[governance] How do ICANN's actions hurt the average Internet

[Eric Dierker]

Roland,
 
Seems that your original premise makes good general sense.  But trying to make the case that the names and numbers and addresses people use for the purpose of accessing information is irrelevant is over the top.
But thanks for making a strong point.

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:


From: Roland Perry <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] How do ICANN's actions hurt the average Internet
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 8:34 PM


In message <4A58E901.5AC1E9DE at ix.netcom.com>, at 12:33:21 on Sat, 11 Jul 2009, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> writes

> Privacy protection is not about hiding, it is about protecting from
> abuse.

I don't call legitimate reasons to want to identify who I'm doing business with an "abuse".

> The ALAC is not about openess and transparency.  As such it in it's
> current form cannot reasonably represent users.

So you think the ALAC's actions are adversely affecting average users? Can you give some examples.

>> What kinds of harm do you think they are conspiring to inflict upon the
>> ordinary user - this is exactly the question I think George was asking
>> so I'm very interested in your answer.
> 
> There are not ordinary users per se.

Who are "they"?

> Again there are no "Average Internet users".

Of course there are. All those people sat at home on the end of cable modems, DSL and even dial-up.

> All users, registrants or non-registrants have a reasonable expectation that wherever some potential registrant buys their Domain Name, that that Registrar is operating in an honest and above board manner.  Such has proven too many times to not be the case.  Ergo, ALL users are damaged accordingly.

How does it damage the average user, if a registrant suffers a problem with their registry? (Apart from those time the registry accepts incorrect WHOIS information).

>> In a world of Web2.0, I can't see an easy way for people using Google's
>> platform to influence the tld that Google uses.
> 
> WEB2.0 is DOA at present, and unlikely to be revived despite the
> rhetoric to the contrary.

Forget the web2.0 aspects then, what about people using the web1.0 bits of Google?

> Why should there be a restriction of new TLD's?

But you seem to want better assurance that "Registrars [are] operating in an honest and above board manner.  Such has proven too many times to not be the case." Would that mysteriously fix itself if anyone could run a tld registry?

>> So when a Japanese site is only
>> available at a Japanese url, that prevents those of us without a
>> Japanese keyboard from accessing it. But as I don't speak Japanese, I'm
>> somewhat in their hands already if I want to access the site (ie they
>> have to provide an English version too).
> 
> They?  Who is they exactly?  Perhaps you mean the Japanese IDN
> domain holder?

Yes, that's "them".

> If so, why should they be required to provide a english version.

I didn't say they should. But if they want to appeal to an audience of non-Japanese speakers such as myself, it is necessary. Or they can ignore me. I don't care.

> No 3 cents is not huge.  $60m is.

Pretty small, really, for such a global enterprise.
-- Roland Perry
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