[governance] Aug. 15 deadline for inputs on IGF 2009 agenda
Anja Kovacs
anja at cis-india.org
Sat Aug 15 16:01:11 EDT 2009
Dear Charity,
Thank you very much for reaffirming your support to this issue.
However, I will need to send this to the IGF Secretariat within another
ten hours or so - do you think this is sufficient time for you to check
with your colleagues whether you want to extend institutional support,
or shall I only add your name at the moment (with or without your
organisational affiliation, as you prefer)? Do let me know how to
proceed.
Best wishes,
Anja
On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 14:53 -0500, Charity Gamboa wrote:
> Anja,
>
> ISOC Philippines Chapter previously sent a statement last May to the
> OC, through our Internet Governance Working Group that I chair, and
> read by Ginger, supporting Internet Rights and Principles as the theme
> for this year's IGF. So any concern on making Internet Rights and
> Principles in the IGF agenda, will have my support. I can also bring
> this up with a consensus again with my colleagues in ISOC PH and we
> may support it also as a group.
>
> Just for your FYI, here is the first paragraph of the statement we
> sent to the IGF Secretariat during the second OC:
>
> "The newly rejuvenated ISOC chapter of the Philippines would like to
> emphasize our interest for Internet Rights and Principles as a major
> theme for the IGF 2009. We address this theme with great support, as
> it is currently a vital and emerging topic for Internet Governance.
> This support is in line with ISOC Philippine’s upholding the spirit of
> core values that guide our policy work in our ability to connect, to
> speak, to innovate, to share, to choose , and to trust."
>
> Thank you for not giving up on this.
>
> Kindest regards.
> Charity G. Embley
> ISOC PH IGWG Chair
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Anja Kovacs <anja at cis-india.org>
> wrote:
> Dear Fouad,
>
> As I already pointed out in my initial message on this issue,
> I am under
> no illusion that this suggestion is going to be taken up by
> the IGF
> Secretariat. I am quite aware of what happened during the
> Open
> Consultations (I watched most of the webcast at the time and
> reread the
> whole transcript last week), and have some idea of what
> happened during
> the MAG, through both formal and informal feedback. I
> understand why
> Internet Rights and Principles are not on the agenda - in fact
> if
> Internet Rights and Principles would have become the theme of
> this IGF,
> I would have been thrilled but also quite surprised.
>
> But none of that is the point here. What is the point is that
> we, as
> civil society members, have been repeatedly asking for
> attention for
> this issue, and as long as this request is not heard, it is
> important to
> continue to do so at every formal and informal occasion
> provided. This
> seems one such occasion to me. Even if we understand why the
> Draft
> Programme is what it is, this is hardly a reason not to keep
> up our
> efforts at changing that agenda - if not with results right
> now, then
> hopefully in the future. The only agenda that will get harmed
> by not
> raising our voices at every opportunity is our own.
>
> Perhaps I should also add, in response to Carlton's message,
> here, that
> I know there are others (though not me) who share his
> concerns. One
> point of getting Internet Rights and Principles on the IGF
> agenda is
> precisely to get a space in a formal arena for different
> stakeholders to
> trash such issues out.
>
> Anja
>
>
> On Sat, 2009-08-15 at 13:38 +0500, Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> > Hi Anja and rest of the members,
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your concerns over the issue of
> Internet Rights
> > and I must share with you that the concerns regarding this
> issue were
> > well raised by the Civil Society stakeholders during the
> Open
> > Consultations in May 2009 in Geneva as well as during the
> MAG meetings
> > during the same period. I would recommend that you take an
> informed
> > approach rather than a vague one. The IGC presented this
> issue during
> > the Open Consultations and the transcript can be read at:
> >
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/component/content/article/71-transcripts-/410-transcript-of-the-13-may-open-consultations-
> >
> > It is true that the IGF Secretariat did not take into
> account the two
> > recommendations continuously requested throughout the three
> days by
> > the Civil Society that are Internet Rights and the Internet
> Governance
> > for Development IG4D Agenda. It was continuously requested
> to enable
> > and ensure that Internet Rights in the context of the
> Universal
> > Declaration of Human Rights as well as the Internet Rights
> Charter
> > (APC) be taken into account but that matter didn't see the
> light of
> > the day.
> >
> > The broader themes of the main sessions enable the discourse
> and
> > deliberate on various and/or multiple issues but not
> specifically
> > focus on a core set of issues and devise principles for
> mutual
> > assertion. You will also have to realize that the MAG lacks
> equal
> > Civil Society representation and there are more Governments,
> Private
> > Sector and Technical Community people to turn the tables on
> Internet
> > Rights and the Internet Governance for Development agenda
> setting
> > activities.
> >
> > I am afraid that your request despite the input and support
> from this
> > list will meet deaf years. I would suggest that you
> physically
> > participate in the IGF planning meeting, open to all
> stakeholders
> > being held in Geneva on 16-17 September 2009 taking place at
> the
> > European Broadcasting Union offices as well as the IGF
> itself in
> > Sharam this year and join the group of CS members that will
> be
> > intervening on this issue with more strength.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards.
> > --------------------------
> > Fouad Bajwa
> > @skBajwa
> > Answering all your technology questions
> > http://www.askbajwa.com
> > http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATVDW1tDZzA
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Anja
> Kovacs<anja at cis-india.org> wrote:
> > > Thank you to all those who responded to my question.
> > >
> > > As time is indeed short, I would like to take up Ginger's
> suggestion, and
> > > have drafted a brief statement, which you can find below.
> If you and/or
> > > your organisation would like to sign this, please let me
> know by the end of
> > > today, 15 August (whatever your time zone), and I will
> make sure it reaches
> > > the IGF Secretariat.
> > >
> > > Below the proposed statement, I have also pasted the
> statement that the IGC
> > > submitted in April. A few other submissions, made around
> that time by
> > > various groups and individuals can be found here:
> > >
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/discussionspace?func=view&catid=5&id=14
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Anja
> > >
> > > Suggested statement:
> > >
> > > The undersigned would like to express their surprise and
> disappointment that
> > > Internet Rights and Principles was not retained as an item
> on the agenda of
> > > the 2009 IGF in any way. Although this topic was suggested
> as a theme for
> > > this year's IGF or for a main session by a range of actors
> during and in the
> > > run-up to May's Open Consultations, this widespread
> support is not reflected
> > > in the Draft Programme Paper, which does not include
> Internet Rights and
> > > Principles even as a sub-topic of any of the main
> sessions. The WSIS
> > > Declaration of Principles, 2003, and the Tunis Agenda,
> 2005, explicitly
> > > reaffirmed the centrality of the Universal Declaration of
> Human Rights to an
> > > inclusive information society. To make these commitments
> meaningful, it is
> > > of great importance that a beginning is made to explicitly
> building
> > > understanding and consensus around the meaning of Internet
> Rights and
> > > Principles at the earliest. We recommend that the Agenda
> of the 2009 IGF
> > > provide the space to do so.
> > >
> > > IGC Submission - April 2009:
> > >
> > > The following statement is submitted on behalf of the
> Civil Society Internet
> > > Governance Caucus.
> > >
> > > The Internet Governance Caucus continues to support
> "Internet Rights and
> > > Principles" as a major theme for IGF-4 in Egypt. This
> should lead to
> > > discourse at the IGF meetings moving towards the
> definition and
> > > clarification of rights in relation to the Internet, and
> how they relate to
> > > pre-existing definitions of human rights. It also includes
> a space for
> > > discussions about the responsibilities of all parties.
> > >
> > > The concept of "rights" continues to stress the importance
> of openness and
> > > universal access. This framework will continue to
> emphasize the importance
> > > of access to knowledge and development in Internet
> governance, while adding
> > > to it the basic right of individuals to access the content
> and applications
> > > of their choice. This is in keeping with current debates
> regarding an “open
> > > Internet”, and relevant aspects of the often confusing
> network neutrality
> > > discussions.
> > >
> > > The inclusion of "principles" allows for wide discussion
> of the
> > > responsibilities that the different stakeholders have to
> each other. It
> > > allows for open examination of the principles that should
> govern the
> > > Internet, particularly in its commercial facets.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 19:15 -0430, Ginger Paque wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Anja,
> > > I agree with your concern. However, I do not think there
> is time for the
> > > list to reach consensus on a substantive statement.
> > >
> > > If you write a statement, could you post it to the list,
> so that those who
> > > want to sign with you can email you directly, so you can
> add names before
> > > you send it in?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Ginger
> > >
> > > Anja Kovacs wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > As Ginger noted, tomorrow is the last day for comments on
> the Draft
> > > Programme Paper. What continues to strike me as I read
> this paper is the
> > > complete absence of attention for Internet rights and
> principles - in
> > > fact the word 'rights' is not mentioned even once -
> despite Internet
> > > rights and principles being raised as a theme or a topic
> for a main
> > > session repeatedly by a range of players (including the
> IGC, the IRP DC
> > > and the Gender DC) during and in the run-up to May's Open
> Consultations.
> > > Although I realise that there is little chance of it being
> included as a
> > > main session at this point, I think it is important for us
> to at least
> > > comment on this glaring absence. Would it be possible for
> the IGC to
> > > express, by tomorrow, its disappointment in this regard?
> (we could use
> > > some of the wording of the April submission)
> > >
> > > For those of you with whom I have had the pleasure to
> interact before, I
> > > also would like to share that I have now joined the Centre
> for Internet
> > > and Society, Bangalore.
> > >
> > > I look forward to continuing to engage with you all on
> Internet
> > > Governance issues.
> > >
> > > Anja
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Anja Kovacs
> > > Fellow
> > > Centre for Internet and Society
> > > T: +91 80 4092 6283
> > > www.cis-india.org
> > >
> > >
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