[governance] Criterion for charter voting (Adam's proposal)

Tijani BEN JEMAA tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn
Wed Sep 29 12:57:04 EDT 2010 

Thank you Ginger,

 

Jeremy is working hard for those successive elections and try to find the
best solutions.

If there is a big issue for the charter modification, 2 solutions were
proposed: find an automatic way to sort out the voters that didn’t vote for
the last election, or organize a new voting process for the charter
modification. 

 

I do think that we need to be positive and to thank Jeremy for his efforts. 

 

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De : Ginger Paque [mailto:gpaque at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mercredi 29 septembre 2010 16:56
À : governance at lists.cpsr.org; Adam Peake
Objet : Re: [governance] Criterion for charter voting (Adam's proposal)

 

Could this be done smoothly? OR if there is consensus, can we agree to
validate only the co-coordinator election vote at this time, and then hold
the charter vote after that process is complete?


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On 9/29/2010 6:54 AM, Adam Peake wrote: 

Perhaps it will be possible to split the voters by the qualifications
Parminder mentions? 

That is, after the vote is complete, anyone who did not vote in the last
election has their vote on the charter amendment voided.  And their vote on
the coordinator positions would remain.  That would leave the correct voter
pool, right? 

Jeremy could a process like this be completed automatically? 

Adam 



At 4:43 PM +0530 9/29/10, parminder wrote: 



Dear All 

This is to draw your attention to an important matter. 

The voting eligibility for charter amendment and for any other voting,
including for electing a coordinator is very different. While for the
latter, anyone who has been on the list for two months and affirms
membership through declaring commitment to the charter can vote, for a
charter amendment only those who have voted for the last election/ voting
can vote. This special condition has been put for voting on any charter
amendment to avoid capture, since charter amendment is quite a serious
matter, since through any such amendment the very nature of and procedures
adopted by the caucus can be changed. 

When I read that voting for charter amendment and for electing a new
coordinator will take place at the same time, I brought the above issue to
the attention of the co-coordinator in-charge of the voting/election,
Jeremy, and requested that since there are different voting eligibility
conditions for the two proposed voting, holding them together will cause
confusion and should therefore be avoided. I preferred that charter
amendment be held separately before the coordinator election, with the voter
list consisting of all those who had voted for the last election, as is
expressly required by the charter. 

Jeremy replied that he is going to overcome this problem simply by having a
single process whereby the coordinator voting immediately precedes the
charter amendment vote, and it will 'technically' be ensured that only those
who vote for coordinator election will be able to vote for the charter
amendment, which in his view would meet the special voting eligibility
requirement for a charter amendment vote. 

I responded that though technically it may meet the requirement, which too I
doubt, it does not observe the intent of the charter in spirit, since the
special condition of more strict eligibility conditions for voting for
charter amendment has been put there with a clear purpose of avoiding
capture. It is for this reason that the charter seeks to put some clear time
and space between the participation of anyone in a vote for charter
amendment and her/ his affirmation of IGC membership through participation
in an earlier election, when, presumably, he/ she would have no idea of a
possible participation in a charter amendment vote. 

 The present process, whereby any voting can be held immediately preceding,
but as a part of the same process of,  a charter amendment vote almost looks
like writing a plan on how to subvert the charter requirement of more
stringent voting criteria for charter amendment. Even though the present
exercise may be well-intentioned, the fact that it opens up a dangerous
future possibility bother me a lot. 

I therefore consider the present voting process as not proper, and propose a
discussion on this issue. 

Parminder  



On Wednesday 29 September 2010 10:02 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote: 




You should just have received a personal email inviting you to cast your
vote for the next co-coordinator of the IGC.  After you confirm your
eligibility and cast your vote, you will also become eligible to vote on the
recently-discussed charter amendment. 

If you did not receive your personal invitation email, please first check
your junk email folder, and if you still do not have it, let me know. 


The draft form of the coordinator ballot and charter poll has been approved
by Ginger also, but I will take primary responsibility for any disputes that
people may wish to raise about the process adopted. 

The 2009 appeals team (Jeanette Hofmann, Adam Peake, Carlos Alfonso, Ken
Lohento and Fouad Bajwa), who have not yet been replaced for 2010, are (I
hope) also available to hear any disagreements. 

Following the informal procedure adopted in previous years (the charter is,
surprisingly, silent), the election ballot and charter poll will be open for
10 days from now, which ends on 9 September 2010, "rounded up" until
midnight that night. 

The last subscriber who is eligible to affirm IGC membership is Alan
Greenberg, who subscribed on 23 July 2010.  The first subscriber who missed
out on that opportunity is Giorgio Simeoli who subscribed on 10 August.  One
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