[governance] Internet G8 meeting

[Marie GEORGES]

Hi 
Just for information: 

Here enclosed the Declaration of the G7 of 1995 (sorry,in French,  that is the only version I finally found after weeks. The FIRST G7 on Internet society,( but ministerial),   that the European commission was mandated to organized in Brussels: Yes more inclusive...and  time of the adoption of the Directive on Data privacy....  

In France President Sarkosy 's vision for the G8 is Growth (by/for big northern enterprises) and "civilizing internet", meaning for many other persons "internet to be colonized" !!!!!  Is that why  it does not include   "civil society "  (terms he says he does not like) and why it is not a G20, ???? for the time beeing, ...

Marie
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Le 3 mai 2011 à 13:03, Lee W McKnight a écrit :

> Parminder,
> 
> If I recall correctly G7 meetings as far back as...95? 93? 97 at latest...had similar themes, albeit with phraseology then around the more inclusive 'information society.' 
> 
> OK in my recollection there was a broader less commercial agenda back then than the 2011 version, back in the day, with cs folks more likely prominent on the agenda.
> 
> But point is high level showcase schmooze-athons have been going on at or near this level for quite some time, related to Internet.
> 
> If one for whatever reason gets close to being part of agenda - it is a big pain and probably not worth cost to any cs org. In my experience from walking away from getting sucked into such things in past.
> 
> Except for largest/wealthiest cs orgs, it is very hard to play at this level.
> 
> Maybe, instead of worrying about sales pitches from corporates at G7, you could...work the system towards a more cs-friendly G-20 showcase? 
> 
> (I suspect you may know people who people who...could make it so.) Frankly if global cs were to play, it would more likely be worth our bother to aim for a 2012 G20 meeting.
> 
> Though Paris in spring is always pleasant. But G20 is where the markets and - policy action - is these days anyways.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Roland Perry [roland at internetpolicyagency.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:51 AM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] Internet G8 meeting
> 
> In message <4DBFA6B4.7090503 at itforchange.net>, at 12:24:44 on Tue, 3 May
> 2011, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> writes
> 
>> We wrote to the UN asking for more spaces for civil society for the Dec
>> consultations on enhanced cooperation. What about this G8 Internet
>> meeting?
> 
> The G8's nothing to do with the UN, nor is there an assumption that
> rules of multistakeholderism can be imposed from one to the other.
> Indeed, many would regard it as a positive feature that organisations
> can have their own working methods independent from the UN.
> 
>> This kind of thing was unthinkable a few years back.
> 
> It's very appropriate that such a G8 meeting emerges now, because a
> previous G8 cybersecurity initiative[1], which got up to speed with a
> meeting in Paris in May 2000 and concluded with a meeting in Tokyo on
> May 2001, was very soon stalled[2] when law enforcement's resources were
> diverted away from the Internet and towards terrorism after 9/11.
> 
> But the ground rules were written all that time ago, and not much has
> changed since.
> 
> http://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/i_crime/high_tec/conf0105-3.html
> 
> [1] Full title: "Government/Industry Dialogue on Safety and Confidence
>                   in Cyberspace"
> 
> [2] One of the few identifiable results of the work was the EU's Data
>      Retention Directive.
> --
> Roland Perry
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