[governance] Criterion for charter voting

[Avri Doria]

hi,

I know there is a stream of new subscribers, and occasionally a new voice.

i think we should have more outreach and i think it would be great if someone organized it.

maybe when you come back from your adventure.

cheers

a.


On 29 Sep 2010, at 18:58, Michael Gurstein wrote:

> 
> I think what I mean is obvious especially since I've been saying more or
> less the same thing for years... Yes, I think that there should be a
> deliberate plan/program of engagement with the broader civil society and
> particularly those elements of civil society who are active around ICTs,
> social justice and the Internet globally--and there are multitudes.  The
> folks active in the HR caucus for example seem to have managed to do
> something of this reasonably successfully at least as I have been observing
> them from a distance.
> 
> Personally, I go in and out of direct involvements which would be of
> interest to or interested in IG issues depending on a variety of personal
> and other circumstances... At the moment I could certainly engage with
> sympathetic folks in Canada and and to a lesser extent in various other
> parts of the world where I happen to be working/doing research etc. but the
> problem is that to my mind we (IGC) have allowed ourselves to accept a way
> too narrow definition of what IG means, rather narrower I would say than
> even the IGF as a whole is now coming to accept and certainly narrower than
> would be of interest to many of those who would (and should) be our allies
> and compadres.
> 
> Every year about this time I write the same thing and every year folks move
> on around "the bad relay point/me" but from what I can see (and again from a
> distance) not having the means or the passion to get myself to Vilnius, the
> IGC is, if anything, dwindling as older folks drift away and not a lot of
> younger folks are recruited and certainly no great tranches of broader civil
> society are engaged with.
> 
> But I'm off on a bit of a personal adventure for the next while and will
> have only limited time to engage in a debate on these issues if any should
> result from these rather gnarly remarks.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:04 PM
> To: IGC
> Subject: Re: [governance] Criterion for charter voting
> 
> 
> 
> and why do you mean by this?
> 
> is there some activity you think the group should be engaged in, that it is
> not?  
> have you been doing outreach bringing in new people?
> 
> a.
> 
> On 29 Sep 2010, at 16:25, Michael Gurstein wrote:
> 
>> I don't mean to be curmudgeonly but I really would have preferred to 
>> see some of the energy and creativity that is going into ensuring the
> probity of the electoral system of this several handfuls of people most of
> whom know each other by sight over almost a decade, into broadening and
> deepening the group so that it has some broader legitimacy (and not just
> legalistically) as a voice for civil society in these most significant
> areas.
>> 
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