[governance] Re: The Internet (as we know it) can never be "private"

[Miguel Alcaine]

Dear All,

>From the development point of view, the question is what can we do? and what
are the best ways? to improve interconnection costs at the local, national,
regional and international levels.

In this case, it is convenient to follow the levels in the suggested order:
First actions at the local, then national, etc. We need to overcome the
barriers to cheaper interconnection costs. One way of doing so, is promoting
IXP at the local, national and regional levels. The order is also important
to have more meaningful discussions at the next level.

Here, I am also very interested in the experience in Bulgaria. How ISPs
finally understood the convenience of IXPs ? Could Daniel help us in finding
out more information about it?

Another usual missing part of the equation is the promotion of content.
Infrastructure and content need to evolve hand in hand. Any good experiences
from anybody to share on this?

Best,

Miguel

Disclaimer
My ideas are those of my own and does not represent any position of my
employer or any other institution

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Roland Perry <
roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:

> In message <CAJwbTiDVW=Lykno0K=a-**SBhaiOXgzADHiZ9ns68BLtdhpQs94w**
> @mail.gmail.com <a-SBhaiOXgzADHiZ9ns68BLtdhpQs94w at mail.gmail.com>>, at
> 19:56:05 on Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
> salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@**gmail.com<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>>
> writes
>
>
>  The problem arises when we try to raise the issues that developing
>> countries face, we get shot down and accused of wanting a free lunch.
>>
>
> There's a misunderstanding here. It's the people demanding a "half circuit"
> model who want the free lunch.
>
>
>  I work for a Telco in Fiji and know that even with implementing IXPs,
>> there will still be high transit costs as globally we still do not have a
>> level playing field.
>>
>
> My question would be: why should there be a level playing field? (I'm being
> a devils advocate here).
>
> There's not a level playing field globally for health-care or air
> transport. Once you have a hospital, or an airline (or Internet
> connectivity) then by all means be very vigilant not to discriminate between
> one user and another.
>
> In my country I can get a free bus to a free hospital. Will you pay my
> airfare to come and be treated free of charge in one of your hospitals?
>
> No, I wouldn't expect that. Even if (and this is important) you were a
> developed country.
>
> There's a danger that the Internet is over-globalised in people's minds.
> Just because we can all send emails to one another on a level playing field,
> doesn't mean every aspect of it can be levelled as easily.
>
> I get a feeling that you don't think I'm on your side. Nothing could be
> further from the truth. The only reason I've entered this small debate here
> is to try to assist in the understanding of what's a realistic route to
> improving the situation that you and others like you are experiencing.
>
> --
> Roland Perry
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