[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .?? (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

[Tina Dam]

Hey Adam, no worries. It is good to discuss all ideas :)

You are correct that at the registration level it is easy for the
software to see the difference between ASCII and Cyrillic characters
and thereby avoid the registration. This means that the registration
restrictions are good to have, although, as far as I know, not
required by ICANN (maybe they should be, and maybe that is what you
are saying?).

The problem lies mostly at resolution, where if a user does not know
if it is Cyrillic or Latin characters then he/she might type in the
wrong one and go somewhere wrong.

I know a lot of people will say that this is very few and limited
cases and up to the registry to defend etc. I am not sure I agree, and
at the moment the issue has resulted in a careful adoption of IDNs at
the top-level, which I think is fine.

Just because we have problems today with strings being confusingly
similar does not mean we should expand upon that issue.

I am all up for trying to find solutions, and note that this is what
ICANN is trying to do to some extent in the variant groups, and
possible also the ccNSO in their policy development for the
"long-term" IDN ccTLD process.

Tina

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> Tina, hi.
>
> Have to admit to a very weak understanding of IDN, character sets, codes,
> etc.  And as you noticed I didn't think particularly hard about my note
> before sending, if I had I wouldn't have mentioned third level :-)
>
>
>> Hi Adam, for illustration purposes, can you tell me if the attached is
>> ASCII (Latin characters) or if they are from another alphabet?
>
>
> I can't tell the difference.
>
> I'm guessing (a technically ignorant guess) that for a Bulgarian IDN ccTLD,
> registrars should be able to recognize if the string someone was trying to
> register was Cyrillic or not.  So, for example, anything that contained
> ascii could automatically be rejected.  Not correct? Not eyes that
> recognize, but software.
>
> So I am guessing it would be possible to ensure no ascii string could be
> registered under IDN .BG, and if that were so then the chance of having a
> confusing string under either .BR or IDN .BG would be remote.
>
> Best,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>> And just to mention that it is not possible at all to control the
>> third level (for registries operating with second level registrations.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> 2011/11/7 Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp>:
>>>
>>>  How about we suggest no ascii should be used under an idn ccTLD. If
>>>  there's cyrillic at the second, third etc level then no one's going to
>>>  confuse that with Brazil.
>>>  Still think taking this to the Ombudsman would be worthwhile. He might
>>>  not be able to make recommendations to help BG, but could provide
>>>  advice for the new gTLD round.
>>>  Adam
>>>
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