[governance] NOMCOM - MAG nominations

[Michael Gurstein]

It seems to me that there is some form of contradiction between two
statements that Adam makes below...

"Being able to commit the time important, about a 
month/year for travel (MAG meetings are 3 days, IGF 4 days, unless 
the person's based in Europe, travel to Geneva takes a while.) 
Participating remotely in MAG meetings is possible, CS members have 
done so."

Based on some notional figures:
	30 days travel @ $200/day = $6000
	travel costs say 4 trips @ $2000/trip = $8000
				Total (not counting work time) = $14,000 +/-

So, who apart from those who are "professionally" involved in the issues
under discussion i.e. have some sort of institutional sponsorship (or have
private trust funds) will be able to devote a month and $14,000 out of
pocket to this effort without: "exploit(ing) membership for their own or
their organization's gain" unless CS is populated by a large number of
privately wealthy saints.

I have no objection to the MAG consisting of all
"professionals"--government, corporate and CS (we'll see who the reps who
are funded from LDC's might be) but I think we should be clear about this
and recognize that "grassroots" folks and here I'm including those from less
than fully endowed CS organizations including from Developed Countries are
more or less automatically being excluded here.

In the Internet Governance area, at least as such is being defined by this
CS group, I don't think it matters very much as not many ICT4D users
(whether in LDCs or in Developed Countries) will have a lot of interest in
the issues under discussion; however, I think we as "representing" CS in
this space should be at least noting the contradiction above and ensuring
that what passes for representivity in the IGF space should not become an
overall precedent for other spaces where other and more user oriented
"Internet Governance" and ICT4D issues are discussed.

MG

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp] 
Sent: March 23, 2008 8:32 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: Re: [governance] NOMCOM - MAG nominations

...

Looks like members from developing countries will be supported 
financially. Being able to commit the time important, about a 
month/year for travel (MAG meetings are 3 days, IGF 4 days, unless 
the person's based in Europe, travel to Geneva takes a while.) 
Participating remotely in MAG meetings is possible, CS members have 
done so.

...

MAG members are always going to be volunteers, there's only so much 
time that a person can devote.  Looking back at WSIS very few of CS 
caucus and working group coordinators, WGIG members, came did much 
more that MAG members have been doing, i.e. don't make unrealistic 
demands. MAG members shouldn't be looking to join the group to 
exploit membership for their own or their organization's gain, they 
should put CS interests ahead their own or their organization's.

Thanks,

Adam



>I figure we still need at least around 4-5 more volunteers. But I think
>members are opting in, and we will reach the needed number.
>
>Parminder
>
>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:marzouki at ras.eu.org]
>>  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:32 PM
>>  To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>  Subject: Re: [governance] NOMCOM - MAG nominations
>>
>>  Hi Parminder,
>>
>>  Please take note that it's Easter week, major holiday in many
>> countries, including Monday as day off. Is it possible to consider an  
>> extended deadline, e.g. Wednesday, rather than Monday? It's important  
>> that this process of nominating MAG members doesn't lead to any  
>> dispute, at least regarding procedural matters.
>>
>  > Meryem
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