[governance] IGC nominees for MAG

Tue Mar 18 02:52:34 EDT 2008

> I think with avri volunteering to pull this together we should be able
> to
> act decisively and manage to come up with representative nominations

We have 11 till now (ie if Vittorio accepts my request to opt out)

Milton Mueller

Jeremy Malcolm

Suresh Ramasubramanian 

Jeremy Shtern

Brett Fausett

Robert Guerra 

Carlos Afonso

Schombe Baudouin

Ian Peter

Lee McKnight

Maja Anjelkovic

14 more needed. Pl give your names (there is 4 in 5 chance you will anyway
not make it :)) On the other hand, if we don't get 14 more name the process
may be jeopardized. 

Thanks

Parminder 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee McKnight [mailto:lmcknigh at syr.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:54 AM
> To: ian.peter at ianpeter.com; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: RE: [governance] IGC nominees for MAG
> 
> ok, since we need more names and I've been nudging in this direction,
> I'll jump in the nomcom pool (and hope to be booted out). what are we up
> to by now? who's keeping track? 1/3rd of way there?
> 
> Lee
> 
> Prof. Lee W. McKnight
> School of Information Studies
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> >>> ian.peter at ianpeter.com 03/17/08 5:13 PM >>>
> Count me in for a nomcom pool as well
> 
> I think with avri volunteering to pull this together we should be able
> to
> act decisively and manage to come up with representative nominations
> 
> 
> 
> Ian Peter
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carlos Afonso [mailto:ca at rits.org.br]
> > Sent: 18 March 2008 07:36
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Subject: Re: [governance] IGC nominees for MAG
> >
> > We need to untangle this. If there is to be a nomcom, it has to adhere
> > to certain rules (not nominating themselves, not taking the initiative
> > to capture nominees a la ICANN; it should just facilitate the process
> > and try to consolidate a list of names generated by the IGC and the
> > different other regional cauci as well as other CS constituencies
> which
> > are involved in the IG debate).
> >
> > Otherwise this might lead to an endless imbroglio (Vittorio knows the
> > meaning of the word...) and we better stick to Vittorio's suggestion.
> >
> > Probably the nomcom thing might become so troublesome that we might
> > overshoot all deadlines and end up nominating no one, or do so with a
> > lot of disagreements. Let us be careful (but we also need to act
> > quickly...).
> >
> > frt rgds
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> > Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> > > Milton L Mueller ha scritto:
> > >> You can tell from the above that I do not agree with Adam's
> position
> > >> below:
> > >>
> > >> Adam Peake:
> > >>> The five members of the MAG the caucus nomcom recommended in 2006
> be
> > >>> included on any list of candidates with a note to say the caucus
> > >>> would support their continued membership of the MAG should the SG
> > >>> find they continue to enhance the balance of the group. The five
> > >>> (unless anyone drops out) are included in any candidate list.
> > >>
> > >> Indeed, I find it difficult to think of any justification for this
> > rule.
> > >> As I said, this list is nothing more than advice on who to throw
> out
> > and
> > >> who could be added. So creating a rule that forces us to support
> all
> > >> current members eliminates half of our our ability to give advice.
> It
> > >> also completely eviscerates any pressure we are able to place on
> > >> existing MAG members who allegedly represent us. This is absurd.
> > >
> > > Actually, I think that this "double track" would end up this way:
> you
> > > have a big and interesting discussion from the bottom about who
> could do
> > > this job well, then you put a lot of effort in coming to consensus
> on a
> > > couple of names, but then you discover that these two names are just
> to
> > > be added on a slate of five others that were already preselected
> from
> > > the top, and did not have to go through any kind of public scrutiny.
> > >
> > > Where did I already see this model? I think it was in ICANN's At
> Large
> > > elections in 2000, and at that time I'm quite sure that some of the
> > > people who now advocate this idea were challenging it on the basis
> of
> > > its top-down nature :)
> > >
> > > My feeling is that many, possibly most, of the current MAG members
> > > should and will be confirmed anyway, whatever process we pick. So
> why
> > > pick one that will leave to any loser the sense of not having been
> > > playing on a level field? How helpful can that be to the future
> > > credibility of the MAG and of the IGF in general?
> > >
> > > Anyway, I volunteer for the Nomcom.
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> >
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