[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

Imran Ahmed Shah ias_pk at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 5 16:49:27 EDT 2011 

My comments are as follows by IAS:

>a. discusses this issue

IAS: Issue(s)

>b. asks for a transparent review of the issue

IAS: ....transparent (and open) review .....

>c. asks for a general process by which any ICANN Staff decision on string confusability have a method for transparent review and appeal.
 
>I do not think we need to recommend a solution, but...

IAS: as they have allowed to other country, our letter should also ask to allow all subsequent applicants / appellants with the same merit or relaxation of rules.
Stability with in the same community of a Language has no problem and if there is, the proper awareness to local/national users is ensured, ICANN should not reject IDN ccTLDs.

>...we might recommend policy considerations consistent with the Affirmation of Commitments that would govern such a review and apeal.

Agreed.

Thanks

Imran

>On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:54 PKT Avri Doria wrote:>Hi,>>I think this is a good idea.  If we can create an IGC consensus letter that>>a. discusses this issue>b. asks for a transparent review of the issue>c. asks for a general process by which any ICANN Staff decision on string confusability have a method for transparent review and appeal.>>I do not think we need to recommend a solution, but we might recommend policy considerations consistent with the Affirmation of Commitments that would govern such a review and apeal.>>We might also want to copy the leadership of ALAC when the letter is sent asking for their support of such an appeal mechanism.>>avri>>On 5 Nov 2011, at 00:07, Ian Peter wrote:>>> Avri wrote:>> >>> Well there is a new Board now, with a new chair.>>> All they need to do is recognize the mistake and tell the staff to fix it.>>> Takes a little courage, but a lot of people on that Board have courage.>> >> Perhaps a carefully drafted letter from
 this Caucus would be useful in this>> regard?>> >> >> >> >>> From: Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>>>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:58:57 -0400>>> To: IGC <governance at lists.cpsr.org>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to>>> other Latin ccTLDs?>>> >>> Well there is a new Board now, with a new chair.>>> All they need to do is recognize the mistake and tell the staff to fix it.>>> Takes a little courage, but a lot of people on that Board have courage.>>> >>> avri >>> >>> On 4 Nov 2011, at 03:16, Daniel Kalchev wrote:>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03.11.11 18:31, Paul Lehto wrote:>>>>> It would seem that there either is, or should be, a process to "call the>>>>> question" as they say in parliamentary procedure.  If not, a motion can be>>>>> made for a decision, or a letter sent citing undue delay and calling for a>>>>> decision (with or without additional clarifying
 expertise appended to it). A>>>>> person familiar with whatever exists in terms of procedure can recommend the>>>>> best format or vehicle for forcing a decision.>>>>> >>>> >>>> There is no formal process to question the outcome of the IDN Fast Track>>>> applications. By definition, the only possible communication is between ICANN>>>> "staff" (whatever that means) and the original applicant. Ironically, even>>>> that country's Government does not have formal way to communicate with ICANN>>>> on the matter.>>>> >>>> Nevertheless, we are exploring every available possibility for some 18 months>>>> now, to understand why this situation continues to persist. ICANN staff are>>>> very wary of any such discussions and I perfectly understand their position.>>>> More so, that the principal that handled this case, Tina Dam, is no longer>>>> with ICANN.>>>> My understanding is that ICANN now recognizes they made a mistake. But they>>>> not only made the mistake to
 accept blindli this "expert opinion". They also>>>> made the mistake to make several statements already to the effect that "this>>>> is it, accept it or go away". Therefore, the problem at the moment is how>>>> ICANN admits their mistake and how they go out of the rising political>>>> problem.>>>> I have made many proposals on how to address this, but this has been slow>>>> process.. Nobody has given up anyway and it now seems inevitable things will>>>> go on a more global and more politicized forums.>>>> >>>> Daniel>>>> ____________________________________________________________>>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:>>>>   governance at lists.cpsr.org>>>> To be removed from the list, visit:>>>>   http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing>>>> >>>> For all other list information and functions, see:>>>>   http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance>>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:>>>>  
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