[governance] A shame for the EC

[michael gurstein]

To my mind it may not be a moral thing... (moral lapses with appropriate
repentance can be "forgiven" at least by some...

Kroes seems to suggest that the reason that she "hired" zu Guttenberg was at
least in part because of his intelligence and savvyness, at least about the
Internet... The fact that he (or whoever ghosted it for him?) didn't seem to
anticipate that someone would run the thesis through something like
http://www.Turnitin.com to my mind indicates a significant lack of both.

I can assure you that the folks that I used to catch doing plagiarism for
their senior essays were generally not the best and the brightest. (The
one's I couldn't catch or rather couldn't prove because they were more
careful at covering their tracks (or paid their ghosts more) were generally
smarter/savvyer...

And I agree with Jovan/Deirdre about a new paradigm about
"plagiarism"/remixing etc.... Open book exams with Internet access rather
than invigilation BUT Ph.D.'s are meant to be "original" contributions to
knowledge (that is the point of them...

M

-----Original Message-----
From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf
Of Norbert Bollow
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:31 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Deirdre Williams
Subject: Re: [governance] A shame for the EC


Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:

> But now I wonder again - in changing times is plagiarism not as wicked 
> as it used to be?

IMO it is possible to justifiably argue this in some contexts, but certainly
not in the context of a Ph.D. thesis, which is the context of the particular
scandal that was mentioned.

Greetings,
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