[governance] curious note on nairobi and brussels...

[Raul Echeberria]

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Raul


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El 06/07/2010, a las 22:53, "Ray Plzak" <plzakr at gmail.com> escribió:

> Carlos,
> 
> Well said.
> 
> Ray
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:16 AM
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] curious note on nairobi and brussels...
>> 
>> My notes aimed at just stressing the fact that certain organizations
>> and
>> agencies from developed countries made a big fuss of the risks in
>> Kenya,
>> scaring the hell out of would-be ICANN participants (as a result,
>> several did not go), and nothing is said about unsafe areas (like train
>> stations) when the event is in Europe or another "civilized" country.
>> 
>> Of course we all know every major city has similar problems regarding
>> personal safety. I recall that recently in Geneva, I woke up up at
>> 05:00
>> in the morning to catch the bus to the airport, opened the room window
>> and saw a traveller being mugged in the street by a group two blocks
>> from the train station. I went to the bus thinking about the odds the
>> same thing would happen to me. This was Geneva, not Rio or Nairobi. And
>> I do not want to take your time with another story -- the terrible
>> treatment by Belgian officials when we tried to recover our tax refund
>> in the airport.
>> 
>> Not only the treatment in Kenya was far more friendly, but my group
>> several times skipped official transportation to get in touch with the
>> the real culture of the city -- and it was real great, as I am sure it
>> will be great in Cartagena as well.
>> 
>> frt rgds
>> 
>> --c.a.
>> 
>> Roland Perry wrote:
>>> In message <BB18CD4D-A7C4-4F65-88DD-C646BEE90469 at cafonso.ca>, at
>>> 11:04:00 on Mon, 5 Jul 2010, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> writes
>>>> Another note on the treatment of participants in Brussels: buses
>> took
>>>> us from two hotels and the convention center to the "gala dinner".
>> On
>>>> return nearly midnight the bus drivers stopped in a place near the
>>>> convention center, far from the hotels... And this was it. Walk,
>> take
>>>> a taxi said the drivers
>>> 
>>> Were you in Paris - there we had to get the subway to and from the
>> Gala
>>> dinner. And with the Brussels convention centre literally across the
>>> street from the Central Station, it's hardly in the middle of
>> nowhere.
>>> 
>>> The disappointment, if any, was they way they collected (at
>> registration
>>> and dinner ticket issue) a list of hotels, then pretty much ignored
>> the
>>> results. If it had been clear from the start that shuttles were
>> to/from
>>> the venue only, people's expectations would have been set.
>>> 
>>> One of my abiding memories of the IGF at Sharm was wandering around
>>> after the sessions and socials exclaiming "Golf" "Golf", while
>> looking
>>> for the long suffering shuttle bus back to the Martim Jolie Ville
>> Golf
>>> Resort. For those who weren't there, about half the hotels seemed to
>> be
>>> called "Martim Jolie Ville <something>" and you soon got used to
>> cutting
>>> out the redundant words.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Carlos A. Afonso
>> CGI.br (www.cgi.br)
>> Nupef (www.nupef.org.br)
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