[governance] What next with the IGF Improvement?

Miguel Alcaine miguel.alcaine at gmail.com
Tue Apr 5 17:51:22 EDT 2011


Personally I agree with Milton,

Miguel

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> Parminder:
>
> I have scanned the Indian proposal and it seems (surprisingly to me) like a
> very good one. The issue of “outcomes,” which I analyzed at length in my
> book, is one that separates IGF “hawks” and “doves” from the beginning. If
> you look at the original proposal for the structure of IGF that we made at
> IGP, or Jeremy Malcolm’s book, there has always been support within civil
> society “hawks” for a stronger institutional development of IGF based on
> bottom up working groups and some kind of recommendations. Accordingly,
> there has always been a potential alliance between civil society hawks and
> developing country hawks, as long as the IGF is institutionalized along a
> non-intergovernmental, multistakeholder lines.
>
>
>
> I think what our friends in US business circles, ISOC and the technical
> community need to understand is that by preventing the IGF from making real
> (nonbinding) statements or recommendations  they are crippling it, and
> driving the more open and democratic developing countries into an alliance
> with the more authoritarian developing countries.
>
>
>
> --MM
>
>
>
> *From:* governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] *On
> Behalf Of *parminder
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:28 PM
> *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] What next with the IGF Improvement?
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> I will take the following para from Wolfgang's email to present what I
> think happened at the meeting of the WG on IGF improvements.
>
> "I am not sure whether this was by intention. If I create an unworkable environment which does not allow the production of anything which is meaningful than nobody should be surprised that exactly this is happening. Such a "planned failure" can be used as a good argument to change the whole direction and to discredite the innovative forms of multistakeholder collaboration. It is easy now for governments, which were not members in the group, to argue: "Look, multistakeholderism does not work. We - as governments - are different and have other working methods. So let us alone when we try to translate our (national) agendas into an international dialogue." "
>
> Excuse me to respectfully disagree with what is sought to be constructed
> here. It is a predictable script with predictable villains - of course,
> those developing countries, who else. A UN meeting on any IG issue perhaps
> need not even happen for this 'result' and 'analysis' of it to be produced
> :) . I keep hoping however that we would open our minds to look beyond this
> predictable response that we seem to remain stuck in.
>
> Why did the WG meeting break down? Were there countries already predisposed
> to the failure of the WG? It may be interesting to note that developing
> countries had been seeking early and greater number of meetings of the WG
> since late last December, a request that was not heeded. Why would they want
> more meetings if they always wanted this WG to fail as it finally did?
>
> Then when Montreux happened, and there was not much that came out if it,
> some very interesting things happened in the last hour or so of that
> meeting. Brazil, India, Egypt and some other developing countries wanted a
> multistakeholder drafting group to work between the two meetings to come up
> with a draft with which the second meeting could start. Everyone knew that
> was the only way to produce a report within the 2 days of the WG meeting
> that were left when the group reassembled. A multi-stakeholder drafting
> group was proposed with about the same ratio as the overall WG - 5 gov
> members and 5 non gov members. However, on civil society's prompting some
> developing countries (lead here by Brazil) proposed that civil society can
> have 3 members instead of the originally proposed one becuase they represent
> greater diversity of views, with one member of business, one of tech
> comminuty etc. Business and tech community, and then some major devloping
> countries, said a clear no to this proposal to expanded civil society
> membership of the proposed drafting group.
>
> Very soon thereafter, business said 'no' to the very proposal of a drafting
> group, they wanted the secretariat to prepare a draft. Tech community and
> major developed countries also seemed to be supporting this position
> (without their support it wont have carried). Here I will stop and pose this
> question to ourselves, as civil society, because this question is also
> important in terms of the most central substantive issue concerning IGF
> improvements that become the key point on which disagreement could not be
> closed out, whereby the WG failed to prepare any recs.
>
> Do we as civil society prefer representative/ multi-stakeholder working
> group based processes to produce key substantive documents in the IG space,
> or do we prefer secretariat based processes for such an activity?
>
> (If we can form a clear response to this poser, we will know where we are
> vis a vis 'the key' contestation at the WG meeting regarding substantive
> improvement to. the IGF. So lets be try and be clear and specific on this. I
> think the question is clear and direct enough.)
>
> In fact, when the drafting group proposal was shot down at the end of the
> first meeting of the WG in Montreux, the Brazilian rep made an incisive
> comment, pointing to the paradox how when he and some other (developing)
> government reps are proposing a multi-stakeholder drafting group, some major
> non-government stakeholders were opposing it. No one responded, of course.
> Do 'WE', as IGC, have an answer to this paradox.
>
> Since we are on a connected point, let me hurry to what were the real
> differences on which the WG process broke down (though I still think with
> some deft managing we could still have come out with something substantial,
> but on that later.)
>
> There were three key issues of disagreement - IGF outcomes,  MAG selection
> (especially of non-gov stakeholders), and IGF funding. Among these, the
> make-or-break issue was 'IGF outcomes'. If this issue could have been agreed
> upon we would have got a very good report, and that would really have been a
> substantial step forward for the IGF, and for global IG. Without looking
> throughly at what happened around this central issue we cannot get the right
> picture of the WG proceedings.
>
> Here, the only real proposal on the table was India's proposal ( enclosed )
> made during the Montreux meeting itself. This proposal was not acceptable to
> developed countries. This, in my view, was the real issue because of which
> the WG process broke down. So before we start assessing what really happened
> and who is at fault, let us, each of us, and if possible, collectively, form
> an opinion if this proposal is fine by us, and the right way to go ahead. If
> it is the right way to go ahead, then whoever did not accept it needs to be
> blamed for WG failure, not those who proposed it, and those who supported
> it.
>
> There was no clear counter proposal (to India's) for IGF outcomes on the
> table. though the term 'messages' was thrown around a few times. I
> specifically asked the proposers of 'messages' from the IGF as the way to
> get outcomes to clearly put out the envisaged process of producing what is
> being called as 'messages', and also to explain how this process would be
> different from the Chairman's summary, and a shorter bulletted Chairman's
> summary, already being prepared at present. I never got a clear reply, which
> if it was put on table would have constituted a specific outcomes related
> proposal.
>
> Let me try to focus further on what was the real point of difference across
> the table. IGF already produces long and short summary of plenary
> proceedings. So the essential difference between India's proposal and the
> present practice (or the 'messages' proposal) is about who does the 'summing
> up' and how. Back to the question that arose regarding drafting the report
> of the WG on IGF improvements - are we more comfortable with secretariats
> doing such stuff, or do we, we the evangelists of multistakeholderism in
> policy shaping/ making, support multi stakeholder working groups doing it.
> That is the core point we must decide. And depending on which way we decide
> it we can then know which side of the main contestation at the WG we are on.
> And then perhaps, if we really must, we can choose our villains. And if we
> indeed are inclined to suspect a 'planned failure' to use Wolfgang's term,
> then see whose planning it could be. Though I suspect that with some more
> real hard work we could have got some good results from the WG.
>
> It is for me a cardinal moment for IG, for civil society advocate on IG and
> for multistakeholderism. We must decide and make up our mind. Can a
> multistakeholder group cull out enough focused and well directed stuff on
> policy inputs - areas of convergence, and divergences, but with relatively
> clear alternative policy options as done by WGIG - from an IGF process that
> is to be specifically designed to help it do so. This process starts from
> choosing clear and specific policy questions for IGF's consideration,
> forming WGs around each chosen issue, developing background material around
> each, WG then helps plan the process at the IGF through right format,
> speakers etc, help prepare appropriate feeder workshops, then arrange round
> tables on the chosen issue at the IGF before it goes to the plenary, and
> then the denouement, the multi stakeholder group brings out a document which
> could be 2 pages or 10 on key areas of convergence, divergence etc, with
> 'relatively' clear policy paths and options. Things may be difficult
> initially, but it is my understanding, and I would like to hear other views,
> that this is the only real way to go for multi-stakeholder influence on
> policy making. And the steps I have described here were essentially the gist
> of India's proposal.
>
> Is this proposal more multistakeholder friendly, or can those who opposed
> it could be considered multistakeholder friendly. So, Wolfgang when your
> email, again somewhat predictably, comes to that part on 'friendly
> governments', I would like to really know what you mean by this term in the
> context of the happenings at the WG on IGF.
>
> I simply cannot understand how many of us even in IGC seem to be more
> comfortable with secretariats rather accountable and representative
> multistakeholder working groups writing key documents which have clear
> political import. Can we not see that even if we seem to be at the moment
> happy with some specific personnel who constitute the secretariat at a
> particular time, this situation could easily reverse. Would we then change
> our view on whether secretariat should do such stuff or alternatively, a
> multistakeholder WG. To make what I am saying more clear, just consider what
> if the key secretariat personnel were not put there by a particular country
> whose political positions we generally agreed with but by another country
> (which could happen any time) whose political opinions we were much against.
> This is purely hypothetical, put putting real countries and real people in
> this imagined situation will greatly help make clear what I am driving at.
>
> I will discuss in a separate email tomorrow the two other main issues that
> were contested that I have mentioned above (MAG composition and IGF
> funding). Also will refer to some other issues mentioned in Annriette's and
> Marilia's reports. However, it is the IGF outcomes issue which was the real
> thing around which everything revolved, and which was to determine if
> anything substantial could come out of the WG's meeting. Our judgments about
> what happened at the WG, in my view, must most of all be informed by this
> issue.
>
> Parminder
>
>
> On Saturday 26 March 2011 01:51 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
>  I am not surprised about the outcome. It was crystal clear after the Montreux meeting, that it will be impossible to reach a reasonable result within the given time frame. The whole planning and executing of the launch and the work of this UNCSTD WG raises a lot of question.
>
>
>
> I am not sure whether this was by intention. If I create an unworkable environment which does not allow the production of anything which is meaningful than nobody should be surprised that exactly this is happening. Such a "planned failure" can be used as a good argument to change the whole direction and to discredite the innovative forms of multistakeholder collaboration. It is easy now for governments, which were not members in the group, to argue: "Look, multistakeholderism does not work. We - as governments - are different and have other working methods. So let us alone when we try to translate our (national) agendas into an international dialogue."
>
>
>
> A second scenario could be, that this is another step in what Bill Clinton said in San Francisco when he defined "Internet Governance" as a process of "stumbling forward". In this case a lot will depend upon the Nairobi IGF. If Nairobi takes on board a number of reasonable proposals which has been made by various members of the UNCSTD IGF Working Group and if Nairobi becomes  an "outstanding success", this will make life much more difficult for the governmental negotiators in the 2nd Committee of the UNGA to change the direction.
>
>
>
> What are the options now for civil society?
>
>  Option 1: General frustration. We leave it as it is, lamenting about the failure of the process and watch what the governments will do.
>
>  Option 2: Working together with friendly governments who have a voice in the CSTD, to work towards an extension of the mandate of the existing group until May 2012 with the aim, to produce a more serious analytical interim paper with recommendations until September 2011 (the draft could be discussed in Nairobi) for presentation to the 2nd Committee of the UNGA, which starts in early October 2011.
>
>
>
> Option 3: IGC takes the lead and starts a open drafting procedure for an alternative report, inviting other non-govenrmental stakeholders and friendly governments to join the process. The report could be presented via a friendly government to the UNCSTD meeting in May 2011 in Geneva. On the eve of the UNCSTD meeting in Geneva we could have a half day open multistakeholder workshop under the title "The Future of the IGF: How to improve multistakeholder collaboration".
>
>  Best wishes
>
>  wolfgang
>
>
>
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