[governance] Multi-stakeholders and the outcasts' Rights

[Eric Dierker]

Right on Roland,
 
So in the current debate I have not seen any person stand up for the notion that even the least among us is entitled to Internet Rights -- as in participation.  Looking at the UN charter human rights one finds many references to a right to participate.  Why not here?
 
Again your point is well laid out here -- convicted felons usually lose at least some of their rights to participate - and that seems a model in keeping with your concerns.
 
I note with some chagrin that the great debate of stakeholder participation is once again slithering toward "publish or perish".

--- On Fri, 3/5/10, Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:


From: Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>
Subject: Re: R: [governance] If web-platforms are "criminally responsible for
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 12:30 PM


In message <968805.77319.qm at web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, at 21:16:07 on Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Eric Dierker <cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net> writes
> Roland,
>  
> We should not strive to rid our selves of people.  But of bad acts. 

I agree. There's no need to deny criminals their rightful access to resources, as long as it's not part of their criminal activity (for example, we still allow dentists to cure the toothache of bank robbers).

So when I say "rid [the Internet] of criminals", I do indeed mean "rid the Internet of their criminal acts".

> Before you ask "should victims have rights?" you should realize that all must have rights,

Different rights. The criminals have a right to dentistry, but not a right to rob people via the Internet.

Although I have heard people saying that criminals should be denied the benefits of "modern communications", as part of their punishment. And I think we do try to avoid people in jail having access to mobile phones.
-- Roland Perry
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