[governance] Unsubscribing and controlling the trolls

[Eric Dierker]

Jeff,
 
Please note and retain copy of Miltons post of filtering all that he does not like to hear.  Next he testifies - fortifying the status quo and maintaining his niche -- it would be good for the listeners to know his understanding is limited to what he wants to hear.
 
I imagine in his classes you get an F if you do not agree and simply recite back to him his great ideas.  Very classic educational western model.  Very much why private educational institutions that team with business and civic organizations are doing so well.  
 
Miltons style of what governance should be would be cool combined with Lockes Utopia and the ever sought never found benevolent dictator.  It fits right in with bookburning, religious zealots (perhaps Iran - perhaps not), strict Czars and totalitarian communism.
 
I wonder if when he travels he concocts filters like five star hotels, and chauffeurs to make sure the cries of the downcast, forgotten and sick cannot reach his ears.  Heaven forbid he be detoured from his lofty purpose by concepts like empathy and self organization and user rights.  My goodness I wonder what he does when he gets ill. Certainly not a public place type hospital where he would share space and physician with some horrible low class person like you.
 
I feel bad for chastizing posts last week who threw the rich and elitists into bad light.  My apologies to Avri.  Perhaps I should rethink that the privileged should be held to a higher standard, which Miltons falls far below.
 
And please all here remember when next attending a "governance" meeting -- to leave Ghandi at home, to forget that illiterate Lincoln and to never, never, never hold your wine glass with a full hand and try to keep the pinky straight.
 
But wait -- I should be considered a Troll for criticizing such a man -- censored for calling elitism eltism although he may hurl the greatest insults in the world at us lower classed imbeciles.
 
Eric Dierker, Doctorate of Jurisprudence, Bachelor of Philosphy,  of Security

--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:


From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [governance] Unsubscribing and controlling the trolls
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Eric Dierker" <cogitoergosum at sbcglobal.net>, "Ginger Paque" <ginger at paque.net>
Cc: "Yehuda Katz" <yehudakatz at mailinator.com>, "Charity Gamboa" <charityg at diplomacy.edu>, "Ian Peter" <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>, "Fouad Bajwa" <fouadbajwa at gmail.com>, "Parminder" <parminder at itforchange.net>, "William Drake" <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>, "Lee W McKnight" <lmcknigh at syr.edu>, "Roland Perry" <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>, "Roxana Goldstein" <goldstein.roxana at gmail.com>, "Wolfgang" <wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 5:53 AM


Eric and all,

  I fully concur with your sentiments.  Seems to me that the governed
should be able to freely, openly and transparently participate in IT
governance issues.  I believe this is also in line with UN resolution
as well.

Eric Dierker wrote:

>
> Ginger and Yehuda, I have not heard any of your ideas of governance.
  Yes it is true I have heard your ideas on building a Cracy that you
  are trying to fund.  Yes it is true that everyone does not have the
  same idea of governance, but who the hell are you thinking you can
  govern when you hear what you do not like and then run away?

  --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Yehuda Katz <yehudakatz at mailinator.com> wrote:


       From: Yehuda Katz <yehudakatz at mailinator.com>
       Subject: Re: [governance] Unsubscribing and controlling the
       trolls
       To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
       Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 9:40 PM

       Ginger,

       I Motion that the "List" here move to a new local,
       designated specifically to
       the IGC

       Re:

       {Current List)
       governance at lists.cpsr.org
       For Discussions on Internet Governance

       To:
       igc at lists.cpsr.org
       For Discussions of the IGC [Internet Governance Caucus]

       Or just move the list to the IGC site:
       http://www.igcaucus.org/
       (mail list i.e: igc at igcaucus.org)

       ---

       I personally enjoy the cross-fire of interests on the
       current list, as it is,
       and hope it remains an open list. It spurs serendipity and
       spontaneity of the
       mind.

       However I see your point, maybe now is a good time to
       augment the list's
       purpose, and move too a more concise mail list address for
       IGC conversation.

       Does anyone second the motion?
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