[governance] The dawning of Internet censorship in Germany

[Daniel Oppermann]

Peter, I cannot say that I am a supporter of the CDU but I have to point out
that they are definitely not supporting the business of child abuse online
or offline. This seems to be a little too much of a conspiracy thinking. And
putting Hitler into this context is also far from reality. Sorry, but I have
to state this because this kind of mixing up things gives a totally wrong
picture of Germany for people living in other countries and probably trying
to understand the discussion about the Internet filter going on in Germany.

There is definitely a problem with the lack of democratic control of the
filter list and I also agree that we are having a problem with police
activities against parts of civil society or social movements (or however
they prefer to be called). And behind that there are often decisions made by
the CDU. But that does not make them a totalitarian party.


Best, Daniel






2009/6/17 Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>

> Aaron it looks great,
>
> because it keeps the business running.
> The things they "censor" earn a lot of money and are not allowed
> to get censored. So we build a fake filter for grandma and keep
> the business rolling.
>
> The real problem:
>
> The fake filter keeps grandma from seeing what she does not want
> to see and keeps her from calling the police.
>
> Internet researchers have shown it is easy to close those sites.
> An email or a phone call can do - but that would destroy business.
> After all the CDU is business oriented.
>
> We are very much afraid of what the CDU is doing right now.
> The CDU used to be the "Zentrum" or the center party and they
> helped install what Hitler later on used to censor.
>
> The "censoring" they are going to install can censor anything.
> They guy who is feeding the filter is not controlled by anybody
> and leaks found of other filters show that 90% of the things
> filtered is just filtered for fun.
>
> Closing your eyes does not help you avoiding a thunderstorm.
>
> There have been police raids with thousands of homes searched
> here in germany and nobody was found guilty. Servers from the
> pirates party have been taken and nothing has been found.
>
> Sites were down and people are still regarded as guilty by
> their neigbars. Looks very much like NAZI germany.
>
> Kind regards
> Peter (german pirates party)
>
> Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote:
> >
> > I just read this and found it interesting for the caucus group.
> >
> > Quite a great move by the German authorities aimed at securing
> > responsible youth hood.
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > ==============================
> > ==============================
> >
> >
> > "Germany is on the verge of censoring its Internet: The government - a
> grand
> > coalition between the German social democrats and conservative party -
> seems
> > united in its decision: On 18 June 2009, the German Parliament is to vote
> on
> > the erection of an internet censorship architecture.
> >
> > The Minister for Family Affairs Ursula von der Leyen kicked off and led
> the
> > discussions within the German Federal Government to block Internet sites
> in
> > order to fight child pornography. The general idea is to build a
> censorship
> > architecture enabling the government to block content containing child
> > pornography. The Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) is to
> > administer the lists of sites to be blocked and the internet providers
> > obliged to erect the secret censorship architecture for the government".
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
>
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