[governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A New

[Milton L Mueller]

This is really great, Izumi. I spoke with someone from JPRS at the Seoul meeting and she hinted that Japan would take a more open and competitive approach to the IDN fast track. This is a model policy that I wish other countries would follow. Let us know how it works out.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi
> AIZU
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:44 AM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; David Goldstein
> Subject: Re: [governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A New
> Era
> 
> We are working to introduce a competitive bidding for the registry of
> new IDN ccTLD, dot-Nippoin. The uncumbent is allowed to bid for, but
> whole idea is to create choice and
> competition among, even ccTLDs. It's not an easy task, to make it
> open, fair, balanced.
> Hence we started Japan Internet Domain Name Council, with bit of
> multi-stakeholder
> framework, mainly composed of Internet industry associations (four of
> them together),
> with Consumer body, and the Government sits as "observer".
> 
> izumi
> 
> 
> 2009/11/1, David Goldstein <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au>:
> > Of course, those on this list wouldn't want to get the media hyping this
> > event in the way of what was actually claimed.
> >
> > From the ICANN news release:
> > "The coming introduction of non-Latin characters represents the biggest
> > technical change to the Internet since it was created four decades
> > ago," said ICANN chairman Peter Dengate Thrush.
> >
> > Giving people whose language is not Latin-based the ability to use
> domain
> > names is very significant. Eventually it will probably benefit every
> > language that includes a character in addition to A to Z, 0 to 9 and a
> dash.
> >
> > I guess many of those whose languages are Latin-based can't think
> outside
> > the square and appreciate this.
> >
> > Whether you like ICANN or not, there was a lot of work done to ensure
> IDNs
> > were safe and secure to use. But then, many on this list are loathe to
> admit
> > such a thing.
> >
> > Well, I guess bitterness prevails...
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Stephane Bortzmeyer
> > <bortzmeyer at internatif.org>
> > Sent: Sun, 1 November, 2009 10:57:22 AM
> > Subject: Re: [governance] Re: IDN's Internationalized Domain Names - A
> New
> > Era
> >
> > Fouad wrote
> >
> >>> a move that is being described as the biggest change to the way the
> >>> internet works since it was created 40 years ago.
> >
> > Very few people who have examined this subject think the Internet was
> > created 40 years ago. See
> > http://www.nethistory.info/History%20of%20the%20Internet/origins.html
> > for an article I wrote when the same group celebrated the "35th
> > anniversary".
> >
> > I think Stephane's comments are relevant. ICANN's tick on IDNs is
> welcome
> > and overdue, but not ground breaking.
> >
> > The real credit here does not lie with ICANN, but with people like Dr.
> John
> > Klensin, Dr. Konishi (Japan), Prof. Qian (China), Dr. Kenny Huang
> (Taiwan),
> > and Dr. Ko (Korea), James Seng (Singapore), TanTin Wee, many others. And
> as
> > Stephane states, the breakthrough was five years ago, not now.
> >
> > But spin doctors create popular history and myths propagate.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/09 12:11 AM, "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer at internatif.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:22:33PM +0900,
> >>  Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> wrote
> >>  a message of 109 lines which said:
> >>
> >>> The internet regulator ICANN has approved plans to allow
> >>> non-Latin-script web addresses,
> >>
> >> Unicode characters in domain names have been technically approved in
> >> 2003 (with the publication of RFC 3490) and installed first in a TLD a
> >> few months later (though I do not remember which TLD was the first
> >> one). ICANN, as often, is very late here. We see "non-Latin-script web
> >> addresses" for many years.
> >>
> >>> a move that is being described as the biggest change to the way the
> >>> internet works since it was created 40 years ago.
> >>
> >> This is simply ridiculous. More than the creation of the DNS? Or of
> >> BGP? Or than the deployment of TCP/IPv4, both non-existent 40 years
> >> ago?
> >>
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