[governance] Re: Remote Participation Instructions for the MAG

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy isolatedn at gmail.com
Tue Feb 9 06:43:08 EST 2010


Hello Ginger

Oliver and I had a chat on this topic and I have had some exchanges on
twitter with Marilla.

Our concern is not to find a temporary solution to participate in the
meeting today, it is a general concern, it is about the technical resources
required for remote participation, by IGF standards

IGF is *THE* Internet forum, a place where the who is who of Internet and
all the technical expertise converges and the infrastructure available must
be uncompromising. The present standards are a generation behind, there is
no room for contention.

It is all run by volunteers, yes, but this is not a comment about people, it
is a comment about the resources to be committed, about the attention that
needs to be paid. IGF needs to consult professionals months in advance to
determine the bandwidth and infrastructure requirements, arrange to send
experts to the locations days in advance to flawlessly set up the remote
participation infrastructure.

My suggestion here is that administratively the IGF Secretariat could call
for advise from the technical community


Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
http://www.isocmadras.com


On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Bernard Sadaka <sdkaaa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Olivier,
> Please find bellow all the ways you could participate in the current IGF
> OC:
>
>    - Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and video/audio:
>    http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>    - Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and audio only:
>    http://www.igfremote.info/RP/audioonly.php
>    - Remote participation from your mobile including coveritlive, twitter
>    and no audio or video: http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/
>    - Remote participation via Webex: http://bit.ly/bvJQSY
>
> Let me know if i can help you in any other way...
> All the best,
>
> Bernard
> --
> Bernard SADAKA
> Mobile: +961 3 172377
> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
> ------------------------------------------------------
> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
> Lebanon
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hello Bernard,
>>
>> thank you, and thanks to all of the others (Patrik Fältström, for
>> example), who have tried to have some kind of remote participation set-up.
>> This is not meant as a criticism of anyone, just a provocative remark to get
>> some people to open their eyes, rather than bathing each other in
>> congratulatory, back-patting, empty speech.
>>
>> The trouble is that I've never managed to get the video/audio feed to
>> work.
>> For one, they don't work with Firefox.
>> And then it appears that there's not enough bandwidth somewhere along the
>> line...
>> I can get Webex, Skype, Marratech, Adobe Meeting, and Jabber to work
>> perfectly, even with 2-way video, and yet, remote participation at this
>> meeting = nil.
>>
>> Whatever, remote participation, for me, currently rates at 0/10. ie. non
>> existent.
>>
>> Any remote participation system should be designed for 100s of remote
>> participants, and should not fail when more than 10 people connect
>> simultaneously...
>>
>> My question: with the whole point of the IGF being multi-stakeholder
>> public participation, why is this subject not being dealt with in a
>> professional way?
>> The current arrangement is very poor. Sorry, I mean: dreadful. It makes
>> the whole IGF process a complete joke.
>> Perhaps Dr. Touré was right when he used the term "waste of time".
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> Le 08/02/2010 22:00, Bernard Sadaka a écrit :
>>
>> Thx Sivasubramanian,
>> You could also use http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>> or http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/ from a mobile phone (you won't have
>> webcast though here :) )
>> All the Best.
>> Bernard.
>> --
>> Bernard SADAKA
>> Mobile: +961 3 172377
>> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
>> Lebanon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <
>> isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Bernard sdkaaa of Lebanon has gathered this info that would make it easy
>>> to participate remotely in the meeting tomorrow:
>>>
>>>
>>> Live Blog: IGF February 2010 Open Consultations
>>> Date: Tuesday February 9, 2010
>>> Time: 09:30 CET
>>>
>>> In order to view the event, simply click here. Or alternatively,
>>> copy-paste this link in your browser:
>>>
>>> http://www.igfremote.info/RP/?altcast_code=e02867f44e
>>>
>>> No passwords necessary.
>>>
>>> Questions to sharmstocktaking at intgovforum.org
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhDhttp://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>
>>
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