[governance] consultations on enhanced cooperation
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Wed Oct 13 16:48:11 EDT 2010
And perhaps accompanied by a joint statement not to attend or participate
under these terms?
From: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:05:10 +1000
To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, William Drake
<william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
Subject: Re: [governance] consultations on enhanced cooperation
Agree with all the comments we should seek a joint icc/igc/isoc response if
possible
From: William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
Reply-To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, William Drake
<william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:11:27 +0200
To: Governance <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
Subject: Re: [governance] consultations on enhanced cooperation
Hi
I agree with Ginger, a boycott would raise few eyebrows and have little to
no impact. Disengagement doesn't count for much when they're barely
thinking about us in the first place. If anything, it could be taken as
evidence we don't care, or are too weak to even raise a voice. In a similar
vein, in Vilnius I had some IO secretariat people tell me that the lack of
response to ITU's online "consultation" a couple years ago concerning
possible CS participation therein showed we were disinterested and pretty
much irrelevant, hence no opening of ITU was needed.
While coordination could be hard for various reasons, IGC might consider
trying to work with the ICC and ISOC on this. We've made common cause in
the past (mostly in WSIS) on process issues concerning the treatment of
non-state actors etc, and any joint effort would probably resonate much more
loudly than CS complaining solo.
Best,
Bill
On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Ginger Paque wrote:
> In Venezuela it was very obvious that boycotting an election, or a process,
> leaves your 'opponent' with a 'legal' dictatorship. We cannot willingly give
> up our voice.
>
> In our recent poll, the most important issue for the IGC members was
> precisely 'enhanced cooperation', as I reinforced in my opening statement at
> the Vilnius IGF. We must raise our voice with a strong statement.
>
> We must also look for agreement/support/enhanced cooperation with other
> non-governmental groups--academia, CS, business, etc. so that those who agree
> make separate and united statements.
>
> This is a pivotal point imho. We must act decisively and in true 'enhanced
> cooperation'. We must work in a way that fosters cooperation, with a strong,
> reinforced--not inundated, valid position.
>
> We need concrete steps to move forward. How are other groups: APC, and others
> working with this issue?
>
> Best, gp
>
>
>
> On 10/13/2010 6:33 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>
>> Agree that this is a farce.
>> Do we refuse to comment at all and take it to the public sphere, or inundate
>> them with written comments criticizing the approach?
>> --MM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:08 AM
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Subject: [governance] consultations on enhanced cooperation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Find as enclosed an open letter to all stakeholders to participate in what
>> is supposed to be an open consultation on 'enhanced cooperation' in NY on
>> 14th December.
>>
>> However, the process is hardly open. It does not seem to be even as open as
>> many traditional UN activities are. Both the Tunis Agenda, and the CSTD/
>> ECOSOC resolution (quoted in the letter) speaks of 'enhanced cooperation'
>> itself as involving ' a balanced participation of all stakeholders '.
>>
>> It should be obvious that a consultation on 'enhanced cooperation', EC,
>> (which is different from the process of enhanced cooperation ) should be even
>> more open and participative that even EC itself. In fact it should be more or
>> less, within limits of logistics constraints, completely open, though
>> probably also structured enough that all governments, for instance, do get to
>> speak all they want to (that is what they normally like to ensure/protect, UN
>> style)
>>
>> However, the letter says that non -governmental stakeholders will only be
>> allowed to give written contribution, plus a very tokenistic gesture of
>> allowing just one representative (?? whose rep) to speak during the
>> consultations to summarize the contributions of all non governmental
>> stakeholders (whew!) (in maybe about 5 minutes?). So basically they are
>> calling for an inter-governmental consultation. This is not at all an open
>> consultation, and i think we should not give it legitimacy as such.
>>
>> In fact, the letter clearly speaks of a "consultation with UN member states,
>> Permanent Observers and other inter-governmental organizations to be held
>> on....."
>>
>> So, it is simply not the "open and inclusive consultations involving all
>> member states and other stakeholders....." that the recent ECOSOC resolution
>> called for, which resolution has been quoted in the letter itself.
>>
>> I think all non-governmental stakeholders should refuse to accept it as an
>> open consultation, and write to the SG/ USG immediately about it. If no
>> changes in the format are forthcoming they may all together even agree not to
>> participate in the consultations at all - not even submitting written
>> contributions, and forgoing the 'one rep speaks for all nongov stakeholders'
>> offer.
>>
>> On the other hand, if there are any genuine concerns of governments that the
>> format should allow enough speak and discussion time for gov reps, which they
>> may feel does not happen in fully open spaces, we can discuss and take them
>> on board to devise a mutually acceptable format.
>>
>> Parminder
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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