[governance] Net neutrality on mobiles

[David Goldstein]

Ginger,

You could start with:
- privacy - the WSJ has focussed on this this week
- the net neutrality debate that has been in the news this week and additionally 
how this impacts on Google re FT article and others such as how the US should 
lead on internet governance
- Blackberry issues
- US cyber bill re threats to energy infrastructure.

And that's just from the news I've collated in the last 3 days.

David





----- Original Message ----
From: Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; David Goldstein <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Sun, 8 August, 2010 10:07:15 PM
Subject: Re: [governance] Net neutrality on mobiles

David,
Could you please bring up the issues you think are most important for 
discussion? I would like to read views on the most important NN issues 
right now.
Thanks,
Ginger

On 8/8/2010 1:41 AM, David Goldstein wrote:
> I can only say this is a bit absurd Ian. Next you'll be going after airlines 
>for
> giving their frequent flyers benefits over non-frequent flyers. Or the 
benefits
> Telstra gives for customers who bundle their services.
>
> There are many other internet issues that I see every week that are never
> addressed in this group, and you want to focus on this trivial issue?
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ian Peter<ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; parminder<parminder at itforchange.net>;
> ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net
> Sent: Sun, 8 August, 2010 1:53:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [governance] Net neutrality on mobiles
>
> Hi Parminder,
>
> Unfortunately Australia has already jumped ship on this too. It is common
> practice for ISPs here (who have volume charging regimes) to create free
> zones of their partner sites which do not attract volume charges and/or
> traffic shaping when people exceed download limits. Nobody here seems to
> want to pick this up as an issue. To me, this is a distortion of a free
> market and an open Internet at the same time and should be attracting a lot
> more attention.
>
> The mobile world, as you mention, brings with it other distortions and
> potential distortions (eg built in apps and interfaces)
>
>
> I agree - we should discuss.
>
>
> Ian Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>    
>> From: parminder<parminder at itforchange.net>
>> Reply-To:<governance at lists.cpsr.org>, parminder<parminder at itforchange.net>
>> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:51:02 +0530
>> To:<governance at lists.cpsr.org>,<ciresearchers at vancouvercommunity.net>
>> Subject: [governance] Net neutrality on mobiles
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> The biggest mobile operator in India, Airtel, is providing Facebook free
>> of data download charges in India (apparently, only for 2 months). I
>> understand this is happening in other countries too; i read about
>> something similar in Russia.
>>
>> I consider this as an outright violation of net neutrality (NN).
>>
>> Since there are existing codes of conduct on NN in some countries like
>> Norway and Brazil, I will like to know from those who know and
>> understand these country specific arrangements well if such a thing as
>> above will be considered a NN violation under these codes.
>>
>> If indeed developing countries are to have any chance of being a part of
>> shaping and governing the future of the Internet, we should start
>> testing such cases as above with the telecom regulatory  authourities,
>> and if needed with courts and anti-trust bodies.
>>
>> Parminder
>>
>> PS: See latest developments on NN debate in the US at
>>
>> 
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/08/google-verizon-close-to-their-
>> own-net-neutrality-deal.ars
>>
>>
>> It appears that there is some move to treat wireless or mobile based
>> Internet on a different level vis a vis NN than wired Internet.
>>
>> As the largest market players - here, Verizon and Google - seek to
>> arrive at a mutually convenient  arrangement, and the only other party
>> to it is the US gov, itself representing very partisan, and largely
>> dominant, interests, as far as the global public Internet is concerned,
>> the real shape of global IG is quite evident. Where does the IGF, and
>> indeed the IGC come into this may be a question that we need to ponder
>> upon.
>>
>>
>>
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