[governance] Milton is wrong, Segragation is wrong

Sat Sep 5 09:41:17 EDT 2009

This is terribly wrong.  The exceptions and caveats to this simple concept must be included every time it is said or written. Any time my State, Federal or ICANN or UN funds are involved this is in violation of law.
Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. 
Segragation into groups is fine as long as it does not violate this precept and righteous goal.
Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. 
Any man woman or child is fully entitled to bear hatred, bias and prejudice. They are not entitled as Milton suggests to act upon it.

NCUC, Syracuse and Delft are not "free" and are certainly not free to discriminate and cloister and exclude.
http://www.tudelft.nl/ Netherlands funded
http://ncdnhc.org/ ICANN funded and foundation funded
http://www.syr.edu/about/ Is US federally funded and New York State funded

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

From: Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
Subject: RE: [governance] Halal Search Engine
To: "'governance at lists.cpsr.org'" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>, "'Sivasubramanian Muthusamy'" <isolatedn at gmail.com>
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:18 PM

There are millions of "closed communities" on the Internet. The right to establish customised and special applications for your own idiosyncratic community is as inviolable as (indeed, part of) the right to freedom of association and freedom of expression. 

Milton Mueller
Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
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From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:08 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Meryem Marzouki
Subject: Re: [governance] Halal Search Engine

Hello,

It is not amusing. This could inspire other religious groups to start Kosher search engines, satvic search engines ?? Such divisions could create closed Internet communities. 

Usually, Internet communities are specialized groups that do not restrain or prohibit the members of the community from being a part of any other community; religious communities with a restrained attitude could emerge to be communities that restrain or influence (if not prohibit) its members from being a part of other communities.

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Meryem Marzouki <marzouki at ras.eu.org> wrote:

Very funny indeed. I'm eagerly waiting for the www.iamharam.com search engine (the domain name is still free BTW). 
But after all, simply a targetted form of blocking: isn't blocking all about "unethical" websites, whatever the "ethic" reference?
But what is *really* clever with this is the possibilities of really well targeted advertisement. 

Le 4 sept. 09 à 10:26, Shahzad Ahmad a écrit :

Dear Colleagues,

Do you know something about this "HALAL" Search Engine...  www.iamhalal.com

It seems that now cyberspace is heading towards religious divisions also... This search engine only wants to focus Muslim Internet Users. Couldn't figure out that who is behind it?

They claim to be blocking ALL "unethical" websites... I reckon a new interesting form of blocking..isn't it? I also feel that this search engine wants to develop their business "using" religion :)

It is very funny... they have somehow arranged 3 levels of searches being Haram... Don't know the logic behind it though as how they decided these levels. Level 3 is the serach at top most level... which they think is really really haram.

For example, put "Sex" in the search area, it is haram at level 3 (BTW how "sex" can be haram ;)). If you search "Penis", it is at Level 2 of being haram and "Breasts" are also at level 2 ;))) See for yourself, am not attaching the screen shots :)

Would really love to hear your thoughts on this... particularly, if someone know that how will it work...and who is behind it?

best wishes
Shahzad

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