[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .?? (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

[Deirdre Williams]

So is there anything to be done?
I'm not very enthusiastic about "finger-voting" but would a loud display of
enthusiasm from somewhere like Avaaz or Access Now be likely to have any
effect?
This is the second time in the same hour that I'm quoting Bob Marley "Get
up, stand up: *stand up for your rights*!" although on different issues.
It might also be useful to remember Martin Niemoller. I had occasion to
quote him yesterday on a third issue.

First they came for the communists <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist>,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade
unionists<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_unionist>
,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews>,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


My mother tongue is English. I use Latin script. I neither read, nor write,
nor understand Cyrillic or Greek script. I believe that this issue is
relevant and important to me and to others like me.

Deirdre



On 10 November 2011 09:27, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was in Bulgaria for the domain.forun at which Rod spoke.
>
> Of course I do not know what Rod and Parvanov spoke about.  But in other
> statements Rod, and Veni both made, they hid behind the bottom-up process
> and stated that it was rejected because of the bottom-up process and said
> that if the Bulgarians and Greeks wanted to change the rules they needed to
> go back to the ccNSO.  It is amazing how many time they invoked bottom-up
> process to defend unpopular Staff decisions - it was the mantra of the day.
>
> Of course they never spoke of what bottom-up decisions they were talking
> about.  Was there a bottom-up decision about what sort of things were
> confusing similar?  Was there a bottom-up decision about a lack of
> transparency and the absence of an appeal of an arbitrary decision or an
> extended review procedure?  No, these are ICANN implementation details.  I
> was an observer of the ccNSO group that made recommendations, and these
> issues never came up.  And for the GNSO, no matter how much the bottom-up
> process has requested an extended review for confusing similarity, it has
> been rejected by the ICANN Staff.  ICANN Staff has decided on its own that
> it is supreme when it comes to harmful confusing similarity.  I remember no
> bottom-up decisions giving ICANN staff supremacy in any topic, let alone
> this one.
>
> Another disturbing thing came up during these meetings.  There was a new
> notion introduced by those who spoke for ICANN.  I must note that I may
> have misunderstood it because some of it came from ICANN Staffers speaking
> in Bulgarian so I only heard a translation, but it sounded like the
> following:
>
> In any review of Cyrillic or Greek characters, not only do they have to
>  worry about existing LDH (letter digit hyphen) ASCII TLDs, but also myst
> complete with potential LDH ASCII that might be applied for some day.  This
> notion was extend not only to un-allocated ISO 2 character designations but
> to any Cyrillic or Greek TLD that may look similar to LDH characters.
>
> I.e. the notion I got out was that if the Cyrillic or Greek looks anything
> like ASCII, they can't have it.  ASCII trumps all. While this is bad,
> considering the stretch ICANN Staff makes when making these decision (б
> looks like b - really???), it is really awful. From the discussions I
> understood this would apply in gTLDS as much as it does in ccTLDs.
>
> If I understood correctly, this is a bad thing, and this issue of .бг is
> just the tip of the iceberg of a really serious defect in the ICANN process
> for new TLDs.
>
> avri
>
>
>
>
> On 9 Nov 2011, at 10:06, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>
> > As I can see from the ICANN website, ICANNs Rod Beckstrom had a meeting
> with the Bulgarian president Mr. Parvanow, the day before yesterday
> (November 7). Did the Bulgarian president raise the issue of .bg and what
> was Beckstroem response?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > wolfgang
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