[governance] IGF plus IGC + only members list.

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

And if we could beleive PS/ITC would be supportive of Civil Society and our positions that might not be so bad.  But since there seems to be a mood in PS/ITC to coalesce with Governments and not with Civil Society, that is not good for civil society.  For example at eG8, PS/ITC got their seats at the table, ergo time to throw CS under the bus.

a.

On 22 May 2011, at 09:29, Katitza Rodriguez wrote:

> Hi Imran,
> 
> The issue here is not lack of transparency. Here is lack of information. We do not know a priori which will be the arguments of other stakeholders prior to the meeting while they do know most of all our concerns. All the best, Katitza
> 
> On 5/22/11 2:17 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah wrote:
>> Dear Izumi,
>> I agree with you, however I could not understand that which type of strategies is being referred by Katiza which is hidden between members or coordinators.
>> 
>> Openness&  transparency may not allow us to have any hidden agenda.
>> 
>> If we are asked to provide IGC Members list, its easy. If we are asked to indicate IGC+MAG members, I would suggest to indicate those IGC members who become MAG members after joining IGC, similarly those MAG members who also joined IGC.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Imran Ahmed Shah
>> 
>> On Sun, 22 May 2011 13:18 PKT Izumi AIZU wrote:
>> 
>>> As one of the co-coordinators, I would like to respond briefly to the request
>>> or suggestion Katitza made about the need for creating a new, CS-only list.
>>> 
>>> As already indicated here, there are pros and cons for this.
>>> If there is enough support to go for voting, then, yes, it will be the
>>> coordinators responsibility to open for such voting.
>>> 
>>> I like to see how many are explicitly in favor of creating this new list and
>>> how many are not so, but before doing so, please express your reactions
>>> first on the current list.
>>> 
>>> izumi
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I also would like to call attention to the fact that this list is open to
>>>> other stakeholders including public authorities, government officials,
>>>> technical community, and business sector representatives. Therefore, members
>>>> need to understand that MAG members have a very difficult task to share
>>>> strategies in a public list. Any public strategy that we can share here, can
>>>> always harm our collective efforts in spaces where disclosing your strategy
>>>> in advance is a big problem and can harm our work.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to ask the coordinators to create a list for IGC-only members
>>>> that is close to their members. In that way, civil society MAG members will
>>>> be able to provide a better report after the meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best, Katitza
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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