[governance] FW: [] Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Milestone & Comcast Starts DOCSIS IPv6 Trial

[Lee W McKnight]

OK Avri, 

I should have said IPv4 open allocations are history.

As some may recall we/IGP/Milton suggested market methods for allocation vs grey or black markets, but funnily enough those with IPv4 addresses to spare...seem to prefer artificial scarcity. 

Or to be charitable maybe they prefer to nudge world belatedly to IPv6...only a couple decades after it -might - have been seen as a worthwhile innovation. 

Personally, I will bet on a world of Internet thingies with IPv6 addresses, since that's already here/coming at us fast.

But as to how fast gold standard IPv4 is laid to rest...well if only I live that long.

Lee

PS: Avri, I know someone who knows someone...maybe we can make you a special IPv4 offer since you like it so much - get'em while they're hot ; )
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From: governance-request at lists.cpsr.org [governance-request at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria [avri at acm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:33 PM
To: IGC
Subject: Re: [governance] FW: [] Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Milestone & Comcast Starts DOCSIS IPv6 Trial

Hi,

Unless of course the powers that be decide to allow a open market for aIPv4 addresses instead of forcing people to use a grey or black market.

I find this forced ending of IPv4 to get a protocol that could not succeed on its own to be used, a sad phenomenon.  I participated in the IETF all the way from its selection, through the many scare tactics and failures up until this campaign and I still see this as a sad story.

I think the purveyors of IPv6 may eventually succeed at getting us all to use it (though I still would not bet on it), but the history of IPv6 to date, beginning to end, is just pathtetic.

a.

On 2 Feb 2011, at 16:39, Lee W McKnight wrote:

> As McTim reported already:
>
> IPv4 is history...
>
> Lee
> ________________________________________
> From: Dave Farber [dave at farber.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:06 AM
> To: ip
> Subject: [IP] Fwd: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Milestone & Comcast Starts DOCSIS IPv6 Trial
>
> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood at cable.comcast.com<mailto:Jason_Livingood at cable.comcast.com>>
> Date: February 1, 2011 9:43:53 AM EST
> To: Dave Farber <dave at farber.net<mailto:dave at farber.net>>
> Subject: IPv4 Address Exhaustion Milestone & Comcast Starts DOCSIS IPv6 Trial
>
> Dave – For IP if you wish.
>
> A major milestone in the draw down of IPv4 addresses has occurred. APNIC's recent allocations mean that the final five address block now go to each RIR, one to each.
> See:
> <http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9207498/Address_allocation_kicks_off_IPv4_endgame>http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9207498/Address_allocation_kicks_off_IPv4_endgame
> <http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/world-ipv4-stocks-finally-run-out-19674>http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/world-ipv4-stocks-finally-run-out-19674
>
> Also, yesterday we at Comcast announced that we've started native dual stack production trials on our DOCSIS network (native IPv4 and IPv6), the first DOCSIS network in North America to do so. The trial will soon expand beyond Colorado and each user receives a /64 allocation of roughly 18 quintillion IPv6 addresses. (A bit of an improvement over one IPv4 address I dare say!)
>
> See <http://blog.comcast.com/2011/01/comcast-activates-first-users-with-ipv6-native-dual-stack-over-docsis.html> http://blog.comcast.com/2011/01/comcast-activates-first-users-with-ipv6-native-dual-stack-over-docsis.html
>
> Regards
> Jason Livingood
>
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