[governance] WSIS Forum 2011

[Michael Gurstein]

I guess I was just being a bit misty eyed about how Canada used to be before
the current bunch took over...

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca] 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:45 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
Cc: 'Jacqueline Morris'
Subject: Re: [governance] WSIS Forum 2011


For Canadians like you and me, quite easy, Michael -- but Canadian visa 
restrictions for non-Canadians from developing countries are also quite 
hard...

However, Vancouver is sensational! :)

--c.a.

On 09/06/2010 01:27 PM, Michael Gurstein wrote:
> Vancouver... (we have a lot of spare post-Olympics hotel capacity at 
> the moment ;-) M
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Jacqueline Morris [mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com]
>     *Sent:* Monday, September 06, 2010 9:20 AM
>     *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org; Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google
>     *Subject:* Re: [governance] WSIS Forum 2011
>
>     Don't they usually hold these events in UN cities? That means
>     Geneva, Nairobi, New York, Vienna, Bangkok, Santiago, Addis Ababa
>     and Beirut. Is there another one in a visa free country that is easy
>     to get to?
>     Jacqueline
>
>     2010/9/6 Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google <tracyhackshaw at gmail.com
>     <mailto:tracyhackshaw at gmail.com>>
>
>         Unfortunately, these Visa challenges extend to the Schengen area
for
>         developing countries as well. Switzerland joined the Schengen
>         Agreement in 2008.
>
>         Costs of travel from Latin America and the Caribbean to Europe
>         remain
>         prohibitive and the cheapest routes are generally through the US
>         anyway.
>
>         It might also be just a good time as any to advocate for a move of
>         WSIS to a relatively Visa free area or country.
>
>         Panama, therefore, sounds pretty good as a Venue if these things
are
>         even still being considered.
>
>         On 9/6/10, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca
>         <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
>          > Adding to Wolf's quite relevant worries, let us recall as
>         well that
>          > getting a visa to the USA continues to be a challenge for
>         citizens in
>          > all developing countries.
>          >
>          > frt rgds
>          >
>          > --c.a.
>          >
>          >
>          > On 09/06/2010 12:33 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
>          >> Dear friends
>          >>
>          >> I disagree with the argument that a move from Geneva to to
>         New York of the
>          >> WSIS Forum 2011 would improve outreach and bring WSIS
>         implementation
>          >> forward. In contrary I am afraid that a move to NewYork will
>         weaken in
>          >> particular the involvement of civil society and the academic
>         community as
>          >> important stakeholders in the WSIS process. A large number
>         of civil
>          >> society organisations, including represenations of
>         organisations from
>          >> developing countries, are based in Geneva or not far from
>         Geneva. Moving
>          >> the event to New York would create additional costs and
>         logistic problems
>          >> for them which would result in lower participation of civil
>         society
>          >> organisations. This would certainly undermine the
>         multistakeholder nature
>          >> of the WSIS implementaiton process.
>          >>
>          >> Another risk moving the WSIS Forum 2011 to New York would be
>         that the
>          >> important WSIS issues would be discussed in the shadow of
>         more important
>          >> political and security issues which dominate the day to day
>         UN acitvities
>          >> in New York. The WSIS Forum would be just "another
>         conference" and would
>          >> have difficulties to get the needed public attention.
>          >>
>          >> Finally I want to flag that in same week the European Union
>         has its annual
>          >> Future of the Internet Week meetings under the Hungarian
>         Presidency in
>          >> Budapest.
>          >>
>          >>
>          >> Regards
>          >>
>          >> Wolfgang Kleinwächter
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