[governance] so do i owe bill drake a pizza or not?

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Jeanette and all,

  I agree with this cautious view/analysis.  The old
saying; "no matter how things change it amazing how
they remain the same", comes to mind.  I'm skeptical
that without some form of direct accountability that
real change for the good can be realized or normalized.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu>
>Sent: Sep 30, 2009 10:57 AM
>To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
>Subject: Re: [governance] so do i owe bill drake a pizza or not?
>
>I would say the new arrangement offers a potential for change but is 
>very difficult to say at this point to what extent such changes will 
>become reality.
>
>What I really like about the document is the degree to which the Obama 
>administration acknowledges
>
>* the existence of other fora and communities ("cross-community 
>deliberations", para 7). This is very different from what we used to 
>hear, namely that we should participate in ICANN instead of criticizing 
>it from outside or elsewhere
>
>* the problems with policy development in ICANN. Buzz words such as 
>"fact-based policy development", responsive consultation procedures, 
>"thorough and reasoned explanation of decisions taken" can be 
>interpreted as an attempt to change to transform ICANN style of policy 
>development.
>
>Whether or not such a document can contribute to the badly needed change 
>is another matter. As regulation experts like to say, the more detailed 
>the rules, the easier to game them.
>
>jeanette
>
>
>
>Avri Doria wrote:
>> 
>> On 30 Sep 2009, at 11:21, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mc tim,
>>>
>>> I must have misunderstood. I thought Milton bought pizza if nothing 
>>> changed ?
>>>
>>> B.
>> 
>> 
>> And something did change.
>> 
>> Though I am not sure how much there is for Civil society to be cheer about.
>> It is like the old days of WSIS, CS will be beholden to the gov't chair 
>> for right of participation.
>> 
>> Or, in the long run, other then outward appearance, how significant the 
>> change will turn out to be for ICANN processes.
>> 
>> a.
>> 
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