AW: [governance] E-G8 second day reporting

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Wed Jun 8 10:38:47 EDT 2011


Having seen a video of Kroes' speech at the EuroDIG, it is evident that the EC is no longer interested in multistakeholderism in Internet governance. 

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> From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On
> Behalf Of Divina MEIGS
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:51 AM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> Subject: Re: AW: [governance] E-G8 second day reporting
> 
> 
> Dear Wolfgang
> 
> The IGF was not mentioned even once during the e-G8... So combining them
> in the future might be something to bring up for preparations of next e-
> G8, if any
> 
> It could be an interesting outcome to have a major endorsement by the G8
> states of a concerted strategy around the critical ressources of the
> internet, especially if expanded at the G20 level, which is unlikely.
> But it would have to be truly multistakeholder or it would totally
> unacceptable ...
> 
> My two cents
> divina
> 
> Le 26/05/11 10:26, « Kleinwächter, Wolfgang »
> <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de> a écrit :
> 
> > Thanks again Divina for the detailed and very useful reporting.
> >
> > Just one point: If the eG8 will take place annually this will push the
> > IGF in a competetive situation. Is there an option to combine them in
> the future?
> > Interesting point.
> >
> > I remember that as a result of the G 7 meeting in Okinawa in 2000 the
> > "G7 DotForce" was established as an outcome (and triggered the
> > establishment of the UN ICT Task Force which was much broader then the
> > G7 DotForce. A couple of years later DotForce became integrated inti
> the UNICTTF. :-))).
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Divina MEIGS
> > Gesendet: Do 26.05.2011 10:17
> > An: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Betreff: Re: [governance] E-G8 second day reporting
> >
> >
> > Dear all
> > I forgot to add that i was able to make a final intervention at 7pm,
> > emphasizing the fact that civil society deplored the absence of human
> > rights principles in the recommendations that they were ready to carry
> > to Deauville (besides enlightening them on the meaning of
> "governance")...
> > divina
> >
> >
> > Le 26/05/11 10:02, « divina meigs » <divina.meigs at orange.fr> a écrit :
> >
> >
> >
> > e-G8 day two
> > Day two was more broken up than day one, so I'll go quickly through
> > the various sessions, to concentrate on the summary of recommendations
> > that took place in the end (You can follow the details on line).
> > Please note that the whole thing was a relatively futile exercise,
> > given the fact that most of the
> > G8 documents are readied months in advance. However, there will be a
> > delegation of 5 members from the e-G8 who are supposed to bring back
> > the results/recommendations to the heads of states in Deauville. The
> > delegation is composed of Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Eric Schmidt
> > (Google), Maurice Lévy (Publicis), Yuri Milner (Digital Sky
> > Technologies), Stéphane Richard (Orange) and Hiroshi Mikitani
> > (Rakuten)-a very representative selection of powerful male
> billionaires.
> >
> >
> > 1-conversation with Neelie Kroes (European Digital Agenda
> > Commissioner) some issues require rules, that can be applied by
> > governments when the private sector doesn't act. These rules should be
> > global. The G8 should take them seriously, make decisions and review
> > them.  It is an urgent decision
> >
> > 2- plenary 5 : fostering innovation
> > Good presentation of the stakes by Lessig, but the rest of the
> > discussion less interesting and no solutions offered.  Lack of small
> > companies made it difficult to hear voice of incumbents
> >
> > 3- plenary 6 : digital transformation (of traditional business) no
> > doubt among the participants that welfare packages and worker
> > protection are gone and not worth defending. Public policy will have
> > to adapt to such "painful" social perspectives and move towards jobs
> > for young people based on mobility and no protection. Big companies
> > are important because they influence small businesses that are part of
> > their supply chain (75% of growth on internet is brought by old
> > business). E-learning is a new mode for self-training and
> > self-organizing. Public service obligations are an obsolete form of
> > regulation and public service corporations should take the "public
> > service test" ... micro-segmentation is the way to go: "serve the
> segment to one"; "businesses have to become democracies too"
> >
> > 4- workshop 1 (theme 3): electronic liberty (workshop in presence of
> > Nadine Wahab, Egyptian activist) interesting comments on Google's role
> > in Egypt (meant to keep internet open for business, not to help the
> > revolution). Importance of freedom of expression announced as key for
> > business. Social media as part of toolbox for electoral campaigns. For
> > Nadine Wahab, the organization of civil society came first, the social
> > networks came second in the Egyptian movement. People will always
> > choose pacific solutions and peace to terrorism. Transparency as best
> > tool for fighting censorship (Perry Barlow from the floor). Democratic
> > countries have to avoid double-standards. Role of companies (twitter)
> > : defend the user's rights to defend himself. G8 should make internet
> > access a human right
> >
> > 5-wokshop 2 (theme 2): Disinter media (the press): only in the
> > presence of top newspapers with specialized content to sell. Rather
> > happy about themselves, though they made the initial mistake of
> > offering their content online for free. Backtracking on this by having
> > single cost of content, with multiple outlets. Repurposing of stories
> > for a global audience.  "content defines us, not the means of
> > distribuiton" Sulzberger NYT)
> >
> > 6-workshop 3 (theme 3): Data dilemma (privacy):
> > several definitions of privacy, but consensus on the users' right to
> > control information about themselves. Confrontation of EU and US
> > models: the European one not enough enforced and therefore not
> > respected, the US one enforced by FTC and respected...
> >
> > 7-Closing conversation with Mark Zuckerberg: social design will be
> > leading aspect of internet future (example of gaming), being "grounded
> > on reality"; doesn't believe in network effects; the Arab revolution
> > is "not a Facebook thing, it is an internet thing" and what is
> necessary is organized people.
> >
> > 8-Closing plenary: there were several bullet points that recapped each
> > plenary and workshop (to be found online). Among the dominant ones:
> >            *private sector is faster than governments
> >            *job creation is done by small corporations
> >            *governments should provide access but not regulate content
> > and focus on job creation
> >
> > **"governance needs to link business, civil society and government"
> > WAS SCRATCHED  AS NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT MEANS !! AND I HAD TO
> > INTERVENE LATER TO ASK FOR IT TO BE MAINTAINED, IN A SPIRIT OF
> > MULTISTAKEHOLDERISM THAT CHARACTERIZES INTERNET GOVERNANCE ISSUES IN
> > ALL THE OTHER FORA OF THE PLANET...
> >
> >            *expression is not synonymous with property (might be
> > scratched in the end)
> >            *"governments must help manage social dislocations that
> > will make the workplace more flexible but also more precarious" (might
> be scratched)
> >            *G8 should discuss harmonisation of rules between countries
> > for enterntainment (IP rights)
> >            *mobile smart phones are dominated by 2 or 3 gatekeepers
> > and this should require "strong antitrust oversight"
> >            *publishing governement data on line is a great start but
> > is badly done.
> >            *eliminate software patents (definitely on the way of being
> > scratched) -came out of "disrupters workshop"
> >            *privacy legislation may restrict free speech. It needs
> > care
> >
> > additional recommendations by  the panel:
> >            -big companies are good role models
> >            -rapid response in case of breakdowns
> >            -promote investment not regulation
> >            -rules of society should apply to internet
> >            -enable students with digital skills
> >            -more organized participation from NGOs
> >
> > General feeling: some issues like security, IP rights are emerging but
> > nobody seems to have a solution; nothing about cloud computing;
> > nothing about risks in case of breakdown; nothing about public goods
> > and open source or open data... general consensus for e-G8 to be made
> > permanent (one voice saying every over year)
> >
> >                                    Divina Frau-Meigs, Paris   May 25th
> >
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