[governance] open standard for "facebook crowd" interactions

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Mon May 16 14:06:47 EDT 2011


I am finding that I have problems with Linkedin sending invites to
people on my contact list without my initiating it and also taking all
of my contacts in my email space.  I find this disturbing and an
invasion of my privacy.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
>> > Suppose someone invested a lot of effort into building something
>> > which meets similar communication needs as FB, but with better
>> > privacy properties. Network effects would likely cause this new
>> > thing to be very unattractive to potential early adopters because
>> > "everyone is on Facebook" unless sufficiently rich APIs are
>> > available to effectively integrate the users of facebook.com
>> > with the users of the new site into a single social network.
>> >
>> > Even if we assume that suitable APIs for doing this exist *now*,
>> > in the absence of any effective governance mechanism
>>
>> Can you specify what governance mechanism you would like to see?
>
> It'd have to be one which
> - does not get in the way of innovation
> - allows, when innovation has happened and it has resulted in a large
>  global user community with strong network effects, the creation of
>  open standards that empower competing sites/services/software-vendors
>  to effectively allow their users to become part of the same community
> - provides mechanisms that allow forcing companies with globally
>  significant market share to fully implement these standards
> - provides mechanisms for updating these standards as appropriate
> - doesn't get undermined by patent issues
>
>> > that takes
>> > adequately into account also stakeholder interests which may
>> > conflict with those of Facebook Inc. and the perceived interest
>> > of the U.S. government, the company is not in any way obligated
>> > to play along -- and the risk that they possibly wouldn't is
>> > probably enough to prevent anyone from making the above-mentioned
>> > investment.
>>
>> But new social network pop up nearly everyday.
>>
>> Both FB and Google are building entire ecosystems.  Both are built on
>> showing you adverts.  But both thrive by building tools so that others
>> can play with those tools and build new stuff.
>>
>> How would you like to regulate these ecosystems?
>
> I don't know. I'm right now at the stage of "it might be good to
> start by recognizing that a problem exists, and to discuss it in
> order to understand better what the problem consists of exactly,
> how big it is, etc."
>
> Greetings,
> Norbert
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