[governance] November 1-2 Ministerial Cyber Event was Re: [] Cyber Security 2011

Katitza Rodriguez katitza at eff.org
Sun Oct 30 13:04:19 EDT 2011


The G-8 statement mentioned the London event this is why it was on my radar


On 10/30/11 10:46 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
> I apologize for sending out the wrong link at first.
>
> I had heard about the Chatham House event sitting in a conference meeting, was horrified and without having the correct information wanted to make a wider group of people aware - since the time is so short.  And what I did was confused things.
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> but at least the issue is now on the table.  And fortunately there were people to correct it.
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> Thanks to Wolfgang and Ben for correcting my erroneous sky is falling message.  I still think it may be falling, but not from the direction I was pointing.
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> So, is there any official information on this event other than the Register articles?  Is anyone on this list participating who can give more information?
> It does appear that they are doing a pretty good job of keeping this thing secret.  Why is that?
>
> avri
>
> Ps.
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>   One useful piece of info in the Register article:
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>> The event will be held on 1 and 2 November, watch out for The Register's foray into live-tweeting from the conference floor by following c. ®
> We should be ready to comment on the info that comes out of this event.  Quickly and loudly.
>
> On 30 Oct 2011, at 09:14, Rui Correia wrote:
>
>> Yes, Ben is right on the need to set the two apart. It would be useful for those commenting to state which event they are referring to.
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>> The link sent by Wolfgang is for an event co-sponsored by Chatham House, which has done great work in human rights, exposing corruption, etc etc. I would find it odd to see them involved in an event in collusion with governments/ business to shut out CS.
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>> Rui
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>> On 30 October 2011 15:01, Ben Wagner<b at nwagner.org>  wrote:
>> To clarify the difference, there is a difference between the two events. The first link by Avri isn't the offical conference, it's the inter-governmental event on Nov. 1-2 CS should be concerned about.
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>> To provide a little more context to the event:
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>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/26/cyber_hague_event/
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>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/20/bring_economics_into_freedom_debate/
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>>  From everything I have heard so far this will be a very high level event attempting to focus the debate on cyber security at the expense of most other internet governance issues.
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>> Ben
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>> On 30 October 2011 11:21, Louis Pouzin (well)<pouzin at well.com>  wrote:
>> This event sounds very much like a trade show on security, with a major sponsor Endace, a New Zealand company looking for worldwide expansion. Somehow, advertising the event smacks of show business, one day boondoggling in London for £995 + VAT registration. Are the good times coming back ?
>> - - -
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>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 13:35, Avri Doria<avri at acm.org>  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> This monstrosity was pointed out to me the other day.
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>> http://www.cybersecuritysummit.co.uk/
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>> As far as i can tell it is another conference on IG without Civil society representation, though a fair amount of business - the business especially who make a great part of their living from selling the tools of so called security.
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>> Have I missed the discussion of this on this list?
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>> avri
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