[governance] RE: IPv[4,6, 4/6] was IGF delhi format

[Parminder]

Stephane 


>  Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote
>  a message of 316 lines which said:
> 
> > BTW the view you say you have on the problems of ip6 transition that
> > " The "problem" is not huge, it'll be worked out in short order (5
> > to 10 years)" is not shared by many others who are quite
> > knowledgeable.


To clarify. It is McTim who said the ""problem" is not huge, it'll be worked
out in short order (5 > > to 10 years)". In fact, I said in reply that this
view is not shared by many.

Parminder.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzmeyer at internatif.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: Parminder
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: IPv[4,6, 4/6] was IGF delhi format
> 
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:57:26PM +0530,
>  Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote
>  a message of 316 lines which said:
> 
> > BTW the view you say you have on the problems of ip6 transition that
> > " The "problem" is not huge, it'll be worked out in short order (5
> > to 10 years)" is not shared by many others who are quite
> > knowledgeable.
> 
> Indeed. It is pure propaganda and such marketing-talk was already very
> costly for IPv6 (many professionnals now see IPv6 with great suspicion
> since it has been vastly oversold).
> 
> Instead of just stating the truth (we are running out of IPv4
> addresses, hacks like the NAT are very costly both for the application
> developers, who must implement workarounds like STUN and TURN, and for
> the users, who are now relegated to a "client-only" role), some IPv6
> proponents have tried to sell IPv6 by pretending that some things
> (like IPsec) were only possible with IPv6. Unfortunately for the
> Internet, it backfired and now many IT managers throw the IPv6 baby
> with the marketing bath water :-(
> 
> For those who are interested in what makes a protocol a success or
> not, the IAB is currently working on a future RFC named "What Makes
> For a Successful Protocol?" (available at
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-protocol-success>). A good start
> on this difficult question with several case studies (although the
> most painful for the IETF such as IPv4 vs. IPv6 or Diameter vs. Radius
> or SNMPv1 vs. SNMPv3 are not discussed).



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