[governance] enhanced consultations - further inputs

[Jean-Louis FULLSACK]

Roland Perry wrote :

 > There are improvements to transparency which could be made, but there 
> are also funding issues. But mindful that it's a membership 
> organisation, and everyone has a government close at hand which is a 
> member, we are all quite close to the process if we want to be.

May be You too, dear Roland, should be mindful that ITU is in charge of WSIS Follow-up process, which is (a) a multistakeholder-based one, and (b) focused on society (human, sociological, relational, communicational, economical, political, etc...) issues. 

But, at the same time ITU has two kinds of members : member states and "sector members" i.e. private sector members. CS may be present as "associated members" provided that they pay a couple of thousand swiss francs fees and that they work as bit players because they don't have the rights the secteor members benefit from ! Conclusion (a) : multistakeholder partnership is completely absent in this UN agency.
Moreover, ITU is a technological agency dealing with telecoms worldwide standardization, development and -partially only- regulation. Take a look to its Constitution and Convention. Conclusion (b) : ITU doesn't have any knowledge and even any ability in society issues ! 

Unless it really opens itself to the CS which could -under certain conditions- contribute to "adapt" the ITU technological approach into an info society one. That was -and still is- the position of CSDPTT during the whole WSIS and since its very beginning. Therefore we asked the intergovernmemntal plenary to reform ITU as to be able to open itself to the CS and CSDPTT statement (presented at least three times from 2002 to 2005 ans since then regularly at the May meetings) was supported by a handful of CS orgs ... 

It'd be interesting to get the opinion of the list on this point.

Best regards

Jean-Louis Fullsack
CSDPTT



 Message du 06/12/10 09:47
> De : "Roland Perry" 
> A : governance at lists.cpsr.org
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> Objet : Re: [governance] enhanced consultations - further inputs
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> <93F4C2F3D19A03439EAC16D47C591DDE0330006EE5 at suex07-mbx-08.ad.syr.edu>, 
> at 16:58:51 on Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Lee W McKnight writes
> >First,
> >
> >Since I seem to be taking the unpopular positions of late - allow me to 
> >defend the ITU's honor : )
> ...
> > Anyway, point is in spite of ITU's interminable processes, they work 
> >reasonably well for...190 countries; and lots of users.
> 
> I wasn't intending to knock the ITU, although it's a spectator sport for 
> many. I try to "walk a mile in their shoes" before criticising anyone, 
> and in this case have attended about 20 full days of ITU meetings and 
> conferences in person, and the same again by remote participation.
> 
> >Leaving aside for now how they may be improved in a multistakeholder 
> >manner.
> 
> There are improvements to transparency which could be made, but there 
> are also funding issues. But mindful that it's a membership 
> organisation, and everyone has a government close at hand which is a 
> member, we are all quite close to the process if we want to be.
> 
> >Now back to the question at hand, can we do better than that for global 
> >democratic processes around Internet governance? Of course. See 
> >there's these Internet protocols which make it trivially easy to go 
> >from local to global...ok yeah more than that is needed but scalability 
> >is NOT the problem.
> 
> That's a bit like saying it would be easy for everyone to get into the 
> governance of air traffic control, because planes fly everywhere. But 
> that's an illusion.
> 
> >Being afraid to even broach the subject is the surest way to make sure 
> >it never happens.
> >
> >So definitely that should be a talking point for David A., however it 
> >is wordsmithed between now and 12.14, starting from Parminder's pretty 
> >reasonable draft.
> 
> If we can solve the problem of International Multistakeholder Governance 
> of the Internet (by the Internet) then we can apply it to governing 
> everything else in the world, and that could be quite some achievement.
> -- 
> Roland Perry
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