[governance] Formal IGC response to IBSA proposal ahead of 18-19 Summit?

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Now, this really helps, Bill! Excellent. Let us see how we can advance
in this way.

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 10/12/2011 11:56 AM, William Drake wrote:
> Hi Carlos
> 
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> 
>>>>> Clearly, a takeover of ICANN/IETF/W3C/RIRs, etc by a multilateral
>>>>> body (as proposed by IBSA) will not fill any gaps.  It's just a
>>>>> power play.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now, this is really news to me, and I think I know English enough to
>>>> grasp what the by now famous IBSA doc said or did not say.
>>>
>>> This is the link that I have based my reaction to the proposal upon:
>>> http://www.culturalivre.org.br/artigos/IBSA_recommendations_Internet_Governance.pdf
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is not
>>>> even mention of any of these entities, which are of entirely different
>>>> natures in scope, mandate, incidence, decision-making, relation to gov
>>>> bodies etc etc.
>>>
>>> I think you may have missed this bit then:
>>>
>>> "iii. integrate and oversee the bodies responsible for technical and
>>> operational functioning of the Internet, including global standards
>>> setting;"
>>
>> No mention of the specific entities and forms in which anything would
>> effectively be done. 
> 
> So just to be clear then, are you saying that by "the bodies responsible
> for technical and operational functioning of the Internet," the IBSA
> document does NOT mean ICANN/IETF/W3C/RIRs, etc?  If so this would have
> been good to know when we were debating this very point in the CIR main
> session in Nairobi, it'd have relaxed some of the palpable clenching in
> the room...
> 
>> Also, this "integration" or "oversight", in many
>> forms, has been part of the life of standards in any sector, much before
>> the Internet came to be, from screws to plugs to... And, of course,
>> being of entirely different natures and under distinct institutional
>> arrangements, this can mean anything. This is also why I insist we take
>> up the generalistic IBSA draft and try and propose changes, additions,
>> modifications etc as the three government reps are expecting from us.
> 
> Ok, I'll take the bait and start...
> 
> From the Rio recommendations paper, I suggest replacing:
> 
> "In order to prevent fragmentation of the Internet, avoid disjointed
> policy making, increase participation and ensure stability and smooth
> functioning of the Internet, an appropriate body is urgently required
> in the UN system to coordinate and evolve coherent and integrated global
> public policies pertaining to the Internet."
> 
> with
> 
> "In order to prevent fragmentation of the Internet, avoid disjointed
> policy making, increase participation and ensure stability and smooth
> functioning of the Internet, significantly increased peer-to-peer
> multistakeholder dialogue and collaboration is required on those issues
> that are agreed to require integrated global public policies."
> 
> By extension, I would strike:
> 
> "It was further agreed that the new body should inter alia:
> 
>     * be located within the UN system;
>     * be tasked to develop and establish international public policies
>       with a view to ensuring coordination and coherence in
>       cross-cutting Internet-related global issues;
>     * integrate and oversee the bodies responsible for technical and
>       operational functioning of the Internet, including global
>       standards setting;
>     * address developmental issues related to the internet;
>     * undertake arbitration and dispute resolution, where necessary, and
>     * be responsible for crisis management."
> 
> I would then replace
> 
> "The meeting agreed to prepare a detailed proposal outlining the
> modalities of the proposed new global Internet Governance body for
> consideration and approval of the IBSA Summit, scheduled to be held on
> October 18, 2011 in Durban, South Africa.  This proposal could
> thereafter be presented at the 66th UN General Assembly in New York…in
> December 2010 [sic]"
> 
> with
> 
> "The IBSA governments commit to engaging the global community in
> open, peer-to-peer multistakeholder dialogue in order to a) identify
> concrete, specific issues on which action may be required, and b)
> explore new and innovative forms of multistakeholder collaboration that
> could be used to address such issues.   Such a dialogue shall be
> commenced online with an eye toward assembling a
> representative multistakeholder drafting team that would prepare a
> written proposal for consideration at the 2012 Internet Governance Forum."
> 
> [Re: the above forms, one possible idea I raised in my workshop, on
> which there's been some subsequent discussion off-list, is to generalize
> elements of the AoC as a global framework.  Would be interested in
> coming back to that down the line…]
> 
> Finally, I would replace
> 
> "As a first step, it recommended the establishment of an IBSA Internet
> Governance and Development Observatory at the earliest. The Observatory
> should be tasked to monitor developments on global Internet Governance
> and provide regular updates and analyses from the perspective of
> developing countries."
> 
> "As a first step, IBSA governments agree to work with interested
> stakeholders from around the world to establish an Internet Governance
> and Development Observatory. The Observatory should be tasked with
> monitoring trends, aggregating ideas and information, and providing
> regular updates and analyses, with particular attention to the concerns
> of developing country governments and stakeholders.   Such an
> observatory could be institutionally nested within the Internet
> Governance Forum."
> 
> BTW I really like the observatory piece…as you may recall, Wolfgang and
> I included such a thing in the global governance section of the CS
> declaration at the 2003 WSIS summit in Geneva.  It was also embodied in
> some of our 2004 proposals for what became the IGF...
> 
> Hope this is helpful,
> 
> Bill
> 
> PS: I strongly agreed with your NCSG list posting :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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