AW: [governance] [] Announcement by USG Mr. Sha Zukang on the MAG
"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de
Fri Dec 23 11:09:55 EST 2011
Thanks Avri
two points:
1. I fully support Avris approach. Very balanced, very constructive. Very wise.
2. We should raise the funding issue for CS very strongly. We will raise this issue also in the next meeting of the CSTD IGF Improvement WG in early January in Geneva. There has to be a mechanism in place which allows selected members of CS to participate in the meeting. It is unacceptable, that individuals, representing civil society has to pay three times for participants in groups like the MAG: They pay the governmental reps via their taxes, they pay for the private sector members by buying their products and then they have to pay for thesmelves (and very often no mones is left over for the third payment).
Best wishes and enjoy your holidays.
wolfgang
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Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Avri Doria
Gesendet: Fr 23.12.2011 16:42
An: IGC
Betreff: Re: [governance] [] Announcement by USG Mr. Sha Zukang on the MAG
Hi,
First let me say that I don't have any idea what is actually going to happen since it has been almost a year since I last worked for the IGF secretariat. My comments are based on past experience, and as they say past results are no guarantee of future performance - it is very difficult to predict DESA behavior now that Markus' guiding hand is missing from the mix.
If this year's process is anything like previous year's, DESA will be provided with a greater number of names than there are places on the MAG. From these lists of nominees, they will attempt to create a MAG that is distributed in terms of diversity on aspects stakeholder group, gender, nationality, types of experience, etc... Also remembering that MAG members participate as individuals, they often belong to several of the categories, both CS and Academic, both Internet Community and Private Sector, all of Internet Community, Private Sector and Government advisor, and other multiple hat combinations.
I recommend that our Nomcom, which I believe we constituted several months ago in anticipation of this day, should attempt to submit a list of names of people who represent the diversity of Civil society participants. If some are also Academics or Internet Community, I think that is a good thing, since they can be placed under several categories and increase the diversity of the MAG while providing as much Civil Society orientation as possible. I do not think we should limit our list to 10 names, though I do think it advisable to have a slate of 10 names that is a diverse as our Nomcom can make it with a strong list of alternate selections. I also do not think we should worry about what other groups such as Giganet etc might contribute to the mix of nominees on their own. And if some names end up on multiple lists, all the better.
I also don't think it is all that critical for us to pay attention to the numbers in each of the categories at this point, what is most important is that we make sure we have a set of nominees who we think will do the work in such a way as to include the interests of Civil Society as expressed on this list and in other Civil Society venues and who we can trust to act as intermediaries who will not become a MAG-elite or only serve their organization of origin, but who will keep the IGC intimately involved in the process.. We have had some very fine MAG members in the past, and we have had some less fine members in the past and even had some absentee members. In terms of keeping current MAG members, I think the Nomcom needs to review their levels of activity and the degree to which they kept the IGC informed. I also do not think they should renew anyone who already served 3 consecutive years or more. I think that any of those who wish to continue should make a positive statement to that effect and should tell us what they have contributed, what they intend to contribute and why they want to continue in the role.
I look forward to hearing from the Chair of the IGC's IGF Nomcom that was set up in readiness for the process on how they intend to run the process. Hopefully they already have a set of criteria read for publication so that this process can be completed in the required 5 weeks interval.
Finally, I think we need to start working on the search for funding as there will, if things are as they were in the past, only be limited support funding and this will be limited to MAG members from Least Developed Countries and not take into account the pecuniary status of all almost all CS volunteers, no matter where they come from.
avri
On 21 Dec 2011, at 16:13, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> It seems from the list now that the academic and technical community
> is separate from Civil Society and thus networks like GIGANET and
> ISOC, IETF, and other regional bodies can nominate names.
>
> Secondly, a point to note here is that IGC is not the only CS
> stakeholder and there will be other CS groups that can add their
> nominations to the process.
>
> The number of the MAG is not being increased but there is now more
> space for broader inclusion.
>
> --
> Regards.
> --------------------------
> Fouad Bajwa
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>> And I guess the further question is how we address the academic part of the
>> "academic and technical community" representation. Certainly in the past we
>> have nominated academic representatives and we have many academics involved
>> here.
>>
>> Interesting that the letter nominates firm membership quotas for the first
>> time. Is that new?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:42:21 +1100
>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
>> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [igf_members] Announcement by USG Mr. Sha
>> Zukang on the MAG
>>
>> I'm trying to understand the implications of this for our Nomcom which looks
>> like having a busy time to get names in by January 31.
>>
>> We should forward 10 names (or perhaps more?)
>>
>> No more than 4 should be current members who we are nominating to stay on -
>> or if we nominate more than 4 of the current members to stay on, we should
>> expand our pool beyond 10 by that number to allow for a choice of 10, no
>> more than 4 of whom are current members?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
>> <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:31:08 +1200
>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: [igf_members] Announcement by USG Mr. Sha
>> Zukang on the MAG
>>
>> Thanks Avri for sending the notice.
>>
>> Sala
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Chengetai Masango <CMASANGO at unog.ch>
>> Subject: [igf_members] Announcement by USG Mr. Sha Zukang on the MAG
>> Date: 21 December 2011 13:37:10 EST
>> To: igf Forum <igf_members at intgovforum.org>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find below an announcement by Under-Secretary-General Mr. Sha Zukang
>> on the MAG.
>>
>> The information has been posted on the IGF Website and I kindly ask that you
>> also disseminate the information amongst your respective stakeholder groups.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Chengetai
>>
>> Announcement
>>
>>
>> The Internet Governance Forum's Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) has
>> been instrumental in planning the programme of the annual meetings of the
>> IGF.
>>
>> We would like to express our gratitude to all members of MAG, who have
>> donated their time, effort and valuable guidance in ensuring the smooth
>> running of the IGF.
>>
>> In light of the established principles and practices of MAG on the rotation
>> and selection of its members, the United Nations Department of Economic and
>> Social Affairs (DESA), therefore, requests all stakeholder groups
>> -government, private sector, civil society, and technical and academic
>> communities- to submit names of candidates from developed and developing
>> countries, as well as from economies in transition, to be considered to
>> become part of MAG to contribute to the multistakeholder process
>> bringing the perspectives on Internet governance from their respective
>> group for a period of one year. It is recommended that group nominees be
>> members who have actively participated in IGF meetings and activities in the
>> past.
>>
>> Owing to the fact that the renewal process was not done in 2011, it is
>> suggested that two thirds of each group's membership be renewed in 2012
>> along the guidelines provided in the table below. Please note that groups
>> can resubmit names of current MAG members' for re-election.
>>
>> Groups Current Status Number to Renew Number to Stay
>> Government 25 16 9
>> Private Sector 10 6 4
>> Civil Society 10 6 4
>> Academic and Technical Communities 10 6 4
>> Total Number of Members 55 34 21
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be appreciated if respective groups could submit the names of the
>> potential candidates to the IGF Secretariat by 31 January 2012 via
>> email: magrenewal2011 at intgovforum.org using the attached submission
>> template.
>> It should be noted that plans are underway to have the next Open
>> Consultation and MAG Meeting take place on 14 - 16 February 2011. In the
>> event that the renewed MAG is not on board by then, the current MAG will
>> convene at this time and the renewed MAG will convene in May.
>>
>> Accordingly to the established principles and practices,
>> (i) Members of MAG are selected to achieve balance among all stakeholder
>> groups, representing all regions and attaining gender equality;
>>
>> (ii) All MAG members serve in their personal capacity, but are expected to
>> have extensive linkages with their respective stakeholder groups;
>>
>> (iii) The main task of MAG is to provide advice on the programme and main
>> themes of the next meeting of the Internet Governance Forum;
>>
>> (iv) MAG members are expected to attend two to three MAG meetings in Geneva,
>> Switzerland, in addition to the annual IGF meeting, as well as to
>> participate actively in the preparatory process throughout the year through
>> continuous engagement in the online multilateral dialogue among MAG members
>> in between such meetings.
>>
>> (v) MAG meetings are open to Intergovernmental organizations to participate.
>>
>> Thank you and I look forward to the continuous success of the Internet
>> Governance Forum.
>>
>> (Signed)
>> Sha
>> Zukang
>>
>> Under-Secretary-General
>> Department of Economic and Social Affairs (UNDESA)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Submission Template:
>>
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>> First name: Other names:
>> Job Title(s)
>> Organization(s):
>> City of Residence: Country of Residence:
>> Nationality: Stakeholder Group:
>> Contact Email: Contact Phone:
>> Brief relevant biography of not more than 300 words )
>> Name put forward by: Representing:
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>>
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