[governance] Halal Search Engine

Wed Sep 9 18:11:00 EDT 2009

Deirdre and all,

  Right!  Everyone has the right and opertunity to stick their head
in the sand, as it were so they do not hear/read/or have knowledge
of some expressed, known, or factual information.  They do so at their
own risk, and sometimes as a result at the risk of others later accordingly.
Ergo it is unwise to intently not listen/read/or make onself self aware
as possible.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Deirdre Williams <williams.deirdre at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 6, 2009 8:44 AM
>To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>Subject: Re: [governance] Halal Search Engine
>
>Freedom of expression becomes anathema if coupled with compulsion to
>"listen". The greatest freedom of all is the freedom to be selective
>about what one "hears". It's such a great freedom that I don't think
>anyone bothers to write it down, and it's often forgotten in this type
>of discussion. Without it "freedom of expression" becomes enslavement
>of everyone else.
>So everyone may have the right of free expression (which presumably
>includes the right to categorise things as more or less "Halal", and
>indeed the right to create search engines of all kinds), just so long
>as everyone retains the right to withhold attention, and not to use
>the search engine if that is their choice.
>Deirdre
>
>2009/9/6 Tijani BEN JEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>:
>> Thank you Ian. You are 100% right. It was not a single case. The distortion
>> is general.
>>
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>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>> Envoyé : dimanche 6 septembre 2009 06:52
>> À : governance at lists.cpsr.org; Carlos A. Afonso
>> Objet : Re: [governance] Halal Search Engine
>>
>> Doesn't sound much different to me to the Mammon search engine (aka Google)
>> which includes in its search algorithms higher ratings for those who pay for
>> certain types of advertising services though the same company.
>>
>> But as we get beyond names for identifying sites to a greater reliance on
>> search results there is an issue here as regards truth in search results
>> reporting. As the search engine becomes our primary means of identifying
>> news or information on any given subject, to what degree should religious or
>> political beliefs or monetary considerations of search engine owners play a
>> part in the results reported?
>>
>> We are in danger of becoming like mainstream media here, where these
>> distortions are common. I guess we all hoped for something better....
>>
>>
>> On 6/09/09 9:33 AM, "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems some of us have suddenly discovered that intranets on the Net
>>> are anathema, for whatever reason. I am probably dumb, cannot quite
>>> grasp why this has popped up. It seems equivalent to prohibiting all
>>> closed doors meetings anywhere. What is going on?
>>>
>>> --c.a.
>>>
>>> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>>> By the way, Siva, your apparent rejection of a "rights-based" rationale
>> seems
>>>> incoherent to me.
>>>> On what basis are you challenging the right of a community to restrict
>> itself
>>>> if not on the basis of rights - of either individuals or groups?
>>>>
>>>> One of the reasons why I feel that the "rights-based approach" to
>> Internet
>>>> Governance is not a good idea...
>>>>
>>>> If "rights" are not a good idea, what is?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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