[governance] Tips about the election process

[Mawaki Chango]

Well, Adam, I was about to reply the same, and it's morning here... alright,
noon, so let's see:

Tijani, if that was the case, then maybe you were not as early for voting,
compared to others, as you thought you were. I could see the exact total
number of votes already recorded, the exact number for each option and
candidate, and their respective percentages. Now let's agree that the
question is no longer what was shown (those who saw what they saw know what
they saw - how about that for a noon philosophical thought? - kidding.)

The question before us is what do we do with the ongoing voting or the
outcome, given all the pending issues: stats/vote breakdown shown during
voting, no sufficient charter amendment discussion, and flawed charter
amendment procedure?

Mawaki

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> Apologies if my reply was a little abrupt/rude (brusque?).  Late, I
> should sleep :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> > The statistics showed the number of votes for each candidate. And
> > that's the concern.
> >
> > There are two coordinators and three candidates. If I saw my first
> > choice way out in front,  I might switch my single vote to my second
> > choice, etc.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Tijani BEN JEMAA
> > <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn> wrote:
> >> I was one of the first voters, and I can tell u that neither the stat at
> the
> >> end of the survey, nor the link Jeremy gave show the full voting result.
> >> They only give the total number of voters.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't know why Jeremy doesn't explain what was shown.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
> >> Envoyé : mercredi 29 septembre 2010 15:06
> >> À : governance at lists.cpsr.org
> >> Objet : Re: [governance] Tips about the election process
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, Jean, I have had my ears pulled by several people already on
> >>
> >> this... Had no idea the first voters could see everything.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --c.a.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/29/2010 10:36 AM, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> Carlos, Jeremy changed the stats after several people said he should.
> >>
> >>> You accessed the stats _after_ Jeremy changed them.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> jeanette
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> On 29.09.2010 13:13, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Uh-oh, OK, when I voted it did not. Then no need to change now, right?
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> --c.a.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> On 09/29/2010 08:57 AM, David Souter wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Yes, I did. It did, at the time I visited, give a breakdown of the
> >>
> >>>>> number
> >>
> >>>>> of votes cast for each candidate up to that point in time.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> DS
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> Message sent by:
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> David Souter
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>>>> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
> >>
> >>>>> Sent: 29 September 2010 12:52
> >>
> >>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Shahzad Ahmad
> >>
> >>>>> Cc: Jeanette Hofmann; Jeremy Malcolm
> >>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [governance] Tips about the election process
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> Did anyone who are agreeing with Jean actually visit the stats page?
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> --c.a.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> On 09/29/2010 04:46 AM, Shahzad Ahmad wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> Agreed with Jeanette. The statistics should not be made available
> >>
> >>>>>> before
> >>
> >>>>>> completion of the process
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>> On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Jeanette Hofmann<jeanette at wzb.eu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>> Hi Jeremy,
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>> I don't think the statistics for the election of the coordinator
> >>
> >>>>>>> should be made publicly available before the completion of the
> >>
> >>>>>>> election. It may affect the way people vote.
> >>
> >>>>>>> jeanette
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>> On 29.09.2010 06:59, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>> Please don't answer YES to "Have you already voted in this
> election?"
> >>
> >>>>>>>> if, in fact, you haven't done so. Answering YES will prevent you
> from
> >>
> >>>>>>>> being allowed to vote. A couple of people have already been caught
> by
> >>
> >>>>>>>> this (after verification of their error I deleted their original
> >>
> >>>>>>>> responses so they could try again).
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> Another issue is that although you are presented with a link to
> the
> >>
> >>>>>>>> current statistics of the poll in progress after you complete your
> >>
> >>>>>>>> answers, there is no convenient way to get back to those
> statistics
> >>
> >>>>>>>> after you close your browser window. So to address this, here is a
> >>
> >>>>>>>> permanent link to the statistics:
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://igf-online.net/limesurvey/statistics_user.php?action=statistics&sid=7
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> 4518
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <
> http://igf-online.net/limesurvey/statistics_user.php?action=statistics&sid=
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>>>> 74518>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> *Jeremy Malcolm
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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