[governance] WG - +5?

Bertrand de La Chapelle bdelachapelle at gmail.com
Thu Dec 16 10:05:25 EST 2010


Avri,

I have no doubt that such a parallel process would take place if the format
of the working group is not satisfactory. Properly set up in an open and
inclusive manner, it would clearly contribute to challenging the legitimacy
of the "official" one.

As a matter of fact, we should remember that the Tunis Agenda requested a
consultation of "IGF participants" to address the issue of the continuation
of the IGF. It would be ironic to have the "improvements" to the IGF decided
in a less participatory manner than the fundamental question of whether the
IGF should continue or not.

B.


On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Another suggestion I heard bandied about in the hallways of Cartagena was
> for the rest of the stakeholders, with a few of the sympathetic governments
> to consider forming an alternate process.
>
> I do not know if this idea is real or being followed up on. Whether this
> process would be just a shadow process which commented on the official
> process, or one that eventually became the primary process,  this may be
> worth considering should the non governmental stakeholders not be accorded
> full and  proper status.
>
> a.
>
> (Note: in case it is not obvious from my starting to speak freely on these
> subjects, I am no longer under contract to the UN - though i do still have a
> database deliverable I owe - and I don't really expect to be under contract
> again given Markus' departure.  I therefore again have the freedom of the
> unemployed to make statements in the open as opposed to only on the inside
> of the organization.)
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2010, at 09:34, Roland Perry wrote:
>
> > In message <AANLkTi=ms1W963-gu4H8Ne0tViLSc_+zsMD2BZvsp71R at mail.gmail.com<ms1W963-gu4H8Ne0tViLSc_%2BzsMD2BZvsp71R at mail.gmail.com>>,
> at 23:23:37 on Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Izumi AIZU <aizu at anr.org> writes
> >> I agree with Bertrand, that +5 is still far from acceptable.
> >> If governments have 20 and CS and PS have each 2 and tech community
> >> has 1, that is very much imbalanced.
> >>
> >> You cannot play football if a team has 11 and another team has only
> >> 6 players. Well, we are not playing the football per se...
> >
> > One of the options I listed on Monday was "walk away".
> >
> > Only those on the ground tomorrow can decide to do that (based on what
> they see and hear), rather than accept an x+y+z sticking plaster.
> >
> > But it's good to be having this discussion here, today, to seek the views
> of this stakeholder group.
> > --
> > Roland Perry
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