[governance] so do i owe bill drake a pizza or not?

[Parminder]

i think between the lines, GAC's role has (will) become rather 
decisive... GAC chair has a big role in setting up supervisory, yet 
called review, bodies. I feel that in practice, at least by and by, 
these supervisory structures will begin to exercise more power.... I 
have still to read the original docs well..... But this looks like as a 
good a move towards internationalization that looked feasible under 
present conditions, at least as a first step...

We have structures of review/supervision, but no clear principles for it 
(for ex, what constitutes  public interest, which  is stressed a lot).  
So space  and opportunity remains  for  'evolving  globally applicable 
public policy principles'  by the 'enhanced cooperaiton' process which 
then frames the working of these review/ supervisory structures .... 
this can, and I think, should be the direction forward....

i have not read earlier ICANN papers, but I am not sure if they spoke so 
much of the multistakeholder term, I am not sure but suspect that they 
mostly stuck to 'private'... Is there more of the mutlistakeholder term 
in the present doc....

parminder

Willie Currie wrote:
> Ok, so the main shift is the establishment of four review processes 
> which will assess ICANN's performance in four areas in three year 
> cycles. The review teams will be jointly established by the ICANN 
> Chair or CEO and the Chair of the GAC. These reviews will replace the 
> role of the US DoC in reviewing ICANN's performance. One can see an 
> increased role for the GAC in oversight of ICANN here, but it is a 
> 'soft' form of oversight - the 'recommendations of the reviews will be 
> provided to the Board and posted for public comment. The Board will 
> take action within six months of receipt of the recommendations'. In 
> other words, there is no enforcement mechanism for the recommendations 
> - the ICANN Board is not obliged to implement the recommendations, 
> i.e. the reviews will have the soft force of persuasion and moral or 
> political pressure but not the instruments of 'hard' oversight. This 
> is reinforced in the Affirmation by the clear statement that 'ICANN is 
> a private organization and nothing in this Affirmation should be 
> construed as control by any one entity.' So  the Board  remains the 
> key body of power within ICANN  and the least accountable, as there is 
> no democratic mechanism for the bottom-up ICANN community to dismiss 
> the Board.
>
> Nevertheless this is a step forward, with respect to diluting 
> unilateral US oversight of ICANN. It remains to be seen to what extent 
> civil society is represented on any of the review teams and whether 
> the recommendations of the reviews are accepted and implemented by the 
> ICANN Board. The EU has come out in support of the continuation of the 
> IGF 'as it is the only place where all internet related topics can be 
> addressed by a wide range of stakeholders from all over the world, 
> including Parliamentarians.' It will be interesting to see what role 
> the IGF may be able to play as a space where the reviews can be 
> deliberated on in a multi-stakeholder fashion and boost the 
> transparency of the review process and perhaps its soft power.
>
> Willie
>
> Avri Doria wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Sep 2009, at 11:21, Bertrand de La Chapelle wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mc tim,
>>>
>>> I must have misunderstood. I thought Milton bought pizza if nothing 
>>> changed ?
>>>
>>> B.
>>
>>
>> And something did change.
>>
>> Though I am not sure how much there is for Civil society to be cheer 
>> about.
>> It is like the old days of WSIS, CS will be beholden to the gov't 
>> chair for right of participation.
>>
>> Or, in the long run, other then outward appearance, how significant 
>> the change will turn out to be for ICANN processes.
>>
>> a.
>>
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