AW: [governance] E-G8 second day reporting

[Miguel Alcaine]

Dear Divina,

I fully support exploring your idea:

*"...Maybe we should declare ourselves as a federation of associations and
groups
welcoming all sorts of members, so that we send the message across that
there is a critical mass of people seriously thinking about these issues,
with a certain memory of past events and advances..."*

It is important to convey the message about the messenger of this diverse
group conformed by people and organizations genuinely interested in,
thinking on and working on IG issues.

Best,

Miguel

Disclaimer
My ideas are those of my own and does not represent any position of my
employer or any other institution

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Divina MEIGS <divina.meigs at orange.fr>wrote:

> That's what I mean indeed. It seems we never had a "convening power" with
> business, and I don't think the  international chamber of commerce is
> enough
> representation for that community, in spite of its loyal presence to IGF...
>
> We have to think of other ways of engaging with big business, and it might
> be via small businesses (arguably part of civil society in UN listings). We
> should identify their representatives in WIPO and other arenas and make an
> effort to drag them out, person per person...
>
> We do have to ask ourselves what we want to do as CS caucus. I was hard put
> the last two days claiming any legitimacy for our constituency, which is
> normal but debilitating. Maybe we should turn ourselves into an association
> or ngo of some kind to be able to attend such fora and to make declarations
> on the same standing as isoc or quadrature du net... We have to be more
> incisive and more aggressive even inside the CSTD and ECOSOC world because
> of course we shouldn't allow just the G8 dictate the agenda, even if comes
> from countries that purport to be democratic ...
>
> Maybe we should declare ourselves as a federation of associations and
> groups
> welcoming all sorts of members, so that we send the message across that
> there is a critical mass of people seriously thinking about these issues,
> with a certain memory of past events and advances (so as not to start from
> scratch like yesterday where i had the feeling i had to explain
> "governance"
> and "multistakeholderism" to these top CEOs). Critical mass is what gets
> attention of governements and businesses alike, because it is attached to
> amount of votes and of sales... We have to start appearing as the global
> public opinion on these issues, even if we know we are still rather
> sphericules of opinion, but one has to start. Our colleagues in the Arab
> spring countries could teach us quite a few lessons, in that way.
>
> Best
> Divina
> ps: don't get me wrong: i don't think we did badly this time around in
> Paris, and the media coverage is rather favorable to us, but it clearly was
> too much improvised ...
>
>
> Le 26/05/11 13:47, « Roland Perry » <roland at internetpolicyagency.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > In message <CA03EF21.2134A%divina.meigs at orange.fr>, at 11:50:57 on Thu,
> > 26 May 2011, Divina MEIGS <divina.meigs at orange.fr> writes
> >> It could be an interesting outcome to have a major endorsement by the G8
> >> states of a concerted strategy around the critical ressources of the
> >> internet
> >
> > The post-Okinawa G8 Dotforce meeting I went to (in UK) was all about
> > Development Issues (access, primarily).
> >
> >> it would have to be truly multistakeholder or it would totally
> >> unacceptable ...
> >
> > What G8 has is "convening power", they can easily get a whole bunch of
> > multinational CEOs to the table. The same is true of the World Economic
> > Forum.
> >
> > For whatever reason, the IGF is still has some way to go in this regard
> > - although it got off to a reasonable start in Athens, the last couple
> > of years I've seen a trend for the main sessions to rely on speakers who
> > were "there anyway" (for workshops perhaps), rather than because they
> > wanted to make a special trip to appear.
>
>
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