[governance] ITU & ICANN in Cairo
Jeffrey A. Williams
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Fri Nov 14 19:39:23 EST 2008
Siva and all,
Users, which we all are BTW, shall involve themselves in an open
and transparent manner or not be associated with an effort that is
not such, and rightly so. I don't believe that Users need to be
directed as to how or where, or even what to get involved with
or in.
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> Hello Michael Gurstein,
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Michael
> Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think the real reason that the IGF is still vulnerable to
> attacks such as those from the ITU rests with civil society
> and the overall way in which civil society has consented and
> collaborated wiith the IGF in the current framing and
> presenting of the issues.
>
>
> From my observation of the process of preparing workshop proposals and
> the process of arriving at a final version of the proposal, I notice
> that the Civil Society at the IGF follows a sort of quasi-diplomatic
> style. Diplomatic process on a global level in the modern context is
> an art of compromise. The IGF process has so far followed this style
> of conducting its business and frankly, we as participants haven't
> been as good as the traditional players of this game.
>
> Rather than attempt to engage the larger universe of the
> grassroots with a stake in the opportunities that ICTs
> present (as well as the risks), the IGF following WSIS has
> overall failed to either define the issues with which it is
> concerned in terms amenable to grassroots involvement or
> otherwise has effectively ignored the issues which would
> engage grassroots users and particularly organizations
> working with and for the grassroot ICTs.
>
>
> Rather than feel hurt, I would rather look at this as "self-criticism"
> from within. We need to take a serious look at how the users are to be
> involved. Even on the business quadrant, business seems to be more
> represented by the Service Providers rather than the "business-user"
> groups - for example we don't see large BPOs or Airlines who are
> Business Corporations as consumers of bandwidth. They ought to be part
> of the business stakeholder groups ?
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>
>
> The absence of a linkage between WSIS and now the
> IGF and a grassroots "movement" for effective ICT
> use and self-empowerment is the direct cause of
> the absence of dynamism which we now observe
> in the post-WSIS initiatives and which many are
> seeing as now befalling the IGF.
>
> MG-----Original Message-----
> From: gov-bounces at wsis-gov.org
> [mailto:gov-bounces at wsis-gov.org] On Behalf Of JFC
> Morfin
> Sent: November-09-08 5:36 PM
> To: 'WSIS CS WG on Information Networks
> Governance'; governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Dr.
> Francis MUGUET'
> Subject: [Gov 589] Re: ITU and ICANN - a loveless
> forced marriage Re: [governance] ITU & ICANN in
> Cairo
>
> At 19:01 09/11/2008, JFC Morfin wrote:
>
> > It is a fact that the IGF may be in real
> > trouble, and in the danger of being sidelined as
> > an annual conference that no one of any real
> > importance takes any note of. We must review
> > what would it mean in terms of civil society and
> > progressive interests. In light of such a review
> > we may need to have clearer common positions of
> > how we want to engage with the IGF, and how we
> > want to see it evolve. Such a review is an even
> > more urgent imperative in view of the
> > forthcoming process of IGF review which will
> > start in earnest immediately after the IGF,
> > Hyderabad. What gets said and discussed at
> > Hyderabad may have some important implications
> > for this review.
>
> I agree with this. The reason why is that the
> secretariat did not understand the role of the IGF
> in two key areas :
>
> 1. IGF _is_ a decision making meeting. But in the
> new fashion. Not for a single document to be voted
> by Govs. But for attendees to concert and make
> their own minds, as the owners of their own part
> of the Internet and of their own global
> connections and usage.
>
> 2. Secretariat has not attempted to catalyse the
> necessary work concerning enhanced cooperations. I
> do not know if we still have some hope for
> Hyderabad, but we can start working for Cairo and
> establish our own enhanced cooperations, and make
> them effective. One framework for such an effort
> is simple enough to start with: to practically
> concert about actions for a People Internet by the
> people for the people, in order to support a
> people centered information society.
>
> The basic idea is that dynamic coalitions are to
> influence the Internet governance and enhanced
> cooperations are to enact it through cooperations
> among interested parties. A typical enhanced
> cooperation could be geo-cultural TLDs, to help
> protect and revive languages in the Internet age.
> Open cooperations at the CS initiative could
> include concerned political authorities, cultural
> entiies, businesses, and registrants. An "enhanced
> cooperation" of such "enhanced cooperations" could
> play an equivalent role to ICANN, GSMA, China,
> TLDA, etc. in running a part of the Internet
> virtual root and keep such TLD out of the ICANN
> greed.
>
> jfc
>
>
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