[governance] Net neutrality on mobiles

Lee W McKnight lmcknigh at syr.edu
Tue Aug 10 22:41:45 EDT 2010


Really all Google & Verizon have done is figured out how to get lots of pr for their joint lobbying campaign to Congress, to shape an 'open Internet' bill which is years away from passage.

The FCC is boxed in by the courts, and now deserted by Google which states in black and white that it wants to have no regulatory obligations to FCC whatsoever, ever, in that future bill.

And Verizon is conceding Internet access providers should do a better job disclosing their terms and conditions. 

So users are thrown 1 significant bone in greater emphasis on transparency. 

And oh yeah by releasing this joint statement Google and Verizon sucked the air out of the broader discussions between FCC and industry and other players, now abandoned by FCC.

The Verizon and Google framework proposal stands, FCC is frozen, and midterm elections are coming soon.

So we're done with telecoms/NN reform for 2010, see you again in 2011.

Those Google (and Verizon) folks are clever indeed!

Lee




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From: SAMUELS,Carlton A [carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:38 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim; Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google
Cc: parminder; Ian Peter; David Goldstein; ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net
Subject: RE: [governance] Net neutrality on mobiles

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All of it misses the point that the telcos have never really been NN
practitioners, it's just not part of who they are."

I have always wondered how could so many smart persons have missed this for so long?

Carlton

-----Original Message-----
From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 11:29 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google
Cc: parminder; Ian Peter; David Goldstein; ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net
Subject: Re: [governance] Net neutrality on mobiles

All,

Here is the "deal", a proposed policy framework.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35599242/Verizon-Google-Legislative-Framework-Proposal

It may be the same as the link Ian sent, but connectivity is dodgy this morning.

Lots of negative reaction on huffpost (a site I can reach albeit slowly):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-green/breaking-google-goes-evil_b_676021.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_671617.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-aaron/google-verizon-pact-it-ge_b_676194.html

All of it misses the point that the telcos have never really been NN
practitioners, it's just not part of who they are.

My question is "why now?" What does Google have to gain at this point
by saying " under this proposal we would not now apply most of the
wireline principles to wireless, except for the transparency
requirement".   Is this the best they could get?

@Tracy, any country can offer regulations that says "a bit is a bit is
a bit, thou shall not treat them differently".  However, since most
regulators are cozy with the telcos who have never treated bits
equally, this is unlikely to happen.  Maybe in Scandinavia tho, one
never knows!

--
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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