AW: [governance] Cyber Security 2011

Tue Nov 1 11:11:28 EDT 2011

HI

This is waht the British Foreign Minister has said (according to the Guardian)

"Foreign Secretary William Hague said at the opening of the London Conference on Cyberspace that there currently are no forums where all parties can sit down and discuss key topics, including cyber crime, international security and how to achieve safe and reliable internet access."

Wolfgang: Did he ever heard about the IGF?

And he continued:

"In the place of today's cyber free-for-all, we need rules of the road," he said. "Britain has proposed a set of seven principles as a basis for more effective co-operation between states, businesses and organisations."

The seven principles include the need for governments to act in cyber space in accordance with international law, the need for universal internet access, the right to privacy, the protection of intellectual property and the need to tackle cyber crime.

Also included were "the promotion of a competitive environment which ensures a fair return on investment in networks, services and content", and "ensuring cyber space remains open to innovation and the free flow of ideas".

Wolfgang: Did he every read the Council of Europe or OECD principles (where the UK is a member state!!!). 
It feeds the discussion that top down policy processes are probably less effective than bottom up. 

Anyhow, another clip for the ongoing debate about legitimacy, accountability, representivness and global policy development.

Wolfgang  
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Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Andrea Glorioso
Gesendet: Di 01.11.2011 15:59
An: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Betreff: Re: [governance] Cyber Security 2011

Hi Wolfgang,

I am not sure the question was directed at me, but to be clear: I have no idea. This conference is organized by the UK Foreign Office and you should ask them for further details. 

Best,

Andrea

On Tuesday, November 1, 2011, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> Hi
>
> if this is another "flying circus", will it be linked to the IGF? Or will it get an organisational structure? A "steering committee" or a "MAG"?
>
> w
>
>
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> Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Andrea Glorioso
> Gesendet: Di 01.11.2011 15:06
> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Betreff: Re: [governance] Cyber Security 2011
>
>
> Hi Sala,
>
> It's always better to specify. :)
>
> I believe most documents are being uploaded on the conference website (see http://www.fco.gov.uk/). I must say that in my view the organizers have made real efforts to facilitate remote participation. I also don't agree that they tried to keep the conference "secret", as someone said.
>
> FYI, it looks like Hungary will host the 2012 edition of the conference and Korea (I assume South :) will do it in 2013.
>
> Best,
>
> Andrea
>
>
>> We know that you always comment from your personal position and will follow the updates unless otherwise expressed. If there are position papers published etc or press statements, we would be happy to read it, if they are public documents.
>> Best,
>> Sala
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Andrea Glorioso <andrea at digitalpolicy.it> wrote:
>>
>> For those who might be interested, I am tweeting from the London Cyber
>> Conference (@andreaglorioso, you can also follow the hashtag
>> #LondonCyber).
>>
>> For clarity, I am attending the London Cyber Conference as part of the
>> EU delegation, but the tweets express my personal position(s) only.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Deirdre Williams
>> <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> These reports were on the BBC this morning, in case they are any help.
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15516959   GCHQ chief reports 'disturbing'
>>> cyber attacks on UK
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12371056  William Hague: UK is under
>>> cyber-attack
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15355739 UK seeks 'consensus' at
>>> cyberspace conference
>>>
>>> Deirdre
>>> On 30 October 2011 09:01, Ben Wagner <b at nwagner.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To clarify the difference, there is a difference between the two events.
>>>> The first link by Avri isn't the offical conference, it's the
>>>> inter-governmental event on Nov. 1-2 CS should be concerned about.
>>>>
>>>> To provide a little more context to the event:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/26/cyber_hague_event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/20/bring_economics_into_freedom_debate/
>>>>
>>>> From everything I have heard so far this will be a very high level event
>>>> attempting to focus the debate on cyber security at the expense of most
>>>> other internet governance issues.
>>>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30 October 2011 11:21, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This event sounds very much like a trade show on security, with a major
>>>>> sponsor Endace, a New Zealand company looking for worldwide expansion.
>>>>> Somehow, advertising the event smacks of show business, one day boondoggling
>>>>> in London for £995 + VAT registration. Are the good times coming back ?
>>>>> - - -
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 13:35, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This monstrosity was pointed out to me the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cybersecuritysummit.co.uk/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as i can tell it is another conference on IG without Civil
>>>>>> society representation, though a fair amount of business - the business
>>>>> 
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