[governance] New membership database: choose your own username (fwd)
Avri Doria
avri at acm.org
Wed Jan 5 17:34:44 EST 2011
hi,
by staying on the list and voting the next year.
a.
On 5 Jan 2011, at 17:29, Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:
> how does one rejoin, then?
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:11:46
> From: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Avri <avri at acm.org>
> Subject: Re: [governance] New membership database: choose your own username
>
> Hi Avri,
>
> What you suggest is probably the most convenient way to determine
> membership. However, it does mean that if you miss voting you are no longer
> a member. If everyone is happy with that, a lot of problems are solved.
>
>
>
>> From: Avri <avri at acm.org>
>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Avri <avri at acm.org>
>> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:53:44 -0500
>> To: IGC <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] New membership database: choose your own username
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just for a point of confirmation, I had always assume that membership had to
>> be confirmed annually by voting. Kind of like paying due annually to be a
>> members of other some other membership groups.
>>
>> the charter is explicit on this:
>>
>>> The membership requirements for amending the charter are based on the most
>>> currently available voters list. In amending the charter, everyone who voted
>>> in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter.
>>
>>
>> That is part of the reason for why elections should have a non of the above
>> category, so someone can take the act of voting without needing to actually
>> pick someone. But this is not included in the charter and maybe it should be,
>> though introducing it as a practice would not be contrary to anything i the
>> charter. I personally think all elections should have a 'non of the above'
>> category.
>>
>> In any case, I think including people as members who did not vote in the last
>> election is a change that is not substantiated by the charter.
>>
>>
>> a.
>>
>> On 5 Jan 2011, at 16:20, Ian Peter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Shaila raises some of the more interesting questions around membership and
>>> the most interesting of all if how anyone ceases to be a member. Quite an
>>> important question, because charter amendments require a positive vote of two
>>> thirds of ³members². - not just two thirds of participants in the vote.
>>> Members certainly should include people who were members but didn¹t vote in
>>> last elections, as Shaila points out. But members could then be construed to
>>> include people who havent participated for years, because there is no way to
>>> cease being a member even if you die currently.
>>>
>>> These sorts of problems cant be solved technologically. Nor can the
>>> administrative issues which surround a list which serves a dual purpose of an
>>> open mailing list to discuss internet governance issues and also a forum for
>>> decision making by the subset of mailing list members who would define
>>> themselves as IGC members.
>>>
>>> So it¹s not easy. However, I personally think that the series of technology
>>> changes Jeremy had led over the last year or so have been great enhancements
>>> which have made us more efficient. Its great to be able to vote on accepting
>>> a position statement without flooding the mailing list with a hundred or so
>>> YES messages and its good to have surveys, wikis and other tools to help us
>>> develop positions and discuss them. So, on the whole, I think the changes
>>> which have been introduced have been well worthwhile, and it is great to have
>>> a co ordinator such as Jeremy with the requisite technical skills to advance
>>> our use of on line tools. None of our recent co ordinators have had these
>>> skills, so Jeremy is making a great contriubution.
>>>
>>> This has been improved and enhanced by the input of others on this list the
>>> recent changes did need some tweaking, and may need more to meet all needs.
>>>
>>> But the concept is good IMHO, even if unable to solve all our problems.
>>>
>>> Ian Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> From: shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:27:55 -0800 (PST)
>>> To: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
>>> Cc: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [governance] New membership database: choose your own username
>>>
>>> Hi Jeremy
>>> I have been a member of IGF for many years now, I have attended several IGF s
>>> and have been part of WSIS since its inception. However for the last two
>>> years I have not received the ballot to vote, in a timely manner. I did get
>>> the ballot last time after a little scramble but am uncertain if it was
>>> included.
>>>
>>> I too am a little concerned about the intent and direction of the changes.
>>> Having said this my concerns with the new format and criteria are as follows
>>> ? How do we recognize members like myself who have been long standing
>>> members. So if my vote was not included in the last elections, am I
>>> "reassigned" ? how do I have this corrected so I receive the ballot for the
>>> next election.
>>> ? Then there are others who also may be long standing members,but simply opt
>>> out of voting...does that diminish their status as members?
>>> ? Then there are serious but non participating members who are observers who
>>> also should be counted as member .
>>> ? Then there are the true" lurkers' whilst most of us would like to open up
>>> participation to all individuals who have genuine concern for our work, I
>>> admit that there is sometimes an uneasy feeling of wondering who is just
>>> lurking with a purpose of some " ill doing" .
>>> So these categories of members raises some questions on what to put in place
>>> ? Should we have some broad eligibility criteria ?
>>> ? Should we have some sort of periodical scribe - un-scribe process ?
>>> ? Should we establish some " organizational' elements ?
>>> ? Should we have members discussion forum...blog pages or something ?
>>> I personally have followed most discussions with great interest and have
>>> found them to be very informative and thought provoking. Just havent always
>>> been able to squeeze in my two cents worth. I would like to be more active in
>>> this coming year and participate more as needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards to everyone and Happy New year to all !
>>>
>>>
>>> Shaila Rao Mistry
>>> President
>>> Jayco Interface Technology
>>> Jayco MMI
>>> Input Technology With A Human Touch
>>>
>>> Vice President Public Policy
>>> National Association On Women Buisness Owners
>>>
>>> Next Generation Convenor
>>> International Federation on University Women
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>> Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 3:01:01 AM
>>> Subject: [governance] New membership database: choose your own username
>>>
>>> This is long, but important, so please read it.
>>>
>>> Before the next poll or election is called, anyone who wishes to participate
>>> will have to have an account in the new database that I have created to
>>> record IGC membership. All those who voted in the last election will also be
>>> entered into this database.
>>>
>>> We are doing this because, until now, there has been no proper IGC membership
>>> list, other than the list of subscribers to the governance mailing list
>>> (which contains many non-member lurkers, duplicate subscriptions and some
>>> defunct accounts).
>>>
>>> The advantages of a maintaining a centralised database is that we can use a
>>> single list of members (and potential members) for purposes including:
>>>
>>> ? mailing list subscription
>>> ? editing content on the IGC Web site
>>> ? determining eligibility to vote for coordination elections and charter
>>> amendments
>>>
>>> Also, we will finally be able to associate names and (optionally)
>>> organisations with email addresses. Our inability to do this in the past has
>>> been a problem for the coordinators.
>>>
>>> I will be entering existing members into this database shortly, but I am
>>> first giving everyone the opportunity to create their own database entry so
>>> that they can choose their own username. If you don't choose your own
>>> username, you will end up with a username like "john.doe". The username
>>> won't be used on the mailing list, but will be associated with any content
>>> you may create on our Web site, and possibly for other purposes in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> To create your own entry in the IGC membership database please visit this new
>>> page of our Web site:
>>>
>>> http://www.igcaucus.org/user/register
>>>
>>> When registering, please use the same email address with which you are
>>> subscribed to the governance list. This is important because it will enable
>>> me to flag you as an official IGC member (ie. one who voted in the last
>>> coordinator elections), if indeed you are one. (If not, please register
>>> anyway - especially if you intend to vote at the next coordinator elections.)
>>>
>>> Visiting the page above is also the way, from now on, to subscribe to or
>>> unsubscribe from the governance mailing list. (Unfortunately due to software
>>> limitations, your password for the mailing list Web site won't be
>>> automatically set to the one you choose when creating your database entry -
>>> you'll need to set it again when logging in there, or use any password you
>>> may have had there before.)
>>>
>>> Existing subscribers to the governance mailing list who have not voted in the
>>> list election will not automatically be added to the database. So, if you
>>> did not vote but are nonetheless an active participant, you should register
>>> yourself using the link above. If you don't, your mailing list subscription
>>> won't be touched, but you won't have access to participate in polls or to add
>>> content to our Web site.
>>>
>>> Thanks, and please let me know if you have any questions. You have one month
>>> from now to create your own database entry if you wish, before I will create
>>> entries for all the missing members.
>>>
>>> PS. Since this email is long enough already, I'll be writing separately about
>>> some of the other "phase 2" improvements to our Web site.
>>> --
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