8:30 PM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF > MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop > on May 18. > > I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare > for the MAG meeting > > Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, > when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, > Monday. > > Thanks, > > izumi > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best, Bernard. - Bernard SADAKA On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF > MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop > on May 18. > > I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare > for the MAG meeting > > Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, > when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, > Monday. > > Thanks, > > izumi > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Parminder On Thursday 26 April 2012 03:04 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > Dear All, > > The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > > A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is > available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > > List of MAG > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > > I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. > It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated > by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and > support the new MAG members. > > Take care all! > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Fri Apr 27 07:07:19 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:07:19 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9A5F1F.3090806@itforchange.net> References: <4F9A5F1F.3090806@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <83E36995-9CEB-4788-87F0-E0F72858F901@uzh.ch> Thanks Parminder. It should be noted that in addition to these IGC types there are others on the new MAG who could be counted as CS as well, certainly in viewpoint and arguably in employment. Overall, I'd think the mix is pretty good with respect to advocating the sorts of priorities that have enjoyed rough consensus here. Best, Bill On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:55 AM, parminder wrote: > Congratulations to Izumi, Anriette, Bill and Vladi. > > Together with Graciela, Valeria and Qusai, they form a good team. > > > Parminder > > On Thursday 26 April 2012 03:04 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. >> >> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >> available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >> >> List of MAG >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- >> >> I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. >> It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated >> by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and >> support the new MAG members. >> >> Take care all! >> >> > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 27 07:35:06 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:35:06 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , at 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes >And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage >between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" >from all members. How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's always been the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to secrecy is understandable. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Fri Apr 27 07:49:28 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:49:28 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Message-ID: <4F9A87C8.1040606@cafonso.ca> And the so-called "glitch" continues to haunt Icann... --c.a. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:06:25 -0700 From: Glen de Saint Géry To: liaison6c http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-26apr12-en.htm TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Statement by Akram Atallah, COO 26 April 2012 Many users have expressed concern that they are currently unable to view their applications in the TLD application system that has been temporarily suspended due to a technical issue. We can confirm that when the application system reopens, users will be able to review their applications, including those already submitted, to assure themselves that their information remains as they intended. We expect that demands on the system will be high when it reopens, and we are enhancing system performance as part of our preparations for the reopening. Ongoing testing continues to show that this issue did not cause any loss or corruption of user data. Please check our website regularly for updates. Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 07:53:17 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:53:17 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <83E36995-9CEB-4788-87F0-E0F72858F901@uzh.ch> References: <4F9A5F1F.3090806@itforchange.net> <83E36995-9CEB-4788-87F0-E0F72858F901@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <4F9A88AD.4020109@eff.org> Yes, I'm also very happy with CS representation!!!. I feel very comfortable with the current representatives, especially our reps from Latin America : ) Congratulations all!! I do like the fact that we had a significant rotation. It is really healthy to have this type of rotations in these structures to avoid power-grab. In this sense, it would be important to understand the reasoning of why the IGF Secretariat and UN NY decided to rotate less persons from the 2006 original MAG members list. It does not make sense to me but may be there are a good argument out there. It would be good to identify who are those persons (at least for curiosity). It might help us understand the reasoning behind that decision. I also find interesting to see Wendy Seltzer, while representing the tech community? (or new job) ?, she is definitely a crucial player on privacy/law enforcement/civil liberties and copyright issues. This is quite important because there are new representatives for both NGOS working on computer crime (not civil liberties) and new representatives from the copyright holders lobbyist. It might make the MAG's work more fun. As per me, it was my pleasure to work with the MAG. As explained to some of you, I decided to stop participating in the MAG (my reason for not running again, etc) was more focused on the role we want EFF to play in the MAG as an outsider rather than insider within the MAG. However, I did my best to make sure civil liberties are well covered in the SOP session and others sessions whenever possible in my last 3 years. I enjoyed working with my MAG civil society peers and to gain a good understanding of how the system works from the inside. With this knowledge, I hope to be more active from the outside, blogging and raising awareness of the issues that we would like to bring to the IGF. If you allow me to make some suggestions: Civil society MAG members should *try* ensure that the judgments of the MAG from other stakeholder groups are objectives. In the past, discussions were held in small working groups and you were able to learn the thoughts of others (especially when they suggest a merger or that a workshop does not comply with a certain requirements). It is important for our civil society MAG members to ensure that workshops that comply with the requirements published on the IGF site and bring a controversial topic to the debate are being approved (and try to ensure that any suggested merger make sense and it is not used to water down the controversial discussion). There will be always arguments from both side so you might need to take a position. Any assessment of the workshops should focuses only on those rules that are published online (and avoid having the MAG creating new rules that people who are not MAG members not are in Geneva) will know. The MAG shouldn't applied rules that are not public on the website (of course, there might be exceptions but I can't think of anything right now). I'll be in Geneva for the WSIS meeting and will go to the open consultation. I'll love to transfer some tips to those civil society mag members. All the best, Katitza On 4/27/12 1:07 PM, William Drake wrote: > Thanks Parminder. It should be noted that in addition to these IGC > types there are others on the new MAG who could be counted as CS as > well, certainly in viewpoint and arguably in employment. Overall, I'd > think the mix is pretty good with respect to advocating the sorts of > priorities that have enjoyed rough consensus here. > > Best, > > Bill > > On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:55 AM, parminder wrote: > >> Congratulations to Izumi, Anriette, Bill and Vladi. >> >> Together with Graciela, Valeria and Qusai, they form a good team. >> >> >> Parminder >> >> On Thursday 26 April 2012 03:04 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> >>> The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. >>> >>> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >>> available at :http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >>> >>> List of MAG >>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- >>> >>> I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. >>> It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated >>> by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and >>> support the new MAG members. >>> >>> Take care all! >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 08:20:54 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:20:54 -0700 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0504C3A460FF4DC99425DEAC5F1EAA33@UserVAIO> And my congratulations as well, (including to Mwaki!) On a related note, I've just come back from participation (as a researcher) in the first formal meeting of the Open Government Partnership (OGP). The OGP is another and newer "multistakeholder partnership" but with some very key differences--formal terms of membership (signing on to a declaration), formal accountability (a prescribed review mechanism), and a formal status for Civil Society as a "partner" with governments in the on-going process (including with a CS representative as a co-Chair). There are of course, differences in domains, desired outcomes and so on, but the structure of the OGP is worth a look, if nothing else as concerning the evolving (and emerging) role of CS in global multilateral governance structures and thus perhaps worth a discussion by the IGC and some thoughts as to CS/MAG orientation. (I've written a blogpost on the OGP that might also be of interest including some themes that link back to some of my earlier interventions in this space ... Best, M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Ginger Paque Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:37 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Roland Perry Subject: Re: [governance] New MAG announced I thank everyone who put their name forward for MAG nominations, and supported this process. Congrats to everyone who participated in any way, and good luck to the new MAG. I think I/we forget sometimes that our (the rest of us, who are not on the MAG) responsibility does not end here. I hope we give the new MAG clear input on what we want from them and from the IGF, here on the IGC list, through the IGF consultations and website, and using all of the resources that we have at our disposal. I know that I get caught up in other work, and often do not make the time to do my part. I hope to do better this year. Good luck and energy to all! Cheers, Ginger Ginger (Virginia) Paque VirginiaP at diplomacy.edu Diplo Foundation Internet Governance Capacity Building Programme www.diplomacy.edu/ig The latest from Diplo....New call for applications for Internet governance thematic courses: Infrastructure, Cybersecurity, E-participation, IPR and more http://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/call-applications-advanced-courses-internet-go vernance On 26 April 2012 11:03, Roland Perry wrote: In message gu9Qtg2GkMR_186Eh4si6g+OLSr+zEMA at mail.gmail.com>, at 23:34:26 on Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Fouad Bajwa writes A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/ docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm So we have a significant rotation (33 of 56) although not quite two-thirds (that would be 37). Of the original members from 2006, nine remain. From that cohort we say goodbye to Ayaz Bayramov, Daniel Dardailler, Bill Graham, Jeanette Hofmann, Michael Katundu, George Papadatos and Emily Taylor. Once again nine remain from the cohort of 2007 with nine retiring (I won't list them all). The biggest turnover is from the 2009 cohort, with only five remaining and fifteen taking their leave. (2008 and 2011 saw only very minor changes). -- Roland Perry ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 08:21:58 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:21:58 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> If someone play the facilitator role within the MAG civil society, it might work. But not everyone from civil society should do so. The MAG is terribly time consuming and if you actually want to influence the outcome, it will take you a lot of time. Its hard to do both re time issues. ie review workshops is really time consuming. In other venues, you always have a facilitator/ a liaison, that make sure the voice of their members are well covered. I think the IGC structure is sorta amorphous! Izumi might want know to try to things in order... I did have concerns on how to report back. You are in some way under a Chattam Rules and you also do not want always to disclose your strategy in advance. We have several gov. and other stakeholder in the group, and I believe it some comments can harm the effectiveness of the MAG civ. soc. while negotiating within other MAGs. My two cents. On 4/27/12 1:35 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > In message > , > at 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes >> And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage >> between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" >> from all members. > > How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's always > been the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to > secrecy is understandable. -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn Fri Apr 27 08:25:00 2012 From: tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn (tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:25:00 +0100 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00bf01cd2470$c41797b0$4c46c710$@planet.tn> Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 ------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BEN JEMAA Vice Président de la CIC Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 Télécopie  : + 216 70 825 231 ------------------------------------------------------------ -----Message d'origine----- De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de Izumi AIZU Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 À : governance Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May 18. I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for the MAG meeting Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. Thanks, izumi ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. 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Many thanks, Lara Lara Pace, Communications Officer m: (356) 9945 7756 | e: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt ALFIR, Reggie Miller Street, Gzira, GZR 1541, MALTA w: www.comnet.org.mt | t: (356) 21 323393 On 27/04/2012 14:25, "tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn" wrote: >Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Tijani BEN JEMAA >Vice Président de la CIC >Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs >Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 >Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >Télécopie : + 216 70 825 231 >------------------------------------------------------------ > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de Izumi >AIZU >Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 >À : governance >Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? > >I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF >MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May >18. > >I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for the >MAG meeting > >Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, when >to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. > >Thanks, > >izumi > > >----- >Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 >La >Base de données des virus a expiré. > > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 08:30:10 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:30:10 +0200 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> +1 On 4/27/12 2:28 PM, Lara Pace wrote: > Izumi, > > I will be in Geneva 13th - 17th May. > > Many thanks, > > Lara > > > Lara Pace, Communications Officer > m: (356) 9945 7756 | e: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt > > ALFIR, Reggie Miller Street, Gzira, GZR 1541, MALTA > w: www.comnet.org.mt | t: (356) 21 323393 > > > > > > On 27/04/2012 14:25, "tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn" > wrote: > >> Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> Tijani BEN JEMAA >> Vice Président de la CIC >> Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs >> Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 >> Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >> Télécopie : + 216 70 825 231 >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de Izumi >> AIZU >> Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 >> À : governance >> Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? >> >> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF >> MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May >> 18. >> >> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for the >> MAG meeting >> >> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, when >> to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. >> >> Thanks, >> >> izumi >> >> >> ----- >> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >> Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 >> La >> Base de données des virus a expiré. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Fri Apr 27 08:44:28 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:44:28 +0900 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> Message-ID: From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG discussions, and pass information back. Regularly. Hope all those selected enjoy it. Adam On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > If someone play the facilitator role within the MAG civil society, it might > work. But not everyone from civil society should do so. The MAG is terribly > time consuming and if you actually want to influence the outcome, it will > take you a lot of time. Its hard to do both re time issues. ie review > workshops is really time consuming. > > In other venues, you always have a facilitator/ a liaison, that make sure > the voice of their members are well covered. I think the IGC structure is > sorta amorphous! Izumi might want know to try to things in order... > > I did have concerns on how to report back. You are in some way under a > Chattam Rules and you also do not want always to disclose your strategy in > advance. We have several gov. and other stakeholder in the group, and I > believe it some comments can harm the effectiveness of the MAG civ. soc. > while negotiating within other MAGs. My two cents. > > > On 4/27/12 1:35 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >> >> In message >> , at >> 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes >>> >>> And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage >>> between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" >>> from all members. >> >> >> How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's always been >> the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to secrecy is >> understandable. > > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of > speech since 1990 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 09:03:15 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:03:15 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9A9913.3060208@eff.org> Thanks Adam. Rules are the same as previous years. Many well established NGOS has members and its easy to report to them (or they delegate trust to them) but the IGC community demand info. and to be heard, and if you are a MAG member, its hard to ignore them. There are other spaces where civil society has improved collaboration. But I honestly agree with you. It might be really hard to have a liaison/facilitator and it might not play well in the end. My question: If some new MAG members wont necessarily report to IGC, how otherwell established NGOs with members and individual will learn of what happen in the MAG if IGC is not the right place to share info? only selected people will have access to the info? Just curious! On 4/27/12 2:44 PM, Adam Peake wrote: > From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group > members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have > extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." > > I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be > enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to > their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that > stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG > discussions, and pass information back. Regularly. > > Hope all those selected enjoy it. > > Adam > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: >> If someone play the facilitator role within the MAG civil society, it might >> work. But not everyone from civil society should do so. The MAG is terribly >> time consuming and if you actually want to influence the outcome, it will >> take you a lot of time. Its hard to do both re time issues. ie review >> workshops is really time consuming. >> >> In other venues, you always have a facilitator/ a liaison, that make sure >> the voice of their members are well covered. I think the IGC structure is >> sorta amorphous! Izumi might want to try to put things in order... >> >> I did have concerns on how to report back. You are in some way under a >> Chattam Rules and you also do not want always to disclose your strategy in >> advance. We have several gov. and other stakeholder in the group, and I >> believe it some comments can harm the effectiveness of the MAG civ. soc. >> while negotiating within other MAGs. My two cents. >> >> >> On 4/27/12 1:35 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >>> In message >>> , at >>> 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes >>>> And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage >>>> between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" >>>> from all members. >>> >>> How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's always been >>> the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to secrecy is >>> understandable. >> >> >> -- >> Katitza Rodriguez >> International Rights Director >> Electronic Frontier Foundation >> katitza at eff.org >> katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) >> >> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of >> speech since 1990 >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ias_pk at yahoo.com Fri Apr 27 09:09:12 2012 From: ias_pk at yahoo.com (Imran Ahmed Shah) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [governance] Fwd: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) Message-ID: <1335532152.27014.BPMail_low_noncarrier@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Do you really think it a So-Called? ------------------------------ On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 4:49 PM PKT Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >And the so-called "glitch" continues to haunt Icann... > >--c.a. > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:06:25 -0700 >From: Glen de Saint Géry >To: liaison6c > > >http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-26apr12-en.htm >TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) >Statement by Akram Atallah, COO >26 April 2012 >Many users have expressed concern that they are currently unable to view their applications in the TLD application system that has been temporarily suspended due to a technical issue. >We can confirm that when the application system reopens, users will be able to review their applications, including those already submitted, to assure themselves that their information remains as they intended. >We expect that demands on the system will be high when it reopens, and we are enhancing system performance as part of our preparations for the reopening. >Ongoing testing continues to show that this issue did not cause any loss or corruption of user data. >Please check our website regularly for updates. > > >Glen de Saint Géry >GNSO Secretariat >gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org >http://gnso.icann.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 09:19:22 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:19:22 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9A9913.3060208@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9A9913.3060208@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9A9CDA.10108@eff.org> FYI: I do not have a solution. I only see a problem for non MAG members. May be the MAG processes have advanced a lot to the point where all stakeholders can start blogging about the MAG meetings (and issues) without naming names? On 4/27/12 3:03 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > Thanks Adam. > > Rules are the same as previous years. Many well established NGOS has > members > and its easy to report to them (or they delegate trust to them) but > the IGC community > demand info. and to be heard, and if you are a MAG member, its hard to > ignore them. > There are other spaces where civil society has improved collaboration. > > But I honestly agree with you. It might be really hard to have a > liaison/facilitator and it might > not play well in the end. > > My question: If some new MAG members wont necessarily report to IGC, > how otherwell established > NGOs with members and individual will learn of what happen in the MAG > if IGC is not the right place > to share info? only selected people will have access to the info? Just > curious! > > > > > On 4/27/12 2:44 PM, Adam Peake wrote: >> From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group >> members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have >> extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." >> >> I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be >> enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to >> their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that >> stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG >> discussions, and pass information back. Regularly. >> >> Hope all those selected enjoy it. >> >> Adam >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Katitza Rodriguez >> wrote: >>> If someone play the facilitator role within the MAG civil society, >>> it might >>> work. But not everyone from civil society should do so. The MAG is >>> terribly >>> time consuming and if you actually want to influence the outcome, it >>> will >>> take you a lot of time. Its hard to do both re time issues. ie review >>> workshops is really time consuming. >>> >>> In other venues, you always have a facilitator/ a liaison, that make >>> sure >>> the voice of their members are well covered. I think the IGC >>> structure is >>> sorta amorphous! Izumi might want to try to put things in order... >>> >>> I did have concerns on how to report back. You are in some way under a >>> Chattam Rules and you also do not want always to disclose your >>> strategy in >>> advance. We have several gov. and other stakeholder in the group, and I >>> believe it some comments can harm the effectiveness of the MAG civ. >>> soc. >>> while negotiating within other MAGs. My two cents. >>> >>> >>> On 4/27/12 1:35 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >>>> In message >>>> , >>>> at >>>> 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes >>>>> And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage >>>>> between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need >>>>> "input" >>>>> from all members. >>>> >>>> How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's >>>> always been >>>> the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to >>>> secrecy is >>>> understandable. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Katitza Rodriguez >>> International Rights Director >>> Electronic Frontier Foundation >>> katitza at eff.org >>> katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) >>> >>> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and >>> freedom of >>> speech since 1990 >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> > > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ca at cafonso.ca Fri Apr 27 09:22:59 2012 From: ca at cafonso.ca (Carlos A. Afonso) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:22:59 -0300 Subject: [governance] Fwd: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) In-Reply-To: <1335532152.27014.BPMail_low_noncarrier@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1335532152.27014.BPMail_low_noncarrier@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F9A9DB3.9060007@cafonso.ca> Yes -- a "glitch" in nerdese is usually a minor software defect, this is why I mentioned it as so-called and in quotation marks :) I keep worrying about the consequences of this major failure, including the possible ensuing liability cases against Icann. --c.a. On 04/27/2012 10:09 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote: > > Do you really think it a So-Called? > > ------------------------------ > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 4:49 PM PKT Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > > >And the so-called "glitch" continues to haunt Icann... > > > >--c.a. > > > >-------- Original Message -------- > >Subject: [liaison6c] TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) > >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:06:25 -0700 > >From: Glen de Saint Géry > >To: liaison6c > > > > > >http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-26apr12-en.htm > >TAS Interruption - Update (26 April 2012) > >Statement by Akram Atallah, COO > >26 April 2012 > >Many users have expressed concern that they are currently unable to view their applications in the TLD application system that has been temporarily suspended due to a technical issue. > >We can confirm that when the application system reopens, users will be able to review their applications, including those already submitted, to assure themselves that their information remains as they intended. > >We expect that demands on the system will be high when it reopens, and we are enhancing system performance as part of our preparations for the reopening. > >Ongoing testing continues to show that this issue did not cause any loss or corruption of user data. > >Please check our website regularly for updates. > > > > > >Glen de Saint Géry > >GNSO Secretariat > >gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org > >http://gnso.icann.org > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mariliamaciel at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 09:28:31 2012 From: mariliamaciel at gmail.com (Marilia Maciel) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:28:31 -0300 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> Message-ID: Dear Izumi, I will be in Geneva for the meeting on EC and for CSTD (17 until 24 May). Unfortunately, it will not be possible to arrive earlier for WSIS/OC. Marília On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > +1 > > > On 4/27/12 2:28 PM, Lara Pace wrote: > >> Izumi, >> >> I will be in Geneva 13th - 17th May. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Lara >> >> >> Lara Pace, Communications Officer >> m: (356) 9945 7756 | e: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt >> >> @comnet-it.**org > >> ALFIR, Reggie Miller Street, Gzira, GZR 1541, MALTA >> w: www.comnet.org.mt> >> | t: (356) 21 323393 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27/04/2012 14:25, "tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn" >> wrote: >> >> Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------ >>> Tijani BEN JEMAA >>> Vice Président de la CIC >>> Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs >>> Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 >>> Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >>> Télécopie : + 216 70 825 231 >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------ >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de >>> Izumi >>> AIZU >>> Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 >>> À : governance >>> Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? >>> >>> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF >>> MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May >>> 18. >>> >>> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for >>> the >>> MAG meeting >>> >>> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, >>> when >>> to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> izumi >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >>> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >>> Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 >>> La >>> Base de données des virus a expiré. >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**______________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/**unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/**info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/**translate_t >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of > speech since 1990 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade FGV Direito Rio Center for Technology and Society Getulio Vargas Foundation Rio de Janeiro - Brazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 27 09:39:10 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:39:10 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> Message-ID: In message , at 21:44:28 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Adam Peake writes >From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group >members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have >extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." > >I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be >enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to >their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that >stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG >discussions, and pass information back. Regularly. I agree, but from my perspective I generally see more information flowing from stakeholder groups to their MAG members, than back in the other direction. It's almost as if the expression "serving in their personal capacity" gives them an amnesty from reporting back. My remarks are not aimed at any specific individuals, but perhaps some of them take the Chatham House rule to mean they can't say anything, when what it actually means is they can't attribute the speakers, but are not prohibited on reporting the sentiments expressed. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 10:53:57 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:53:57 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> On 4/27/12 3:39 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > In message > , > at 21:44:28 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Adam Peake writes >> From the press release announcing the new MAG "All Advisory Group >> members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have >> extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." >> >> I think difficult to have a liaison or facilitator. It should be >> enough that people joining MAG make a sincere effort to reach out to >> their stakeholder group (and individuals will probably imagine that >> stakeholder group differently), take views they hear to MAG >> discussions, and pass information back. Regularly. > > I agree, but from my perspective I generally see more information > flowing from stakeholder groups to their MAG members, than back in the > other direction. It's almost as if the expression "serving in their > personal capacity" gives them an amnesty from reporting back. > > My remarks are not aimed at any specific individuals, but perhaps some > of them take the Chatham House rule to mean they can't say anything, > when what it actually means is they can't attribute the speakers, but > are not prohibited on reporting the sentiments expressed. Hola Roland, I know you are not referring to a specific person nor I believe those comments necessarily apply to me. But: I do like to send my comments : ) Reporting of what happen in the meeting should be easier as well as sharing your thoughts. I found more complicated to discuss sensitive issues for a joint position in an open list (with many stakeholders on it) before a meeting (and gather the feedback that is needed prior to that meeting). I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't have the time but many others may? -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From hakik at hakik.org Fri Apr 27 11:14:05 2012 From: hakik at hakik.org (Hakikur Rahman) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:14:05 +0100 Subject: AW: [governance] New MAG announced References: Message-ID: Congratulations to All. Hope that new MAG will contribute further for the progress of the Internet governance. Best regards, Hakikur At 22:52 25-04-2012, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message > >Congratulations to all our people who have made >its way to the MAG. Great challenge, great >opportunity, great responsibility. IGC should do >its best to help and support. BTW, eight out of >the 56 MAG members are former fellows or faculty >members from the Meissen Summer School on Internet Governance (SSIG). > >wolfgang > >________________________________ > >Von: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org im Auftrag von Fouad Bajwa >Gesendet: Mi 25.04.2012 23:34 >An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >Betreff: [governance] New MAG announced > > > >Dear All, > >The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > >A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > >List of MAG >http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > >I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. >It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated >by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and >support the new MAG members. > >Take care all! > >-- >Regards. >-------------------------- >Fouad Bajwa >ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor >My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.blogspot.com/ >Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa > > > > >____________________________________________________________ >You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org >To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 27 11:15:01 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:15:01 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> Message-ID: In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog >about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has >been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be >this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the >reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't >have the time but many others may? Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your thoughts to people outside of your tight stakeholder group. But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the members. "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." 'Extensive' is a very strong word. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From admin at alkasir.com Fri Apr 27 11:16:31 2012 From: admin at alkasir.com (Walid AL-SAQAF ) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:16:31 +0200 Subject: AW: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Let me add my congratulations too and look forward to a positive contribution by the new MAG team! Sincerely, Walid ----------------- Walid Al-Saqaf Founder & Administrator alkasir for mapping and circumventing cyber censorship https://alkasir.com On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Hakikur Rahman wrote: > Congratulations to All. Hope that new MAG will contribute further for the > progress of the Internet governance. > > Best regards, > Hakikur > > > At 22:52 25-04-2012, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote: > >> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >> Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >> >> Congratulations to all our people who have made its way to the MAG. Great >> challenge, great opportunity, great responsibility. IGC should do its best >> to help and support. BTW, eight out of the 56 MAG members are former >> fellows or faculty members from the Meissen Summer School on Internet >> Governance (SSIG). >> >> wolfgang >> >> ______________________________**__ >> >> Von: governance-request at lists.**igcaucus.orgim Auftrag von Fouad Bajwa >> Gesendet: Mi 25.04.2012 23:34 >> An: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> Betreff: [governance] New MAG announced >> >> >> >> Dear All, >> >> The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. >> >> A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is >> available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/**docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm >> >> List of MAG >> http://www.intgovforum.org/**cms/component/content/article/** >> 114-preparatory-process/941-**mag-2012- >> >> I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. >> It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated >> by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and >> support the new MAG members. >> >> Take care all! >> >> -- >> Regards. >> -------------------------- >> Fouad Bajwa >> ICT4D and Internet Governance Advisor >> My Blog: Internet's Governance: http://internetsgovernance.** >> blogspot.com/ >> Follow my Tweets: http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**______________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/**unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/**info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/**translate_t >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 11:32:36 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:32:36 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... Some civil society reps are not even in this list so they will report to their members or what they consider is their stakeholder group. Some consider the IGC as their stakeholder group for reporting back, especially those who are selected by IGC. Some others, might report to their own members, I guess. I think that even those not selected by IGC but are in the list would like to share more sensitive issues but have concerns about the openness of the list. So if IGC does not have a strong structure for civil participation only, then, maybe everything should become public? Again: I do not have an answer. On 4/27/12 5:15 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > In message<4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, > Katitza Rodriguez writes >> I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog >> about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has >> been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be >> this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the >> reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't >> have the time but many others may? > Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your thoughts > to people outside of your tight stakeholder group. > > But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem > appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the > members. > "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, > but are expected to have extensive linkages with their > respective stakeholder groups." > > 'Extensive' is a very strong word. -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Fri Apr 27 11:36:04 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:36:04 -0400 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> Message-ID: Katitza, You raise some good points. However, suggest we take a step back first and ask the all important question - Are all the Civil Society members of the MAG on the IGC mailing list? If not, one of the first asks for the newly appointed group would be for them all to join and play an active part on this list. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org On 2012-04-27, at 11:32 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... > > Some civil society reps are not even in this list so they will report to their members > or what they consider is their stakeholder group. > > Some consider the IGC as their stakeholder group for reporting back, especially those > who are selected by IGC. Some others, might report to their own members, I guess. > > I think that even those not selected by IGC but are in the list would like to share more > sensitive issues but have concerns about the openness of the list. > > So if IGC does not have a strong structure for civil participation only, then, maybe > everything should become public? Again: I do not have an answer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the open government partnership to our attention. It will be definitely interesting to follow this experience of governmental/non-governmental cooperation more closely. Regarding this very important topic of keeping the flow of information between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have shared responsibility to make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to provide timely feedback when MAG members send information and ask the views of IGC members about a given topic. On some occasions, I think that we failed to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a commitment from us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during OC and MAG meetings is key, in my opinion. On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to find more efficient ways to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an option. Taking into account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use of Skype and Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line between disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. Also, sometimes we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to make little steps towards improving communication and transparency. The experience with CSTD WG (that began as a more closed experiment than MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a positive and respectful manner. Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC members, I think that CS should also try to communicate better its views with the outside world. This is part of outreach, as much as is part of the political process of dispute of views in Internet governance. There are too few sources of information about IG that have become references online. Of course, each CS organization has its own medium of communication, but I think it would not hurt to develop a more coordinated approach, cross-references, or maybe a shared online space, that could even be in IGC website. Best, Marília On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry < roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote: > In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, > Katitza Rodriguez writes > >I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog > >about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has > >been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be > >this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the > >reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't > >have the time but many others may? > > Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your thoughts > to people outside of your tight stakeholder group. > > But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem > appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the > members. > "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, > but are expected to have extensive linkages with their > respective stakeholder groups." > > 'Extensive' is a very strong word. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade FGV Direito Rio Center for Technology and Society Getulio Vargas Foundation Rio de Janeiro - Brazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 27 11:45:59 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:45:59 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> Message-ID: In message <4F9ABC14.10108 at eff.org>, at 17:32:36 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... Going to the event takes three or four days for most people. Isn't it worth spending a few hours telling your stakeholders what the outcome was? >Some civil society reps are not even in this list so they will report >to their members or what they consider is their stakeholder group. > >Some consider the IGC as their stakeholder group for reporting back, >especially those who are selected by IGC. Some others, might report to >their own members, I guess. > >I think that even those not selected by IGC but are in the list would >like to share more sensitive issues but have concerns about the >openness of the list. > >So if IGC does not have a strong structure for civil participation >only, then, maybe everything should become public? Again: I do not have >an answer. The civil society stakeholder group has some unique challenges, but maybe after all this time (7th year now) it's time to start addressing them. Other stakeholder groups... what to they do. For example do Government members report back to just their own government, to all governments, a subset of governments, no-one at all. Anyone know? -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 11:56:38 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:56:38 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9AC1B6.8070106@eff.org> Hey Roland, On 4/27/12 5:45 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <4F9ABC14.10108 at eff.org>, at 17:32:36 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, > Katitza Rodriguez writes >> Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... > > Going to the event takes three or four days for most people. Isn't it > worth spending a few hours telling your stakeholders what the outcome > was? Reporting is fine. However, you do need everyone to report the same thing.. You can also... but a joint report is much better. Usually, you do so in other processes. Also I said that because there might be people from civil society who might not be in the list or at least I havent read an email from them). Katitza -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From mariliamaciel at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 11:58:59 2012 From: mariliamaciel at gmail.com (Marilia Maciel) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:58:59 -0300 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> Message-ID: Always pragmatic, Robert! ;) That is an excellent starting point. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Katitza, > > You raise some good points. However, suggest we take a step back first and > ask the all important question - > > Are all the Civil Society members of the MAG on the IGC mailing list? > > If not, one of the first asks for the newly appointed group would be for > them all to join and play an active part on this list. > > regards > > Robert > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > On 2012-04-27, at 11:32 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > > Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... > > Some civil society reps are not even in this list so they will report to > their members > or what they consider is their stakeholder group. > > Some consider the IGC as their stakeholder group for reporting back, > especially those > who are selected by IGC. Some others, might report to their own members, I > guess. > > I think that even those not selected by IGC but are in the list would like > to share more > sensitive issues but have concerns about the openness of the list. > > So if IGC does not have a strong structure for civil participation only, > then, maybe > everything should become public? Again: I do not have an answer. > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade FGV Direito Rio Center for Technology and Society Getulio Vargas Foundation Rio de Janeiro - Brazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 13:02:03 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:02:03 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9AD10B.8060503@eff.org> There is one important comment. I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all civil society members need to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if IGC list is consider the mailing list for civil society. I infer this because there are civil society in the MAG who are not in IGC nor put forward by IGC. I'm not arguing that everyone should be here (I think that this hasn't been discussed). At the same time, the Secretariat/UN composition of MAG is seems to be a fair one. This is why I did not expect that everyone from civil society will necessarily report to the IGC. They can report to their own members according to this rule. Do we like this or not? That needs to be discussed. It is a question that I believe it haven't been tackled (and it will help MAG members knows their obligations) far beyond reporting to their own members/groups. "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote: > First of all, congratulations to all IGC members that have been > selected, through IGC Nomcom or by other means. I am also very > comfortable a happy with the choice. > > Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the open government > partnership to our attention. It will be definitely interesting to > follow this experience of governmental/non-governmental cooperation > more closely. > > Regarding this very important topic of keeping the flow of information > between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have shared > responsibility to make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to > provide timely feedback when MAG members send information and ask the > views of IGC members about a given topic. On some occasions, I think > that we failed to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a > commitment from us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during > OC and MAG meetings is key, in my opinion. > > On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to find more efficient > ways to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an option. > Taking into account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use > of Skype and Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line > between disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. > Also, sometimes we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to make > little steps towards improving communication and transparency. The > experience with CSTD WG (that began as a more closed experiment than > MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a positive and respectful manner. > > Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC members, I think that > CS should also try to communicate better its views with the outside > world. This is part of outreach, as much as is part of the political > process of dispute of views in Internet governance. There are too few > sources of information about IG that have become references online. Of > course, each CS organization has its own medium of communication, but > I think it would not hurt to develop a more coordinated approach, > cross-references, or maybe a shared online space, that could even be > in IGC website. > > Best, > Marília > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry > > wrote: > > In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org > >, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, > Katitza Rodriguez > writes > >I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog > >about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has > >been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be > >this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the > >reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't > >have the time but many others may? > > Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your > thoughts > to people outside of your tight stakeholder group. > > But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem > appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the > members. > "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, > but are expected to have extensive linkages with their > respective stakeholder groups." > > 'Extensive' is a very strong word. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > > -- > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade > FGV Direito Rio > > Center for Technology and Society > Getulio Vargas Foundation > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Fri Apr 27 13:19:48 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:19:48 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9AC1B6.8070106@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> <4F9AC1B6.8070106@eff.org> Message-ID: In message <4F9AC1B6.8070106 at eff.org>, at 17:56:38 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >>> Well blogging takes more time than reporting to the list... >> >> Going to the event takes three or four days for most people. Isn't it >>worth spending a few hours telling your stakeholders what the outcome >>was? >Reporting is fine. However, you do need everyone to report the same >thing.. If everyone reports the same thing, why send multiple people to the meeting? Surely each will bring their own perspective to both the input and the feedback. >You can also... but a joint report is much better. I disagree, the overhead of agreeing such a report would delay it enormously. >Usually, you do so in other processes. Also I said that because there >might be people from civil society who might not be in the list or at >least I havent read an email from them). This goes back to the question of whether the Civil Society members of the MAG are representative of [only] the IGC, or of a wider Civil Society movement. As far as I can see, only three of the seven IGC nominees were selected, so perhaps there's "life outside the IGC" as well? -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From gurstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 13:29:21 2012 From: gurstein at gmail.com (michael gurstein) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:29:21 -0700 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9AD10B.8060503@eff.org> Message-ID: One of the interesting features of the OGP is that since CS has a formalized role (including providing feedback on Government commitments) there is very considerable pressure for CS to formalize/consolidate its involvement (speak with one voice). On the other side, one of the commitments in the OGP declaration is towards government ensuring "participation" in the formulation of the OGP commitments which means that there is the likelihood of a degree of involvement by governments in the process of the formulation of CS in relation to the OGP. Conceptually and operationally there are a number of issues arising from this but it is still very early days with the OGP and it will be interesting to see how these are resolved--both at the global and particularly the national levels. M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Katitza Rodriguez Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:02 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Marilia Maciel Subject: Re: [governance] New MAG announced There is one important comment. I'm not sure if the Secretariat believes that all civil society members need to be an IGC member and report to the IGC nor if IGC list is consider the mailing list for civil society. I infer this because there are civil society in the MAG who are not in IGC nor put forward by IGC. I'm not arguing that everyone should be here (I think that this hasn't been discussed). At the same time, the Secretariat/UN composition of MAG is seems to be a fair one. This is why I did not expect that everyone from civil society will necessarily report to the IGC. They can report to their own members according to this rule. Do we like this or not? That needs to be discussed. It is a question that I believe it haven't been tackled (and it will help MAG members knows their obligations) far beyond reporting to their own members/groups. "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." On 4/27/12 5:40 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote: First of all, congratulations to all IGC members that have been selected, through IGC Nomcom or by other means. I am also very comfortable a happy with the choice. Thanks, Mike, for bringing up the experience of the open government partnership to our attention. It will be definitely interesting to follow this experience of governmental/non-governmental cooperation more closely. Regarding this very important topic of keeping the flow of information between MAG and IGC, I believe that both sides have shared responsibility to make it happen. On the IGC side, it is important to provide timely feedback when MAG members send information and ask the views of IGC members about a given topic. On some occasions, I think that we failed to provide useful feedback in a timely manner. So, a commitment from us to follow the list/Skype/Twitter, at least during OC and MAG meetings is key, in my opinion. On the other hand, MAG representatives do need to find more efficient ways to report back. Share tasks/topics among them is an option. Taking into account the limitations like Chatam house Rules, the use of Skype and Twitter should also be consider. It is a thin line between disclosing enough/too much, but we should strive to find it. Also, sometimes we need to push the boundaries a bit and try to make little steps towards improving communication and transparency. The experience with CSTD WG (that began as a more closed experiment than MAG) proved it is possible to do it in a positive and respectful manner. Moving beyond communication between MAG and IGC members, I think that CS should also try to communicate better its views with the outside world. This is part of outreach, as much as is part of the political process of dispute of views in Internet governance. There are too few sources of information about IG that have become references online. Of course, each CS organization has its own medium of communication, but I think it would not hurt to develop a more coordinated approach, cross-references, or maybe a shared online space, that could even be in IGC website. Best, Marília On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Roland Perry wrote: In message <4F9AB305.3030201 at eff.org>, at 16:53:57 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >I think, what we haven't done, but may be it is an idea is to blog >about the meetings as long as you do not attribute the names. It has >been working very well in CSTD as long as it is without names. May be >this is something that might help inform the discussion and solve the >reporting problem?. Of course, I do understand that many people won't >have the time but many others may? Blogging also has the problem that you might be revealing your thoughts to people outside of your tight stakeholder group. But anyone without the time to "report back" (in whatever form we deem appropriate) doesn't seem to me to be qualified to be one of the members. "All Advisory Group members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups." 'Extensive' is a very strong word. -- Roland Perry ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -- Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade FGV Direito Rio Center for Technology and Society Getulio Vargas Foundation Rio de Janeiro - Brazil -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Fri Apr 27 13:33:10 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:33:10 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> <4F9AC1B6.8070106@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9AD856.2050408@eff.org> Hi Roland, I have no strong opinions in one way or another re: reporting. It could be everyone (it could be one). Most of the hard word is done online.. in mailing list....I think Marilia explained clear some of the challenges not only to report but also to gather feedback that was actually useful in the right moment. I think now, we have more civil society in the MAG who have recently committed to actually do the work, and divided the tasks (reporting AND doing the work) both are important. On 4/27/12 7:19 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > >> Usually, you do so in other processes. Also I said that because >> there might be people from civil society who might not be in the list >> or at least I havent read an email from them). > > This goes back to the question of whether the Civil Society members of > the MAG are representative of [only] the IGC, or of a wider Civil > Society movement. As far as I can see, only three of the seven IGC > nominees were selected, so perhaps there's "life outside the IGC" as > well? Definitely yes. 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Photograph: Jacquelyn Martin/AP The House of Representatives has ignored objections from Barack Obama's administration and approved legislation aimed at helping to thwart electronic attacks on critical US infrastructure and private companies. On a bipartisan vote of 248-168, the Republican-controlled House backed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (Cispa ), which would encourage companies and the federal government to share information collected on the internet to prevent electronic attacks from cybercriminals, foreign governments and terrorists. "This is the last bastion of things we need to do to protect this country," Republican Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence committee, said after more than five hours of debate. More than 10 years after the September 11 terror attacks in 2001, proponents cast the bill as an initial step to deal with an evolving threat of the internet age. The information-sharing would be voluntary to avoid imposing new regulations on businesses, an imperative for Republicans. The legislation would allow the government to relay cyber threat information to a company to prevent attacks from Russia or China. In the private sector, corporations could alert the government and provide data that could stop an attack intended to disrupt the country's water supply or take down the banking system. The Obama administration has threatened a veto of the House bill, preferring a Senate measure that would give the homeland security department the primary role in overseeing domestic cybersecurity and the authority to set security standards. That Senate bill remains stalled. The Republican House speaker, John Boehner, said the administration's approach was misguided. "The White House believes the government ought to control the internet, government ought to set standards and government ought to take care of everything that's needed for cybersecurity," Boehner told reporters at his weekly news conference. "They're in a camp all by themselves." Faced with widespread privacy concerns, Rogers and Republican CA "Dutch" Ruppersberger , the intelligence panel's top Democrat, pulled together an amendment that limits the government's use of threat information to five specific purposes: cybersecurity; investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crimes; protection of individuals from death or serious bodily harm; protection of minors from child pornography; and the protection of national security. The House passed the amendment by 410 votes to three. The White House, along with a coalition of liberal and conservative groups and lawmakers, strongly opposed the measure, complaining that Americans' privacy could be violated. They argued that companies could share an employee's personal information with the government, data that could end up in the hands of officials from the National Security Agency or the defence department. They also challenged the bill's liability waiver for private companies that disclose information, complaining it was too broad. "Once in government hands, this information can be used for undefined 'national security' purposes unrelated to cybersecurity," a coalition that included the American Civil Liberties Union and former conservative Republican representative Bob Barr, lawmakers said on Thursday. Echoing those concerns were several Republicans and Democrats who warned of potential government spying on its citizens with the help of employers. "In an effort to foster information sharing, this bill would erode the privacy protections of every single American using the internet. It would create a 'wild west' of information sharing," said Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, the leading Democrat on the House homeland security committee. Republican representative Joe Barton said: "Until we protect the privacy rights of our citizens, the solution is worse than the problem." Countering criticism of Big Brother run amok, proponents argued that the bill does not allow the government to monitor private networks, read private emails or close a website. It urges companies that share data to remove personal information. "There is no government surveillance, none, not any in this bill," Rogers said. Among the amendments the House approved was one by Republican Justin Amash that put certain personal information off limits: library, medical and gun sale records, tax returns and education documents. "I don't know why the government would want to snoop through library records or tax returns to counter the cybersecurity threat," Amash said. The House approved his amendment by 415-0. Trumping any privacy concerns were the national security argument, always powerful in an election year, and Republicans' political desire to complete a bill that would then force the Democratic-led Senate to act. The Obama administration backs a Senate bill sponsored by senators Joe Lieberman, an Independent, and Republican Susan Collins, that gives homeland security the authority to establish security standards. However, that legislation faces opposition from senior Senate Republicans. Arizona senator John McCain, the leading Republican on the Senate armed services committee, said during a hearing last month that the homeland security department was "probably the most inefficient bureaucracy that I have ever encountered" and was ill-equipped to determine how best to secure the nation's essential infrastructure. McCain has introduced a competing bill. . This article was amended on Friday 27 April to correct a mistake in the headline. 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Then that thought turned into putting together a preview or teaser, incl. abstract, table of contents, etc. (attached). In case any fellow caucus members are affiliated to one of those university press houses that might be interested in publishing this work, please get in touch with me. Thank you, and have a nice weekend. Warm regards, Mawaki Dissertation Abstract Chango, M. 2012. "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports and the Future of Digital Identity." What does a digital identity token have to do with medieval seals? Is the history of passports of any use for enabling the discovery of Internet users’ identity when crossing virtual domain boundaries during their digital browsing and transactions? The agility of the Internet architecture and its simplicity of use have been the engines of its growth and success with the users worldwide. As it turns out, there lies also its crux. In effect, Internet industry participants have argued that the critical problem business is faced with on the Internet is the absence of an identity layer from the core protocols of its logical infrastructure. As a result, the cyberspace parallels a global “territory” without any identification mechanism that is reliable, consistent and interoperable across domains. This dissertation is an investigation of the steps being taken by Internet’s stakeholders in order to resolve its identity problems, through the lenses of historical instances where similar challenges were tackled by social actors. Social science research addressing the Internet identity issues is barely nascent. Research on identification systems in general is either characterized by a paucity of historical perspective, or scantily references digital technology and online identification processes. This research is designed to bridge that gap. The general question at its core is: How do social actors and processes enable the emergence and effective use of authoritative identity credentials for the public? This work is guided by that line of inquiry through three broad historical case studies: first, the medieval experience with seals used as identity tokens in the signing of deeds that resulted in transfers of rights, particularly estate rights; second, comes the modern state with its claim to the right to know all individuals on its territory through credentials such as the passport or the national identity card; and finally, viewed from the United States, the case of ongoing efforts to build a stable and robust digital identity infrastructure. In the process, we understand the relationship of seals to the doctrines of the Trinity and the Eucharist developed by schoolmen within the medieval Church, and we understand how crucial it was for the modern state to coin the legal category of nationality – which emerged as late as in the 19th century – for its identification project. Following an inductive and process-tracing approach to historical case study, this investigation incrementally builds an analytical framework gathering a number of factors that demonstrate an explanatory quality or potential as well as the main analytical insights gained during this inquiry. An ordering of those factors is proposed as a way to capture the causal mechanisms at work across these large sequences and structures. In the analysis of the third case, the making of digital identity is assessed against that backdrop. While the findings of this case appear to consolidate the framework already outlined, new trajectories of implementation-adoption also emerge. Drawing on the rich history of large-scale identification systems, this work generates a number of insights that qualify our expectations about identity technology design and policy-making. It also proposes possible scenarios and pathways to the realization of authoritative digital identity, some plausible and some other less so, which stakeholders may consider. But this is just the beginning of yet another story of identity. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Thank you all - in this thread, in the other thread and in the outer > threads, present and future ;-) > > And yes, I'm currently working on revisions and thinking about > potential publications. To all those who have expressed interest in > reading my work, I'll keep you updated once ready for distribution. > > Mawaki > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: >> Congratulations Dr Mawaki... >> >> Sala >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen >> wrote: >>> >>> Fantastic news Mawaki! >>> >>> Well done. >>> >>> Anriette >>> >>> >>> On 26/04/12 16:32, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: >>> > Congratulations Dr. Chango. >>> > >>> > Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > >>> > Tom Lowenhaupt >>> > >>> > On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: >>> >> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - Dr. - >>> >> Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his successful defense >>> >> yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, >>> >> Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." >>> >> >>> >> best, >>> >> >>> >> Lee McKnight >>> >> ________________________________________ >>> >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> >>> >> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> ] on behalf of Mawaki Chango >>> >> [kichango at gmail.com ] >>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM >>> >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! >>> >> >>> >> Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep >>> >> sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. >>> >> >>> >> Mawaki >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Great Fellow, >>> >>> >>> >>> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings all >>> >>> great >>> >>> things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >>> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] >>> >>> Cross River Farm Credit Scheme >>> >>> Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources >>> >>> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 >>> >>> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. >>> >>> Mobile +234 805 0232 469    Office + 234 802 751 0179 >>> >>>  "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >>> >>> >>> >>> Avri Doria wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen you >>> >>> included >>> >>> in the group. >>> >>> This is as it should have always been. >>> >>> >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Louis Pouzin (well)" >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard friends in >>> >>>> Geneva. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Louis >>> >>>> - - - >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Cheers, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>> >>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com >>> >>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Sala >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> The information contained in this communication is confidential and >>> >>> may be >>> >>> legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the >>> >>> individual or >>> >>> entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. 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Chango Dissertation Preview 2012.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 270920 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn Fri Apr 27 19:12:57 2012 From: tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn (tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:12:57 +0100 Subject: [governance] Dr. Mawaki Chango In-Reply-To: References: <1335436092936455500@crossriverstate.gov.ng> <77A59FC9477004489D44DE7FC6840E7B0D3BDC@SUEX10-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu> <4F995C6E.1020207@communisphere.com> <4F99607A.9090400@apc.org> Message-ID: <008b01cd24cb$48924940$d9b6dbc0$@planet.tn> Thank you very much Mawaki for sharing your abstract. Much appreciated ------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BEN JEMAA Vice Président de la CIC Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 Télécopie  : + 216 70 825 231 ------------------------------------------------------------ -----Message d'origine----- De : governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] De la part de Mawaki Chango Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 23:39 À : governance at lists.igcaucus.org Objet : Re: [governance] Dr. Mawaki Chango I thought I'll share with you the abstract of this work (below) while working on the full document to get it where it needs to be before any circulation, as requested by a few colleagues from this list. Then that thought turned into putting together a preview or teaser, incl. abstract, table of contents, etc. (attached). In case any fellow caucus members are affiliated to one of those university press houses that might be interested in publishing this work, please get in touch with me. Thank you, and have a nice weekend. Warm regards, Mawaki Dissertation Abstract Chango, M. 2012. "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports and the Future of Digital Identity." What does a digital identity token have to do with medieval seals? Is the history of passports of any use for enabling the discovery of Internet users’ identity when crossing virtual domain boundaries during their digital browsing and transactions? The agility of the Internet architecture and its simplicity of use have been the engines of its growth and success with the users worldwide. As it turns out, there lies also its crux. In effect, Internet industry participants have argued that the critical problem business is faced with on the Internet is the absence of an identity layer from the core protocols of its logical infrastructure. As a result, the cyberspace parallels a global “territory” without any identification mechanism that is reliable, consistent and interoperable across domains. This dissertation is an investigation of the steps being taken by Internet’s stakeholders in order to resolve its identity problems, through the lenses of historical instances where similar challenges were tackled by social actors. Social science research addressing the Internet identity issues is barely nascent. Research on identification systems in general is either characterized by a paucity of historical perspective, or scantily references digital technology and online identification processes. This research is designed to bridge that gap. The general question at its core is: How do social actors and processes enable the emergence and effective use of authoritative identity credentials for the public? This work is guided by that line of inquiry through three broad historical case studies: first, the medieval experience with seals used as identity tokens in the signing of deeds that resulted in transfers of rights, particularly estate rights; second, comes the modern state with its claim to the right to know all individuals on its territory through credentials such as the passport or the national identity card; and finally, viewed from the United States, the case of ongoing efforts to build a stable and robust digital identity infrastructure. In the process, we understand the relationship of seals to the doctrines of the Trinity and the Eucharist developed by schoolmen within the medieval Church, and we understand how crucial it was for the modern state to coin the legal category of nationality – which emerged as late as in the 19th century – for its identification project. Following an inductive and process-tracing approach to historical case study, this investigation incrementally builds an analytical framework gathering a number of factors that demonstrate an explanatory quality or potential as well as the main analytical insights gained during this inquiry. An ordering of those factors is proposed as a way to capture the causal mechanisms at work across these large sequences and structures. In the analysis of the third case, the making of digital identity is assessed against that backdrop. While the findings of this case appear to consolidate the framework already outlined, new trajectories of implementation-adoption also emerge. Drawing on the rich history of large-scale identification systems, this work generates a number of insights that qualify our expectations about identity technology design and policy-making. It also proposes possible scenarios and pathways to the realization of authoritative digital identity, some plausible and some other less so, which stakeholders may consider. But this is just the beginning of yet another story of identity. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Thank you all - in this thread, in the other thread and in the outer > threads, present and future ;-) > > And yes, I'm currently working on revisions and thinking about > potential publications. To all those who have expressed interest in > reading my work, I'll keep you updated once ready for distribution. > > Mawaki > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: >> Congratulations Dr Mawaki... >> >> Sala >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen >> >> wrote: >>> >>> Fantastic news Mawaki! >>> >>> Well done. >>> >>> Anriette >>> >>> >>> On 26/04/12 16:32, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: >>> > Congratulations Dr. Chango. >>> > >>> > Is there a document we can see describing this work on digital identity? >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > >>> > Tom Lowenhaupt >>> > >>> > On 4/26/2012 8:42 AM, Lee W McKnight wrote: >>> >> And speaking of congratulations, please join me, in my role as - >>> >> Dr. - Mawaki Chango's advisor, in congratulating Mawaki for his >>> >> successful defense yesterday of his doctoral dissertation, >>> >> "Becoming Artifacts. Medieval Seals, Passports, and the Future of Digital Identity." >>> >> >>> >> best, >>> >> >>> >> Lee McKnight >>> >> ________________________________________ >>> >> From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> >>> >> [governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> ] on behalf of >>> >> Mawaki Chango [kichango at gmail.com ] >>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:23 AM >>> >> To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] Congratulations Louis Pouzin! >>> >> >>> >> Indeed, congratulations to both Louis and Nancy! And please, keep >>> >> sharing your experience and contributions for the good of the commons. >>> >> >>> >> Mawaki >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Great Fellow, >>> >>> >>> >>> Congratulations ! Truth, faithlessness and steadfast LOVE brings >>> >>> all great things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bravo Louis Pouzin !!!!!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Sonigitu Ekpe >>> >>> Project Support Officer[Agriculturist] Cross River Farm Credit >>> >>> Scheme Ministry of Agriculture and Natural Resources >>> >>> 3 Barracks Road P.M.B. 1119 >>> >>> Calabar - Cross River State, Nigeria. >>> >>> Mobile +234 805 0232 469    Office + 234 802 751 0179 >>> >>>  "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving" >>> >>> >>> >>> Avri Doria wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I must add how happy I was to have been there and to have seen >>> >>> you included in the group. >>> >>> This is as it should have always been. >>> >>> >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Louis Pouzin (well)" >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thanks a lot McTim and Sala. It was fun to meet old guard >>> >>>> friends in Geneva. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Louis >>> >>>> - - - >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 01:02, McTim >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> http://internethalloffame.org/inductees/louis-pouzin >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Cheers, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 02:08, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro < >>> >>>> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com >>> >>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Congratulations Louis! >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Sala >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________ The information contained in this communication is >>> >>> confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended >>> >>> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is >>> >>> addressed and others authorized to receive it. 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Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 La Base de données des virus a expiré. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jeremy at ciroap.org Fri Apr 27 19:35:14 2012 From: jeremy at ciroap.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:35:14 +0900 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D56A472-E8C6-4DA9-9A8D-2B1C066809F5@ciroap.org> On 27/04/2012, at 9:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote: > I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF > MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop > on May 18. > > I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare > for the MAG meeting > > Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, > when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, > Monday. For Consumers International we will be sending a member Romain Houéhou who is Coordinator of the African ICT Consumers Network - I will ask him to make this meeting if he can. His expertise is with the ITU, and I believe that both he and the IGC will have something to share. He is from Benin and is a Francophone, but has been making do with English in communicating with me. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Sat Apr 28 00:58:13 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:58:13 +0900 Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 In-Reply-To: <4F9960E8.3080001@apc.org> References: <1335438002.59966.YahooMailClassic@web43138.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4F9960E8.3080001@apc.org> Message-ID: Dear all, We have quite a few people volunteered, thank you. I need some time to count and list them. And then will start the lottery. Thanks again, izumi 2012/4/26 Anriette Esterhuysen : > Dear Izumi > > I am also happy to volunteer if you still need people. > > Anriette > > > On 26/04/12 13:00, Aminou Ndala TITA wrote: >> Hello >> >> I will like to be a volunteer. >> >> Aminou TITA >> SG ISOC Cameroon >> >> /Aminou Ndala TITA/ >> >> P.O Box 963 >> >> Bamenda- NorthWest Region >> >> Cameroon >> >> Tel.+237 77364416 >> >> E-mail: aminou20022001 at yahoo.com >> >>               >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Wed, 4/25/12, Shahid Uddin Akbar //* >> wrote: >> >> >>     From: Shahid Uddin Akbar >>     Subject: RE: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 >>     To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org, "'Zeeshan shoki'" >>     , "'Izumi AIZU'" >>     Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 9:56 AM >> >>     Count me as a Volunteer. >> >> >> >>     Regards, >> >>     Shahid >> >> >> >>     *Md Shahid Uddin Akbar* >> >>     Chief Executive Officer >> >>     Bangladesh Institute of ICT in Development (BIID) >> >>     House No. B 165, Road No. 23 >> >>     Mohakhali DOHS, Dhaka 1206 >> >>     Bangladesh >> >> >> >>     Email: shahid.akbar at biid.org.bd >> >>     Phone: +88 02 8714169 >> >>     Cell: + 88 01819 243935 >> >>     Fax: +88 02 8714168 >> >>     Web: www.biid.org.bd >> >> >> >>     *From:*governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org >>     [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of >>     *Zeeshan shoki >>     *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:37 PM >>     *To:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU >>     *Subject:* Re: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 >> >> >> >>     I want to be volunteer. >> >> >> >>      Regards >> >>     Zeeshan Shoki >> >>     Karachi,Pakistan >> >>     --- On *Wed, 4/25/12, Izumi AIZU //* wrote: >> >> >>     From: Izumi AIZU >>     Subject: [governance] Fwd: Call for NomCom volunteers of 25 >>     To: "governance" >>     Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:15 AM >> >>     Sorry for my posting these messages to the old list, (using G-mail), >>     and we have added four more volunteers, that means we need five >>     more people to be chosen for 5 NomCom members plus a few reserves. >> >>     best, >> >>     izumi >> >>     ---------------- >> >>     A few days more to go, and we need 9 more people to volunteer for >>     NomCom candidates. Please JUST DO IT, Now!! >> >> >>     Izumi >> >> >>     2012年4月16日月曜日 Izumi AIZU iza at anr.org: >> >>     Hi, so far, I received following 15 volunteers. >> >>     Dr Jeremy Malcolm >>     Iliya Bazlyankov >>     Ginger Paque >>     Charity Gamboa-Embley >>     Sonigitu Ekpe >>     Adam Peake >>     Kerry Brown >>     Ian Peter >>     Thomas Lowenhaupt >>     Baudouin Schombe >>     Sunil Abraham >>     Shaila Mistry >>     Wilson Abigaba >>     Dixie Hawtin >>     Julián Casasbuenas G. >> >>     10 more to go by the end of April. >>     Please consider yourself. >> >>     izumi >> >> >> >>     -- >> >> >>     -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >>     ____________________________________________________________ >>     You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>          governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>     To be removed from the list, visit: >>          http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >>     For all other list information and functions, see: >>          http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>     To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>          http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >>     Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> >> >>     -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >>     ____________________________________________________________ >>     You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>          governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>     >>     To be removed from the list, visit: >>          http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >>     For all other list information and functions, see: >>          http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>     To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>          http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >>     Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org > executive director, association for progressive communications > www.apc.org > po box 29755, melville 2109 > south africa > tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Sat Apr 28 04:36:10 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:36:10 +0900 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> Message-ID: Dear all, It looks like we have good slate of people in Geneva, missing some like Bill and Marilia, though. So I propose to meet at 4 pm. I will work on the venue and announce it asap. I also like to propose to have a quick meeting every morning at ILO during MAG meeting, and wrap-up on May 17 after the meeting, possible dinner, Any suggestion is welcome. izumi 2012/4/27 Katitza Rodriguez : > +1 > > > On 4/27/12 2:28 PM, Lara Pace wrote: >> >> Izumi, >> >> I will be in Geneva 13th - 17th May. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Lara >> >> >> Lara Pace, Communications Officer >> m: (356) 9945  7756 |  e: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt >> >> ALFIR, Reggie Miller Street, Gzira, GZR 1541, MALTA >> w: www.comnet.org.mt  |  t: (356) 21 323393 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27/04/2012 14:25, "tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn" >>  wrote: >> >>> Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Tijani BEN JEMAA >>> Vice Président de la CIC >>> Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs >>> Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 >>> Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 >>> Télécopie  : + 216 70 825 231 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de Izumi >>> AIZU >>> Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 >>> À : governance >>> Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? >>> >>> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF >>> MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop on May >>> 18. >>> >>> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare for >>> the >>> MAG meeting >>> >>> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, >>> when >>> to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, Monday. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> izumi >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >>> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >>> Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 >>> La >>> Base de données des virus a expiré. >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of > speech since 1990 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn Sat Apr 28 04:54:33 2012 From: tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn (tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:54:33 +0100 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> Message-ID: <005001cd251c$87fe89d0$97fb9d70$@planet.tn> It works for me. ------------------------------------------------------------ Tijani BEN JEMAA Vice Président de la CIC Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs Téléphone : + 216 70 825 231 Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 Télécopie  : + 216 70 825 231 ------------------------------------------------------------ -----Message d'origine----- De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de Izumi AIZU Envoyé : samedi 28 avril 2012 09:36 À : governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Katitza Rodriguez Cc : Lara Pace Objet : Re: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? Dear all, It looks like we have good slate of people in Geneva, missing some like Bill and Marilia, though. So I propose to meet at 4 pm. I will work on the venue and announce it asap. I also like to propose to have a quick meeting every morning at ILO during MAG meeting, and wrap-up on May 17 after the meeting, possible dinner, Any suggestion is welcome. izumi 2012/4/27 Katitza Rodriguez : > +1 > > > On 4/27/12 2:28 PM, Lara Pace wrote: >> >> Izumi, >> >> I will be in Geneva 13th - 17th May. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Lara >> >> >> Lara Pace, Communications Officer >> m: (356) 9945  7756 |  e: lara.pace at comnet.org.mt >> >> ALFIR, Reggie Miller Street, Gzira, GZR 1541, MALTA >> w: www.comnet.org.mt  |  t: (356) 21 >> 323393 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27/04/2012 14:25, "tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn" >>  wrote: >> >>> Yes Izumi, I will be there on 14 >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Tijani BEN JEMAA >>> Vice Président de la CIC >>> Fédération Mondiale des Organisations d’Ingénieurs Téléphone : + 216 >>> 70 825 231 Tél Mobile : + 216 98 330 114 Télécopie  : + 216 70 825 >>> 231 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] De la part de >>> Izumi AIZU Envoyé : vendredi 27 avril 2012 01:31 À : governance >>> Objet : [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? >>> >>> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and >>> also IGF MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation >>> workshop on May 18. >>> >>> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare >>> for the MAG meeting >>> >>> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that >>> time, when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on >>> May 14, Monday. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> izumi >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. >>> Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr >>> Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: >>> 24/07/2011 La Base de données des virus a expiré. >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> >> > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and > freedom of speech since 1990 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org ----- Aucun virus trouvé dans ce message. Analyse effectuée par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 10.0.1390 / Base de données virale: 1518/3785 - Date: 24/07/2011 La Base de données des virus a expiré. -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Sat Apr 28 05:53:21 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:53:21 +0900 Subject: [governance] Re: May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: <005001cd251c$87fe89d0$97fb9d70$@planet.tn> References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> <005001cd251c$87fe89d0$97fb9d70$@planet.tn> Message-ID: Dear all, Jovan Kurbalija of DiploFoundation kindly agreed to our request for the meeting room. So we will have a preparatory meeting followed by an optional dinner at the nearby restaurant. Time/Date: 16:00 - 18:00 Monday, May 14, Venue: DiploFoundation 56, Rue de Lausanne. Geneva Phone:+41 22 741 0420 Please send your ideas about the topics we like to discuss there. izumi -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From qshatti at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 06:30:48 2012 From: qshatti at gmail.com (Qusai AlShatti) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:30:48 +0300 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> <005001cd251c$87fe89d0$97fb9d70$@planet.tn> Message-ID: Dear Izumi & all: I will be there too. Thank you for the effort to arrange this meeting. I would kindly request to shift the meeting time from 16:00-18:00 to 18:00-20:00. I am requesting this because there is a session about Partnership on measuring ICT for development which will take place between 14:45 - 18:00 and I am planning to attend it. Beside if we end the meeting on 20:00, it will be more suitable time for dinner. If the place is an issue, I will be staying at the Epsom manotel and we can meet there. It is close to rue Lausanne. Best Regards, Qusai AlShatti On Saturday, April 28, 2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: > Dear all, > Jovan Kurbalija of DiploFoundation kindly agreed to our request for > the meeting room. > So we will have a preparatory meeting followed by an optional dinner > at the nearby > restaurant. > > Time/Date: 16:00 - 18:00 Monday, May 14, > Venue: DiploFoundation > 56, Rue de Lausanne. Geneva > Phone:+41 22 741 0420 > > Please send your ideas about the topics we like to discuss there. > > izumi > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From baudouin.schombe at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 06:40:43 2012 From: baudouin.schombe at gmail.com (Baudouin Schombe) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:40:43 +0100 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will be in Geneva from 21 to 25 for CSTD meeting Baudouin 2012/4/27 Izumi AIZU > I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF > MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop > on May 18. > > I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare > for the MAG meeting > > Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, > when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, > Monday. > > Thanks, > > izumi > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN CENTRE AFRICAIN D'ECHANGE CULTUREL/ ACADEMIE DES TIC FACILITATEUR GAID/AFRIQUE Membre At-Large Member NCSG Member email:baudouin.schombe at gmail.com baudouin.schombe at ticafrica.net tél:+243998983491 skype:b.schombe wite web:http://webmail.ticafrica.net blog:http://akimambo.unblog.fr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu Sat Apr 28 08:18:27 2012 From: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu (Peter H. Hellmonds ) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:18:27 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9A5F1F.3090806@itforchange.net> References: <4F9A5F1F.3090806@itforchange.net> Message-ID: <9FE1637D-BFEA-451C-9C5D-DF754B70196C@hellmonds.eu> +1 Very glad to see such able new MAG members. Warm regards, Peter Peter H. Hellmonds Public & International Affairs Phone: +49 (160) 360-2852 E-Mail: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu On 27.04.2012, at 10:55, parminder wrote: Congratulations to Izumi, Anriette, Bill and Vladi. Together with Graciela, Valeria and Qusai, they form a good team. Parminder On Thursday 26 April 2012 03:04 AM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > > Dear All, > > The Rotated MAG has been announced by the UN / IGF Secretariat. > > A UN press release for the renewed MAG has been issued and is > available at : http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/pi2025.doc.htm > > List of MAG > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/941-mag-2012- > > I congratulate all the IGC Members that have been selected to the MAG. > It was indeed a pleasure to have served on the MAG and been nominated > by IGC for this important role. I look forward to contribute and > support the new MAG members. > > Take care all! > > ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu Sat Apr 28 08:22:58 2012 From: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu (Peter H. Hellmonds ) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:22:58 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> Hi Roland, MAG members are free and encouraged to provide information to their stakeholder groups, as long as they respect Charham House rules which say you should not attribute anything specific to a particular person. But one could say, for example, that issue X has been contentious between gov and civ soc for this or that reason. That a few proponents were in favor of solution Y but were opposed by a small number who favored Z. Regards, Peter H. Hellmonds Public & International Affairs Phone: +49 (160) 360-2852 E-Mail: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu On 27.04.2012, at 13:35, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:27:11 on Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Izumi AIZU writes > And I quite agree with Ginger that we should have more active linkage > between CS and MAG members. I will try my best but really need "input" > from all members. How much feedback are you allowed to give the members? That's always been the thing I've found to be somewhat lacking - but if sworn to secrecy is understandable. -- Roland Perry ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From aizu at anr.org Sat Apr 28 09:11:40 2012 From: aizu at anr.org (Izumi AIZU) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:11:40 +0900 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9AD856.2050408@eff.org> References: <4F9A8F66.9050503@eff.org> <4F9AB305.3030201@eff.org> <4F9ABC14.10108@eff.org> <4F9AC1B6.8070106@eff.org> <4F9AD856.2050408@eff.org> Message-ID: Dear all, Thank you for the very rich discussion about how to establish and improve linkages between CS MAG members and Civil Society at large, including, but not limited to, in my opinion, IGC. Thee is online archive of (closed) MAG-only mailing list, with manual filtering. I have not read them much, though. Within the Chatham House Rule, I will try to share the MAG works. Yet maybe reporting is less of a problem than bringing CS input into MAG process effectively and timely, I feel. For this, I think CS MAG members nominated by IGC should work together, as much as possible, but with good diversity of views and and division of labor as well. I don't think IGC should claim to be the sole representative or channel of civil society to MAG. While I can ask other CS MAG members to subscribe to our list, making it sounds like compulsory is not a good idea. This does not mean that IGC nominated MAG members should isolate from other CS MAG members, at all, but rather a broader cooperation is of course important, too. MAG members are now tasked to evaluate all Workshop proposals by May 7 and that be collated by the secretariat for the basis of the final selection of Workshops. Here, I think, MAG member should act on their own, not bringing too much "interest" of constituency directly to the review, but on the other hand, we have to be faithful to the values we subscribe to. A balanced approach is really needed. izumi 2012/4/28 Katitza Rodriguez : > Hi Roland, > > I have no strong opinions in one way or another re: reporting. It could be > everyone (it could be one).  Most of the hard word is done online.. in > mailing list....I think Marilia explained clear some of the challenges not > only to report but also to gather feedback that was actually useful in the > right moment. I think now, we have more civil society in the MAG who have > recently committed to actually do the work, and divided the tasks (reporting > AND doing the work) both are important. > > > > On 4/27/12 7:19 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >> >> >>> Usually, you do so in other processes.  Also I said that because there >>> might be people from civil society who might not be in the list or at least >>> I havent read an email from them). >> >> >> This goes back to the question of whether the Civil Society members of the >> MAG are representative of [only] the IGC, or of a wider Civil Society >> movement. As far as I can see, only three of the seven IGC nominees were >> selected, so perhaps there's "life outside the IGC" as well? > > Definitely yes. This is not my opinion, I just sharing what I think it have > never been addressed. > > Katitza > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > --                         >> Izumi Aizu <<           Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo            Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,                                   Japan                                  * * * * *            << Writing the Future of the History >>                                 www.anr.org -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From fulvio.frati at unimi.it Sat Apr 28 10:00:20 2012 From: fulvio.frati at unimi.it (Fulvio Frati) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:00:20 +0200 Subject: [governance] Deadline Approaching: SIMPDA 2012 - 2nd International Symposium on Data-driven Process Discovery and Analysis Message-ID: <014d01cd2547$42014e60$c603eb20$@unimi.it> [Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message] -- Second International Symposium on Data-driven Process Discovery and Analysis -- ********************************** SIMPDA 2012 ********************************** IFIP Working Groups 2.6 and 2.12/12.4 18 -20 June, 2012 - Campione d’Italia, Italy --WWW----WWW----WWW-- http://sesar.dti.unimi.it/SIMPDA2012/ --WWW----WWW----WWW-- >> About SIMPDA With the increasing automation of business processes, growing amounts of process data become available. 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Research plans should be at most of 4 page long and should be organized following the following structure: - Abstract: summarizes, in 5 line, the research aims and significance. - Research Question: defines what will be accomplished by eliciting the relevant the research questions - Background: defines the background knowledge providing the 5 most relevant references (papers or books). - Significance: explains the relevance of the general topic and of the specific contribution. - Research design and methods: describes and motivates the method adopted focusing on: assumptions, solutions, data sources, validation of results, limitations of the approach. - Research stage: describes what the student has done so far. SIMPDA PhD award A doctoral award will be recognized by the SIMPDA PhD Jury for the best research plan submitted. Tutored research activities Interested PhD students can apply to carry out pre-symposium tutored research activities. Such activities provide a unique way to identify research questions and will culminate with presentations to be given at the symposium. In order to apply, please contact paolo.ceravolo at unimi.it Student scholarships An application for a limited number of scholarships aimed at students coming from emerging countries has been submitted to IFIP. In order to apply, please contact paolo.ceravolo at unimi.it >> Call for Demonstrations and Posters Demonstrations showcase innovative technology and applications, allowing for sharing research work directly with colleagues in a high-visibility setting. Demonstration proposals should consist of a title, an extended abstract, and contact information for the authors, and should not exceed 2 pages. Posters allow the presentation of late-breaking results in an informal, interactive manner. Poster proposals should consist of a title, an extended abstract, contact information for the authors, and should not exceed 2 pages. Accepted demonstrations and posters will be presented at the symposium. Abstracts will appear in the proceedings. --- ORGANIZATION --- >> GENERAL CHAIRS Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Philippe Coudre-Mauroux, University of Fribourg, Switzerland Dragan Gasevic, Athabasca University, Canada >> ADVISORY BOARD Tharam Dillon, DEBII, Curtin University, Australia Ernesto Damiani, Università degli Studi di Milano Moataz A. Ahmed, KFUPM, Saudi Arabia Elizabeth Chang, DEBII, Curtin University, Australia Erich Neuhold, University of Vienna, Austria Karl Aberer, EPFL Lausanne, Switzerland >> DEMONSTRATION AND SHOWCASE COMMITTEE Elizabeth Chang, DEBII, Curtin University, Australia Christian Guetl, Graz University of Technology, Austria PUBLICITY CHAIR Matthew Smith, Leibniz University Hannover, Germany >> PhD. AWARD COMMITTEE Gregorio Piccoli, Zucchetti spa, Italy Paolo Ceravolo, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy Farookh Hussain, Curtin University, Perth, Australia >> WEB CHAIR Fulvio Frati, Università degli Studi di Milano, Italy --- ACCOMMODATION AND VENUE --- Campione d'Italia is a town of about 2300 inhabitants set on the southeastern shore of Lake Lugano on a narrow strip of Italian land surrounded by Switzerland that boasts remarkable historical and artistic traditions. Campione d'Italia, is one of five European exclaves. All conference activities will take place in the Municipal Casino of Campione. More info on: sesar.dti.unimi.it/SIMPDA2012 www.campioneitalia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the same way as SOPA or no SOPA, whether through the intervention of courts or just through executive decrees or 'requests', a global infrastructure of collaboration between US gov and US Internet companies is already in place in the area of global IP enforcement (read economic extraction), and keeps getting strenghtened. We see the clear and unmistakable building of a unipolar power system anchored in the US, whereby the architecture of the Internet (technical as well as socio-technical) is being shaped and put into service for consolidation of political, military, economic, social and cultural power. Does this have no implications on people's political, economic, social and cultural rights, individually and collectively? What response does the civil society in IG space has to such huge geo-political/ -economic/ -social/ -cutural tectonics, which is shaping the power equations of a new world? I am sure it can do better than just employing its ammunition against an India, Brazil or South Africa (IBSA) when these countries raise alarm over the unipolar concentration of power in the information society employing the Internet, and seek a democratic global platform where these issues can be discussed and if needed contested. Unfortunately, another most significant information society change is the emergence of a new global middle class, especially in developing countries, that sees their social and political identity and constituency as an amalgamated global rich or richness-aspirant class. This new class is ready to cede political leadership to the US, in preference to the political establishments in their home countries, even if they are largely or considerably democratic (at least no less than the US is). And this emergent class is so powerful in their 'home' countries that they can influence their political establishments in the wrong directions, often blinding them to what is manifestly happening in terms of consolidation of all kinds of power with and in the US, and the role of Internet, and Internet (non ?) governance in this process. Just my two cents of home made theory :). parminder On Saturday 28 April 2012 01:08 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: > > > Cispa cybersecurity bill passed by House of Representatives > > Republican-controlled House defies Obama over legislation to prevent > electronic attacks on US > > * > o > > * > Associated Press in Washington > * guardian.co.uk , Friday 27 April > 2012 10.12 BST > * Article history > > > > > House speaker John Boehner: 'The White House believes the government > ought to control the internet.' Photograph: Jacquelyn Martin/AP > > The House of Representatives has ignored objections from Barack > Obama's administration and approved legislation aimed at helping to > thwart electronic attacks on critical US infrastructure and private > companies. > > On a bipartisan vote of 248-168, the Republican-controlled House > backed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (Cispa > ), which would encourage > companies and the federal government to share information collected on > the internet to > prevent electronic attacks from cybercriminals, foreign governments > and terrorists. > > "This is the last bastion of things we need to do to protect this > country," Republican Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence > committee, said after more than five hours of debate. > > More than 10 years after the September 11 terror attacks in 2001, > proponents cast the bill as an initial step to deal with an evolving > threat of the internet age. The information-sharing would be voluntary > to avoid imposing new regulations on businesses, an imperative for > Republicans. > > The legislation would allow the government to relay cyber threat > information to a company to prevent attacks from Russia or China. In > the private sector, corporations could alert the government and > provide data that could stop an attack intended to disrupt the > country's water supply or take down the banking system. > > > > The Obama administration > has threatened > a veto of the House bill, preferring a Senate measure that would give > the homeland security department the primary role in overseeing > domestic cybersecurity and the authority to set security standards. > That Senate bill remains stalled. > > The Republican House speaker, John Boehner, said the administration's > approach was misguided. > > "The White House believes the government ought to control the > internet, government ought to set standards and government ought to > take care of everything that's needed for cybersecurity," Boehner told > reporters at his weekly news conference. "They're in a camp all by > themselves." > > Faced with widespread privacy > concerns, Rogers and > Republican CA "Dutch" Ruppersberger , the intelligence panel's top > Democrat, pulled together an amendment that limits the government's > use of threat information to five specific purposes: cybersecurity; > investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crimes; protection of > individuals from death or serious bodily harm; protection of minors > from child pornography; and the protection of national security. > > The House passed the amendment by 410 votes to three. > > The White House, along with a coalition of liberal and conservative > groups and lawmakers, strongly opposed the measure, complaining that > Americans' privacy could be violated. They argued that companies could > share an employee's personal information with the government, data > that could end up in the hands of officials from the National Security > Agency or the defence department. They also challenged the bill's > liability waiver for private companies that disclose information, > complaining it was too broad. > > "Once in government hands, this information can be used for undefined > 'national security' purposes unrelated to cybersecurity," a coalition > that included the American Civil Liberties Union and former > conservative Republican representative Bob Barr, lawmakers said on > Thursday. > > Echoing those concerns were several Republicans and Democrats who > warned of potential government spying on its citizens with the help of > employers. > > "In an effort to foster information sharing, this bill would erode the > privacy protections of every single American using the internet. It > would create a 'wild west' of information sharing," said Bennie > Thompson of Mississippi, the leading Democrat on the House homeland > security committee. > > Republican representative Joe Barton said: "Until we protect the > privacy rights of our citizens, the solution is worse than the problem." > > Countering criticism of Big Brother run amok, proponents argued that > the bill does not allow the government to monitor private networks, > read private emails or close a website. It urges companies that share > data to remove personal information. > > "There is no government surveillance, none, not any in this bill," > Rogers said. > > Among the amendments the House approved was one by Republican Justin > Amash that put certain personal information off limits: library, > medical and gun sale records, tax returns and education documents. > > "I don't know why the government would want to snoop through library > records or tax returns to counter the cybersecurity threat," Amash said. > > The House approved his amendment by 415-0. > > Trumping any privacy concerns were the national security argument, > always powerful in an election year, and Republicans' political desire > to complete a bill that would then force the Democratic-led Senate to act. > > The Obama administration backs a Senate bill sponsored by senators Joe > Lieberman, an Independent, and Republican Susan Collins, that gives > homeland security the authority to establish security standards. > > However, that legislation faces opposition from senior Senate Republicans. > > Arizona senator John McCain, the leading Republican on the Senate > armed services committee, said during a hearing last month that the > homeland security department was "probably the most inefficient > bureaucracy that I have ever encountered" and was ill-equipped to > determine how best to secure the nation's essential infrastructure. > McCain has introduced a competing bill. > > . This article was amended on Friday 27 April to correct a mistake in > the headline. It originally said the bill had been passed by the > Senate. This has been corrected. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Big Data could know us better than we know ourselves http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/Data+could+know+better+than+know+ourselves /6524781/story.html#ixzz1tLaFPFnK M -----Original Message----- From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of parminder Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:07 AM To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] Cispa cybersecurity bill passed by House of Representatives This is merely a formalisation of the existing, and far-reaching, collaboration between the US gov and US digital/Internet business in the 'national security' space. In the same way as SOPA or no SOPA, whether through the intervention of courts or just through executive decrees or 'requests', a global infrastructure of collaboration between US gov and US Internet companies is already in place in the area of global IP enforcement (read economic extraction), and keeps getting strenghtened. We see the clear and unmistakable building of a unipolar power system anchored in the US, whereby the architecture of the Internet (technical as well as socio-technical) is being shaped and put into service for consolidation of political, military, economic, social and cultural power. Does this have no implications on people's political, economic, social and cultural rights, individually and collectively? What response does the civil society in IG space has to such huge geo-political/ -economic/ -social/ -cutural tectonics, which is shaping the power equations of a new world? I am sure it can do better than just employing its ammunition against an India, Brazil or South Africa (IBSA) when these countries raise alarm over the unipolar concentration of power in the information society employing the Internet, and seek a democratic global platform where these issues can be discussed and if needed contested. Unfortunately, another most significant information society change is the emergence of a new global middle class, especially in developing countries, that sees their social and political identity and constituency as an amalgamated global rich or richness-aspirant class. This new class is ready to cede political leadership to the US, in preference to the political establishments in their home countries, even if they are largely or considerably democratic (at least no less than the US is). And this emergent class is so powerful in their 'home' countries that they can influence their political establishments in the wrong directions, often blinding them to what is manifestly happening in terms of consolidation of all kinds of power with and in the US, and the role of Internet, and Internet (non ?) governance in this process. Just my two cents of home made theory :). parminder On Saturday 28 April 2012 01:08 AM, Riaz K Tayob wrote: Cispa cybersecurity bill passed by House of Representatives Republican-controlled House defies Obama over legislation to prevent electronic attacks on US * * * Associated Press in Washington * guardian.co.uk , Friday 27 April 2012 10.12 BST * Article history House speaker John Boehner: 'The White House believes the government ought to control the internet.' Photograph: Jacquelyn Martin/AP The House of Representatives has ignored objections from Barack Obama's administration and approved legislation aimed at helping to thwart electronic attacks on critical US infrastructure and private companies. On a bipartisan vote of 248-168, the Republican-controlled House backed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (Cispa ), which would encourage companies and the federal government to share information collected on the internet to prevent electronic attacks from cybercriminals, foreign governments and terrorists. "This is the last bastion of things we need to do to protect this country," Republican Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence committee, said after more than five hours of debate. More than 10 years after the September 11 terror attacks in 2001, proponents cast the bill as an initial step to deal with an evolving threat of the internet age. The information-sharing would be voluntary to avoid imposing new regulations on businesses, an imperative for Republicans. The legislation would allow the government to relay cyber threat information to a company to prevent attacks from Russia or China. In the private sector, corporations could alert the government and provide data that could stop an attack intended to disrupt the country's water supply or take down the banking system. The Obama administration has threatened a veto of the House bill, preferring a Senate measure that would give the homeland security department the primary role in overseeing domestic cybersecurity and the authority to set security standards. That Senate bill remains stalled. The Republican House speaker, John Boehner, said the administration's approach was misguided. "The White House believes the government ought to control the internet, government ought to set standards and government ought to take care of everything that's needed for cybersecurity," Boehner told reporters at his weekly news conference. "They're in a camp all by themselves." Faced with widespread privacy concerns, Rogers and Republican CA "Dutch" Ruppersberger , the intelligence panel's top Democrat, pulled together an amendment that limits the government's use of threat information to five specific purposes: cybersecurity; investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crimes; protection of individuals from death or serious bodily harm; protection of minors from child pornography; and the protection of national security. The House passed the amendment by 410 votes to three. The White House, along with a coalition of liberal and conservative groups and lawmakers, strongly opposed the measure, complaining that Americans' privacy could be violated. They argued that companies could share an employee's personal information with the government, data that could end up in the hands of officials from the National Security Agency or the defence department. They also challenged the bill's liability waiver for private companies that disclose information, complaining it was too broad. "Once in government hands, this information can be used for undefined 'national security' purposes unrelated to cybersecurity," a coalition that included the American Civil Liberties Union and former conservative Republican representative Bob Barr, lawmakers said on Thursday. Echoing those concerns were several Republicans and Democrats who warned of potential government spying on its citizens with the help of employers. "In an effort to foster information sharing, this bill would erode the privacy protections of every single American using the internet. It would create a 'wild west' of information sharing," said Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, the leading Democrat on the House homeland security committee. Republican representative Joe Barton said: "Until we protect the privacy rights of our citizens, the solution is worse than the problem." Countering criticism of Big Brother run amok, proponents argued that the bill does not allow the government to monitor private networks, read private emails or close a website. It urges companies that share data to remove personal information. "There is no government surveillance, none, not any in this bill," Rogers said. Among the amendments the House approved was one by Republican Justin Amash that put certain personal information off limits: library, medical and gun sale records, tax returns and education documents. "I don't know why the government would want to snoop through library records or tax returns to counter the cybersecurity threat," Amash said. The House approved his amendment by 415-0. Trumping any privacy concerns were the national security argument, always powerful in an election year, and Republicans' political desire to complete a bill that would then force the Democratic-led Senate to act. The Obama administration backs a Senate bill sponsored by senators Joe Lieberman, an Independent, and Republican Susan Collins, that gives homeland security the authority to establish security standards. However, that legislation faces opposition from senior Senate Republicans. Arizona senator John McCain, the leading Republican on the Senate armed services committee, said during a hearing last month that the homeland security department was "probably the most inefficient bureaucracy that I have ever encountered" and was ill-equipped to determine how best to secure the nation's essential infrastructure. McCain has introduced a competing bill. . This article was amended on Friday 27 April to correct a mistake in the headline. It originally said the bill had been passed by the Senate. This has been corrected. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After that, we will use the following sites to get random numbers and then make random selection defined in our Charter and Coordinator's manual: http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process http://www.igcaucus.org/manual-igc-coordinators The following national lottery results of the next Saturday, May 5 will be used for the selection. http://www.lottery.ie/ http://www.national-lottery.co.uk http://www.usamega.com/ Thank you for some more waiting, izumi -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 22:54:04 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:54:04 -0400 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] Message-ID: Warm Greetings, For some in the Southern Hemisphere, it's Autumn and for some in the Northern Hemisphere it's Spring and there are some like us in Fiji who are rebuilding following the aftermath of what was possibly the worst floods to hit the country. *Updates* We congratulate Louis Pouzin's induction into the Hall of Fame. We also celebrate with Dr Mawaki Chango on successfully defending his dissertation and for exploring the “*Future of Digital Identity*”. *IGC Statement to the MAG* ** This is a call for people to start giving thought to how we would like to craft our Statement for the MAG Meeting in Geneva next month. Kindly let us know if there are volunteers who would like to start getting the ball rolling on this by sending your thoughts and comments in a separate thread called IGC Statement to MAG within the subject line. This needs to start * asap.* *Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative* The IGC has been invited to be represented into the Steering Committee of the Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative. The IGC is mandated under the Charter to engage in strategic advocacy and this is a great opportunity to get involved. For those who are interested in being part of a working group within the IGC to engage in discussions on Cyber Security where we can discuss ideas, strategies, please email coordinators at igcaucus.org offlist to let us know of your interest. *Regional IGF Secretariats* ** This is a reminder for those organising IGFs within their regions and sub-regions to please send in their dates [offlist] to coordinators at igcaucus.orgso that we can update the Calendar. *IGC Improvements* There will be an ad hoc virtual meeting to discuss IGC improvements. For those who feel that they would like to get more involved within the IGC but are unclear of how to get more involved, kindly send an email indicating your interest to coordinators at igcaucus.org by the 12th May, 2012. We would like to set up an *ad hoc* group to evaluate how we have been working according to the Charter and to see how things can be improved. *NomCom Pool* Thank you for all those who have been volunteering to have their names be part of the NomCom Pool. As per the Charter, the NomCom process will be activated as per http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process Kind Regards, -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +1 <%2B679%20998%202851> 202.262.555.7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 23:09:21 2012 From: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com (Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 23:09:21 -0400 Subject: [governance] MAG Consultations May 15 - May 17, 2012 [IGC Statement - Call for Perspectives/Comments] Message-ID: Dear All, As per the Update and general threads of discussions, the MAG Consultation meeting will be held between May 15th and May 17th of 2012 in Geneva. For those who would like more information, kindly visit http://www.intgovforum.org To start the ball rolling, here is a Draft Skeletal Outline that is waiting for comments:- - *Introduction* - *[Substantive Comments - Insert][Substantive Comments - Insert]* - *[Substantive Comments - Insert]* - *[Substantive Comments - Insert]* - *[Substantive Comments - Insert]* - *Conclusion* The IGC had worked on Themes for the last MAG consultation and we can use the material already collated where relevant and necessary. However if there are additional things that people feel require emphasis or highlighting, please raise them. From some of the threads so far people have raised concern over Human Rights violations and logistics etc. What do you propose as key questions that we should ask amongst ourselves in order to generate discussion and stimulate thought as we work together to craft our Statement? 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Suggest we not take the kind offer to join the commonwealth initiative on cybersecurity. However, if we were to do so, then best to spread the workload and have a nomcom process to identify a representative. The co-coordinators are "coordinators" not "representatives" I think this has been an important principle since the caucus began in WSIS. Thanks, Adam On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote: > Warm Greetings, > > > > For some in the Southern Hemisphere, it's Autumn and for some in the > Northern Hemisphere it's Spring and there are some like us in Fiji who are > rebuilding following the aftermath of what was possibly the worst floods to > hit the country. > > > > Updates > > > >  We congratulate Louis Pouzin's induction into the Hall of Fame.  We also > celebrate with Dr Mawaki Chango on successfully defending his dissertation > and for exploring the “Future of Digital Identity”. > > IGC Statement to the MAG > > This is a call for people to start giving thought to how we would like to > craft our Statement for the MAG Meeting in Geneva next month. Kindly let us > know if there are volunteers who would like to start getting the ball > rolling on this by sending your thoughts and comments in a separate thread > called IGC Statement to MAG within the subject line. This needs to start > asap. > > Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative > > > > The IGC has been invited to be represented into the Steering Committee of > the Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative. The IGC is mandated under the > Charter to engage in strategic advocacy and this is a great opportunity to > get involved. For those who are interested in being part of a working group > within the IGC to engage in discussions on Cyber Security where we can > discuss ideas, strategies, please email coordinators at igcaucus.org offlist to > let us know of your interest. > > Regional IGF Secretariats > > This is a reminder for those organising IGFs within their regions and > sub-regions to please send in their dates [offlist] to > coordinators at igcaucus.orgso that we can update the Calendar. > > IGC Improvements > > There will be an ad hoc virtual meeting to discuss IGC improvements.  For > those who feel that they would like to get more involved within the IGC but > are unclear of how to get more involved, kindly send an email indicating > your interest to coordinators at igcaucus.org by the 12th May, 2012. We would > like to set up an ad hoc group to evaluate how we have been working > according to the Charter and to see how things can be improved. > > NomCom Pool > > Thank you for all those who have been volunteering to have their names be > part of the NomCom Pool. As per the Charter, the NomCom process will be > activated as per http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process > > Kind Regards, > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +1 202.262.555.7 > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From william.drake at uzh.ch Sun Apr 29 03:09:37 2012 From: william.drake at uzh.ch (William Drake) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:09:37 +0200 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> +1. Reaching consensus and being effective in IGF has become difficult enough, trying to spread our attention into another space seems ill-advised. Nothing prevents members from participating elsewhere in a personal capacity and letting the list know if there's something happening of particular interest like a statement to support etc. Best Bill On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:37, Adam Peake wrote: > I think the caucus should focus on its core business, IGF. Suggest we > not take the kind offer to join the commonwealth initiative on > cybersecurity. > > However, if we were to do so, then best to spread the workload and > have a nomcom process to identify a representative. The > co-coordinators are "coordinators" not "representatives" I think this > has been an important principle since the caucus began in WSIS. > > Thanks, > > Adam > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro > wrote: >> Warm Greetings, >> >> >> >> For some in the Southern Hemisphere, it's Autumn and for some in the >> Northern Hemisphere it's Spring and there are some like us in Fiji who are >> rebuilding following the aftermath of what was possibly the worst floods to >> hit the country. >> >> >> >> Updates >> >> >> >> We congratulate Louis Pouzin's induction into the Hall of Fame. We also >> celebrate with Dr Mawaki Chango on successfully defending his dissertation >> and for exploring the “Future of Digital Identity”. >> >> IGC Statement to the MAG >> >> This is a call for people to start giving thought to how we would like to >> craft our Statement for the MAG Meeting in Geneva next month. Kindly let us >> know if there are volunteers who would like to start getting the ball >> rolling on this by sending your thoughts and comments in a separate thread >> called IGC Statement to MAG within the subject line. This needs to start >> asap. >> >> Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative >> >> >> >> The IGC has been invited to be represented into the Steering Committee of >> the Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative. The IGC is mandated under the >> Charter to engage in strategic advocacy and this is a great opportunity to >> get involved. For those who are interested in being part of a working group >> within the IGC to engage in discussions on Cyber Security where we can >> discuss ideas, strategies, please email coordinators at igcaucus.org offlist to >> let us know of your interest. >> >> Regional IGF Secretariats >> >> This is a reminder for those organising IGFs within their regions and >> sub-regions to please send in their dates [offlist] to >> coordinators at igcaucus.orgso that we can update the Calendar. >> >> IGC Improvements >> >> There will be an ad hoc virtual meeting to discuss IGC improvements. For >> those who feel that they would like to get more involved within the IGC but >> are unclear of how to get more involved, kindly send an email indicating >> your interest to coordinators at igcaucus.org by the 12th May, 2012. We would >> like to set up an ad hoc group to evaluate how we have been working >> according to the Charter and to see how things can be improved. >> >> NomCom Pool >> >> Thank you for all those who have been volunteering to have their names be >> part of the NomCom Pool. As per the Charter, the NomCom process will be >> activated as per http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process >> >> Kind Regards, >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +1 202.262.555.7 >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Sun Apr 29 04:22:37 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:22:37 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> Message-ID: <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> In message <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3 at hellmonds.eu>, at 14:22:58 on Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Peter H. Hellmonds writes >MAG members are free and encouraged to provide information to their >stakeholder groups, as long as they respect Charham House rules which >say you should not attribute anything specific to a particular person. > >But one could say, for example, that issue X has been contentious >between gov and civ soc for this or that reason. That a few proponents >were in favor of solution Y but were opposed by a small number who >favored Z. That's certainly the case for the formal meetings (although now observers are allowed, it's harder to keep the Chatham House aspect going). What I haven't seen much evidence of is MAG members (eg) bringing their stakeholder group's input into discussions of the "traffic light" rating selection of workshops, or keeping them up to date with news from the mailing list. For example, have any (would any/should any) MAG members broken the news "early" that the Baku Forum has been moved to the Expo Centre - surely they were the first to know? -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu Sun Apr 29 05:00:12 2012 From: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu (Peter H. Hellmonds ) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:00:12 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> Message-ID: <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> Roland, Observers should obviously respect the Chatham House rule as well, as the intent of that rule is to encourage free and open exchange of MAG members acting without the constraints of their official affiliation. There is no rule preventing any MAG member from reporting back or from seeking input into the workshop process or breaking the news, unless specifically asked to keep the news confidential. It's up to the MAG member to make the determination on what can be disclosed. I guess the problem is often simply information overflow and not enough time to digest it all. Regards, Peter Peter H. Hellmonds Public & International Affairs Phone: +49 (160) 360-2852 E-Mail: peter.hellmonds at hellmonds.eu On 29.04.2012, at 10:22, Roland Perry wrote: In message <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3 at hellmonds.eu>, at 14:22:58 on Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Peter H. Hellmonds writes > MAG members are free and encouraged to provide information to their stakeholder groups, as long as they respect Charham House rules which say you should not attribute anything specific to a particular person. > > But one could say, for example, that issue X has been contentious between gov and civ soc for this or that reason. That a few proponents were in favor of solution Y but were opposed by a small number who favored Z. That's certainly the case for the formal meetings (although now observers are allowed, it's harder to keep the Chatham House aspect going). What I haven't seen much evidence of is MAG members (eg) bringing their stakeholder group's input into discussions of the "traffic light" rating selection of workshops, or keeping them up to date with news from the mailing list. For example, have any (would any/should any) MAG members broken the news "early" that the Baku Forum has been moved to the Expo Centre - surely they were the first to know? -- Roland Perry ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 05:01:34 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:01:34 +0300 Subject: [governance] "you are all suspects now. what are you going to do about it?" - on wikileaks... In-Reply-To: <4F9CF6DB.3040709@bluewin.ch> References: <4F9CF6DB.3040709@bluewin.ch> Message-ID: <4F9D036E.20508@gmail.com> You Are All Suspects Now. What Are You Going to Do About It? Saturday, 28 April 2012 08:01 By John Pilger, Truthout | News Analysis * 447 US Soldiers(Photo: isafmedia / Flickr ) You are all potential terrorists. It matters not that you live in Britain, the United States, Australia or the Middle East. Citizenship is effectively abolished. Turn on your computer and the US Department of Homeland Security's National Operations Center may monitor whether you are typing not merely "al-Qaeda," but "exercise," "drill," "wave," "initiative" and "organization": all proscribed words. The British government's announcement that it intends to spy on every email and phone call is old hat. The satellite vacuum cleaner known as Echelon has been doing this for years. What has changed is that a state of permanent war has been launched by the United States and *a police state is consuming Western democracy.* What are you going to do about it? In Britain, on instructions from the CIA, secret courts are to deal with "terror suspects." Habeas Corpus is dying. *The European Court of Human Rights has ruled that five men, including three British citizens, can be extradited to the US _even though none except one has been charged with a crime_*. All have been imprisoned for years under the 2003 US/UK Extradition Treaty which was signed one month after the criminal invasion of Iraq. The European Court had condemned the treaty as likely to lead to "cruel and unusual punishment." One of the men, Babar Ahmad, was awarded 63,000 pounds compensation for 73 recorded injuries he sustained in the custody of the Metropolitan Police. Sexual abuse, the signature of fascism, was high on the list. Another man is a schizophrenic, who has suffered a complete mental collapse and is in Broadmoor secure hospital; another is a suicide risk. To the Land of the Free they go - along with young Richard O'Dwyer, who faces ten years in shackles and an orange jump suit because he allegedly infringed US copyright on the Internet. As the law is politicized and Americanized, these travesties are not untypical. In upholding the conviction of a London university student, Mohammed Gul, for disseminating "terrorism" on the Internet, *appeal court judges in London ruled that "acts ... against the armed forces of a state anywhere in the world which sought to influence a government and were made for political purposes" were now crimes*. Call to the dock Thomas Paine, Aung San Suu Kyi, Nelson Mandela. What are you going to do about it? The prognosis is clear now: the malignancy that Norman Mailer called "pre fascist" has metastasized. The US Attorney General, Eric Holder, defends the "right" of his government to assassinate American citizens. Israel, the protégé, is allowed to aim its nukes at nukeless Iran. In this looking glass world, the lying is panoramic. *The massacre of 17 Afghan civilians on 11 March, including at least nine children and four women, is attributed to a "rogue" American soldier. The_"authenticity" of this was vouched by President Obama himself, who had "seen a video" and regarded it as "conclusive proof." _An independent Afghan parliamentary investigation produced eyewitnesses who give detailed evidence of as many as 20 soldiers, aided by a helicopter, ravaging their villages, killing and raping*: a standard, if marginally more murderous, US Special Forces "night raid." Take away the videogame technology of killing - America's contribution to modernity - and the behavior is traditional. Immersed in comic-book righteousness, poorly or brutally trained, frequently racist, obese and led by a corrupt officer class, American forces transfer the homicide of home to faraway places whose impoverished struggles they cannot comprehend. _*A nation founded on the genocide of the native population never quite kicks the habit.*_ Vietnam was "Indian country" and its "slits" and "gooks" were to be "blown away. The blowing away of hundreds of mostly women and children in the Vietnamese village of My Lai in 1968 was also a "rogue" incident and, profanely, an "American tragedy" (the cover headline of Newsweek). Only one of 26 men prosecuted was convicted and he was let go by President Richard Nixon. My Lai is in Quang Ngai Province where, as I learned as a reporter, an estimated 50,000 people were killed by American troops, mostly in what they called "free fire zones." This was the model of modern warfare: industrial murder. Like Iraq and Libya, Afghanistan is a theme park for the beneficiaries of America's new permanent war: NATO, the armaments and high-tech companies, the media and a "security" industry whose lucrative contamination is a contagion on everyday life. The conquest or "pacification" of territory is unimportant. What matters is the pacification of you, the cultivation of your indifference. What are you going to do about it? The descent into totalitarianism has landmarks. Any day now, the Supreme Court in London will decide whether WikiLeaks' editor, Julian Assange, is to be extradited to Sweden. Should this final appeal fail, the facilitator of truth-telling on an epic scale, who is charged with no crime, faces solitary confinement and interrogation on ludicrous sex allegations. Thanks to a secret deal between the US and Sweden, he can be "rendered" to the American gulag at any time. In his own country, Australia, Prime Minister Julia Gillard has conspired with those in Washington she calls her "true mates" to ensure her innocent fellow citizen is fitted for his orange jump suit just in case he should make it home. In February, her government wrote a "WikiLeaks Amendment" to the extradition treaty between Australia and the US that makes it easier for her "mates" to get their hands on him. She has even given them the power of approval over Freedom of Information searches - so that the world outside can be lied to, as is customary. What are you going to do about it? John Pilger John Pilger, Australian-born, London-based journalist, film-maker and author. For his foreign and war reporting, ranging from Vietnam and Cambodia to the Middle East, he has twice won Britain's highest award for journalism. For his documentary films, he won a British Academy Award and an American Emmy. In 2009, he was awarded Australia's human rights prize, the Sydney Peace Prize. 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However, Bill caught what what I was trying to say. Can we hold off doing anything on the Commonwealth (or even discussing if we should) until after the May consultation. No more distractions, let's get some comments in, and then support the new MAG members. I'll send some comments on the May consultation to a new thread. Thanks, Adam On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:09 PM, William Drake wrote: > +1.  Reaching consensus and being effective in IGF has become difficult enough, trying to spread our attention into another space seems ill-advised.  Nothing prevents members from participating elsewhere in a personal capacity and letting the list know if there's something happening of particular interest like a statement to support etc. > > Best > > Bill > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:37, Adam Peake wrote: > >> I think the caucus should focus on its core business, IGF.  Suggest we >> not take the kind offer to join the commonwealth initiative on >> cybersecurity. >> >> However, if we were to do so, then best to spread the workload and >> have a nomcom process to identify a representative.  The >> co-coordinators are "coordinators" not "representatives"  I think this >> has been an important principle since the caucus began in WSIS. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro >> wrote: >>> Warm Greetings, >>> >>> >>> >>> For some in the Southern Hemisphere, it's Autumn and for some in the >>> Northern Hemisphere it's Spring and there are some like us in Fiji who are >>> rebuilding following the aftermath of what was possibly the worst floods to >>> hit the country. >>> >>> >>> >>> Updates >>> >>> >>> >>>  We congratulate Louis Pouzin's induction into the Hall of Fame.  We also >>> celebrate with Dr Mawaki Chango on successfully defending his dissertation >>> and for exploring the “Future of Digital Identity”. >>> >>> IGC Statement to the MAG >>> >>> This is a call for people to start giving thought to how we would like to >>> craft our Statement for the MAG Meeting in Geneva next month. Kindly let us >>> know if there are volunteers who would like to start getting the ball >>> rolling on this by sending your thoughts and comments in a separate thread >>> called IGC Statement to MAG within the subject line. This needs to start >>> asap. >>> >>> Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative >>> >>> >>> >>> The IGC has been invited to be represented into the Steering Committee of >>> the Commonwealth Cyber Security Initiative. The IGC is mandated under the >>> Charter to engage in strategic advocacy and this is a great opportunity to >>> get involved. For those who are interested in being part of a working group >>> within the IGC to engage in discussions on Cyber Security where we can >>> discuss ideas, strategies, please email coordinators at igcaucus.org offlist to >>> let us know of your interest. >>> >>> Regional IGF Secretariats >>> >>> This is a reminder for those organising IGFs within their regions and >>> sub-regions to please send in their dates [offlist] to >>> coordinators at igcaucus.orgso that we can update the Calendar. >>> >>> IGC Improvements >>> >>> There will be an ad hoc virtual meeting to discuss IGC improvements.  For >>> those who feel that they would like to get more involved within the IGC but >>> are unclear of how to get more involved, kindly send an email indicating >>> your interest to coordinators at igcaucus.org by the 12th May, 2012. We would >>> like to set up an ad hoc group to evaluate how we have been working >>> according to the Charter and to see how things can be improved. >>> >>> NomCom Pool >>> >>> Thank you for all those who have been volunteering to have their names be >>> part of the NomCom Pool. As per the Charter, the NomCom process will be >>> activated as per http://www.igcaucus.org/nomcom-process >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> -- >>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >>> >>> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >>> Cell: +1 202.262.555.7 >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Sun Apr 29 05:47:06 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:47:06 +0900 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input Message-ID: As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper (link should be http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should also be discussion of the workshop proposals. Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and the MAG meeting. Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving remote access (after my naïve comments...) Would be good if someone could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about how best to conduct remote access in Baku. The host country will need to know, and to prepare. Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) could prepare some recommendations? There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for people with disabilities. Shouldn't happen again. Might suggest to the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were raised. The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they aren't always. Would be good to have this on the agenda and acknowledged as a priority. 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Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be one of the main technical factors affecting remote access - something important to remember for this year. On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) were a great help. However - moderators do need some training in their function and therefore the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than English. Deirdre > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Sun Apr 29 07:31:11 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:31:11 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> Message-ID: <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> Hi On 4/29/12 11:00 AM, Peter H. Hellmonds wrote: > What I haven't seen much evidence of is MAG members (eg) bringing their stakeholder group's input into discussions of the "traffic light" rating selection of workshops, or keeping them up to date with news from the mailing list. Workshops have been reviewed collectively in the past through Google docs/excel through an invitation of a civil society MAG member to some members of the IGC or a few members of the IGC has been also invited to help in the organization of the main sessions (especially CIR) since we did not have a MAG from civil society with the knowledge on that topic: Izumi, Bill Drake, Marilia, and many others do so in previous year. I think, its up to new MAG to decide how they want to organize. BTW: Why changing the venue is a newsworthy event or it is just an informational one? Does it has an implication for civil society to raise awareness of their work in human rights? Unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend the meeting remotely (the connection was not working well for me ) and I haven't heard about it before. Any explanation on that point would be really helpful for me (who is trying to not get engage in "process work" but focus on the "substance". If there is a connection between the venue (current one) and the ability of civil society to do their work in that venue, that would be an important news that I also would like to know. Are we having problems with the venue? (I do not know). Katitza -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Sun Apr 29 07:38:56 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:38:56 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9D2850.2050108@eff.org> Some civil society MAG members have also provided to the IGF Secretariat a consolidated excel that report a unify voice. On 4/29/12 1:31 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > Hi > > On 4/29/12 11:00 AM, Peter H. Hellmonds wrote: >> What I haven't seen much evidence of is MAG members (eg) bringing >> their stakeholder group's input into discussions of the "traffic >> light" rating selection of workshops, or keeping them up to date with >> news from the mailing list. > > Workshops have been reviewed collectively in the past through Google > docs/excel through an invitation of a civil society MAG member to some > members of the IGC or a few members of the IGC has been also invited > to help in the organization of the main sessions (especially CIR) > since we did not have a MAG from civil society with the knowledge on > that topic: Izumi, Bill Drake, Marilia, and many others do so in > previous year. I think, its up to new MAG to decide how they want to > organize. > > BTW: Why changing the venue is a newsworthy event or it is just an > informational one? Does it has an implication for civil society to > raise awareness of their work in human rights? Unfortunately, I > wasn't able to attend the meeting remotely (the connection was not > working well for me ) and I haven't heard about it before. Any > explanation on that point would be really helpful for me (who is > trying to not get engage in "process work" but focus on the > "substance". If there is a connection between the venue (current one) > and the ability of civil society to do their work in that venue, that > would be an important news that I also would like to know. > > Are we having problems with the venue? (I do not know). > > Katitza > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Sun Apr 29 07:44:37 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:44:37 +0100 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> Message-ID: In message <4F9D267F.1080609 at eff.org>, at 13:31:11 on Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >If there is a connection between the venue (current one) and the >ability of civil society to do their work in that venue, that would be >an important news that I also would like to know. Knowing where the venue is helps people make travel plans. I'm probably guilty of wanting to get my travel plains done ahead of the crowd, because being as close as possible to the action does indeed seem to me to be very useful as a facilitator for getting more/better work done. 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The extent to which the IGC still cares about the IGF is a mystery to me. And as long as it is totally controlled by the UN, I wonder whether it makes sense as the sole focus of this group. I do not think so. And to put things off until we have finished the May consultation males no sense at all - especially when something comes with a do by date. I am certainly not in favor of the coordinators becoming representatives on any body. I think the duties are contradictory. I think being on Advisory Groups, Boards, Councils, Steering Groups and the like is incompatible with coordinating a caucus that is trying to get more access to the points of view of civil society. But that is just me. It is too bad that we were never able to get off the dime on Nomcom reforms as proposed by Jeremy, in this case, the one yearly nomcom to do all nomcomish activities, then it would be possible to come up with representatives for a all sort of maybe worthwhile activities. Especially with the difficulty we are having in even creating a single function nomcom to replace the appeals team i am allegedly a members of (hence my not having volunteered). Oh well, one wonders what can we really get done. But I think having a voice on many groups would be a good thing if we become a functional caucus again. I do not think that IGF is worth being the sole focus. An important focus yes, but not to the exclusion of all of the other multistakeholder model situations that are beginning to spring up. avri On 29 Apr 2012, at 08:26, McTim wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:09 AM, William Drake wrote: > +1. > > > +1 > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From kichango at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 13:11:31 2012 From: kichango at gmail.com (Mawaki Chango) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:11:31 -0400 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Hi, I too was a bit surprised to read that IGF is supposed to be the sole focus of IGC. The Caucus has been up and running well before IGF. I suspect the idea behind that statement was that IGC is about the IG component of the WSIS process and follow-up. However, I don't think it is a stretch to think that IGC is the forum that organizes and ensures a voice for CS in matters of internet governance in global/ transnational and multistakeholder processes. And cybersecurity has a place in there. Now, the Caucus may deliberate whether they want to be involved or not. That being said, the risk of diluting our attention/resources is a serious one I agree we need to keep in mind during such deliberations. Best, Mawaki On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > Hi, > > This only makes sense to me to an extent.  The extent to which the IGC still cares about the IGF is a mystery to me.  And as long as it is totally controlled by the UN, I wonder whether it makes sense as the sole focus of this group.  I do not think so.  And to put things off until we have finished the May consultation males no sense at all - especially when something comes with a do by date. > > I am certainly not in favor of the coordinators becoming representatives on any body.  I think the duties are contradictory.  I think being on Advisory Groups, Boards, Councils, Steering Groups and the like is incompatible with coordinating a caucus that is trying to get more access to the points of view of civil society.  But that is just me. > > It is too bad that we were never able to get off the dime on Nomcom reforms as proposed by Jeremy, in this case, the one yearly nomcom to do all nomcomish activities, then it would be possible to come up with representatives for a all sort of maybe worthwhile activities.  Especially with the difficulty we are having in even creating a single function nomcom to replace the appeals team i am allegedly a members of (hence my not having volunteered). > > Oh well, one wonders what can we really get done.  But I think having a voice on many groups would be a good thing if we become a functional caucus again. > > I do not think that IGF is worth being the sole focus.  An important focus yes, but not to the exclusion of all of the other multistakeholder model situations that are beginning to spring up. > > avri > > > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 08:26, McTim wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:09 AM, William Drake wrote: >> +1. >> >> >> +1 >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >     governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: >     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >     http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From dogwallah at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 13:39:56 2012 From: dogwallah at gmail.com (McTim) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:39:56 -0400 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> Message-ID: Hi, On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote: > Hi, > > I too was a bit surprised to read that IGF is supposed to be the sole > focus of IGC. Clearly, it's not SUPPOSED to be, but it is, I gave up that battle long ago. > The Caucus has been up and running well before IGF. I > suspect the idea behind that statement was that IGC is about the IG > component of the WSIS process and follow-up. However, I don't think it > is a stretch to think that IGC is the forum that organizes and ensures > a voice for CS in matters of internet governance in global/ > transnational and multistakeholder processes. And cybersecurity has a > place in there. Now, the Caucus may deliberate whether they want to be > involved or not. > I would say not, as we clearly only have an appetite for IGFfy things. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judyokite at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 16:04:43 2012 From: judyokite at gmail.com (Judy Okite) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:04:43 +0300 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Adam, Deidre, All, thank you, very much, just to let you know, we are taking notes and indeed, the issues that you are raising are quite important. 1. on the PWD's and accessibility, DCAD forwarded recommendations to the Secretariat, bearing in mind, the possibility of holding the forum in three different venues. I strongly encourage these discussions. Kind Regards, *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible” Edwin Land* On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Deirdre Williams < williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 29 April 2012 05:47, Adam Peake wrote: > > Dear Adam and everyone, > >> >> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >> the MAG meeting. >> > > Accessibility in Baku for everyone is extremely important, not just as a > practical consideration but symbolically for the IGF itself. > > Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be > one of the main technical factors affecting remote access - something > important to remember for this year. > > On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the > chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) were > a great help. > However - moderators do need some training in their function and therefore > the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be > extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than > English. > > Deirdre > > >> -- > “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William > Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Sun Apr 29 17:32:04 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:32:04 +0200 Subject: [governance] New MAG announced In-Reply-To: References: <245B2132-7389-46D0-8B02-860745B635E3@hellmonds.eu> <4cv31+qNpPnPFAZK@internetpolicyagency.com> <11D2BEA3-22A4-42BC-875B-6D3F2E569251@hellmonds.eu> <4F9D267F.1080609@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9DB354.2030308@eff.org> oh that. I forward the list the website of the event as soon as it was posted. I guess the venue should be there, or that was the impression I had when I report here that the organizers launched its website. I did forward Robert comments to them, and share here their answer. It's ok. On 4/29/12 1:44 PM, Roland Perry wrote: > In message <4F9D267F.1080609 at eff.org>, at 13:31:11 on Sun, 29 Apr > 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >> If there is a connection between the venue (current one) and the >> ability of civil society to do their work in that venue, that would >> be an important news that I also would like to know. > > Knowing where the venue is helps people make travel plans. I'm > probably guilty of wanting to get my travel plains done ahead of the > crowd, because being as close as possible to the action does indeed > seem to me to be very useful as a facilitator for getting more/better > work done. Especially "corridor work", outside the formal sessions. -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From rguerra at privaterra.org Sun Apr 29 17:50:33 2012 From: rguerra at privaterra.org (Robert Guerra) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:33 -0400 Subject: [governance] IGF 2012 - Venue / Change in plans? Message-ID: <157A14BB-33EC-40AC-8756-B00ABF069540@privaterra.org> Katitza, The venue listed on the igf2012.az website is different then the one that was mentioned at the IGF / MAG Open consultation back in February. Should the Baku Expo site be confirmed at the upcoming consultation, then the IGF will be taking place at the - exact same - location as BakuTel . No doubt UN security will need to cordon off the two areas so that IGF delegates can benefit from the protections, rights and privileges afforded to UN official meetings. regards Robert On 2012-04-29, at 5:32 PM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > oh that. I forward the list the website of the event as soon as it was posted. I guess the venue should be there, or that was the impression I had when I report here that the organizers launched its website. I did forward Robert comments to them, and share here their answer. It's ok. > > On 4/29/12 1:44 PM, Roland Perry wrote: >> In message <4F9D267F.1080609 at eff.org>, at 13:31:11 on Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Katitza Rodriguez writes >>> If there is a connection between the venue (current one) and the ability of civil society to do their work in that venue, that would be an important news that I also would like to know. >> >> Knowing where the venue is helps people make travel plans. I'm probably guilty of wanting to get my travel plains done ahead of the crowd, because being as close as possible to the action does indeed seem to me to be very useful as a facilitator for getting more/better work done. Especially "corridor work", outside the formal sessions. > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ginger at paque.net Sun Apr 29 18:42:58 2012 From: ginger at paque.net (Ginger Paque) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:12:58 -0430 Subject: Fwd: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we coordinate with them to support their work? 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles, with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere, As Adam has suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push and expertise too. Gracias! Ginger On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: > As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the > main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper > (link should be > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf > ) > so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the > annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should > also be discussion of the workshop proposals. > > Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. > > But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of > the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and > the MAG meeting. > > Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving > remote access (after my naïve comments...) Would be good if someone > could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about > how best to conduct remote access in Baku. The host country will need > to know, and to prepare. Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) > could prepare some recommendations? > > There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for > people with disabilities. Shouldn't happen again. Might suggest to > the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD > caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were > raised. The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they > aren't always. Would be good to have this on the agenda and > acknowledged as a priority. > > Adam > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- *Jovan Kurbalija, PhD* Director, DiploFoundation Rue de Lausanne 56 *| *1202 Geneva *|** *Switzerland**** *Tel.* +41 (0) 22 7410435 *| **Mobile.* +41 (0) 797884226**** *Email: *jovank at diplomacy.edu *| **Twitter:* @jovankurbalija **** *The latest from Diplo:* From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: *Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy*. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jeremy at ciroap.org Sun Apr 29 21:38:36 2012 From: jeremy at ciroap.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:38:36 +0800 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> Message-ID: <3F7FA4C8-EDB8-4436-BB61-AEE57BC2B5F8@ciroap.org> On 30/04/2012, at 12:34 AM, Avri Doria wrote: > It is too bad that we were never able to get off the dime on Nomcom reforms as proposed by Jeremy, in this case, the one yearly nomcom to do all nomcomish activities, then it would be possible to come up with representatives for a all sort of maybe worthwhile activities. Especially with the difficulty we are having in even creating a single function nomcom to replace the appeals team i am allegedly a members of (hence my not having volunteered). On this point, the proposed reforms that our small working group came up with were never posted to the main list because things were going on at the time and it was felt to be a distraction, but I should post them now (even if they are distraction, at least we can come back to them later). Here are the suggestions - just to underline that these don't have any status; they are just proposals from a few IGC members to the rest of the IGC: Under "Selection of Coordinators", regarding when elections are held, change "by midsummer (the summer solstice) to "within 15 months of the previous election". Also in "If events prevent an election by midsummer, it will be held as soon after midsummer as possible," change the word "midsummer" to "then" in both places. Under "Working methods", update the address of the mailing list from governance at lists.cpsr.org to governance at lists.igcaucus.org. For the issue of membership, there are two alternatives: Under "Amendments to the Charter", change "The membership requirements for amending the charter are based on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter." to "The membership requirements for amending the charter are those who self-identified as members of the IGC during the last preceding voting process, though they need not have gone on to cast a vote." or Under "Membership" add "List subscribers may self-identify as members of the IGC upon subscription, and may self-identify or rescind their self-identification or at any later time, at the IGC's website. Their affirmation will lapse unless renewed at each successive coordinator election at which the member is eligible to vote". Under "Amendments to the Charter", change "The membership requirements for amending the charter are based on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter." to "The membership requirements for amending the charter are those who have self-identified as members of the IGC." The first of these is the most minimal amendment possible to address the main problems with the definition of membership; ie. voting in the previous election will not be a prerequisite of voting on charter amendments, but instead you must have self-identified as an IGC member during the last election, which may have been up to a year ago. The second proposal goes further - it would require some technical changes to our website and membership database, but it may be preferable because people won't have to wait until the next year in order to become full members. -- Dr Jeremy Malcolm Senior Policy and Project Officer Consumers International Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Tel: +60 3 7726 1599 Follow @ConsumersInt Like us at www.facebook.com/consumersinternational Read our email confidentiality notice. Don't print this email unless necessary. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Sun Apr 29 21:58:41 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:58:41 -0400 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: <3F7FA4C8-EDB8-4436-BB61-AEE57BC2B5F8@ciroap.org> References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> <3F7FA4C8-EDB8-4436-BB61-AEE57BC2B5F8@ciroap.org> Message-ID: <6CB7D99D-F168-4F55-961C-BD0B0A82E9B4@acm.org> Hi, So we never discussed the issue of a single nomcom per year? Hmmm, wonder where that one got discussed. I definitely remember the discussion, though I obviously cannot remember where it occured. In any case, I will put forward a possible charter amendment on that and see if I can find the requisite number of people to agree with it. Since I am not a charter voter as currently interpreted, I will be putting forth an idea I can't vote on. Which seems appropriate. As for distracting this group, I find that the more a group or an individual tries to do, the more they get done. So maybe the distraction will be enough to actually get us working on all sorts of things. Of course I may not be able to get the requisite number of signatures so it will be moot. avri On 29 Apr 2012, at 21:38, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On 30/04/2012, at 12:34 AM, Avri Doria wrote: > >> It is too bad that we were never able to get off the dime on Nomcom reforms as proposed by Jeremy, in this case, the one yearly nomcom to do all nomcomish activities, then it would be possible to come up with representatives for a all sort of maybe worthwhile activities. Especially with the difficulty we are having in even creating a single function nomcom to replace the appeals team i am allegedly a members of (hence my not having volunteered). > > On this point, the proposed reforms that our small working group came up with were never posted to the main list because things were going on at the time and it was felt to be a distraction, but I should post them now (even if they are distraction, at least we can come back to them later). > > Here are the suggestions - just to underline that these don't have any status; they are just proposals from a few IGC members to the rest of the IGC: > > • Under "Selection of Coordinators", regarding when elections are held, change "by midsummer (the summer solstice) to "within 15 months of the previous election". Also in "If events prevent an election by midsummer, it will be held as soon after midsummer as possible," change the word "midsummer" to "then" in both places. > • Under "Working methods", update the address of the mailing list from governance at lists.cpsr.org to governance at lists.igcaucus.org. > > For the issue of membership, there are two alternatives: > > • Under "Amendments to the Charter", change "The membership requirements for amending the charter are based on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter." to "The membership requirements for amending the charter are those who self-identified as members of the IGC during the last preceding voting process, though they need not have gone on to cast a vote." > or > • Under "Membership" add "List subscribers may self-identify as members of the IGC upon subscription, and may self-identify or rescind their self-identification or at any later time, at the IGC's website. Their affirmation will lapse unless renewed at each successive coordinator election at which the member is eligible to vote". Under "Amendments to the Charter", change "The membership requirements for amending the charter are based on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter." to "The membership requirements for amending the charter are those who have self-identified as members of the IGC." > > The first of these is the most minimal amendment possible to address the main problems with the definition of membership; ie. voting in the previous election will not be a prerequisite of voting on charter amendments, but instead you must have self-identified as an IGC member during the last election, which may have been up to a year ago. The second proposal goes further - it would require some technical changes to our website and membership database, but it may be preferable because people won't have to wait until the next year in order to become full members. > > -- > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Senior Policy and Project Officer > Consumers International > Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East > Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > Tel: +60 3 7726 1599 > > Follow @ConsumersInt > > Like us at www.facebook.com/consumersinternational > > Read our email confidentiality notice. Don't print this email unless necessary. > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jeremy at ciroap.org Sun Apr 29 22:21:37 2012 From: jeremy at ciroap.org (Jeremy Malcolm) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 10:21:37 +0800 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: <6CB7D99D-F168-4F55-961C-BD0B0A82E9B4@acm.org> References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> <3F7FA4C8-EDB8-4436-BB61-AEE57BC2B5F8@ciroap.org> <6CB7D99D-F168-4F55-961C-BD0B0A82E9B4@acm.org> Message-ID: <0C4F1959-97D5-4C1F-BFEB-98079A1044D9@ciroap.org> On 30/04/2012, at 9:58 AM, Avri Doria wrote: > So we never discussed the issue of a single nomcom per year? Hmmm, wonder where that one got discussed. I definitely remember the discussion, though I obviously cannot remember where it occured. That makes a lot of sense to me. The nomcom selection process is time-consuming and the risks of reusing a nomcom for several appointments over a year seem minimal. -- Dr Jeremy Malcolm Senior Policy and Project Officer Consumers International Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Tel: +60 3 7726 1599 Follow @ConsumersInt Like us at www.facebook.com/consumersinternational Read our email confidentiality notice. Don't print this email unless necessary. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From avri at acm.org Sun Apr 29 22:44:36 2012 From: avri at acm.org (Avri Doria) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:44:36 -0400 Subject: [governance] Updates [General IGC Business] In-Reply-To: <0C4F1959-97D5-4C1F-BFEB-98079A1044D9@ciroap.org> References: <05971F41-E327-43BC-8780-FEAEB79B6F43@uzh.ch> <3F7FA4C8-EDB8-4436-BB61-AEE57BC2B5F8@ciroap.org> <6CB7D99D-F168-4F55-961C-BD0B0A82E9B4@acm.org> <0C4F1959-97D5-4C1F-BFEB-98079A1044D9@ciroap.org> Message-ID: <069BE8F2-DDAB-4617-BA15-542C523ED2B0@acm.org> Hi, I have started a wiki page on the proposed change to the nomcom process IGC members should feel free to edit if they think it needs it. Also feel free to add your name to the list of those proposing the change. Note I have put my name down, but I am not sure I count because of my non charter voting status. So I figure we need 11 names. avri On 29 Apr 2012, at 22:21, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: > On 30/04/2012, at 9:58 AM, Avri Doria wrote: > >> So we never discussed the issue of a single nomcom per year? Hmmm, wonder where that one got discussed. I definitely remember the discussion, though I obviously cannot remember where it occured. > > That makes a lot of sense to me. The nomcom selection process is time-consuming and the risks of reusing a nomcom for several appointments over a year seem minimal. > > -- > Dr Jeremy Malcolm > Senior Policy and Project Officer > Consumers International > Kuala Lumpur Office for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East > Lot 5-1 Wisma WIM, 7 Jalan Abang Haji Openg, TTDI, 60000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > Tel: +60 3 7726 1599 > > Follow @ConsumersInt > > Like us at www.facebook.com/consumersinternational > > Read our email confidentiality notice. Don't print this email unless necessary. > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Mon Apr 30 01:49:17 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:49:17 +0900 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Judy, hi. Perhaps you could suggest on the MAG mailing list that there's a slot on the agenda of both the open consultation and the MAG meeting for discussion of accessibility. Could be part of the host country discussion of the venue. And could you or one of the other MAG members also suggest remote access also be discussed during both meetings. We don't need to develop proposals at the moment, just ask that the topics are on the agenda. Best, Adam On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Judy Okite wrote: > Hello Adam, Deidre, All, > > thank you, very much, just to let you know, we are taking notes and indeed, > the issues that you are raising are quite important. > > 1. on the PWD's and accessibility, DCAD forwarded recommendations to the > Secretariat,   bearing in mind, the possibility of holding the forum in > three different venues. > > I strongly encourage these discussions. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > “Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > impossible” Edwin Land > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Deirdre Williams > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 29 April 2012 05:47, Adam Peake wrote: >> >> Dear Adam and everyone, >>> >>> >>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>> the MAG meeting. >> >> >> Accessibility in Baku for everyone is extremely important, not just as a >> practical consideration but symbolically for the IGF itself. >> >> Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be >> one of the main technical  factors affecting remote access - something >> important to remember for this year. >> >> On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the >> chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) were >> a great help. >> However - moderators do need some training in their function and therefore >> the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be >> extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than >> English. >> >> Deirdre >> >>> >> -- >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ajp at glocom.ac.jp Mon Apr 30 05:29:15 2012 From: ajp at glocom.ac.jp (Adam Peake) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:29:15 +0900 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: Hi all. I sent a note to encourage Judy (thanks Judy :-)) and other MAG members to get these two issues on the agenda of next month's meeting. First thing is to get a placeholder for discussion. I think a joint statement/recommendations from Diplo and the IGC on remote access would be very positive. Not a controversial issue, the Internet technical community and business will I'm sure support. Something all want to get right. Best, Adam On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ginger Paque wrote: > Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important > facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 > > 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons > learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the > Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing > this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we > coordinate with them to support their work? > > 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be > institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In > Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF > Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous > IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the > quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not > sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as > Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a > start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote > participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, > No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles > , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. > > For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison > for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work > on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else > who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere,  As Adam has > suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will > dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles > workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, > which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I > will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is > interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. > > This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, > are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just > proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this > specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized > MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push > and expertise too. > >  Gracias!  Ginger > > > On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >> >> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >> (link should be >> >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) >> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >> >> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >> >> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >> the MAG meeting. >> >> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >> remote access (after my naïve comments...)  Would be good if someone >> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >> how best to conduct remote access in Baku.  The host country will need >> to know, and to prepare.  Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >> could prepare some recommendations? >> >> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >> people with disabilities.  Shouldn't happen again.  Might suggest to >> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >> raised.  The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >> aren't always.  Would be good to have this on the agenda and >> acknowledged as a priority. >> >> Adam >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > -- > > Jovan Kurbalija, PhD > > Director, DiploFoundation > > Rue de Lausanne 56 | 1202 Geneva | Switzerland > > Tel. +41 (0) 22 7410435 | Mobile. +41 (0) 797884226 > > Email: jovank at diplomacy.edu  | Twitter: @jovankurbalija > > > > > > The latest from Diplo: From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: > Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. Apply now > to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nne75 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 30 06:03:49 2012 From: nne75 at yahoo.com (Nnenna) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 03:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: <1335780229.12687.YahooMailNeo@web130104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I will be happy to contribute to any RP draft, session or recommendations. [To the measure of my availability] Nnenna ________________________________ From: Adam Peake To: Ginger Paque Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Vladimir Radunovic ; Katitza Rodriguez ; Judy Okite ; "Saks, Andrea J. (TIES)" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access Hi all. I sent a note to encourage Judy (thanks Judy :-)) and other MAG members to get these two issues on the agenda of next month's meeting. First thing is to get a placeholder for discussion. I think a joint statement/recommendations from Diplo and the IGC on remote access would be very positive. Not a controversial issue, the Internet technical community and business will I'm sure support. Something all want to get right. Best, Adam On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ginger Paque wrote: > Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important > facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 > > 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons > learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the > Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing > this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we > coordinate with them to support their work? > > 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be > institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In > Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF > Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous > IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the > quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not > sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as > Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a > start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote > participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, > No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles > , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. > > For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison > for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work > on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else > who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere,  As Adam has > suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will > dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles > workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, > which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I > will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is > interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. > > This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, > are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just > proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this > specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized > MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push > and expertise too. > >  Gracias!  Ginger > > > On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >> >> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >> (link should be >> >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) >> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >> >> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >> >> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >> the MAG meeting. >> >> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >> remote access (after my naïve comments...)  Would be good if someone >> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >> how best to conduct remote access in Baku.  The host country will need >> to know, and to prepare.  Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >> could prepare some recommendations? >> >> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >> people with disabilities.  Shouldn't happen again.  Might suggest to >> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >> raised.  The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >> aren't always.  Would be good to have this on the agenda and >> acknowledged as a priority. >> >> Adam >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > > -- > > Jovan Kurbalija, PhD > > Director, DiploFoundation > > Rue de Lausanne 56 | 1202 Geneva | Switzerland > > Tel. +41 (0) 22 7410435 | Mobile. +41 (0) 797884226 > > Email: jovank at diplomacy.edu  | Twitter: @jovankurbalija > > > > > > The latest from Diplo: From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: > Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Mon Apr 30 06:03:56 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:03:56 +0200 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> Hi all I think this is a good time to refer to the report of the CSTD working group on IGF improvements. This reports emphasises remote participation and accessibility. It also emphasises language issues. I quote the text below. Anriette 2. Enhance measures for broader participation 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be accommodated; (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site interpretation; (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are on site or not. 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities to persons with disabilities. 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by (resources permitting): (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations official languages; (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on realtime English transcripts; (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, not only English, as the working language in some workshops. 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with disabilities. . On 30/04/12 11:29, Adam Peake wrote: > Hi all. > > I sent a note to encourage Judy (thanks Judy :-)) and other MAG > members to get these two issues on the agenda of next month's meeting. > First thing is to get a placeholder for discussion. > > I think a joint statement/recommendations from Diplo and the IGC on > remote access would be very positive. Not a controversial issue, the > Internet technical community and business will I'm sure support. > Something all want to get right. > > Best, > > Adam > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ginger Paque wrote: >> Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important >> facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 >> >> 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons >> learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the >> Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing >> this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we >> coordinate with them to support their work? >> >> 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be >> institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In >> Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF >> Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous >> IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the >> quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not >> sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as >> Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a >> start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote >> participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, >> No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles >> , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. >> >> For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison >> for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work >> on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else >> who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere, As Adam has >> suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will >> dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles >> workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, >> which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I >> will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is >> interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. >> >> This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, >> are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just >> proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this >> specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized >> MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push >> and expertise too. >> >> Gracias! Ginger >> >> >> On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >>> >>> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >>> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >>> (link should be >>> >>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) >>> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >>> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >>> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >>> >>> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >>> >>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>> the MAG meeting. >>> >>> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >>> remote access (after my naïve comments...) Would be good if someone >>> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >>> how best to conduct remote access in Baku. The host country will need >>> to know, and to prepare. Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >>> could prepare some recommendations? >>> >>> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >>> people with disabilities. Shouldn't happen again. Might suggest to >>> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >>> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >>> raised. The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >>> aren't always. Would be good to have this on the agenda and >>> acknowledged as a priority. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jovan Kurbalija, PhD >> >> Director, DiploFoundation >> >> Rue de Lausanne 56 | 1202 Geneva | Switzerland >> >> Tel. +41 (0) 22 7410435 | Mobile. +41 (0) 797884226 >> >> Email: jovank at diplomacy.edu | Twitter: @jovankurbalija >> >> >> >> >> >> The latest from Diplo: From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >> prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: >> Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. Apply now >> to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From anriette at apc.org Mon Apr 30 06:06:38 2012 From: anriette at apc.org (Anriette Esterhuysen) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:06:38 +0200 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> Message-ID: <4F9E642E.6060401@apc.org> I forgot to add the URL of the report. http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf Anriette On 30/04/12 12:03, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Hi all > > I think this is a good time to refer to the report of the CSTD working > group on IGF improvements. > > This reports emphasises remote participation and accessibility. It also > emphasises language issues. I quote the text below. > > Anriette > > 2. Enhance measures for broader participation > > 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote > participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and > hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: > > (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of > adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; > (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants > equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; > > (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be > accommodated; > > (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by > ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site > interpretation; > > (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live > transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such > mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to > non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are > on site or not. > > 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities > to persons with disabilities. > > 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and > cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity > functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by > (resources permitting): > > (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations > official languages; > > (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on > realtime English transcripts; > > (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, > not only English, as the working language in some workshops. > > 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF > > 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s > website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more > attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with > open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with > disabilities. > . > > > On 30/04/12 11:29, Adam Peake wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I sent a note to encourage Judy (thanks Judy :-)) and other MAG >> members to get these two issues on the agenda of next month's meeting. >> First thing is to get a placeholder for discussion. >> >> I think a joint statement/recommendations from Diplo and the IGC on >> remote access would be very positive. Not a controversial issue, the >> Internet technical community and business will I'm sure support. >> Something all want to get right. >> >> Best, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ginger Paque wrote: >>> Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important >>> facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 >>> >>> 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons >>> learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the >>> Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing >>> this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we >>> coordinate with them to support their work? >>> >>> 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be >>> institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In >>> Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF >>> Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous >>> IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the >>> quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not >>> sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as >>> Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a >>> start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote >>> participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, >>> No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles >>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles >>> , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. >>> >>> For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison >>> for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work >>> on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else >>> who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere, As Adam has >>> suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will >>> dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles >>> workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, >>> which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I >>> will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is >>> interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. >>> >>> This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, >>> are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just >>> proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this >>> specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized >>> MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push >>> and expertise too. >>> >>> Gracias! Ginger >>> >>> >>> On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >>>> >>>> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >>>> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >>>> (link should be >>>> >>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) >>>> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >>>> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >>>> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >>>> >>>> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >>>> >>>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>>> the MAG meeting. >>>> >>>> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >>>> remote access (after my naïve comments...) Would be good if someone >>>> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >>>> how best to conduct remote access in Baku. The host country will need >>>> to know, and to prepare. Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >>>> could prepare some recommendations? >>>> >>>> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >>>> people with disabilities. Shouldn't happen again. Might suggest to >>>> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >>>> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >>>> raised. The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >>>> aren't always. Would be good to have this on the agenda and >>>> acknowledged as a priority. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jovan Kurbalija, PhD >>> >>> Director, DiploFoundation >>> >>> Rue de Lausanne 56 | 1202 Geneva | Switzerland >>> >>> Tel. +41 (0) 22 7410435 | Mobile. +41 (0) 797884226 >>> >>> Email: jovank at diplomacy.edu | Twitter: @jovankurbalija >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The latest from Diplo: From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >>> prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: >>> Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. Apply now >>> to reserve your place: http://www.diplomacy.edu/courses >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------------ anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org executive director, association for progressive communications www.apc.org po box 29755, melville 2109 south africa tel/fax +27 11 726 1692 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From nne75 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 30 06:14:54 2012 From: nne75 at yahoo.com (Nnenna) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 03:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: <4F9E642E.6060401@apc.org> References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> <4F9E642E.6060401@apc.org> Message-ID: <1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo@web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, Anriette for the link.  Highly appreciated. One point that I may want to add is "Avoid last-minute changes in programme" People participating remotely find it extremely difficult to adjust when workshops are changed at the last minute. We need to find language that will incorporate use of social media as an RP tool. Best Nnenna   Nnenna  Nwakanma |  Founder and CEO, NNENNA.ORG  |  Consultants Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for Development Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax  224 26471 |Mob. 07416820 Ghana: +233 249561345| Nigeria: +234 8101887065| http://www.nnenna.org nnenna at nnenna.org| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 | nnennaorg.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: Anriette Esterhuysen To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:06 AM Subject: Re: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access I forgot to add the URL of the report. http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf Anriette On 30/04/12 12:03, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote: > Hi all > > I think this is a good time to refer to the report of the CSTD working > group on IGF improvements. > > This reports emphasises remote participation and accessibility. It also > emphasises language issues. I quote the text below. > > Anriette > > 2. Enhance measures for broader participation > > 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote > participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and > hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: > > (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of > adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; > (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants > equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; > > (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be > accommodated; > > (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by > ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site > interpretation; > > (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live > transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such > mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to > non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are > on site or not. > > 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities > to persons with disabilities. > > 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and > cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity > functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by > (resources permitting): > > (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations > official languages; > > (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on > realtime English transcripts; > > (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, > not only English, as the working language in some workshops. > > 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF > > 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s > website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more > attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with > open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with > disabilities. > . > > > On 30/04/12 11:29, Adam Peake wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> I sent a note to encourage Judy (thanks Judy :-)) and other MAG >> members to get these two issues on the agenda of next month's meeting. >>  First thing is to get a placeholder for discussion. >> >> I think a joint statement/recommendations from Diplo and the IGC on >> remote access would be very positive. Not a controversial issue, the >> Internet technical community and business will I'm sure support. >> Something all want to get right. >> >> Best, >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ginger Paque wrote: >>> Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important >>> facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 >>> >>> 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons >>> learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the >>> Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing >>> this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we >>> coordinate with them to support their work? >>> >>> 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be >>> institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In >>> Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF >>> Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous >>> IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the >>> quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not >>> sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as >>> Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a >>> start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote >>> participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, >>> No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles >>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles >>> , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. >>> >>> For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison >>> for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work >>> on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else >>> who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere,  As Adam has >>> suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will >>> dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles >>> workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, >>> which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I >>> will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is >>> interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. >>> >>> This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, >>> are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just >>> proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this >>> specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized >>> MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push >>> and expertise too. >>> >>>  Gracias!  Ginger >>> >>> >>> On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >>>> >>>> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >>>> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >>>> (link should be >>>> >>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf) >>>> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >>>> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >>>> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >>>> >>>> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >>>> >>>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>>> the MAG meeting. >>>> >>>> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >>>> remote access (after my naïve comments...)  Would be good if someone >>>> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >>>> how best to conduct remote access in Baku.  The host country will need >>>> to know, and to prepare.  Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >>>> could prepare some recommendations? >>>> >>>> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >>>> people with disabilities.  Shouldn't happen again.  Might suggest to >>>> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >>>> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >>>> raised.  The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >>>> aren't always.  Would be good to have this on the agenda and >>>> acknowledged as a priority. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>    governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>    http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>    http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>    http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jovan Kurbalija, PhD >>> >>> Director, DiploFoundation >>> >>> Rue de Lausanne 56 | 1202 Geneva | Switzerland >>> >>> Tel. +41 (0) 22 7410435 | Mobile. +41 (0) 797884226 >>> >>> Email: jovank at diplomacy.edu  | Twitter: @jovankurbalija >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The latest from Diplo: From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most >>> prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: >>> Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy. 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I don't think that there would be funding for this function so moderators would be volunteers. They need to be: identified trained and perhaps there might be a way to offer some reward even if only to have one's name appear in an official list. Some funders might be willing to consider requiring x hours of moderating as a condition of granting funding to attend the IGF. There might be a special registration desk for moderators? I see that the document Anriette shared emphasises the importance of the human side of things :-) Following Nnenna's comment - as well as programme changes could there be an indication if a workshop is NOT offering remote participation, or that there is a delay in starting. Deirdre On 29 April 2012 18:42, Ginger Paque wrote: > Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important > facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 > > 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons > learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the > Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing > this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we > coordinate with them to support their work? > > 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be > institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In > Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF > Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous > IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the > quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not > sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as > Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a > start, there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote > participation principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, > No. 52 Remote Participation: Reality and Principles > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposals/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-principles, with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. > > For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison > for practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to > work on this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and > anyone else who is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere, > As Adam has suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting > point, so I will dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP > principles workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to > the next OC, which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate > implementation. I will post something here late this week. I invite anyone > else who is interested to email me privately with their input, so we > include all ideas. > > This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, > are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just > proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this > specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized > MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push > and expertise too. > > Gracias! Ginger > > > On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: > >> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >> (link should be >> >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.pdf >> ) >> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >> >> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >> >> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >> the MAG meeting. >> >> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >> remote access (after my naïve comments...) Would be good if someone >> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >> how best to conduct remote access in Baku. The host country will need >> to know, and to prepare. Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >> could prepare some recommendations? >> >> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >> people with disabilities. Shouldn't happen again. Might suggest to >> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >> raised. The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >> aren't always. Would be good to have this on the agenda and >> acknowledged as a priority. >> >> Adam >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > -- > > *Jovan Kurbalija, PhD* > > Director, DiploFoundation > > Rue de Lausanne 56 *| *1202 Geneva *|** *Switzerland**** > > *Tel.* +41 (0) 22 7410435 *| **Mobile.* +41 (0) 797884226**** > > *Email: *jovank at diplomacy.edu *| **Twitter:* @jovankurbalija > > > > **** > > *The latest from Diplo:* From the fundamentals of diplomacy to the most > prominent new trends: check our three online courses starting in May 2012: > *Bilateral Diplomacy, Diplomacy of Small States, and E-diplomacy*. 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URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From andersj at elon.edu Mon Apr 30 07:25:57 2012 From: andersj at elon.edu (Janna Anderson) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:25:57 -0400 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I want to add that the lighting in the facilities in which live video is being broadcast should be pushed up to the highest possible available light. The conference facilities in most places nowadays offer the capability for rooms to be extremely brightly lit, and for some reason people choose ³mood² lighting. Video does not work well in low light. Please encourage people who are planning conference set-ups and even the moderators for each panel/session to turn the lights up every time they walk into a room. Janna On 4/30/12 6:35 AM, "Deirdre Williams" wrote: > I believe that it is crucially important to consider the human element, the > moderators, of the remote participation process from the very beginning. I > don't think that there would be funding for this function so moderators would > be volunteers. > They need to be: > identified > trained > and perhaps there might be a way to offer some reward even if only to have > one's name appear in an official list. Some funders might be willing to > consider requiring x hours of moderating as a condition of granting funding to > attend the IGF. There might be a special registration desk for moderators?  > > I see that the document Anriette shared emphasises the importance of the human > side of things :-) > > Following Nnenna's comment - as well as programme changes could there be an > indication if a workshop is NOT offering remote participation, or that there > is a delay in starting. > > Deirdre  > > > > > On 29 April 2012 18:42, Ginger Paque wrote: >> Adam, thanks for this clear, concise presentation of two very important >> facets of meeting planning for the IGF 2012 >> >> 1. Accessibility to and within the venue is very important, and lessons >> learned from Nairobi should be applied. As Judy has already commented, the >> Dynamic Coalition for Access and Disability (DCAD) is active in addressing >> this topic with the IGF secretariat, the OC, MAG and workshops. Can we >> coordinate with them to support their work? >> >> >> 2. Regarding remote participation, my main concern, that RP be >> institutionalized as part of the IGF process seems to be addressed. In >> Nairobi, and again for Baku, Bernard Sadaka has been contracted by the IGF >> Secretariat to manage RP. He is very aware of the shortcomings in previous >> IGFs, and is working to address them, as he is determined to improve the >> quality of RP for the IGF. Bernard's involvement is important, but not >> sufficent for making RP a real success. We need to make a step forward, as >> Adam suggests, to make specific recommendations for improving RP. As a start, >> there was a workshop last year on e-participation/remote participation >> principles, and a continuation of that one has been proposed, No. 52 Remote >> Participation: Reality and Principles >> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/116-workshop-proposa >> ls/998-igf-2012-workshop-proposal--no-52-remote-participation-reality-and-pri >> nciples , with organizers including Diplofoundation and the DCAD. >> >> For RP, I think it is very important that we find a way to have a liaison for >> practical input into the RP preparation process. I am very happy to work on >> this with Vlada (Diplo's coordinator for e-participation) and anyone else who >> is interested, from the IGC, the RPWG, DCAD or elsewhere,  As Adam has >> suggested, establishing some guidelines is a good starting point, so I will >> dig up the RPWG guidelines, the output from last years RP principles >> workshop, and other notes, so we can have a concrete input to the next OC, >> which we can ask CS MAG members to support for immediate implementation. I >> will post something here late this week. I invite anyone else who is >> interested to email me privately with their input, so we include all ideas. >> >> This is one possibility, which I will start working on. Other approaches, >> are of course welcome, and I am happy to adapt as we go along. I'm just >> proposing to get the ball rolling in the meantime. Thanks to Adam for this >> specific suggestion, and to everyone who is working to make the revitalized >> MAG and IGF12 a success. Katitza... We are counting on your continued push >> and expertise too. >> >>  Gracias!  Ginger >>> >>> >>> On 29 April 2012 05:17, Adam Peake wrote: >>> >>>> As yet no agenda for the May meetings on the IGF website. Expect the >>>> main topic will be to review and finalize the draft programme paper >>>> (link should be >>>> >>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2012/Programme%20Paper-1.02%20April%20copy.p >>>> df) >>>> so it can be sent out with Mr. Sha's usual invitation to attend the >>>> annual IGF. I think that's the usual pattern. And then there should >>>> also be discussion of the workshop proposals. >>>> >>>> Perhaps our MAG members could ask what's planned. >>>> >>>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>>> the MAG meeting. >>>> >>>> Earlier in the year there was some good discussion about improving >>>> remote access (after my naïve comments...)  Would be good if someone >>>> could present what was learnt from Nairobi as positive statement about >>>> how best to conduct remote access in Baku.  The host country will need >>>> to know, and to prepare.  Perhaps Ginger, Marilia (the diplo team?) >>>> could prepare some recommendations? >>>> >>>> There were accessibility problems in Nairobi, all kinds of hassle for >>>> people with disabilities.  Shouldn't happen again.  Might suggest to >>>> the Secretariat and host country to have a discussion with the PWD >>>> caucus and panelists of the Nairobi session where concerns were >>>> raised.  The UN should be expert, but as we saw in Nairobi, they >>>> aren't always.  Would be good to have this on the agenda and >>>> acknowledged as a priority. >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________ >>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>>>     governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>>>     http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>>>     http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>>> >>>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- Janna Quitney Anderson Director of Imagining the Internet www.imaginingtheinternet.org Associate Professor of Communications Director of Internet Projects School of Communications Elon University andersj at elon.edu (336) 278-5733 (o) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Apr 30 08:09:09 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:09:09 +0100 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: <1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo@web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> <4F9E642E.6060401@apc.org> <1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo@web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In message <1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo at web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, at 03:14:54 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Nnenna writes >One point that I may want to add is > >"Avoid last-minute changes in programme" > >People participating remotely find it extremely difficult to adjust >when workshops are changed at the last minute. I've been at well known International meetings where changes to the programme have been posted either as a note on the [original] room door, or even worse taped to a screen that's displaying a web page with the old programme. Neither of those are ideal for persons of restricted mobility/vision on site, let alone remote participants. It can be especially frustrating when people Tweet from a meeting you never knew was happening, and isn't on the programme. But if those on site know that, they can perhaps Tweet revisions as soon as they are aware of them. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Apr 30 08:15:18 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:15:18 +0100 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In message , at 07:25:57 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Janna Anderson writes > The conference facilities in most places nowadays offer the capability >for rooms to be extremely brightly lit, and for some reason people >choose ?mood? lighting. That's often because you can't see the Powerpoint slides on the screen unless the room lights are dimmed. One solution is to have the lights on full, but expect attendees to look at the slides on their own laptops - however that brings challenges in terms of connectivity and also editing the RP video stream to include contemporaneous slide shows, or having the slide sets pre-loaded (which you really ought to be doing for the remote participants anyway). 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Currently it isn't possible to make not being physically present the same as being physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear about what are MUST HAVES and what may come later. Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of them deserve individual attention. Deirdre On 30 April 2012 08:15, Roland Perry wrote: > In message >, > at 07:25:57 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Janna Anderson writes > >> The conference facilities in most places nowadays offer the capability >> for rooms to be extremely brightly lit, and for some reason people choose >> ?mood? lighting. >> > > That's often because you can't see the Powerpoint slides on the screen > unless the room lights are dimmed. > > One solution is to have the lights on full, but expect attendees to look > at the slides on their own laptops - however that brings challenges in > terms of connectivity and also editing the RP video stream to include > contemporaneous slide shows, or having the slide sets pre-loaded (which you > really ought to be doing for the remote participants anyway). > > Some organisations have overcome these obstacles. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tim at practicalparticipation.co.uk Mon Apr 30 08:41:12 2012 From: tim at practicalparticipation.co.uk (Tim Davies) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:41:12 +0100 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: <4F9DBC26.5050004@diplomacy.edu> <4F9E638C.7000202@apc.org> <4F9E642E.6060401@apc.org> <1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo@web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On a technical level it would help if the programme was managed in a structured form online. The last two years I've tried to write custom code which reads the Excel timetable that the Secretariat post, and make it available as an online timetable (e.g. at http://igf2011.diplomacy.edu/schedule/2011-W40) that can be updated as soon as the official Excel timetable is, but having a better platform and process to manage changes would be really helpful. Sometimes changes can't be avoided, but at least a list of recent changes, and making sure any screens or websites displaying the timetable are able to easily draw on a central copy would be helpful. More widely, I'm currently trying to work out how to develop the social media aggregator tool (http://igf2011.diplomacy.edu/) for 2012, and very keen to try and link this closely with RP... All the best Tim On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Roland Perry < roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote: > In message <1335780894.44853.**YahooMailNeo at web130106.mail.**mud.yahoo.com<1335780894.44853.YahooMailNeo at web130106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>>, > at 03:14:54 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Nnenna writes > > > One point that I may want to add is >> >> "Avoid last-minute changes in programme" >> >> People participating remotely find it extremely difficult to adjust when >> workshops are changed at the last minute. >> > > I've been at well known International meetings where changes to the > programme have been posted either as a note on the [original] room door, or > even worse taped to a screen that's displaying a web page with the old > programme. > > Neither of those are ideal for persons of restricted mobility/vision on > site, let alone remote participants. > > It can be especially frustrating when people Tweet from a meeting you > never knew was happening, and isn't on the programme. But if those on site > know that, they can perhaps Tweet revisions as soon as they are aware of > them. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- http://www.timdavies.org.uk 07834 856 303. @timdavies Co-director of Practical Participation: http://www.practicalparticipation.co.uk -------------------------- Practical Participation Ltd is a registered company in England and Wales - #5381958. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From roland at internetpolicyagency.com Mon Apr 30 08:48:22 2012 From: roland at internetpolicyagency.com (Roland Perry) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:48:22 +0100 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1B5kSPCWoonPFAJE@internetpolicyagency.com> In message , at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Deirdre Williams writes >I also think that we should look at RP the other way round too. >Currently it isn't possible to make not being physically present the >same as being physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear >about what are MUST HAVES and what may come later. > >Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with >disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of >them deserve individual attention My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either community. I wasn't making a judgement about which community "deserved" the solution more than the other. -- Roland Perry -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From williams.deirdre at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 09:07:10 2012 From: williams.deirdre at gmail.com (Deirdre Williams) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:07:10 -0400 Subject: DRAFT: PLEASE COMMENT JOVAN/VLADA Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: <1B5kSPCWoonPFAJE@internetpolicyagency.com> References: <1B5kSPCWoonPFAJE@internetpolicyagency.com> Message-ID: Oops - I need to be more careful - too much multi-tasking - doing tax forms at the same time. My intention was to respond to what seemed to be an overall movement to put both issues in the same basket. Certainly there is a lot of common ground but I think the people with disabilities have some extra needs which might be overlooked if RP and PWD are put together. On 30 April 2012 08:48, Roland Perry wrote: > In message m80Q at mail.gmail.com >, at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 Apr > 2012, Deirdre Williams writes > > I also think that we should look at RP the other way round too. Currently >> it isn't possible to make not being physically present the same as being >> physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear about what are >> MUST HAVES and what may come later. >> >> Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with >> disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of them >> deserve individual attention >> > > My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either community. > I wasn't making a judgement about which community > "deserved" the solution more than the other. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From ginger at paque.net Mon Apr 30 09:12:00 2012 From: ginger at paque.net (Ginger Paque) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:42:00 -0430 Subject: Now called: Compiling guideline points Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access Message-ID: Hello everyone, and thanks for taking this important discussion seriously. Adam Peake suggested we start a formal set of guidelines or input to the IGF Remote Participation and Access issues for Baku. There have been great suggestions already, which I have compiled below. If anything is missing, please let us/me know. I add any additional comments, and will put this in a more coherent format before the end of the week. Ginger: Support the DCAD on access issues as RP and access are closely linked Deidre says: Avoid conflating the issues Have a liason between RP working group or others who are working on RP with Bernard or the IGF secretariat, to facilitate coordination of volunteer efforts. Ask that experienced and new interested MAG members organize to support these issues (Katitza? Vlada? others?) Add the guidelines and principles from previous IGF workshops. Anriette Esterhuysen: refer to the report of the CSTD working group on IGF improvements: 2. Enhance measures for broader participation 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be accommodated; (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site interpretation; (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are on site or not. 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities to persons with disabilities. 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by (resources permitting): (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations official languages; (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on realtime English transcripts; (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, not only English, as the working language in some workshops. 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with disabilities. http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf Deirdre William: identify and train moderators, consider some kind of recognition for volunteers Nnenna: Avoid last minute changes in programming, and consider how they affect in situ and RP when necessary Janna Anderson: Good lighting in the room helps RP images - Roland Perry: have to manage ppt/presentations in lighting as well. Tim Davies: Add social aggregator tool On 30 April 2012 08:18, Roland Perry wrote: > In message m80Q at mail.gmail.com >, at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 Apr > 2012, Deirdre Williams writes > >> I also think that we should look at RP the other way round too. Currently >> it isn't possible to make not being physically present the same as being >> physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear about what are >> MUST HAVES and what may come later. >> >> Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with >> disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of them >> deserve individual attention >> > > My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either community. > I wasn't making a judgement about which community > "deserved" the solution more than the other. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From judyokite at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 09:22:34 2012 From: judyokite at gmail.com (Judy Okite) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:22:34 +0300 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, Adam....will do. Kind Regards, *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible” Edwin Land* On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Adam Peake wrote: > Judy, hi. > > Perhaps you could suggest on the MAG mailing list that there's a slot > on the agenda of both the open consultation and the MAG meeting for > discussion of accessibility. Could be part of the host country > discussion of the venue. > > And could you or one of the other MAG members also suggest remote > access also be discussed during both meetings. > > We don't need to develop proposals at the moment, just ask that the > topics are on the agenda. > > Best, > > Adam > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Judy Okite wrote: > > Hello Adam, Deidre, All, > > > > thank you, very much, just to let you know, we are taking notes and > indeed, > > the issues that you are raising are quite important. > > > > 1. on the PWD's and accessibility, DCAD forwarded recommendations to the > > Secretariat, bearing in mind, the possibility of holding the forum in > > three different venues. > > > > I strongly encourage these discussions. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > “Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > > impossible” Edwin Land > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Deirdre Williams > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 29 April 2012 05:47, Adam Peake wrote: > >> > >> Dear Adam and everyone, > >>> > >>> > >>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of > >>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and > >>> the MAG meeting. > >> > >> > >> Accessibility in Baku for everyone is extremely important, not just as a > >> practical consideration but symbolically for the IGF itself. > >> > >> Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be > >> one of the main technical factors affecting remote access - something > >> important to remember for this year. > >> > >> On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the > >> chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) > were > >> a great help. > >> However - moderators do need some training in their function and > therefore > >> the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be > >> extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than > >> English. > >> > >> Deirdre > >> > >>> > >> -- > >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William > >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vladar at diplomacy.edu Mon Apr 30 09:42:08 2012 From: vladar at diplomacy.edu (Vladimir Radunovic) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:42:08 +0200 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: References: <4F9A9152.4000900@eff.org> <005001cd251c$87fe89d0$97fb9d70$@planet.tn> Message-ID: <00a401cd26d7$0f83ea60$2e8bbf20$@diplomacy.edu> Izumi, latter time suggested by Qusai would also suit me since I should arrive to Geneva by 7pm only. If you start 6pm or latter I could join you (at least for a part of the meeting and dinner). Best! Vlada From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Qusai AlShatti Sent: 28 April 2012 12:31 To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU Subject: Re: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? Dear Izumi & all: I will be there too. Thank you for the effort to arrange this meeting. I would kindly request to shift the meeting time from 16:00-18:00 to 18:00-20:00. I am requesting this because there is a session about Partnership on measuring ICT for development which will take place between 14:45 - 18:00 and I am planning to attend it. Beside if we end the meeting on 20:00, it will be more suitable time for dinner. If the place is an issue, I will be staying at the Epsom manotel and we can meet there. It is close to rue Lausanne. Best Regards, Qusai AlShatti On Saturday, April 28, 2012, Izumi AIZU wrote: Dear all, Jovan Kurbalija of DiploFoundation kindly agreed to our request for the meeting room. So we will have a preparatory meeting followed by an optional dinner at the nearby restaurant. Time/Date: 16:00 - 18:00 Monday, May 14, Venue: DiploFoundation 56, Rue de Lausanne. Geneva Phone:+41 22 741 0420 Please send your ideas about the topics we like to discuss there. izumi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vladar at diplomacy.edu Mon Apr 30 09:51:38 2012 From: vladar at diplomacy.edu (Vladimir Radunovic) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:51:38 +0200 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00c501cd26d8$5e5f7cc0$1b1e7640$@diplomacy.edu> Adam, thanks for raising the issue. I have just shared these few proposals for the OC and MAG agenda with MAG list: Remote participation and accessibility for PWD as first. We will keep you all updated. As for reporting to the CS, let's start with what we have already: I will be tweeting via @vradunovic whenever applicable. Others from MAG may also share their twitter accounts or blogs if they blog regularly, and this can be a good start (without formal reports). Best, Vlada From: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] On Behalf Of Judy Okite Sent: 30 April 2012 15:23 To: Adam Peake Cc: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Subject: Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input Thank you, Adam....will do. Kind Regards, "Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly impossible" Edwin Land On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Adam Peake wrote: Judy, hi. Perhaps you could suggest on the MAG mailing list that there's a slot on the agenda of both the open consultation and the MAG meeting for discussion of accessibility. Could be part of the host country discussion of the venue. And could you or one of the other MAG members also suggest remote access also be discussed during both meetings. We don't need to develop proposals at the moment, just ask that the topics are on the agenda. Best, Adam On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Judy Okite wrote: > Hello Adam, Deidre, All, > > thank you, very much, just to let you know, we are taking notes and indeed, > the issues that you are raising are quite important. > > 1. on the PWD's and accessibility, DCAD forwarded recommendations to the > Secretariat, bearing in mind, the possibility of holding the forum in > three different venues. > > I strongly encourage these discussions. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > "Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > impossible" Edwin Land > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Deirdre Williams > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 29 April 2012 05:47, Adam Peake wrote: >> >> Dear Adam and everyone, >>> >>> >>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of >>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and >>> the MAG meeting. >> >> >> Accessibility in Baku for everyone is extremely important, not just as a >> practical consideration but symbolically for the IGF itself. >> >> Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be >> one of the main technical factors affecting remote access - something >> important to remember for this year. >> >> On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the >> chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) were >> a great help. >> However - moderators do need some training in their function and therefore >> the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be >> extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than >> English. >> >> Deirdre >> >>> >> -- >> "The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From keishactaylor at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 09:53:24 2012 From: keishactaylor at gmail.com (Keisha Taylor) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:53:24 +0100 Subject: Now called: Compiling guideline points Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, I like the ideas listed below. I think that the inclusion of social media should be more formally introduced as part of remote participation so that even if the sessions sometimes do not reach people (for technical/timezone/bandwidth etc issues), the conversations surrounding the sessions can reach a much bigger audience even if the actual sessions were missed. I also think that it may be useful to use the IGF to gage opinions or insight on various issues from not only IGF attendees but from those who cannot attend. This be through surveys or other lightweight but effective initiatives. The results of this I think can provide some very interesting insight. Best Keisha On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: > Hello everyone, and thanks for taking this important discussion seriously. > > Adam Peake suggested we start a formal set of guidelines or input to the > IGF Remote Participation and Access issues for Baku. > There have been great suggestions already, which I have compiled below. If > anything is missing, please let us/me know. I add any additional comments, > and will put this in a more coherent format before the end of the week. > > Ginger: Support the DCAD on access issues as RP and access are closely > linked Deidre says: Avoid conflating the issues > Have a liason between RP working group or others who are working on RP > with Bernard or the IGF secretariat, to facilitate coordination of > volunteer efforts. > Ask that experienced and new interested MAG members organize to support > these issues (Katitza? Vlada? others?) > Add the guidelines and principles from previous IGF workshops. > > Anriette Esterhuysen: refer to the report of the CSTD working > group on IGF improvements: > > 2. Enhance measures for broader participation > > 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote > participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and > hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: > > (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of > adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; > (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants > equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; > > (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be > accommodated; > > (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by > ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site > interpretation; > > (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live > transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such > mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to > non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are > on site or not. > > 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities > to persons with disabilities. > > 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and > cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity > functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by > (resources permitting): > > (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations > official languages; > > (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on > realtime English transcripts; > > (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, > not only English, as the working language in some workshops. > > 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF > > 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s > website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more > attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with > open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with > disabilities. > > http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf > Deirdre William: identify and train moderators, consider some kind of > recognition for volunteers > Nnenna: Avoid last minute changes in programming, and consider how they > affect in situ and RP when necessary > Janna Anderson: Good lighting in the room helps RP images - Roland Perry: > have to manage ppt/presentations in lighting as well. > Tim Davies: Add social aggregator tool > > > On 30 April 2012 08:18, Roland Perry wrote: > >> In message > m80Q at mail.gmail.com >, at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 >> Apr 2012, Deirdre Williams writes >> >>> I also think that we should look at RP the other way round too. >>> Currently it isn't possible to make not being physically present the same >>> as being physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear about >>> what are MUST HAVES and what may come later. >>> >>> Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with >>> disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of them >>> deserve individual attention >>> >> >> My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either community. >> I wasn't making a judgement about which community >> "deserved" the solution more than the other. >> -- >> Roland Perry >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jovank at diplomacy.edu Mon Apr 30 10:14:01 2012 From: jovank at diplomacy.edu (Jovan Kurbalija) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:14:01 +0200 Subject: Now called: Compiling guideline points Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input RP and access In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F9E9E29.3050206@diplomacy.edu> Following up on Adam's invitation to discuss, here are a few comments on IGF RP.... It is good that we are moving out of Parento's formula of having 20% of investment (people, training) contributing 80% to the success of remote participation. The CSTD paper is a good blend of summarising experience over the last 6 years and paving the way for the future development. The RP process proves the importance of organic and bottom-up policy making. Here are a few more concrete comments: - One can see cross-fertilisation among different policy spaces. ICANN, which introduced transcription into the IG policy space, has effective RP. The WSIS Forum has introduced also highly functional RP. Last week, INET had both RP and remote hubs. Each policy space has its own specificities, but there is a lot of possibilities for learning from each other. At the next WSIS Forum there will be a session on e-participation. Ginger will maintain the tradition of RP-workshop at the IGF Baku, as well. Diplo has been trying to promote e-participation in other policy spaces in the context of the project "20 years of e-diplomacy". The first discussions are highly encouraging. - Since the "venue" problems are identified and will be fixed, the main challenge will be to have effective local hubs. The key contribution of e-participation will be in linking global/regional IG debates to the local policy context. The benefits will flow both ways from global to local (understanding the wider policy context) and from local to global (having reality check about policy discussions). Local hubs should be part of the local policy processes as well. I am sure that Ginger, Marilia, Bernard, Vlada and other conveyers of local hubs can develop the recommendations for the sub-section on local hubs. - E-facilitation and local hubs are one the ways to engage "silent majority". The more IGF moves beyond traditional IGF circles, the more relevant it will be to the world at large. Typically, the e-IGF attracts the most active people on social media. But, e-facilitators - especially in local hubs - should engage people beyond the "usual circles". In the build-up for the IGF, local hubs should facilitate discussion on the most pressing local issues. - We should develop some sort of incentives for local hubs facilitators. It could be participation in the next IGF for the most successful hubs and publishing of reports from the local hubs. Last year we ran a pilot course on e-facilitation. The results were good, and successful participants received a certificate, which some of them used for e-facilitation in other policy spaces. This could be also another encouragement. I reiterate Ginger's offer of Diplo support if we can help in any way. I look forward to the continued discussion. Regards, Jovan On 4/30/12 3:53 PM, Keisha Taylor wrote: > Hi All, > > I like the ideas listed below. I think that the inclusion of social > media should be more formally introduced as part of remote > participation so that even if the sessions sometimes do not reach > people (for technical/timezone/bandwidth etc issues), the > conversations surrounding the sessions can reach a much bigger > audience even if the actual sessions were missed. > > I also think that it may be useful to use the IGF to gage opinions or > insight on various issues from not only IGF attendees but from those > who cannot attend. This be through surveys or other lightweight but > effective initiatives. The results of this I think can provide some > very interesting insight. > > Best > > Keisha > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Ginger Paque > wrote: > > Hello everyone, and thanks for taking this important discussion > seriously. > > Adam Peake suggested we start a formal set of guidelines or input > to the IGF Remote Participation and Access issues for Baku. > There have been great suggestions already, which I have compiled > below. If anything is missing, please let us/me know. I add any > additional comments, and will put this in a more coherent format > before the end of the week. > > Ginger: Support the DCAD on access issues as RP and access are > closely linked Deidre says: Avoid conflating the issues > Have a liason between RP working group or others who are working > on RP with Bernard or the IGF secretariat, to facilitate > coordination of volunteer efforts. > Ask that experienced and new interested MAG members organize to > support these issues (Katitza? Vlada? others?) > Add the guidelines and principles from previous IGF workshops. > > Anriette Esterhuysen: refer to the report of the CSTD working > group on IGF improvements: > > 2. Enhance measures for broader participation > > 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote > participation has improved, in particular through remote > moderators and > hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: > > (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of > adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; > (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants > equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; > > (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be > accommodated; > > (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by > ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site > interpretation; > > (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live > transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such > mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to > non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are > on site or not. > > 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s > facilities > to persons with disabilities. > > 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and > cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity > functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be > achieved by > (resources permitting): > > (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations > official languages; > > (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on > realtime English transcripts; > > (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official > languages, > not only English, as the working language in some workshops. > > 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF > > 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s > website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more > attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with > open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with > disabilities. > > http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf > Deirdre William: identify and train moderators, consider some kind > of recognition for volunteers > Nnenna: Avoid last minute changes in programming, and consider how > they affect in situ and RP when necessary > Janna Anderson: Good lighting in the room helps RP images - Roland > Perry: have to manage ppt/presentations in lighting as well. > Tim Davies: Add social aggregator tool > > > On 30 April 2012 08:18, Roland Perry > > wrote: > > In message > >, at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 Apr > 2012, Deirdre Williams > writes > > I also think that we should look at RP the other way round > too. Currently it isn't possible to make not being > physically present the same as being physically present. > Therefore we at least should be clear about what are MUST > HAVES and what may come later. > > Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access > for people with disabilities. They are both separate and > important issues, and both of them deserve individual > attention > > > My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either > community. I wasn't making a judgement about which community > "deserved" the solution more than the other. > -- > Roland Perry > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> Dear colleagues, With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's not forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the violations of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the country is. To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. 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In-Reply-To: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: Dear Robert and All, Reports of human rights violations should always be taken seriously and as civil society it is our duty to raise and highlight strategies for advocacy and what shape this should take whether it should include things like:- - Issuing a Statement; - Getting our MAG representatives to raise this; However it would be prudent whilst we are strategizing to assess the situation and summarize it into a 2 pages and create a fact sheet to enable us to strategize. This can include things like "context", "rule of law index", whether they are parties to either the ICCPR or ICESCR and other Human Rights instruments. I also like what you are raising Robert in terms of maintaining a "stand". Are there civil society organisations in Azerbaijan that we can draw from to know what's happening on the ground other than what we can pick up from the Internet? On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's not > forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the violations > of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. > > We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow > for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only > for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. > > As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type > scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor > of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their > repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the > country is. > > To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the > IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human > Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. > > Look forward to everyone's comments. > > regards > > Robert > > > > -- > R. 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You can keep a tab on the general pulse of things and factor this into your discussions where necessary. Kind Regards, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro Date: Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:29 AM Subject: Consolidated Themes MAG Consultations [FINAL] To: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Cc: Fouad Bajwa , Katitza Rodriguez Dear All, I am pleased to advise that we have completed consolidating all the contributions that came in. We hope that this will enable our current MAG members to take this forward. Kind Regards, Sala - -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <4F9EB51C.2050609@eff.org> Hi, I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in a UN meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this UN rule that I have never ever read. Another unknown rule for me was the one that was applied to ONI when they run their workshop in Egypt releasing the finding of their report about Internet Censorship. Suddenly, an unknown rule was applied to them without many of us not knowing that this rule exist. I fear that an unknown rule can be apply to some of our activists in Baku if they do their job of raising the awareness of the violations. We should make sure that w can have more UN Rapporteurs on the room to help us deal with it. I know Frank La Rue will go but may be others should join him. See news below about UN (not related) but again, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, is calling for the support of bloggers in their own countries, we need to make sure that they can do the same in Baku. 25 April: Restrictions on NGOs worldwide undermining human rights, says UN senior official Recent moves in a number of countries to limit the freedom of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are seriously undermining human rights, a United Nations senior official said today, urging governments to revise proposed laws that would restrict their capacity to operate independently and effectively. “Civil society – including NGOs, trade unions, human rights defenders, academics, journalists, bloggers and others – plays an absolutely crucial role in ensuring that human rights are protected in individual states,” said the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay. “A dynamic and autonomous civil society, able to operate freely, is one of the fundamental checks and balances necessary for building a healthy society, and one of the key bridges between governments and their people. It is therefore crucial that NGOs are able to function properly in countries in transition, as well as in established democracies,” she added. http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=&NewsID=41858 On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's > not forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the > violations of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. > > We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that > allow for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and > association not only for participants of the IGF but also those in > the country. > > As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type > scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented > repressor of online activists and human rights. We can not be > complicit in their repression nor be used as pawns in their PR > campaign as to how great the country is. > > To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after > the IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of > Human Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. > > Look forward to everyone's comments. > > regards > > Robert > > > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Mon Apr 30 11:54:34 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:54:34 -0400 Subject: [governance] Rights issues in Azerbaijan / What will CS @ Baku do? In-Reply-To: <4F9EB51C.2050609@eff.org> References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> <4F9EB51C.2050609@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9EB5BA.4080101@eff.org> I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in a IGF meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this UN rule that I have never ever read. On 4/30/12 11:51 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi, > > I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" > in a UN meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link > to this UN rule that I have never ever read. > > Another unknown rule for me was the one that was applied to ONI when > they run their workshop in Egypt releasing the finding of their report > about Internet Censorship. Suddenly, an unknown rule was applied to > them without many of us not knowing that this rule exist. > > I fear that an unknown rule can be apply to some of our activists in > Baku if they do their job of raising the awareness of the violations. > We should make sure that w can have more UN Rapporteurs on the room to > help us deal with it. I know Frank La Rue will go but may be others > should join him. > > See news below about UN (not related) but again, UN High Commissioner > for Human Rights, is calling for the support of bloggers in their own > countries, we need to make sure that they can do the same in Baku. > > 25 April: Restrictions on NGOs worldwide undermining human rights, > says UN senior official > Recent moves in a number of countries to limit the freedom of > non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are seriously undermining human > rights, a United Nations senior official said today, urging > governments to revise proposed laws that would restrict their capacity > to operate independently and effectively. “Civil society – including > NGOs, trade unions, human rights defenders, academics, journalists, > bloggers and others – plays an absolutely crucial role in ensuring > that human rights are protected in individual states,” said the UN > High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay. “A dynamic and > autonomous civil society, able to operate freely, is one of the > fundamental checks and balances necessary for building a healthy > society, and one of the key bridges between governments and their > people. It is therefore crucial that NGOs are able to function > properly in countries in transition, as well as in established > democracies,” she added. > http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=&NewsID=41858 > > On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's >> not forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the >> violations of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. >> >> We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that >> allow for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and >> association not only for participants of the IGF but also those in >> the country. >> >> As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type >> scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented >> repressor of online activists and human rights. We can not be >> complicit in their repression nor be used as pawns in their PR >> campaign as to how great the country is. >> >> To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after >> the IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion >> of Human Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. >> >> Look forward to everyone's comments. >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> -- >> R. Guerra >> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >> > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundation > katitza at eff.org > katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tamanikaiwaimaro) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:13:14 -0400 Subject: [governance] May consultation: IGC input In-Reply-To: <00c501cd26d8$5e5f7cc0$1b1e7640$@diplomacy.edu> References: <00c501cd26d8$5e5f7cc0$1b1e7640$@diplomacy.edu> Message-ID: Dear All, On the issue of Remote Participation, please note that the IGC had widely consulted and collaborated on a Statement which is available via the IGC website. See: http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/47 Please feel free to draw from this statement as consensus was reached on the matter etc as notably there are some aspects of our statement that is not included in the CSTD Report which should be raised in the discussions. Kind Regards, Sala On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Vladimir Radunovic wrote: > Adam, thanks for raising the issue. I have just shared these few > proposals for the OC and MAG agenda with MAG list: Remote participation and > accessibility for PWD as first.**** > > We will keep you all updated.**** > > ** ** > > As for reporting to the CS, let's start with what we have already: I will > be tweeting via @vradunovic whenever applicable. Others from MAG may also > share their twitter accounts or blogs if they blog regularly, and this can > be a good start (without formal reports).**** > > ** ** > > Best,**** > > ** ** > > Vlada**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto: > governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] *On Behalf Of *Judy Okite > *Sent:* 30 April 2012 15:23 > *To:* Adam Peake > *Cc:* governance at lists.igcaucus.org > *Subject:* Re: [governance] May consultation: IGC input**** > > ** ** > > Thank you, Adam....will do. > > Kind Regards, > > > **** > *“Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > impossible” Edwin Land***** > > > > **** > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Adam Peake wrote:**** > > Judy, hi. > > Perhaps you could suggest on the MAG mailing list that there's a slot > on the agenda of both the open consultation and the MAG meeting for > discussion of accessibility. Could be part of the host country > discussion of the venue. > > And could you or one of the other MAG members also suggest remote > access also be discussed during both meetings. > > We don't need to develop proposals at the moment, just ask that the > topics are on the agenda. > > Best, > > Adam**** > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Judy Okite wrote: > > Hello Adam, Deidre, All, > > > > thank you, very much, just to let you know, we are taking notes and > indeed, > > the issues that you are raising are quite important. > > > > 1. on the PWD's and accessibility, DCAD forwarded recommendations to the > > Secretariat, bearing in mind, the possibility of holding the forum in > > three different venues. > > > > I strongly encourage these discussions. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > “Don't undertake a project unless it is manifestly important and nearly > > impossible” Edwin Land > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Deirdre Williams > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 29 April 2012 05:47, Adam Peake wrote: > >> > >> Dear Adam and everyone, > >>> > >>> > >>> But for now I suggest we ask that remote access and accessibility of > >>> the Baku venue be put on the agendas of both the open consultation and > >>> the MAG meeting. > >> > >> > >> Accessibility in Baku for everyone is extremely important, not just as a > >> practical consideration but symbolically for the IGF itself. > >> > >> Last year in Nairobi the electricity supply (or lack of it) seemed to be > >> one of the main technical factors affecting remote access - something > >> important to remember for this year. > >> > >> On the human side the remote moderators are an essential link in the > >> chain. The moderators in the workshops I 'attended' (from Saint Lucia) > were > >> a great help. > >> However - moderators do need some training in their function and > therefore > >> the earlier they can be recruited the better AND moderation needs to be > >> extended as much and as quickly as possible into languages other than > >> English. > >> > >> Deirdre > >> > >>> > >> -- > >> “The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir > William > >> Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979 > >> > >> ____________________________________________________________ > >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org > >> To be removed from the list, visit: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > >> > >> For all other list information and functions, see: > >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ > >> > >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > >> > >**** > > ** ** > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C024C87-2999-42E7-943C-C3D201133A45@ella.com> i will be there and all things equal will attend the meeting. avri On 26 Apr 2012, at 20:30, Izumi AIZU wrote: > I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF > MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop > on May 18. > > I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare > for the MAG meeting > > Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, > when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, > Monday. > > Thanks, > > izumi > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From katitza at eff.org Mon Apr 30 15:28:05 2012 From: katitza at eff.org (Katitza Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:28:05 -0400 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: <4C024C87-2999-42E7-943C-C3D201133A45@ella.com> References: <4C024C87-2999-42E7-943C-C3D201133A45@ella.com> Message-ID: <4F9EE7C5.5030702@eff.org> I'll there from Saturday 12 until Friday 18. On 4/30/12 3:25 PM, Avri Doria wrote: > i will be there and all things equal will attend the meeting. > > avri > > On 26 Apr 2012, at 20:30, Izumi AIZU wrote: > >> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and also IGF >> MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop >> on May 18. >> >> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare >> for the MAG meeting >> >> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, >> when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, >> Monday. >> >> Thanks, >> >> izumi >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > -- Katitza Rodriguez International Rights Director Electronic Frontier Foundation katitza at eff.org katitza at datos-personales.org (personal email) Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From jcurran at istaff.org Mon Apr 30 15:52:23 2012 From: jcurran at istaff.org (John Curran) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:52:23 -0400 Subject: [governance] ICANN Wraps Up Prague Meeting on Thursday Message-ID: <9601A350-5E1A-429D-9ECF-B39E12417917@istaff.org> FYI - ICANN today announced a change in traditional meeting schedule... (this was a popular rumor during ICANN Costa Rica, to generally positive reactions) /John === http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-30apr12-en.htm > On behalf of our Chairman of the Board, Steve Crocker: > > "In our ongoing efforts to improve the ICANN Meeting experience for all participants, we are implementing some changes for the June meeting in Prague. > > The Friday morning program, which in the past has comprised AC/SO committee reports, Board committee reports, and the public Board meeting, has been removed. > > AC/SO committee reports and Board committee reports will now be published for review on the ICANN website. > > The public Board meeting has been replaced with a one-hour session following the Public Forum on Thursday afternoon. In this session the Board will outline what they have heard during the week from their meetings with AC/SOs and their constituent parts and will identify those matters they expect to be dealing with between the Prague and Toronto Meetings. > > The close of this session (expected to be around 18:00) will mark the official end of the ICANN meeting and will be immediately followed by a two-hour farewell reception for all ICANN Meeting participants. > > It is intended that at the beginning of the Toronto meeting there will be a Board community session where the Board will report to the community on what they have dealt with since Prague. > > We believe that the removal of the Friday public Board meeting and its replacement with two Board community sessions will improve the effectiveness of both the Board and the staff and increase the time that the Board has to interact with the community. > > We hope you find these changes also make more effective use of your time and enhance the overall ICANNMeeting experience. The Public Participation Committee will hold a public session in Toronto to discuss and review them." -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From riaz.tayob at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 16:22:16 2012 From: riaz.tayob at gmail.com (Riaz K Tayob) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:22:16 +0300 Subject: [governance] The Pirate Bay: British ISPs Ordered To Block File-Sharing Website Message-ID: <4F9EF478.4080608@gmail.com> *The Pirate Bay: British ISPs Ordered To Block File-Sharing Website* The Huffington Post UK | By Charlie Lindlar Posted: 30/04/2012 16:00 Updated: 30/04/2012 17:02 Polls, File-Sharing, High Court, Pirate Bay Banned, Pirate Bay Blocked, Pirate Bay High Court, Pirate Bay Uk, Sweden, The Pirate Bay, Torrents, Uk News, Uk Tech, Uk World, UK News The Pirate Bay The file-sharing website allows users to share files with limitless users across the world Swedish file-sharing website The Pirate Bay will be blocked in the UK, following a High Court ruling on Monday. The website, which allows users to share films, music, games and TV shows for free, will be cordoned off by internet service providers (ISPs) including Sky, Virgin Media and O2, restricting UK users' access to the website. The website itself hosts no illegal files, instead acting as a conduit for users to share files amongst each other. OPINION: Scroll down to leave your comments The site was prohibited after an attempt by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) to voluntarily block the site. ISPs refused to do so without a court order. The BPI's chief executive Geoff Taylor said that: "The High Court has confirmed that The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale." Taylor went on to claim, "sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4F9EB5BA.4080101@eff.org> References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> <4F9EB51C.2050609@eff.org> <4F9EB5BA.4080101@eff.org> Message-ID: Dear All, This is the 2011 World Report Human Rights Report on Azerbaijan, see: http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/azerbaijan Kind Regards, Sala On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in a > IGF meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this > UN rule that I have never ever read. > > > > On 4/30/12 11:51 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > > > Hi, > > I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in a > UN meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this UN > rule that I have never ever read. > > Another unknown rule for me was the one that was applied to ONI when they > run their workshop in Egypt releasing the finding of their report about > Internet Censorship. Suddenly, an unknown rule was applied to them without > many of us not knowing that this rule exist. > > I fear that an unknown rule can be apply to some of our activists in Baku > if they do their job of raising the awareness of the violations. We should > make sure that w can have more UN Rapporteurs on the room to help us deal > with it. I know Frank La Rue will go but may be others should join him. > > See news below about UN (not related) but again, UN High Commissioner for > Human Rights, is calling for the support of bloggers in their own > countries, we need to make sure that they can do the same in Baku. > > 25 April: Restrictions on NGOs worldwide undermining human rights, says UN > senior official > Recent moves in a number of countries to limit the freedom of > non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are seriously undermining human > rights, a United Nations senior official said today, urging governments to > revise proposed laws that would restrict their capacity to operate > independently and effectively. “Civil society – including NGOs, trade > unions, human rights defenders, academics, journalists, bloggers and others > – plays an absolutely crucial role in ensuring that human rights are > protected in individual states,” said the UN High Commissioner for Human > Rights, Navi Pillay. “A dynamic and autonomous civil society, able to > operate freely, is one of the fundamental checks and balances necessary for > building a healthy society, and one of the key bridges between governments > and their people. It is therefore crucial that NGOs are able to function > properly in countries in transition, as well as in established > democracies,” she added. > http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=&NewsID=41858 > > On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's not > forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the violations > of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. > > We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow > for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only > for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. > > As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type > scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor > of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their > repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the > country is. > > To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the > IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human > Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. > > Look forward to everyone's comments. > > regards > > Robert > > > > -- > R. Guerra > Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 > Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom > Email: rguerra at privaterra.org > > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 > > > > -- > Katitza Rodriguez > International Rights Director > Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) > > Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From tracyhackshaw at gmail.com Mon Apr 30 16:44:38 2012 From: tracyhackshaw at gmail.com (Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:44:38 -0400 Subject: [governance] Rights issues in Azerbaijan / What will CS @ Baku do? In-Reply-To: References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> <4F9EB51C.2050609@eff.org> <4F9EB5BA.4080101@eff.org> Message-ID: An updated version of this Report is at http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-azerbaijan On Apr 30, 2012 4:39 PM, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > This is the 2011 World Report Human Rights Report on Azerbaijan, see: > http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/azerbaijan > > > Kind Regards, > Sala > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: > >> I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in >> a IGF meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this >> UN rule that I have never ever read. >> >> >> >> On 4/30/12 11:51 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in >> a UN meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this >> UN rule that I have never ever read. >> >> Another unknown rule for me was the one that was applied to ONI when they >> run their workshop in Egypt releasing the finding of their report about >> Internet Censorship. Suddenly, an unknown rule was applied to them without >> many of us not knowing that this rule exist. >> >> I fear that an unknown rule can be apply to some of our activists in Baku >> if they do their job of raising the awareness of the violations. We should >> make sure that w can have more UN Rapporteurs on the room to help us deal >> with it. I know Frank La Rue will go but may be others should join him. >> >> See news below about UN (not related) but again, UN High Commissioner for >> Human Rights, is calling for the support of bloggers in their own >> countries, we need to make sure that they can do the same in Baku. >> >> 25 April: Restrictions on NGOs worldwide undermining human rights, says >> UN senior official >> Recent moves in a number of countries to limit the freedom of >> non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are seriously undermining human >> rights, a United Nations senior official said today, urging governments to >> revise proposed laws that would restrict their capacity to operate >> independently and effectively. “Civil society – including NGOs, trade >> unions, human rights defenders, academics, journalists, bloggers and others >> – plays an absolutely crucial role in ensuring that human rights are >> protected in individual states,” said the UN High Commissioner for Human >> Rights, Navi Pillay. “A dynamic and autonomous civil society, able to >> operate freely, is one of the fundamental checks and balances necessary for >> building a healthy society, and one of the key bridges between governments >> and their people. It is therefore crucial that NGOs are able to function >> properly in countries in transition, as well as in established >> democracies,” she added. >> http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=&NewsID=41858 >> >> On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's not >> forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the violations >> of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. >> >> We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow >> for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only >> for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. >> >> As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type >> scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor >> of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their >> repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the >> country is. >> >> To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the >> IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human >> Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. >> >> Look forward to everyone's comments. >> >> regards >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> -- >> R. Guerra >> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Katitza Rodriguez >> International Rights Director >> Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) >> >> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 >> >> >> >> -- >> Katitza Rodriguez >> International Rights Director >> Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) >> >> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > > > -- > Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala > > Tweeter: @SalanietaT > Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro > Cell: +679 998 2851 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > You received this message as a subscriber on the list: > governance at lists.igcaucus.org > To be removed from the list, visit: > http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing > > For all other list information and functions, see: > http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: > http://www.igcaucus.org/ > > Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hackshaw @ Google < tracyhackshaw at gmail.com> wrote: > An updated version of this Report is at > http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-azerbaijan > On Apr 30, 2012 4:39 PM, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" < > salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> This is the 2011 World Report Human Rights Report on Azerbaijan, see: >> http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/azerbaijan >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> Sala >> >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: >> >>> I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in >>> a IGF meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this >>> UN rule that I have never ever read. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/30/12 11:51 AM, Katitza Rodriguez wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I always hear this rule about the fact that we can't name a "country" in >>> a UN meeting, and this is an UN rule. I really would like the link to this >>> UN rule that I have never ever read. >>> >>> Another unknown rule for me was the one that was applied to ONI when >>> they run their workshop in Egypt releasing the finding of their report >>> about Internet Censorship. Suddenly, an unknown rule was applied to them >>> without many of us not knowing that this rule exist. >>> >>> I fear that an unknown rule can be apply to some of our activists in >>> Baku if they do their job of raising the awareness of the violations. We >>> should make sure that w can have more UN Rapporteurs on the room to help us >>> deal with it. I know Frank La Rue will go but may be others should join him. >>> >>> See news below about UN (not related) but again, UN High Commissioner >>> for Human Rights, is calling for the support of bloggers in their own >>> countries, we need to make sure that they can do the same in Baku. >>> >>> 25 April: Restrictions on NGOs worldwide undermining human rights, says >>> UN senior official >>> Recent moves in a number of countries to limit the freedom of >>> non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are seriously undermining human >>> rights, a United Nations senior official said today, urging governments to >>> revise proposed laws that would restrict their capacity to operate >>> independently and effectively. “Civil society – including NGOs, trade >>> unions, human rights defenders, academics, journalists, bloggers and others >>> – plays an absolutely crucial role in ensuring that human rights are >>> protected in individual states,” said the UN High Commissioner for Human >>> Rights, Navi Pillay. “A dynamic and autonomous civil society, able to >>> operate freely, is one of the fundamental checks and balances necessary for >>> building a healthy society, and one of the key bridges between governments >>> and their people. It is therefore crucial that NGOs are able to function >>> properly in countries in transition, as well as in established >>> democracies,” she added. >>> http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?Cr1=&NewsID=41858 >>> >>> On 4/30/12 10:27 AM, Robert Guerra wrote: >>> >>> Dear colleagues, >>> >>> With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's >>> not forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the >>> violations of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. >>> >>> We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow >>> for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only >>> for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. >>> >>> As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type >>> scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor >>> of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their >>> repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the >>> country is. >>> >>> To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the >>> IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human >>> Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. >>> >>> Look forward to everyone's comments. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> R. Guerra >>> Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 >>> Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom >>> Email: rguerra at privaterra.org >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Katitza Rodriguez >>> International Rights Director >>> Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) >>> >>> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Katitza Rodriguez >>> International Rights Director >>> Electronic Frontier Foundationkatitza at eff.orgkatitza@datos-personales.org (personal email) >>> >>> Please support EFF - Working to protect your digital rights and freedom of speech since 1990 >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala >> >> Tweeter: @SalanietaT >> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro >> Cell: +679 998 2851 >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> -- Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala Tweeter: @SalanietaT Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro Cell: +679 998 2851 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The theme for this year’s Congress will be “Setting the positive agenda in motion.” This note invites applications to attend the Congress, including proposals to chair workshops or deliver a paper or presentation related to the Congress’s theme. APPLICATION AND COST INFORMATION The application form is available now at http://infojustice.org/globalcongress2012/registration. Due to generous support from our sponsors, the Congress will cover the registration fees and all on-site costs for all attendees, including lunches and dinner receptions. Limited travel grants to cover accommodation and/or travel to the Congress will be available, with priorities for those from developing countries. DEADLINES § Priority applications for travel assistance and to present or chair a workshop at the Congress will be due by August 1, 2012. § Final applications for travel grants, subject to funding availability, as well as applications to present at the Congress, will be due by September 1, 2012. § Applicants not seeking travel assistance or presentation opportunities may apply to attend the Congress by November 1, 2012. BACKGROUND AND EXPLANATION OF THE THEME The First Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest was convened in 2011 to define a positive agenda for policy reform, build a global network of scholars and advocates to promote the agenda and provide opportunities for the sharing of research and strategies. The nearly 200 inaugural participants from over 30 countries and 6 continents deliberated over three days through in-person meetings and web-based collaboration to produce the Washington Declaration on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest (http://infojustice.org/washington-declaration) — an action agenda for promoting the public interest in intellectual property and information law reform around the world. Sixteen months later, we come together to measure our progress and expand the positive agenda. To this end, we invite applications to attend the Congress and contribute to its deliberations identifying forums where policy is being developed, proposing policies or actions that promote public interest goals and principles, and identifying and planning to respond to research and analysis needs. PRESENTATION OPPORTUNITIES Because the primary purpose of the Congress is to promote deliberation and action planning, the opportunities for formal presentation will be somewhat limited. We will, however, have spaces for keynote presentations or panel discussions for each session (see below). In addition, as in the inaugural year, the Congress will host small works-in-progress workshops to allow participants to share their own work and solicit feedback from peers. DRAFT WORKSHOP SESSIONS Six main tracks will include a half day workshop introduced by a lecture or panel discussion on one or more of the themes noted below. The keynote introduction will be followed by deliberation in which participants will, first, review progress and opportunity in existing or potential policy forums and, second, review the current state of research and identify policy and empirical research needs and resources. Tracks will also have opportunities to draft statements or action plans for adoption at the closing plenary of the Congress or for discussion and online after the Congress ends. We encourage applicants to identify specific sessions in which they would like to contribute. *Regulating Intellectual Property**: *This session will survey recent developments and proposals to regulate uses of intellectual property through other legal doctrines that express and safeguard human values, including human rights, consumer protection, competition and privacy laws. *Valuing Openness and the Public Domain:* This session will survey recent developments and proposals to ensure that creative and innovative works ultimately become free for all to use as part of the public domain, including through open licensing, open access, open educational resources, open data, open standards, open government, and related open information policies. *Strengthening Limitations and Exceptions as Enabling Tools for Innovation and Expression*: This session will survey recent developments and proposals to use limitations and exceptions as positive enabling doctrines to ensure that intellectual property law fulfills its ultimate purpose of promoting essential aspects of the public interest. *Setting Public Interest Priorities for Patent and Research and Development Reform*: This session will survey recent developments and proposals to ensure that patent and other research and development policies serve all segments of society, and particularly the most disadvantaged, and accommodate the diverse needs of a complex world with a more diverse structure of incentives for innovation. *Supporting Cultural Creativity:* This session will survey recent developments and proposals to maximize opportunities for creativity while increasing access to creative works and helping to end disputes over practices like non-commercial file-sharing. *Checking Enforcement Excesses:* This session will survey recent developments and proposals to ensure that intellectual property enforcement policies and practices respect the human rights principle of proportionality and are not used as a diversion from the difficult task of tailoring intellectual property norms to their social contexts. *Implementing Development Agendas:* This session will survey recent developments and proposals to fully integrate the development dimension into intellectual property policy and norm-setting at all levels of international and national intellectual policy making. *Targeted Research:* Given the spectrum of issues described above, what are the key research needs? Given academic incentive structures, what kinds of research fall through the cracks? Given the funding crisis in this field, how can we meet research needs on the cheap? Given the international scope of many policy issues, how can we work collaboratively and comparatively? Given the Internet, how can we develop and leverage new software tools for data collection? In addition to the above sessions, we invite presentations on other topics relevant to the positive agenda the Washington Declaration promotes, including: § the role of mobilisation and activism. § collaboration between ISPs and governments in enforcement § the ecology of access to educational materials § designing copyright from scratch § updates and lessons from specific forms, e.g. WIPO, national legislatures, trade negotiations, etc. The application form is available now at http://infojustice.org/globalcongress2012/registration . Please forward this invitation to interested lists and individuals. For more information or questions, you may contactglobalcongress2012 at gmail.com. GLOBAL CONGRESS PLANNING COMMITTEE: § Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade – CTS | FGV DIREITO RIO, 2012 Chair § American Assembly, Columbia University, New York § International Centre for Trade and Sustainable Development, Geneva § Centre for Internet and Society, India § Open African Innovation Research and Training (Open AIR) initiative § Program on Information Justice and Intellectual Property, American University, Wash. D.C. -- Joana Varon Ferraz Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade (CTS-FGV) http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts/ http://a2kbrasil.org.br @joana_varon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From graciela at nupef.org.br Mon Apr 30 17:50:09 2012 From: graciela at nupef.org.br (Graciela Selaimen) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:50:09 -0300 Subject: [governance] May 14 meeting in Geneva? In-Reply-To: <4F9EE7C5.5030702@eff.org> References: <4C024C87-2999-42E7-943C-C3D201133A45@ella.com> <4F9EE7C5.5030702@eff.org> Message-ID: <4F9F0911.2010700@nupef.org.br> Dear all, Unfortunately, due to previously scheduled commitments, I won't be able to be in Geneve for the MAG meeting. best regards, Graciela Selaimen Instituto Nupef Em 4/30/12 4:28 PM, Katitza Rodriguez escreveu: > I'll there from Saturday 12 until Friday 18. > > On 4/30/12 3:25 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >> i will be there and all things equal will attend the meeting. >> >> avri >> >> On 26 Apr 2012, at 20:30, Izumi AIZU wrote: >> >>> I wonder how many from us are coming to Geneva for WSIS week and >>> also IGF >>> MAG open consultation and also the Enhanced Cooperation workshop >>> on May 18. >>> >>> I like to propose a meeting in the afternoon on May 14, to prepare >>> for the MAG meeting >>> >>> Could you please indicate here if you are coming to Geneva that time, >>> when to arrive and also if able to attend this prep meeting on May 14, >>> Monday. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> izumi >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> > > -- Graciela Selaimen Instituto Nupef www.nupef.org.br www.politics.org.br www.rets.org.br www.tiwa.org.br -------------- next part -------------- ____________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: governance at lists.igcaucus.org To be removed from the list, visit: http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing For all other list information and functions, see: http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: http://www.igcaucus.org/ Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t From vanda at uol.com.br Mon Apr 30 19:04:13 2012 From: vanda at uol.com.br (Vanda UOL) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:04:13 -0300 Subject: RES: [governance] Rights issues in Azerbaijan / What will CS @ Baku do? In-Reply-To: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> References: <9E31BF0D-4F90-4592-A946-7E71BEDA3DDC@privaterra.org> Message-ID: <016801cd2725$e1881ec0$a4985c40$@uol.com.br> Robert, you right and let´s also pay attention to the vote in US Senate as below. Even being a US internal issue still lots of government are used to follow US bills . I personally do not believe the Senate will vote in favor and still have Obama´s veto to use. But worth some attention. best Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados IT Trend Avenida Paulista 1159 cj 1004 01311-200 São Paulo,SP, Brasil Tel + 5511 3266.6253 Mob + 55118181.1464 Dissemine esta idéia: Digite o dominio ao inves do telefone. Domain dialing Descrição: Descrição: Siter-16-square.png www.siter.com De: governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.igcaucus.org] Em nome de Robert Guerra Enviada em: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2012 11:28 Para: governance at lists.igcaucus.org Assunto: [governance] Rights issues in Azerbaijan / What will CS @ Baku do? Dear colleagues, With all the focus on IGF MAG renewal and remote participation, let's not forget that the Governance Caucus should not lose track of the violations of human rights that are being reported in Azerbaijan. We need to make sure the UN and Azeri hosts make commitments that allow for respect & protection of Freedom of expression and association not only for participants of the IGF but also those in the country. As i've mentioned to many of you privately, we face a Tunis 2005 type scenario - that being, dealing with a well known and documented repressor of online activists and human rights. We can not be complicit in their repression nor be used as pawns in their PR campaign as to how great the country is. To not challenge the country to do better - before, during and after the IGF in Nov - is to not be faithful to the hard fought inclusion of Human Rights in the IGF 2005 summit documents. Look forward to everyone's comments. regards Robert -- R. Guerra Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rguerra at privaterra.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2817 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1020 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have put Peter, Cynthia, Alexandra and Xiaoya on the copy line so everyone is on the same page. Andrea J Saks From her iPhonel On 30 April 2012 09:44, Jovan Kurbalija wrote: > Following up on Adam's invitation to discuss, here are a few comments on > IGF RP.... > > It is good that we are moving out of Parento's formula of having 20% of > investment (people, training) contributing 80% to the success of remote > participation. The CSTD paper is a good blend of summarising experience > over the last 6 years and paving the way for the future development. The RP > process proves the importance of organic and bottom-up policy making. > > Here are a few more concrete comments: > > - One can see cross-fertilisation among different policy spaces. ICANN, > which introduced transcription into the IG policy space, has effective RP. > The WSIS Forum has introduced also highly functional RP. Last week, INET > had both RP and remote hubs. Each policy space has its own specificities, > but there is a lot of possibilities for learning from each other. At the > next WSIS Forum there will be a session on e-participation. Ginger will > maintain the tradition of RP-workshop at the IGF Baku, as well. Diplo has > been trying to promote e-participation in other policy spaces in the > context of the project "20 years of e-diplomacy". The first discussions are > highly encouraging. > > - Since the "venue" problems are identified and will be fixed, the main > challenge will be to have effective local hubs. The key contribution of > e-participation will be in linking global/regional IG debates to the local > policy context. The benefits will flow both ways from global to local > (understanding the wider policy context) and from local to global (having > reality check about policy discussions). Local hubs should be part of the > local policy processes as well. I am sure that Ginger, Marilia, Bernard, > Vlada and other conveyers of local hubs can develop the recommendations for > the sub-section on local hubs. > > - E-facilitation and local hubs are one the ways to engage "silent > majority". The more IGF moves beyond traditional IGF circles, the more > relevant it will be to the world at large. Typically, the e-IGF attracts > the most active people on social media. But, e-facilitators - especially in > local hubs - should engage people beyond the "usual circles". In the > build-up for the IGF, local hubs should facilitate discussion on the most > pressing local issues. > > - We should develop some sort of incentives for local hubs facilitators. > It could be participation in the next IGF for the most successful hubs and > publishing of reports from the local hubs. Last year we ran a pilot course > on e-facilitation. The results were good, and successful participants > received a certificate, which some of them used for e-facilitation in other > policy spaces. This could be also another encouragement. > > I reiterate Ginger's offer of Diplo support if we can help in any way. I > look forward to the continued discussion. > > Regards, Jovan > > > On 4/30/12 3:53 PM, Keisha Taylor wrote: > > Hi All, > > I like the ideas listed below. I think that the inclusion of social media > should be more formally introduced as part of remote participation so that > even if the sessions sometimes do not reach people (for > technical/timezone/bandwidth etc issues), the conversations surrounding the > sessions can reach a much bigger audience even if the actual sessions were > missed. > > I also think that it may be useful to use the IGF to gage opinions or > insight on various issues from not only IGF attendees but from those who > cannot attend. This be through surveys or other lightweight but effective > initiatives. The results of this I think can provide some very interesting > insight. > > Best > > Keisha > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Ginger Paque wrote: > >> Hello everyone, and thanks for taking this important discussion >> seriously. >> >> Adam Peake suggested we start a formal set of guidelines or input to the >> IGF Remote Participation and Access issues for Baku. >> There have been great suggestions already, which I have compiled below. >> If anything is missing, please let us/me know. I add any additional >> comments, and will put this in a more coherent format before the end of the >> week. >> >> Ginger: Support the DCAD on access issues as RP and access are closely >> linked Deidre says: Avoid conflating the issues >> Have a liason between RP working group or others who are working on RP >> with Bernard or the IGF secretariat, to facilitate coordination of >> volunteer efforts. >> Ask that experienced and new interested MAG members organize to support >> these issues (Katitza? Vlada? others?) >> Add the guidelines and principles from previous IGF workshops. >> >> Anriette Esterhuysen: refer to the report of the CSTD working >> group on IGF improvements: >> >> 2. Enhance measures for broader participation >> >> 42. Remote participation is an integral part of the IGF. While remote >> participation has improved, in particular through remote moderators and >> hubs, there is still room for improvement in the following areas: >> >> (a) The Secretariat should continue to ensure the availability of >> adequate technical and human resources, including remote moderators; >> (b) Chairs and moderators should give remote and on-site participants >> equal recognition and the opportunity to participate; >> >> (c) Low-bandwidth connections to remote participation tools should be >> accommodated; >> >> (d) Linguistic diversity in remote participation should be fostered by >> ensuring that online meeting platforms interface with on-site >> interpretation; >> >> (e) Mechanisms that facilitate remote participation, such as live >> transcripts, should be kept as an integral part of the IGF. Such >> mechanisms are invaluable not only to remote participants, but also to >> non-English-speakers and to people with disabilities, whether they are >> on site or not. >> >> 43. It is important to ensure the accessibility of the IGF’s facilities >> to persons with disabilities. >> >> 44. To improve participation in the IGF of diverse linguistic and >> cultural groups, it is important to expand linguistic diversity >> functions in the work of the IGF. For example, this could be achieved by >> (resources permitting): >> >> (a) Increasing the translation of key documents into United Nations >> official languages; >> >> (b) Exploring the use of simultaneous machine translations based on >> realtime English transcripts; >> >> (c) Encouraging the use of any of the United Nations official languages, >> not only English, as the working language in some workshops. >> >> 3. Improve the online visibility and accessibility of the IGF >> >> 45. A first step in this direction should be to enhance the IGF’s >> website by providing interactive functionalities and making it more >> attractive and inclusive. It should also maintain its conformance with >> open standards and further improve accessibility to persons with >> disabilities. >> >> http://unctad.org/meetings/en/SessionalDocuments/a67d65_en.pdf >> Deirdre William: identify and train moderators, consider some kind of >> recognition for volunteers >> Nnenna: Avoid last minute changes in programming, and consider how they >> affect in situ and RP when necessary >> Janna Anderson: Good lighting in the room helps RP images - Roland >> Perry: have to manage ppt/presentations in lighting as well. >> Tim Davies: Add social aggregator tool >> >> >> On 30 April 2012 08:18, Roland Perry wrote: >> >>> In message >> xfWm80Q at mail.gmail.com>, at 08:24:44 on Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Deirdre >>> Williams writes >>> >>>> I also think that we should look at RP the other way round too. >>>> Currently it isn't possible to make not being physically present the same >>>> as being physically present. Therefore we at least should be clear about >>>> what are MUST HAVES and what may come later. >>>> >>>> Also I think it is vital NOT TO conflate RP with access for people with >>>> disabilities. They are both separate and important issues, and both of them >>>> deserve individual attention >>>> >>> >>> My point is that the same solution is equally useful to either >>> community. I wasn't making a judgement about which community >>> "deserved" the solution more than the other. >>> -- >>> Roland Perry >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >>> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >>> To be removed from the list, visit: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >>> >>> For all other list information and functions, see: >>> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >>> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >>> >>> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list: >> governance at lists.igcaucus.org >> To be removed from the list, visit: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing >> >> For all other list information and functions, see: >> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see: >> http://www.igcaucus.org/ >> >> Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t >> >> > **** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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