[governance] Monroe Doctrin for Cyberspace?

[Eric Dierker]

I am always amuzed at students of history placing modern day values and societal norms over their lens while gaining perspective of historical stuff. As though we can somehow empathetically understand the dynamics of a given place in time by applying our current anthropological bias. Then in order to come up with fuel for a given contention we apply liberally the damaging effects of a policy that was correct at the time of inception but through lack of action remained passed its' intended lifespan and caused unintended debilitary effects. 
 
 ICANN today can not be viewed through the visionary glasses of Jon Postel as it exists today. It must be viewed through the corrupt lens of current reality. Massive multinational conspiratorial Corporations now run the net, not DARPA style engineers with ten pound spectacles and slide rulers. We should not look to Countries to redefine the roles and responsibilities of netizens and carpetbaggers but rather to the driving forces of international monetary schemes.
 
I think using the same models of testing historic events we will look back on this "consensual" document that was just produced and judge it harshly, not due to its' genius but due to the lack of participatory validity.

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br> wrote:


From: Vanda Scartezini <vanda at uol.com.br>
Subject: RE: [governance] Monroe Doctrin for Cyberspace?
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "'Carlton Samuels'" <carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm>, "'"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"'" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:22 PM








Carlton
 I guess I could add many others examples to your comments. Lets not be naïve on this.  
 
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From: carlton.samuels at gmail.com [mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Carlton Samuels
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:39 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
Subject: Re: [governance] Monroe Doctrin for Cyberspace?
 
Um, see, history matters!  Those of us on the periphery of empire can attest to that. 

Seems I share some common reading material with Ms. Davidson.  And while we read the same books, her worldview leads her to count all other actors in the space as merely collateral damage.

The Monroe Doctrine is an unfortunate metaphor applied to either cybersecurity or Internet governance.  I shall take the most benign explanation and insist she is blithely unaware of the deleterious impact of the Monroe Doctrine on Latin America and the Caribbean. Honduras is just the latest gasp in a sorry history of an execrable policy that delivered "repeated injuries and usurpations greviously committed" and unilateral extraterritorial interventions resulting in stunted democratic institutions, mayhem and murder. Other stakeholders, the local people for one, were never recognized as having worthwhile much less sovereign interests. She clearly does not know the true history of the United Fruit Company in Central America and other implementing tools of this doctrine.   I won't even mention Haiti.   

Let us be clear. The views expressed by Madame Reding of the EC inre ICANN-related Internet governance issues are merely more, well.....shall we say nuanced...as befits a better understanding of the sweep of history and its impact on the future.

History is not bunk.  And culture is a helluva thing!

Carlton Samuels

2009/7/15 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Here is a good statement from Mary Ann Davidson, CSO from Oracle, where she proposes a "Monroe Doctrin" for Internet Governance. This is an extended version from a statement she made in a Congressional Hearing recently.

If somebody expected that we will soon the end of the IG debate, the contrary will be the case: The discussion has just started and the risk is, that all the new entrants in the discussion will probably not understand, what multistakeholderism is and why this has been an achievement for the diplomacy of the 1st decade of the 21st century. The 2nd decade could look rather different.

Wolfgang

http://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/
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