[governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

Wed Nov 2 05:11:44 EDT 2011

Thanks Daniel, this is very helpful, I will go through the link you set.

Best Regards,
Sala

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:

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> On 01.11.11 23:10, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:
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> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:
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>> I have done some presentations that demonstrate the use of different
>>> (widely available) computer fonts and the possible confusability of these
>>> two strings.
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>> This is awesome and it would be great to share some of the learnings, if
>> possible but if you have already posted it on a website, maybe you can
>> direct me to the URL or email me offline.
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> It is publicly available and searchable on Google as well. I found an
> on-line version at
> https://www.centr.org/main/6079-CTR/version/default/part/AttachmentData/data/DanielKalchev - bgidn20110202v3.pdf
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> I believe the different font renderings are informative enough. That
> presentation was produced in the beginning of the year and is pretty much
> schematic, because the target audience is deeply aware of the issues --
> there were some developments since then, but mostly in area of... talking.
> (ok, politics, I know)
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>  The official response to this is that the ISO3166 table and therefore
>> the current set of ccTLD names is inherited by ICANN, but they are
>> committed to avoid confusability in future. Therefore, Cyrillic and Greek
>> are declared "second grade" alphabets and any hint on possible
>> confusability is taken as a show stopper.
>>
>>  No language or aphabet is second grade.Article 19 of the Universal
> Declaration of Human Rights gives people the right to freedom of
> expression. There is also the Convention on the Protection and Promotion of
> the Diversity of Cultural Expressions 2005 and another Convention for the
> Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage.
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> While this is true, one needs to remember what ICANN was like when the IDN
> Fast Track came into effect (end of 2009). An US based company was hired to
> provide the 'language expertise' for the IDN Fast Track and unfortunately,
> their work is covered in secrecy. I can understand that the combined desire
> to avoid any possible 'confusion' (and ICANN be blamed for making the
> Internet less 'stable') and the probably too US (therefore ASCII) centric
> knowledge of the experts led to this situation. Thing is, they by default
> assume any two letter Cyrillic or Greek strings is "confusingly similar" to
> any two character ASCII string -- which is ridiculous.. at least.
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>
>   Funny, that the IDN Fast Track process talk about the need to
>> demonstrate probable confusion, not merely possible confusion
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> This is interesting, to find what the difference between probable and
> possible is and which is the lower threshold?
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> In my understanding of English, "possible" means it can be demonstrated
> that it is (however rare) subject to confusability, in some (even if
> carefully crafted and controlled) situations. "Probably", should require
> further qualification of the frequency this is happening. For example, you
> take an sample of 1000 persons. For 5 of those persons .бг and .bg are
> confusable -- this is "possible" but in no way "probable". If, for 200-400
> it is confusable, it is then perhaps "probable". If you have say 500-700
> confused, I would call it "very probable". Sort of that.
>
> Thing is, you can demonstrate that almost any two strings are confusable,
> in a specific context and using specific fonts.
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> None of this data is available for the evaluation of the Bulgarian
> application however.
>
> Daniel
>

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